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Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?

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FREIHEIT
HANS BEIMLER
LA QUINCE BRIGADA
LOS CUATROS GENERALES
SI ME QUIERES ESCRIBIR
VENGA JALEO
VIVA LA QUINCE BRIGADA


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GeoffLawes 27 Jan 09 - 08:54 PM
MartinRyan 28 Jan 09 - 04:48 AM
GeoffLawes 28 Jan 09 - 07:22 PM
GeoffLawes 29 Jan 09 - 05:48 PM
Folkiedave 29 Jan 09 - 06:33 PM
GUEST,Kate Lebow 30 Jan 09 - 06:06 AM
Jim Carroll 30 Jan 09 - 06:57 AM
GeoffLawes 01 Feb 09 - 07:28 PM
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GeoffLawes 13 May 10 - 01:34 PM
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Subject: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 08:54 PM

I was doing some research into local Hull men who volunteered to fight against Franco in the Spanish Civil War and I came across a songbook that once belonged to one of these volunteers named Sam Walters. The songbook is entitled 'Canciones de Guerra de las Brigades Internacionales'and contains songs in English, Spanish, German,French, Polish and Italian.Sam Walters had used the songbook as an autograph book while he was in Spain and had collected about 120 signatures, some with supplementary inscriptions such as country of origin and political affiliation.The man who was the current owner of the book asked me to help him get the songbook placed in the archive of the International Brigades Memorial Trust which is housed at the Marx Memorial Library in London. I am currently doing this but I am also trying to positively identify all of the signatories and record any information about them that I can find. I am preparing to copy all my research plus scanned images of the songbook onto a disk to be lodged in the IBMT archive.

   There are about 30 of the 120 signatories about whom I am still seeking information. Deciphering their handwriting is the problem with some but with others it is a question of finding some other source of information which confirms their identity or provides some information. I have used other web based sources of information and research such as the ALBA site in the US and have been given some useful help as a result but I think I have got as
much from these as I can and if any Mudcatters are interested I would appreciate your help before I call an end to my quest.
If you would like to see if you can help then follow THIS LINK
and once on the site click on the blue PDF clicky to see images of the signatures.
The site that is kindly putting up the images for me has reproduced my original list of all 120 men, about whom I would still like to receive further information or photographs if you have any, but it is on the 30+ men who are still not satisfactorily identified that I am most anxious to get a lead. Here is a list of them

A1 Kormick Famoaizo   C.S.R                   ( Czech?)
A2 Tormanek Josep      C.S.R   K.G.E            ( Czech?)
A4 P. Marks             Albanais                         (Albanian? )
A5 Colvoseth Joseph            Polen
A7 Basilio Niliturk      P. C. Polaco      ( Polish Communist Party)
A8 Frans Nusholm Wien    KPO Vienna,             ( Austrian) Communist Party)
A9 Ruinburwz KPO Austria
A12 Jorge Guardado Cueto                                           (Guiardado? Ceuta?)
A14 Otto Damm    German
A15 Oswald Spieker   Germany



B1 Günter Frittner Germany Berlin
B3 Yakah Bertalan Czekoslovaki Kral Chlumec                         (Czechoslovakia, Chlumec Král'ovskı)
B4 Nagy Foin   C S R Giroz
B9 Francisco Bustamonte Sonepej
C1Jack Hall C.P.U.S.A ( No Jack Hall on ALBA list)
C3 Basilio Gilipuk   P.C.                (Giliptek, Gilipeck)

C4 Chandor Fegin Budapest
C5 Hermann Lundert K S C Bratislava Keirmann? (Communist Party of Czechoslovakia)
C6 Nagy Foin K S E Paiovo(KSC Paisvo-same signatory as B4 Czech ?)                                       
C8 Friedt örmdrt Scliage KPP          (Polish Communist Party)
C9 Jurczyk Boleslaw K PP             ( Polish Communist Party)
C10 Skulimowski Jozep PPS -DKP Josep( German Communist Party)
C14 Antonio Castigluzii Italia       ( Vallonio ? )
C16 - - - p e - i - - - - a       Italia


E1Rafael Octaea Barcelona U.G.T    (Union General de Trabajadores)
F6 Benito Hojuer       (Benito Fige _ _ _ _ _ ?   Ernesto?)
F7- - - - - - - - - R.Pla del Besos Barcelona ( Catalunya) S S (TC) PSUC( Partit Socialista Unificat de Catalunya)

K3 Ernst Lufs Rot-Front Madrid 1937
L6 Marcos Moreno Luez Badalona (Barcelona) España

M10 Joaquin Brandao da Amoin   Portugaul

M14 David Dane      London. England. ( C.P.)         ( Daws?)


M15   Aeonng Afanasiev KPCCP(Entry in Cyrillic -Russian orBulgarian?)
N8    James P Hassett   Aberdeen West

If someone in Aberdeen could look at Aberdeen's International Brigades Memorial that would be a helpful confirmation of N8.I think it is in a library.
All contributions and creative thinking will be gratefully received and I shall credit you with any new information that goes on the disk if you let me have your name.

Regards, Geoff Lawes


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: MartinRyan
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 04:48 AM

PM sent.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 07:22 PM

Thanks


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 05:48 PM

Thanks for your PM Folkiedave. I have sent an e mail as you suggested.


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 06:33 PM

We meet once each month - as it happens it is tomorrow!!

Dave


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GUEST,Kate Lebow
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 06:06 AM

A5: I think that's 'ek' at the end of the surname, but I can't make out the rest. 'Colovoseth' is almost certainly wrong.

A7: Might be 'Niletnik' or something like that.

C10: 'Jozef,' not 'Jozep.' PPS is Polish Socialist Party.

I'm just starting a research project on Polish volunteers in the Int'l Brigades, so I'll keep an eye out for these names.


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 06:57 AM

Geoff
My father was in Spain. I would love to have been able to help with this fascinating query, but I have no information on any of the names.
I don't know if it's of any use but there is a group based in Dublin who meet annually somewhere in Ireland to commemorate the war. I will happily pass on an e-mail address if it might be any help.
Best wishes,
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 07:28 PM

Thank you for that offer Jim - I am sending a PM with my address.

Thank you too Kate Lebow. That was very helpful. Deciphering handwriting when you are not familiar with the language and with the likely occurance of names in that language, is very difficult. I guess from your name that you have an advantage in these things. Thanks for giving me Polish Socialist Party for the letters PPS inscribed after C10's name. I had assumed that DKP stood for the German Communist Party. I suppose he could have been Polish and had spent time in Germany?
Do you know if there is an organisation for veterans , families and friends of International Brigaders in Poland ? I have not managed to find one yet. From my research into the songbook I have picked up other web based resources that you might find useful in your project but I'm not able send you a Personal Message with my e mail address unless you sign up as a Mudcat member. If that doesn't take your fancy I would say sign up for the ALBA e mail list ALBA LINK
which will allow you to send open e mails requesting information to a list of IB experts and enthusiasts worldwide ( But maybe you are already signed up .)

Thanks again for the help.

Regards, Geoff Lawes


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 06:43 PM

I have posted links to the old Granada series of six TV films about the Spanish Civil War on the Mudcat link called

Lyr Req: Jack Atky & All: Spanish Civil War Song

The series is on You Tube but is I think unavailable elsewhere. I thought some of you who posted on this thread might be interested.

Regards, Geoff


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GUEST,Bryan Thierfelder
Date: 13 May 10 - 12:07 PM

Otto Damm is my great grandfather - if you have a photo of him I would really like a copy.


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 13 May 10 - 01:34 PM

Hi Bryan Thierfelder,

I do not have a photograph of Otto Damm and you are the first person to positively identify him. Otto Damm signed Sam Walters' Songbook but the (German) Association of Combatants and Friends
of the Spanish Republic 1936 - 1939) was not able to identify him with that name. What they told me was:

The signature of Otto Damm could be one of the brigadist, Hugo Kraus,but I'm not certain about it. He had the name "Otto Dames" in Spain.

That is all that I have managed to get so far - but if your great grandfather was actually called Otto Damm and you know that he fought in Spain then it is likely to be his signature. I can send you a photo of the page with the signature if you want it. I would not advise you to put your email address up on this thread for security reasons but if you sign up as a Mudcat member you can send me a Private Message (PM) and then I can let you have my email address and then you can give me your email address so that I can send the photo (jpeg) Complicated but safe!

If you don't want the photo please post any information that you are happy to share up on this thread as I would like to include it in the information to be put in the International Brigades Archive in London ( where the Songbook has now been placed)


Regards, Geoff Lawes


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 13 May 10 - 03:24 PM

Bryan Thierfelder: if I do not reply to a post which you make here, it will be because I shall be away from home for a while.

Regards, Geoff


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GUEST,David Roland
Date: 15 Dec 10 - 01:49 PM

Help! Lyrics (and music) Abraham Lincoln Walks Again


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 15 Dec 10 - 05:47 PM

Hi Guest David Roland,

                   Here is a link to another Mudcat thread with a link to a site where you can hear a clip of the song you are after but I have not yet got the whole set of lyrics
Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BATTLEFIELDS OF SPAIN
From: GUEST,Sandy
Date: 15 Dec 10 - 08:06 PM

I got this from a post in 2002.
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=44455

It's to the tune of "Roddy McCorley."

THE BATTLEFIELDS OF SPAIN

For the James Connolly Column of the International Brigade Tune: "Roddy McCorley" (or "Sean South")

Oh, workers dear, did you hear our comrades' call to arms?
It echoed in the cities and it echoed on the farms,
In shipyard and in factory, and upon the fields of grain,
To defend our fellow workers on the battlefields of Spain.

John Riley was a trade union man, our shop floor he did lead,
He fought against the fascist thugs, he fought the bosses' greed,
And now he leads the Connolly Column of the bold Fifteenth Brigade,
And he's gone to fight the fascists on the battlefields of Spain.

Who will call the meeting now and who will take the chair?
And who will lead us out on strike when we demand our share?
For Johnny, brave young Johnny, at home shall not remain,
For he's gone to fight the fascists on the battlefields of Spain.

If fascist bullets won't permit our Wild Geese to come home,
Their tragic loss to Ireland we'll never cease to mourn,
For they fought for the Connolly Column in the bold Fifteenth Brigade,
And they died for the Spanish working class on the battlefields of Spain.


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Subject: RE: Spanish Civil War Songbook Can You Help?
From: mikesamwild
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 07:22 AM

it's got echoes of Bantry Girls' Lament referring to the Penisular War. To that tune it could make a song equally as powerful as Jamie Foyers, I've been having a go for years but not ready to put it out. Anybody else fancy a go?.


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