Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: melodeonboy
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 09:48 AM

He's not smiling. He's just incredibly pissed!

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: melodeonboy
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 09:55 AM

By the way, am I right to assume that all previous comments on this thread are based on the 1954 definition of Mr. Bridge?

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 11:25 AM

Ah - naughty40, to be fair to me the photographer had me pulling different faces for 5 minutes while he got the shot he wanted. He wanted me simultaneously (a) looking at the camera (b) looking as if I were about to drink my pint (which at that time was in fact orange squash) (c) pursing my lips as if about to pull at my pint and (d) smiling. You try doing all those at once - and looking natural after 5 minutes of it.


I look forward with interest, however, to reading the 1954 definition of me since I am September 1948 model (well, that was when I rolled off the production line, so maybe manufacture (or womanufacture) started just in 1947). 1954 was the year we came back from Australia (through Suez, not round the horn).

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: TheSnail
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 12:41 PM

From another thread -

Richard Bridge

Oh, and in case any other dimshits have not got it the point of my "arrest warrant" thread is to demonstrate that knowing the difference between folk music and other types does not prevent enjoyment of the other types, nor does it inhibit the folk process.

I was beginning to wonder.

Has anyone ever made such claims? Sounds just as daft as Lizzie's rantings about peasants and professors.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 12:48 PM

Oh, and in case any other dimshits have not got it the point of my "arrest warrant" thread is to demonstrate that knowing the difference between folk music and other types does not prevent enjoyment of the other types, nor does it inhibit the folk process.


Indeed not - pedantry in all things however so benign the eclecticism. It's no less than we've come to expect.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 12:57 PM

Real beard, real hair, real tankard, and a real midfriff much contributed to by real ale.

In 1954, Mr. Bridge upon returning to the UK, landed himself in care. Unfortunately the only household able to cope with his Ozzie ways was Gram and Pappy Trad. Their home was a bit over crowded with dancers and musos that society just did not want. Misfits.

After a number of years hard graft in the Morris Dance Mill, the still young Mr. Bridge experienced a foray into the dark seamy underworld of rock and roll, much to his foster family's dismay.

Fortunately, due to the love of his foster family, the good work of the social care system and a really scary "unbrainwasher" called Bubba, Mr. Bridge came to his good sense and returned to his roots. He flourished for some time in the tradition.

Sadly age and dementia seem to be taking their toll, as Mr. Bridge is experiencing backsliding and a regression to youthful bad habits.

Let us all form a song circle around Richard, that he may be called back in the folk fold.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: The Barden of England
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 02:07 PM

There - you see. Guilty as charged!! Not EVEN 'Round the Horn' but via Suez. And you should be 'bound for South Australia' rather than leaving. And as for smiling *&$£&***, whatever next? And no finger in ear either. The pewter pot doesn't fool me you know.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: TheSnail
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 02:13 PM

Wait a minute.

Comes from Australia, claims to be an authority on what is and isn't folk music.

Not only is he Insane Jockstrap, he's WalkAboutsVerse as well!

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 02:26 PM

I take it you're not a big fan of RB then Snail?

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: The Barden of England
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 02:34 PM

I saw him eating Escargot a few weeks back. No wonder TheSnail has a problem - they were relatives!
John Barden

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: TheSnail
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 02:44 PM

Sorry. All intended in fun. This thread did start off with a rather silly premise.

My only contribution that was intended to be taken mildly seriously was my response to Richard's "dimshits" remark. He seems to be attacking a straw man.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: The Barden of England
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 03:17 PM

It is taken as fun, honest. Please keep contributing.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 03:50 PM

Not only is he Insane Jockstrap, he's WalkAboutsVerse as well!

The Sycophantic Mollusc slimes past again! Don't you just love Mudcat during a heatwave?

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: The Barden of England
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 03:54 PM

Don't go there - stop it now!!!!!
John Barden

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 04:26 PM

(CHORUS)
Hang down your head, Mister R Bridge
Hang down your head and cry
Hang down you head, Mister R Bridge
For boy, you're goin' to die.

'Way over there in England
There he made Folk a wreck
Played them a piece by Dylan,
The Who, and "Route 66" for a check.

(Chorus, if you can't figure it out for yourself)

Folking Police done caught him
Now he's marking time
Tomorrow he'll be drawn and quartered
Around a quarter of nine.

(Sing the Chorus until you're sick of it)

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 04:37 PM

"Not only is he Insane Jockstrap, he's WalkAboutsVerse as well!"

take deeps breaths, slowly, in out, in out.....now I need a cup of tea.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 04:47 PM

Another man done gone
He sings another song
Another man done gone
His folking days now done
Another man done gone

I didn't know his game
Folk by another name
I didn't know his game
It's just a crying shame
I just can't play this game

Say so long to the chain
1954 defamed
Say so long to the chain
Now trad is on the wane
Say so long to the chain

Another song done gone
And Bridge has done us wrong
Another song done gone
From the roots tradition
Another man done gone

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: The Barden of England
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 05:07 PM

In the year '54 '54,
With Winston at the door,
And Eden, waiting for,
His chance to take the floor.

That's the year, oh yes indeed,
Some academic saw a need,
To up and plant a lasting seed,
And give us all a rote, a creed.

A definition, that to most,
May just as well be writ on toast,
So that all may stand and boast,
We are the ones that know the most.



A thought in progress - John Barden

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 07:03 PM

I went to Australia in '51. Also through Suez.

Love the songs (apart from the tenet of yours, John - is it supposed to resemble Zager and Evans 2525?).

Snail, many many many people (particularly horse definitioners) here seem to think (or at least say) that I somehow disapprove of non-54-folk   music or that I think people should only sing '54 songs, or that I say that '54 songs should only be sung in the manners in which they were originally (whatever that means) were sung. Of course I don't and the '54 definition with reasonable specificity allows for the folk process (ie change in the songs) and evolution of the styles of songs.

I hope I have laid that ghost, and may the japing continue.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 07:48 PM

He's a man you don't (wanna) meet evry day.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: TheSnail
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 08:46 PM

Richard Bridge

Snail, many many many people (particularly horse definitioners) here seem to think (or at least say) that I somehow disapprove of non-54-folk   music or that I think people should only sing '54 songs, or that I say that '54 songs should only be sung in the manners in which they were originally (whatever that means) were sung. Of course I don't and the '54 definition with reasonable specificity allows for the folk process (ie change in the songs) and evolution of the styles of songs.

I must say that I have never noticed anything like that and I spend more time on here than is good for me. I would have thought that it is perfectly obvious that you hold the 1954 definition in respect and place great value on the music that it seeks to define (as do I) but that you are also enthusiastic about other styles (as am I, but not necessarily the same styles).

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 09:14 PM

Well, they handed him his orders in Oxford, England,
Sayin', "Richard stay way behind the times.
This is not 2009, it is Nineteen Fifty-Four
You must never sing after that time."

Well, the artist he said to his greasy old soundman
"Shovel in a little more roll,
And when we cross that Dylan singin'
You can hear my Martin roll."

It's a mighty hard way from "Lord Randall" to Led Zeppelin
Like road with a ten-mile grade
It was on that grade that the folk police caught him
When they saw what a jump he made.

Now listen all you Folkers, you must all take a warning
From this story a lesson learn
Never play nothin' that would raise the FP's suspicions
They may take you and you'll never return.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: The Barden of England
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 03:26 AM

You got it Richard - May the farce be with you :o)
John

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 03:54 AM

Ah, thank you Snail. I feel sure that others have laid the charges that I mentioned against me in various "what is folk" threads. But I'm not going to go over them all to check!

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 04:25 AM

Hmmmm... I still maintain anything sung by an inveterate folkie like Richard Bridge is Folk regardless of musical type (or even personal hype) and certainly nothing I saw in the YouTube video persuaded me otherwise. This is what Folk Music has become; in every Designated Folk Context there'll be someone like Richard, self-consciously doing their bit for eclecticism wholly innocent of the fact that whatever old bollocks they're singing fits the 1954 Definition like a glove. I feel sure an ethnomusicological study of the phenomenon that is Richard Bridge would only serve to confirm this.

So maybe it's time to replace the horse definition with The Bridge Definition: if Richard sings it, it is folk.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: romany man
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 04:30 AM

never mind rb, just dont mention the electric mando and stuff, you can always run away, i will sell ya a good orse an vardo, they will never find ya

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: fisheye
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 04:47 AM

Perhaps I could arrange a personal interview with this Mr.Bridge, then without drastic cutting it could be shown on You Tube for the world to see the real man (i believe he does fit this gender somewhere). As a Folk Singer he does fit this description perhaps a little biased, as a solicitor his advice (free) in the past has been useful,as a beer drinker he can hold his own. As a friend I am proud to add him.

fisheye

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: The Barden of England
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 05:02 AM

as a beer drinker he can hold his own

He certainly ain't holding mine, the f**k police would have another charge :-)
John Barden

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 05:12 AM

John, I would never interfere with your beer: a man could lose his hand for less!

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 12:54 PM

I think the definition of a "folk song" is that it is sung by a folkie.
Richard is a Mudcat member - ergo he is a folkie, and is therefore entitled to sing whatever he likes.
Wether WE like it or not is our problem :-)

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 01:18 PM

Dead Horse?

Errr...


Go!


Please.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 09:42 AM

I do. Frequently.
But I keep taking the tablets......

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 09:45 AM

No doubt what the tablets are for...

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:39 AM

I think the definition of a "folk song" is that it is sung by a folkie.

Whilst it might not be the definition, it certainly counts for something with regard to a more pragmatic, or even folkloric, understanding of the phenomenon post-1954. As I said above somewhere, if Richard sings it, it must be folk...

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 08:51 PM

"...the phenomenon post..."
I missed that one. What thread was it in?

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: TheSnail
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:09 AM

This is boringly obvious but, the definition of a folkie is...?

Bryan Creer

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:15 AM

Someone who sings (&/or otherwise enthuses about) folk songs...

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: melodeonboy
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:17 AM

'"...the phenomenon post..."
I missed that one. What thread was it in?'

It's a gaily painted piece of wood, approximately 5 feet high. And when you walk past it, you are taken aback by its appearance and you say "Blimey!".

An alternative version, often used by those of exceptionally low intelligence, is the "phenomenon plank".

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:23 AM

It is, of course, a folk-art...

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Will Fly
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:26 AM

I'm still worried about the beard proliferation. The Kent area is getting very hairy these days. Seeing Richard Bridge on YouTube was one thing, and then bugger me if Dead Horse hasn't grown a chin thatch since before Christmas. Gave me quite a shock last week. The Folk Police had better arm themselves with Gillette Mach 3s.

We have licences for such things in Sussex - beards, I mean, not Mach 3s.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: TheSnail
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:34 AM

And the definition of a folk song is...?

Bryan Creer

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: TheSnail
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:44 AM

Come off it Will. When I saw the video of Richard I thought, for a moment, it was you.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Will Fly
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:51 AM

Mine's a licensed beard - and actually quite trim and modest at the moment - without the magnificence of Richard's growth. Anyway it was the Dead Horse beard that startled me the most - a most exotic and luxuriant variation. I can't compete with these two.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: TheSnail
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 07:01 AM

I don't think I'm acquainted with Mr Horse (or his beard). Does he sing?

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Will Fly
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 07:09 AM

He's a lean, mean Cajun man living on jumbo gumbo and wild turkey down in Kent. And he owns a very fine Cajun accordion which I've been wrestling with, until last week, for some months.

However, getting back to beards in general, would you say Richard's is a Folk Beard according to the 1954 Definition?

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 07:49 AM

The difference is obvious. Will's beard can play the guitar. Mine can't. Don't even sound same. Simples.

My beard however is of a type adopted into the community and adapted by it (compare Brian Blessed) and I have been wearing it since 1965 - the height of the revival, so plainly it is a folk beard.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 07:51 AM

PS, Mr Horse, of course (of course) disproves the Horse definition. After him you can say that you have heard a horse sing. Therefore not all songs are folk songs.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: TheSnail
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 08:07 AM

Beards. Oral transmission. Not sure that I want to think about that.

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 05:24 AM

snork! Gotta love the beard envy thing goin on here.

Harness your hirsute happiness

Subject: RE: Arrest warrant issued for Richard Bridge
From: Will Fly
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:19 AM

Ye gods - a plaited beard! I see from the web page that the US is now the world's beard superpower in these championships. There's certainly some stiff competition...

I prefer mine short these days - got a very expensive beard trimmer for Christmas - and I go once over all round the face on setting no. 7, once a fortnight. I could give Richard and Ken a run for their money if I tried, but mine would hold too much soup and biscuit crumbs. Still, keeping it short is better than shaving legs, I suppose. As for waxing - SHUDDER!

Beards look good on "wanted" posters, though...