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Subject: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Max Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:20 PM The Forum SuperSearch is now up to date as of 7pm EST today, 11/11/2008. I haven't figured out how to get it to update regularly by itself yet, but it's a start. Also, please don't forget to do your holiday shopping through http://amazon.mudcat.org. All the same products at all the same prices but the mudcat gets a cut. Every year, our revenue from this source in Dec & Jan is a significant sum for our yearly budget. Thanks a million. I am self employed again, so that means I can spend more time working on the mudcat(in theory). In addition to making improvements to the site, adding features and solving problems, I will also be doing a few things that I hope will generate some more revenue. Please bear with me and don't hesitate to complain about anything that doesn't feel right to you. If I get feedback that any of my efforts go too far or changes the good nature of the site, I will remove them immediately. I've also had the pleasure to be staying home with my kids and new beagle puppy Merle for the last several months. I've never worked so hard in all my life. Lily is now almost 6, Bodhi just turned 2 and Merle is about 6 months. The experience has got me to a point that makes me unwilling to do anything less that what I aspire to be. The last 7 years has been a treadmill, a lot of sweating and I'm right where I started from. No more. The reason I tell you all this is that the mudcat, all it contains, all of the people I have met and all things I've learned turns out to be one of the most important things I've done and have. I've always wanted to do more. I've always wanted it to be my full time job. How do you make a small fortune in Folk Music? Start with a large one. I'm under no illusion, but it has become clear to me that the things I want to spend my time on need to help pay the bills. Or rather, I end up spending my time on the things that pay my bills. Either way, I think you can see my point. All that being said, I intend to stand by all of my previous beliefs and not sell crap or charge you anything for anything you've ever gotten for free or plaster the site in ads. We get a lot of traffic, a lot of members and we have a lot of good content. The net has come a long way since we started, and there are many wonderful tricks and trades that a site like ours can take advantage of. Just like http://amazon.mudcat.org, the mudcat can find a way to take a cut of products and services at their normal prices, I just need to facilitate the process. I have a million ideas. katlaughing had the idea to sell a CD of your own personal backup of your interaction with the mudcat. All the messages you've ever posted, every thread you've ever posted to, every personal message you've ever sent or received and a copy of the DT. Any interest? We also happen to have some very talented members. By my count, 22,000 talented people. 22,000 that want their music heard and want to hear music. We have produced several CDs and I hope to produce several per year moving forward. You get my drift. Time to kick it up a notch, on every level. You tell me what you want, and I'll provide it. And you have my guarantee that every money making endeavor will be preceded by an improvement to the mudcat, and I'll demand that you hold me to that. Max |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: katlaughing Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:29 PM YeeHaw!!!! Well done, Max! |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:30 PM Such good timing, Max! We're treading a bit of water here, but still, I've been sorting through a few things to list in the Mudcat auction in time for the holiday season. I'm glad to be of assistance a little bit (and redistribution is a great way to support the 'cat). Self-employed these days is quite a somber euphemism. I hope things go well and that an employer helps kick into the family coffers soon. The Mudcat is great, it's running better than ever, and those of us who have been around for a while have maybe not stepped up as often as we could to say so. But what would we do without it? For many of us, it is our social networking, forget about Facebook or My Space. Thanks for all that you do! SRS |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: GUEST,e Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:33 PM Max - it is time flush. Remember - there are several floaters in every turd-bowl...sometimes you need to flush twice to kill the krawling kritters. GIVE the USA a MUSICAL THREAD - that is MUSIC and not UK club gigs and UK poofters. It is time for a THIRD LEVEL (beyound the above and below line WHICH IS a VERY WELCOME divisiion) something that is AMERICAN (continent) MUSIC FOLK/BLUE/JAZZ Your clones NEED a little more guidelines than flushing out threads from their most hated GUESTS....because their personal, individual feelings were "hurt." WHY do 3 hours of research and have the contribution refused? Sincerely, G. Do not dare to post nomulter' - Tuesday and Thursday things tend to get through. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:34 PM CRAP!!!
Pussy Whipped Again!!!
Sincerely, |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Max Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:37 PM Woodpussy whipped. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Beer Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:38 PM Well Max it is good to hear from you. I have been here about 5 years more or less and have made friends all over the world. Have met about 30 in person and some have become very good friends. So thank you. My only thought at the moment for improvement is in the section of "Member Photo and Info". I already went through a session with Joe and my intention is not to have this happen again. But if this sector is not available to all members than don't you think it should be taken out and redirected to the site where folks can go to? There are some members who just maybe would like to keep all things on Mudcat on Mudcat and not spread out on other sites. Just a thought. I will now wait for the shit to hit the fan. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:44 PM Gargoyle, if you spend three hours researching something musical and it gets deleted, contact me by e-mail and we'll work something out. But hey, I've seen dozens of your deleted messages, and haven't seen music or three hours of research in any of the deleted ones. -Joe Offer- joe@mudcat.org |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Max Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:45 PM Beer, great, great idea. I see a yes/no question in the membership profile/info that determines if a user's link leads to either an existing site or their mudcat profile. I will begin work on that right off. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:50 PM Geeziz Greg....Always nice to see you so early in a thread! Max---Whatever helps my friend. I'm around to do whatever I can for this joint and if its a good idea for you and I can help, I'm available. Maybe I could pass the hat while I kick you in the balls......I dunno'. Catholic churches used to raffle off cars until the Buick dealers got pissed and raffled off a 1947 Catholic church. Maybe we could raffle off Joe or Garg or both. You missed great a opporunity to win big when we didn't bet on this year's PSU/OSU game! Seriously though..........Let's raffle off Joe. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:50 PM OK - Max -we understand who is on the throne tonight.
A previous posting has been removed
ADD a THIRD LEVEL -
Do you want to incorporate - or stay private? Go public or remain independant?
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: WyoWoman Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:53 PM Hey there -- I don't know what your ideas for generating revenue are, but I say, power to you. A person has to make a living and I don't think you signed on to be a Mudcat Missionary forever, so ... do what you need to do to have a profession doing what you love. We'll come along -- and them what doesn't, well ... WyoWoman |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Max Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:58 PM Message Undeleted. Attention Vols. Only I will delete messages in this thread, and from now on, every thread I participate in. If you see me post, hands off. Get this right. I don't need money. I want all contributions stopped. That's the point. I shouldn't need handouts. All I need to do is get off my butt and apply the things people hire me to do for them, and do it for me... on this site. I was stupid and asleep, now I'm awake, and am pursuing an idea that I currently think is slightly less stupid. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Beer Date: 11 Nov 08 - 10:58 PM Another Point. I am willing to keep an eye on up coming birthdays and start a thread on the member. What happens now is if you don't go to that section then a member who has entered his/her birth date is not mentioned in any thread. I find this to be very sad. All members who have entered their birth date would like to be wished a "Happy Birthday". I may not be here to keep tabs all the time, but I would get a member to help when I'm away. Adrien Adrien |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Nov 08 - 11:00 PM Hmmmm.....Raffling off Joe is sounding better all the time............. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Amos Date: 11 Nov 08 - 11:06 PM Spaw: If you're going to raffle off Joe it will be a lot easier if you throw in a 1947 Catholic Church AND a Buick. A |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Mary Katherine Date: 11 Nov 08 - 11:24 PM Could somebody explain to me how the auction process works? If I have something I want to auction off, and give part of the proceeds to the Mudcat, exactly what are the steps to take? PM is fine if this isn't of general interest. Thanks! |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Big Mick Date: 11 Nov 08 - 11:25 PM You know I am with you on this, buddy. Let me know what you need from me. Want me to handle auctioning off my podnuh, Mr. Offer? I am not sure that is a good idea, but mebbe if we throw in Spaw, it might generate some revenue? That, of course, would leave the lead couch at Lane, Fielding, Patterson and Swan, layabouts at large and for hire, open. I am feeling the need to layabout a bit more....... But seriously, you sure picked a helluva time to do this. Economy in the toilet, retail going to hell..... LOL. What the hell, I'm all in with you. All the best, and waiting for instruction, Mick P.S. You didn't tell me you had a 6 month old beagle pup at your joint. Peter T and I would have made a detour to see the kids and the noble pup. These critters are quite simply the finest buddies that kids will ever have. I love it when they sit there with their head cocked, ears slightly perked, and tail wagging slowly. Since I am skilled in Beagle-ese I will translate. It means, "I am going to turn this place into a car wash and there ain't a thing you can do to stop my adorable little fuzzy ass". I love these dogs. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: GUEST,Steve in Idaho Date: 11 Nov 08 - 11:26 PM Hi Max - good to "See" you - been 3-4 years - Enjoy your children. They go away way too soon. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Nov 08 - 11:31 PM Hi, Mary Katherine - Putting something in the auction is almost as easy as starting a thread. Just go to the Auction page and select "Add Item to Auction." If you need help, I'm around. katlaughing is also very experienced in auction matters. Oh, and I guess I ought to say that I have very nice teeth because of a lot of orthodontic work, bedroom blue eyes, and a stunning personality. My defects are a slight paunch, a large bald spot on the top of my head, and a tendency to be clueless (well, I call it "innocence"). -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: M.Ted Date: 11 Nov 08 - 11:31 PM Now that so much music is up on UTube (and other places) it would be great to have a sidebar where folks could post links involving Mudcatters, artists and songs that are being discussed, or whatever is interesting. Also, I've always thought that a multinational calendar, with schedules for folk clubs, performers, open mikes, jams, tours for artists, etc was much needed. It also occurs to me that there ought to be a Mudwiki, or some such thing, with entries that are distilled from the many, many, amazing discussions that we've had. And then, of course, with the advent of the trusty Edirol R-9, and the Zoom and such devices, it would be possible to have a sound archive of the various sessions that our Mudcat brood frequent. It would be a hoot and a half to be able to sit at home the morning after and play along with a sound file of a session. For years, most of the online contact that we've had with one another has been in discussions of one kind or another--after a while, you kind of forget that a lot of people are crackerjack musicians--now, the technology is here that allows us to share the music--and about time, since after about ten years of online chatting, I've repeated myself a lot;-) |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Nov 08 - 11:53 PM Max, Mudcat is a marvel and a model that some other sites could follow and benefit from. I seem to recall a discussion in years past of your being asked to use your skills to help others develop their site software. If you do that for income while letting Mudcat help fund itself it wouldn't be a bad thing. You have done so much--there are few who would protest that you need to "get off your butt" for anything. Those of us who have bonded with Mudcat do mightily appreciate the technological advances as they come along, but we loved it before, also. It has run so smoothly lately that it is too easy to forget that this is an operation running out of your dining room, or den, or wherever you have the server set up now. Contributing to place that is loved and admired is a good thing for members. Like PBS and NPR, if we have an interest in keeping it going, we should contribute. It's only fair. I have another Ellis Island Immigrant Cookbook I have been saving to sell now, since it is such a good holiday gift. Just ask those who have already bought them through the auction. I'll probably list that tomorrow or the next day, to spread these auctions out a little. I still think you should incorporate, but we've discussed that before also. Good luck, and keep doing what you love to do--that is the best thing, no matter what else happens. SRS |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Big Mick Date: 12 Nov 08 - 12:02 AM Great sentiments, folks, but I think we all need to reread Max's post. While I share them, Max is taking a more direct role and is going to run the place more on a business model. I would expect that he will maintain the essential character, and day to day you will see little change. I would guess he will play a stronger "behind the scenes" role, and will utilize the strategies available to a site that is getting the number of hits we get in a day. So, sit back, enjoy the ride, and let's follow his lead. He is telling you that you don't have to fret and send off donations. Just be sure that when you are online shopping, especially during this season, you always come through the mudcat. Drop me a line if you don't know how and I will give you a hand. Mick the Muderator |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: katlaughing Date: 12 Nov 08 - 12:26 AM Mary Katherine, HERE is a guide I wrote up for the auction. If you have any questions or need help with it, please holler. Folks, don't forget, for new babies and such, you can still buy the Mudcat children's CD and also, don't forget those great and now historical Mudcat Blue Plate CDs on THIS PAGE. I say, historical because some of the people on them have passed on and also because they were done a few years ago when we were more in our "infancy" both on Mudcat and the internet itself. Heck there wasn't a youtube, myspace, or facebook back then! |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Amos Date: 12 Nov 08 - 01:26 AM Historical??? Hey!! They're as up to the minute as Bar'bry Ellen!! Find out all about those Mudcat CDs right here and send an order to Dick today!! You will be glad you did!! They have pleased every ear and gentled every heart with which they have come in contact, healed wounded souls, repaired meaningless lives and given new zest to tired relationships. They are reported to have improved musical acuity, enhanced self-esteem and done wonders for the warm spark of human affinity wherever they have been played!! Get yours today!!! |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Melissa Date: 12 Nov 08 - 04:40 AM I like Mudcat not having a bunch of frilly gadgets. Gadgety sites are slow-loaders on my (dial-up) connection. An audio archive would be great..especially if it was open to copies of old recordings. Vicarious participation in catter gatherings would be fun--but if we could pull the dusty old tapes of grandpa singing songs he learned from his grandfather, it could turn into a fascinating Field Collection type knock-off. If there's any consideration of adding video, I think Tutorials would be an excellent resource. With initial submissions limited to your First Generation Members, it wouldn't be hard to set standards and guidelines to sort of guide the archive/tutorials in an appropriate direction. Thank you, Max. This is a lovely (and useful!) creation. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Rasener Date: 12 Nov 08 - 05:09 AM Hi Max There are 2 things that I would love to see on Mudcat. The first one would be to have the ability to edit your own posts. How often have we posted something and afterwards wished we had the chance to correct what we have said. It may be because of spelling errors or simply that we have not structured our comments very well and people then take the comments the wrong way. Sometimes it may be that we have regretted posting on a thread and wish we could remove the post. The second is more about being informative about a thread. It would be nice to be able to see not only how many posts have been made on a thread, but how many times it has been viewed. Both of the above may be simple or difficult to implement, but if it would be simple to implement, I think it would help considerably. Many thanks Les Worrall |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 12 Nov 08 - 05:54 AM Thanks for all this Max. keith. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 12 Nov 08 - 06:00 AM > to have the ability to edit your own posts YESSSSSSSS - please!!! Is there any way you can also organise getting a cut from the British Amazon site http://www.amazon.co.uk ? A lot of us on this side of the pond don't use the American one, not just because of the currency exchange but also prohibitive overseas shipping charges. I've spent a fortune on British Amazon and I'd sure like to see Mudcat get a piece of that. If you can tap into some sales outlet(s) that operate in pounds or euro and ship from Britain/Europe, it would probably fatten the kitty nicely. If I could buy in the UK or Ireland for pounds or euro, I would always use a Mudcat-feeding outlet where it existed. I also think M. Ted's YouTube-sidebar is brilliant, ditto Melissa's audio-archive suggestion. Small private point: How do I get my private email into the Member's Listings? I've contacted the relevant party ages ago but nothing happened. Address is just my name as it appears above, no dots or spaces, {at} g m a i l {dot} c o m - if someone can sort that out I'd be grateful. From the bottom of my fuzzy little heart, THANK YOU Max for all your dedicated work and the sincerity of your commitment. You are an invaluable addition to the internet. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Nov 08 - 06:14 AM Max, I sent ya a PM. JM |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Geoff the Duck Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:09 AM Max - the mudcash raising link to Amazon is good, but it links to the U.S. company. There are a lot of regulars who are in other parts of the globe who might not find what they want there (e.g. DVDs with US/Canada region code may not play on a European DVD player).If you also had a similar link through amazon.co.uk it might bring in cash via the UKers. Perhaps it is also the time to review the Musical/BS sections question, particularly in the light of recent changes in rules about guests starting threads. There are certain categories of thread which, although obviously not music/song, are more useful than pure BS, which some members do not even consider reading. Maybe you could consider a third division, covering specific types of topic - sensible but not specifically music. Perhaps things such as festivals and events, mudcatters organising trips abroad, help tracking down old folkies, maybe birthdays and obituaries. A method of keeping useful social folk information in one place, and not lost in the creative writing, sport and politics below the current line. Something which the "serious music" mudcatters would not simply block from their browsing. Anyway, keep up the good work! Quack! Geoff the Duck. p.s. we can maybe afford a couple of pounds auction bid on Spaw, but could only afford shipping about half way across the atlantic. They would have to leave him there until we saved up for the rest... ;@) |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: semi-submersible Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:10 AM Hmm. "It would be great to have a sidebar where folks could post links," but some features prove great only for folk with up-to-date software. Using an original iMac (same age as my grade 5 son, it's outlasted a couple of younger second-hand laptops) I'm acutely aware that not all web pages display correctly on the old browsers I can run. Would links in a sidebar be easier, or harder for blind readers to see and use through a screen reader? I dunno. Max, good luck making money with commercial partnerships and other ideas, but why would you "want all contributions stopped"? Voluntary contributions to maintain a service we value should be seen as payment, not gift. Call 'em subscriptions (maybe no set amount, Mudcat names listed but amounts not announced unless subscriber asks to list it in a "match thi$" section)? User support is the purest (though not the most lucrative) way to keep up this amazing place you've created. It makes the 'Cat more independent. I only wish it would cover the whole cost. To free your energy for Mudcat, something's got to provide for your household. Not even a tree works for nothing: it gets a living from what it does, turning air and water and sunlight into wood, leaves, fruit, shade, shelter, and ultimately soil richer than the soil in which it began. It does great work, but if it can't make a living there, we don't get a tree. If we want trees about, or fish in rivers, or earthworms in soil, we've got to provide what's needed for them to make a living there. Same thing if we want a busker to make our corner of the world a more pleasant place to stop by, or you to put in some hours with your eyes on this screen instead of on your family (or some paying job) And what is more fair and fitting than allowing those who benefit from work to be the first to support it? Thanks as always, Maureen |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Will Fly Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:45 AM I feel a bit of a fraud giving my comments, being a relative newbie to the Mudcat community, but I'll simply add that: 1. I would welcome the opportunity to increase Mudcat working income by buying from Amazon UK - which I do regularly. 2. The opportunity to edit & delete my own posts would be welcomed. My old eyes and fingers are not what they used to be, and even the most carefully checked posts can have silly errors. I run a much smaller board than this elsewhere, and these facilities are really useful. Will |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:55 AM I too had wondered about the Amazon UK problem. I shop a lot on various Amazon sites (UK mostly, but America, France and Germany too - never Canada these days, I've only ever had problems there!). I do get a link on Amazon.com to the UK site (I'm guessing it might put that link up based on my IP address), so if it's only necessary to connect to Amazon via the Mudcat page I can use the link to get to the UK. But it would be nice to know that that keeps the Mudcat contribution. (Do you get a contribution still if I use Amazon sellers - which I do a lot, Caiman is probably my major source for CDs, they come from the States but at half the cost of the UK. Is it only necessary to use the Amazon site, rather than Amazon sales?) I also agree about the facility to edit your own posts. I do use preview all the time, but sometimes you don't see things until you've submitted the post. A time-limited ability to edit would be good - maybe up to the time someone else posts to the thread (it needs limiting, otherwise you could go back and change something that made subsequent discussion look irrelevant to the original post!). And Max, thanks for all the hard work and the site. Mick |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: kendall Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:05 AM Thanks a lot Max; it's always good to hear from you. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Peter T. Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:09 AM I've said it a million times, and I'll say it again: this is the best site on the Web for this kind of communication (even before you get to the people) because it is clean -- you pioneered this cleanness at a time when the Web was full of frilly crap -- Why did Google win? They kept what they were doing clean. Don't change that. Also, to underline something, Max, you have changed people's lives for the better, you changed mine, and you changed the lives of people I love. You created a community, which in this kind of world is a jewel beyond price. Never, ever forget that. Max Vobiscum yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: GUEST,Dani Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:11 AM Good. I'll read this thread more thoroughly later, but I am reminded of a good thought: "Do what you love. The money will follow." I think there was a book about this, but the statement is what's stuck with me over the years. Dani |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Leadfingers Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:12 AM Hi Max ! Good to see you getting back in the driving seat ! And I like Beagles too - Shame that you didnt get down to Getaway even for an afternoon trip with the Family (AND the Pup) ! Best of Luck . |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: SINSULL Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:15 AM I will watch with interest, Max. How great that you figured this out while your children are young enough to enjoy you. Go for it. SINS |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: artbrooks Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:22 AM Could there be a "via Mudcat" link to CD Baby - that is, if they rebate? |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Mr Red Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:27 AM Remember - there are several floaters in every turd-bowl...sometimes you need to flush twice to kill the krawling kritters as it happens floaters signify a healthy diet. So more floaters the better. Max has done a great job just providing the 'Cat. And as for deleted threads - maybe I am just not provocative enough to be so honoured. But if that is the case I am commfortable with that. Proud even. Long live the 'Cat - whatever accent we talk in. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:34 AM May I humbly suggest yet again that some -named- UK moderators, with power to delete posts and close threads, might make a huge difference in helping to keep us Brits in order? At the moment only Joe seems to have that power and though he uses it very well, the time difference can trip up the system. Flames etc need to be fixed before the neck-biting starts. I say 'seems' because authority has to be visible to be of any use, and Joe's is the only name I've seen that is clearly identified as such. Even after all these years I still don't really who else wears a Mudcat T-shirt. You know the the old maxim, 'speak softly and carry a big stick' - but the stick has to be visible. Oh, and the link facility at the BBC site is great if you could replicate it somehow. Anything with http:// is automatically a link. Here, in case you've never seen it I really do believe that Mudcat has a really important role to play in the world of folk and related musics - so thanks again guys for all your hard work. I hope you can think up some great money-spinning gigs and go from strength to strength Tom |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:40 AM The ability to edit ones own posts is a double edged sword. As some people may use it to their own ends. Re writing history is pretty popular in some circles. You can always ask a clone to edit. That's an Idea, a Members Only Help thread. Not like the open access one we had before which was much abused. You could post any edit requests in there, and whichever clone dealt with it, could then delete it, or mark it done, when the correction is made. JM |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Sleepy Rosie Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:55 AM Sorry, I may have missed something that's obvious to the initiated here, but where to be found are posters personal profile pages?? If I click on the name of a poster, I get directed to a list of their posts, but no profile. If there is such a feature and I've missed it, apologies, but if there isn't it'd be so much nicer to get a feel for an otherwise anonymous online ID, through whatever personal info, my-space or You-Tubey links and whatnot, that they wished to offer for general consumption. As for posters editing their own posts, yeah, tis open to all kinds of misuse! Though I think posters being able to entirely delete their own posts is always a good thing, especially where the poster recognises that their 'contribution' was inapropriate or likely to cause further unecessary argument. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Cool Beans Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:59 AM Thanks for all you do, Max. This is nearly my 1,000th posting (990-something)so obviously Mudcat means a lot to me. For instance...A few days ago I was trying to remember which Doc Watson album contained the song "(I Told Them) All About You." I went to Amazon.com and looked over every Doc Watson album they had. None had the song. So I Googled "Doc Watson" and "Whippoorwill," a significant word in the song. About the fifth entry down I found what I was looking for. It was a Mudcat posting which identified the album as "Doc & Dawg" by Watson and David Grisman. Here's the best part: It was my own posting, from 2005. Long live Mudcat, and thanks again, Max. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:01 AM Here Rosie You'll find lots of info under the headings along the top of that page, in blue. They are not all up to date though. If you click on the drop down menu at the top of the main page, you will find lots of categories of information. JM |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Rapparee Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:07 AM If ideas come I'll forward them on, Max. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Beer Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:41 AM An appropriate title for a book I have just listed on the Auction Block "Our Bit". 100% goes to Mudcat. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:49 AM I'm sure it's reasonable (and probably a technical necessity) to restrict the personal profile pages to members only, but as long as there is a policy of allowing non-members to post, while also not discouraging aliases, the 'shadow-boxing' mentality which runs through Mudcat like a chill banshee is likely to thrive. If we all cast our minds back to those early days when we didn't know who (or what) anyone else was, I'm sure we'll all remember the confusion, tinged perhaps with a little fear that surrounded our early posting. Personally I'm convinced that these twin but inherently contradictory policies - well-meaning though they are, and for all the excellent arguments behind them - are a major root cause the unpleasantness that so quickly turns good discussions bad. If guests could read who everyone else is, they might feel more like joining. I certainly would (though I'd want more pro-active policing of bullying, deliberate misquoting for effect, and bad manners too). Tom |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: katlaughing Date: 12 Nov 08 - 10:39 AM I am a joe clone. If anyone needs help with typos, etc. please send me a PM. |
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