Appropriate-ish quiz

Subject: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 26 Jan 09 - 06:34 PM

This is a quick easy coffee time quiz, though hopefully you will have to think rather than google. There is a theme. Well, actually there are two linked themes.

(This quiz has also been set on another forum. I am putting it here as well for comparison of of the different approaches of the two sites. If you have tried it elsewhere, you are honour bound not to answer here, or you will go to a very bad place)
Answers to be posted right here as you do them, to enable collaborative discussion. The stopwatch has started.

1) Likes his chocolate biscuits, not so fond of Saunders though.
2) Said "That's all right" when Aaron nicked his prize possessions.
3)Had hazy notions of location of the windy city.
4) Sang "God save the Queen", or something rather similar.
5) He bowed and scraped to Monsieur Moreau (forgot this clue initially, now reinserted)
6) Nigerian royal royal, born on a Sunday.
7) Just span for the last time(second name)
8) Last drops just ran out of the bucket
9) Famous, if unlikely,Kirkliston band .
10) Pioneered,among other things, unlikely way of taking books to school.(second name)
11) Gertie with a lucky pedal extremity.
12) Partner possibly made soap flakes?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 03:35 AM

Perhaps I should ahve made clear that it is the first part of the name we are looking at in each clue, unless specified otherwise.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 09:13 AM

Is 6) King Sunny Ade? Or Sunny?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 09:21 AM

What or who are/is Saunders - assuming it's not where Owl lives?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 09:52 AM

No 7 Ans Hall (Cliff Hall)

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 09:55 AM

10 Louis Armstrong (satchel mouth)??

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 10:17 AM

No 2. Arthur Crudup

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 11:41 AM

10 - Satchel Paige?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 01:44 PM

11   Ma Rainey

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 04:07 PM

2 Moses
6 Solomon

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 04:21 PM

Is 4 about THE SEX PISTOLS ?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 04:39 PM

I thought Solomon, as in Grundy, but he was born on a Monday

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 08:39 AM

Robert Johnson SWEET HOME CHICAGO

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,johnmc
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 12:11 PM

Is it Kings? Arthur, Louis, Robert, Solomon etc

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 02:18 PM

John   Rotten       King John

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 03:14 PM

Update of correct answers, in case you can spot the main theme(or the subsidiary one) developing

1
2 Arthur Crudup
3 Robert Johnson
4
5
6 King Sunny Ade
7 Hall(Cliff)
8
9
10 Amstrong (Louis)
11 Ma Rainey
12

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 03:14 AM

8 is Odetta.

(I think I've got both themes, but it's not helping!)

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 05:36 PM

Pip,
Did you read about "collaborative discussion"? Any chance of divulging a theme?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 05:45 PM

Well, there are a couple of things that the answers have in common; that's what I think is the main theme. As for the subsidiary theme, here are the initials we've got so far (spacing adjusted slightly):

_ A R _ _ K   H   O _ A M _

Does that help?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 05:58 PM

Great work, Pip. President Obama - gives us a start on remaining clues. Morse would be proud of you.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 06:10 PM

Burach are a group with S Brechin from Kirkliston.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 06:16 PM

Could 8 be Odetta ?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 06:37 PM

4 Aretha?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 05:06 AM

Other subsidiary link (without resorting to Google)
Are they all also surnames (of presidents) I recognise (Chester) Arthur, and (Lyndon B) Johnson

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 06:00 AM

Burach are not the Kirkliston band. A reasonable answer, but they are not unlikely, and do not fit the subsidiary theme. Aretha Franklin and Odetta are correct.
The subsidiary theme is not presidents.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 06:34 AM

Apologies, Pip. I failed to notice you got there first with Odetta.
Could Saunders be Jennifer?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 07:08 AM

Is 9 The Bhundu Boys

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 07:08 AM

1. Bhundu Boys

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 07:10 AM

9 even for Bhundu Boys - cross posted

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 07:51 AM

Could 1 be Bernie Gallagher

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 09:46 AM

9 Bundu Boys: correct
1 Is not Bernie Gallagher

So far:
1) Likes his chocolate biscuits, not so fond of Saunders though.
2) Arthur Crudup
3)Robert Johnson
4) Aretha Franklin
5) He bowed and scraped to Monsieur Moreau
6) King Sunny Ade
7 Hall(Cliff)Just span for the last time(second name)
8) Odetta
9) Bhundu Boys
10) Armstrong (Louis)
11) Ma Rainey
12) Partner possibly made soap flakes?

So 1, 5 and 12 still to do, I think. A statement of the subsidiary theme might help to solve the last ones. I don't think it has been mentioned yet.
Time for a few clues possibly (they needed a lot on the other site!).
My clue for 1 was challenged, on the grounds that it should have been cake not biscuit.
For 5, where might people bow and scrape, know somebody called Moreau, and fit the subsidiary theme?
12 shouldn't be difficult, how many kinds of soap flake do you know?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 10:12 AM

In the spirit of discussion: Clue ! needs blues artist beginning with B.
BB King Big Joe Turner or Williams Big Bill Broonzy Brownie McGee

Eccles Cake    Jennifer S      Jennifer Eccles   

   Jaffa Cake



Bowing and scraping         Violin

Soap flake   Lux

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 10:21 AM

What makes you think 1 must be a blues artist? I am not saying it is or it isn't, but why would you think that?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Will Fly
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 11:08 AM

Is it just my imagination, or do the first letters, when read down as an acrostic, make up the name of the newest American President...?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 11:15 AM

NO Will F it is not your imagination. But I think others have beaten you to that deduction! However, nobody has spotted the subsidiary theme to the quiz, which will certainly help with getting the last three right.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 11:43 AM

Greg
I think I overstated that: wasn't sure about the sort of music the African artists did.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 11:55 AM

I thought the other theme was 'they're all Black musicians' - or is it not that obvious?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 12:04 PM

Max Jaffa was a violinist

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 12:10 PM

Fritz Kreisler violinist, played for Louis Moreau ?

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 01:53 PM

Pip Radish has spotted what is going on here. All the artists are black, though they cover several continents and genres of music. I think you will find that it will be obvious whether you have the right answer anyway, the clues are pretty specific.
Google away chaps, don't want this going on too long.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 03:18 PM

5 Chevalier de Saint-Georges (googled)

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 03:40 PM

Are these American soap flakes or British soap flakes?

Wasn't there a Colonel Saunders?

SteveG

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: tijuanatime
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 03:41 PM

12. Albert Ammons - boogie-woogie pianist, associated with Meade Lux Lewis

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 03:52 PM

1 Bosambo

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 05:47 PM

tijuanatime: Albert Ammons is quite correct. Just leaves the C bower anmd scraper(not Chevalier de St George, unless you can explain why it should be!). And also the B in Q1, who is not Boasambo(unless Bosambo is something to do with chocolate biscuits and doesn't like someone called Saunders).

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 08:43 AM

Well, I hope someone finishes the last few clues. It's dangling in the air.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: tijuanatime
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 08:55 AM

The only musical Moreau I know is the 19th century composer Louis Moreau Gottschalk.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: GUEST,johnmc
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 09:01 AM

For discussion:
    Is the Saunders clue saying "someone who dislikes chicken"? Also, BOWER is either a fiddler or a crawler?
Moreau not known to me.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Nerd
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 09:10 AM

#5 is Canray (Fontenot), the Creole fiddler who sang and played "Bonsoir Moreau."

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Nerd
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 09:13 AM

By the way, the chicken magnate was SANDERS, not SAUNDERS, so unless Greg made a mistake it has nothing to do with that.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 11:40 AM

Nerd: quite right, Canray Fontenot.
Saunders is the correct spelling, I believe, though I have seen it spelt the other way.Have a think folks, kinds of chocolate biscuits(or are they cakes?). And as another clue, I think they originate in the country where the theme of the quiz lives, as does the answewr to the clue.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Nerd
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 12:11 PM

Greg,

if you mean the chicken person, it is definitely Sanders and not Saunders. Harland David Sanders was the entrepreneur and chef who founded Kentucky Fried Chicken. He was a "Kentucky Colonel," which is an honorary title given out by the state of Kentucky (sort of like a state-level knighthood!) Hence his trademarked name, Colonel Sanders.

You are unclear in your above post whether you do mean Colonel Sanders, or whether there is some other person who is really name Saunders but sometimes incorrectly called Sanders. Unless you clarify, it might be hard to guess the final clue.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 12:34 PM

OK Nerd. To clarify, here is the last clue that needs solving.

1) Likes his chocolate biscuits, not so fond of Saunders though.

It is nothing whatsover to do with Colonel Sanders or chickens in any shape or form. The chocolate biscuits(or some would say cakes) originate(I believe) in the same country as the main subject/theme of the whole quiz. By the way,I am writing in England. In America, where nomenclature is differewnt, I am not sure if the object referred to is a cake, or a cookie, or indeed something quite other.
The answer, it has been established, will be a black musician, as are all the other answers. And in this case, the black musician is not fond of Saunders.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Nerd
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 12:56 PM

The black musician who springs to mind for number one is Bo Diddley. He was always annoyed that people said he ripped the Bo Diddley Beat off of Red Saunders's "Hambone," and claimed to have been using the beat long before Saunders's hit.

But I can't think what the biscuit/cookie/cake would be.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Nerd
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 02:30 PM

Got it! Brownie McGhee!

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Nerd
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 02:31 PM

McGee fell out with Saunders Terrell (aka Sonny Terry) in the 1970s, and they didn't play together after that.

Sonny died in 1986, Brownie in 1996.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 06:01 PM

Correct, Nerd. Great, that is the end of that quiz. Following in the old traditrions, I have added up scores, made a few estimates and decided arbitrarily
NERD: IT IS YOUR TURN TO SET THE NEXT QUIZ!!

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Ed.
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 04:35 AM

This is a quick easy coffee time quiz

My arse!

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 05:30 AM

e was a "Kentucky Colonel," which is an honorary title given out by the state of Kentucky (sort of like a state-level knighthood!) Hence his trademarked name, Colonel Sanders.

So is Jean Redpath.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 06:05 AM

Ed said:
"This is a quick easy coffee time quiz
My arse!"

Well, I thought it would be! Maybe some of the quiz buffs were away on holiday. Or tobogganing, or something.

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 06:06 AM

Depends on the length of the coffee break. I had a whole day one yesterday...

Subject: RE: Appropriate-ish quiz
From: Nerd
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 09:07 AM

Okay, I'll get to work on a quiz...