Kendall and Deckman On The Air?

Subject: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 10:02 PM

I have been trying and trying to verify this, but here goes.

Supposedly, so I'm told by my staff who should know, tomorrow at 6 p.m. MDT Mr. Kendall Morse and Mr. Bob Nelson will be on KISU-FM (www.kisu.org). They will be interviewed seperately, as the world could not take them both at the same time.

I can't swear to it because my staff didn't tell me that this was really going to happen, but it's suppose to. I've waited until now to announce it because I've been trying to find out if it really supposed to happen tomorrow, June 8.

That's at 8 p.m. EDT, 7 p.m. CDT, 6 p.m. MDT, 5 p.m. PDT, 4 p.m. ADT, and 0100 June 9 for you UKers. Everyone else has to figure it out for themselves.

www.kisu.org.

Pick from the menu on the page about the programs currently being broadcast.

Do not try to call in questions, as the interviews are taped to remove pauses, coughing spells, and any speck of Truth no matter how small.

Anyway, this is what's SUPPOSED to happen. But I'm the Library Director, so I don't know nothing and I just do what the staff tells me to do.

At the very least you'll hear JA Jance and Nancy Pearl.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: maeve
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 10:10 PM

Thanks, Rapaire. I'll give it a try 'cause rumor has it that Kendall managed to slip a few specks of truth past you.

maeve

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 10:24 PM

Thanks for the reminder. I'll be there.

In any case, I've heard Nancy Pearl a lot on KUOW-FM (she's kind of a kick), the local NPR affiliate, and I've met J. A. Jance a couple of times. I enjoy her mysteries (some set in Seattle, some in Arizona).

Hoping that Bob and Kendall will be on, but in any case, I'll be there with my ears hanging out.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Deckman
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 12:07 AM

Hey Rapaire ... I can understand your frustration. As a director it's your job to set the policy and then pray, on bended knee, that everyone else will follow through faithfully. Heck ... I've had three children based on the same premise!

But, I have figured out the glitch ... (remember that you heard from me first). Please don't tell ANYONE ELSE! It was all those stories I told of Senator Joe and the FBI and me ... musta' scared the BEJEEZES out of everyone in Idaho! CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 08:36 AM

No, it's just that I've gotten the staff to the point where they don't need me very much. Which is what I wanted to do when I took the job. I take the heat, answer the nasty patrons, and deal with the BIG issues like the budget. Then I think up stuff like these radio interviews and delegate, delegate, delegate.

As I keep saying, I'm in management: I just think 'em up, other people gotta make 'em work.

Like the time I was on a cruise. I called back, my #2 asked me if I minded if we changed the layout of Administration around -- basically switching sides of the office area. I asked if it would get us more efficiency, she said she thought it would, I said "Okay, let's try it."
"Good," she replied. "We didn't want to have to change it back."

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: open mike
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 11:33 AM

is the show called "local" or "world"?

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 02:29 PM

It's local.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Deckman
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 03:37 PM

I just heard that we WILL be broadcast at 6PM tonight, Idaho time. bob

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Deckman
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 03:40 PM

OOOOPS! That's 5PM Idaho time. bob, who is still taking clock reading lessons!

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 03:54 PM

Ahhhh... ya know... it would be a good idea if times were given in Mudcat time. This IS the internut and many nuts don't "know" time zones, even their own wrt UTC. But, it's pretty simple to figure things out in MCT... just post and Bob's yer uncle.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 04:37 PM

8 p.m. Mudcat time.

www.kisu.org

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Azizi
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 07:58 PM

Here's the blue clicky:

http://www.isu.edu/kisufm/

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Allan C.
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 08:26 PM

I'm listening to Kendall right now. He just finished attempting to answer a question posed to him: What makes folkies different? He couched his response in a half dozen disclaimers and then said, that the main difference is that while those who listen to pop music listen for the beat, folkies pay more attention to the lyrics.

Good one, Kendall! I fully expected you to jump on the straight line, though.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Deckman
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 08:27 PM

We just listened to Kendall's show ... very, very moving. bob

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: kendall
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 08:34 PM

I blew it! I was talking about Sandy Ives as an expert on folk music, then I mentioned Folk Legacy and instead of saying Sandy PATON I said Sandy Ives agin. Damn.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Azizi
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 08:39 PM

Kendall, I listened to the interview and I didn't catch that error.

Your interview was interesting. It helped me know you better. With regard to your comment that you blew it because you made a mistake in the last name, remember the whole is more than the sum of its parts.

:o)

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: kendall
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 08:51 PM

That's very kind of you. I'm my own worst critic.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 08:59 PM

We just enjoyed Bob's interview. It is nice to actually hear people who have previously only been read.

Kendall always beats himself up more than anyone else ever could or would.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 09:01 PM

Good. Now what could WE do better?

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 09:05 PM

Damn and blast! I missed a bunch of the interview.

A few weeks ago I buggered my back real good, and this afternoon, my chiropractor, who is willing to make house calls (how amazing is that!??) came to give me a badly needed work-over. By the time I recovered, the time suddenly occurred to me! I popped on the computer, accessed KISU, and discovered that I'd missed Kendall (again, damn and blast!!). But I think I caught most of the interview with Bob.

Excellent, m'boy, excellent!! Sounding good!!

You say you'll have a recording of the interview? Maybe I could listen to it(?). Did you, maybe, get Kendall too?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Azizi
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 09:05 PM

Bob Nelson's interview was also interesting. I agree with his comment that the librarians asked some good questions.

Here's the link for the The Pacific Northwest Folklore Society that , if I remember correctly, Bob helped found and was president of at the age of sixteen(!!).

Bob, I heard you say that you were 13 years old when you first started singing folk songs (did you mean singing professionally?). Meaning, did you grow up with those songs? I still am curious why you and Kendall think that young people now in your respective communities aren't "in to" folk music like you both were. Is it because there are other protest music, or perhaps because people protest differently? And do you think that life has sped up so much that young people are impatient with long songs or they think songs are for moving to (dancing to) and not for listening to.

I don't want this to turn into yet another "What is folk music?" thread, but I'm curious to hear (read) more of your (Bob and Kendall) opinions about the question about young people and folk music -a question that you both were asked in your separate interviews.

Thanks,

Azizi

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 09:09 PM

I will, unless Bob and Kendall's object, send Don a copy of the complete thing -- both interviews back to back. Don will have to PM me an address.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Azizi
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 09:12 PM

Mike, I appreciate the fact that the interviewers researched each guest. That was clear in their questions and comments.

I also like the fact that each of the interviews I've heard -Bruce's, and Kendall's and Bob's and another gentleman who's not a Mudcatter :o) were conversational in tone. And the librarians didn't seem to be nervous.

I also like hearing examples of each guest's music.

Thank you, Mike, for helping make this happen and thank your staff for a job well done.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 10:06 PM

A million thanks, Mike!

See my PM. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: open mike
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 10:20 PM

MUDCAT TIME IS EASTERN TIME, AND DARN, I MISSED IT, IS IT ARCHIVED?

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Stewart
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 10:48 PM

Okay, for those of you that missed it, I recorded the whole program and it's now on the web site of the Pacific Northwest Folklore Society

Listen at your leisure.

Cheers, S. in Seattle

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: GUEST,KT not logged in
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 01:55 AM

Thanks for that, Stewart!

KT

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: maeve
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 05:41 AM

Thanks, Stewart. My download of your archived version of the interview shows only 74 bytes; perhaps it's not quite there yet?

maeve

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:16 AM

What do I click on once I have the main page?

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: maeve
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:23 AM

Good morning, Kendall. Look under the "NEW" heading, click on the heading about Radio Interview here

I can't get a useful result yet.

maeve

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 08:43 AM

Seems to work fine for me. Maybe you have to be in the Pacific NW?

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 08:55 AM

I get a warning that the file is corrupted and can't be opened.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 08:57 AM

Now I get it. IE didn't want to open it, but Mozilla did.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 09:00 AM

Thank you, Stewart. I missed it too.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Azizi
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 09:45 AM

BTW, on my computer that radio station wouldn't play on Safari, but did play on Internet Explorer. I don't know why that is, but I'm sure some people more knowledgeable about Internet programs would know.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 10:59 AM

Gremlins.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 11:50 AM

Good morning Azizi ... you asked some serious questions and I'll attempt some answers:

I was NOT singing professionally at 13 ... I waited until my 14th birthday, then I was invited up on stage with what we called a "Country Western" band in those days. I was horrible, but the band leader took me to one side, coached me, and had me start all over again. I've never forgotten the kindness of "Sheriff Tex."

As to why young people today aren't into the traditional ballads? ... hmmm. I think there's a LOT of reasons. The pace of life today, especially with the sensory input in their lives, steers them away from a lot of introspection, I think. And ballads do require a fair amount of sensitivity, thinking, and a study of history. As Kendall said ... we're students of history. And as I often say, if we don't know where we came from, how the heck do we know where we are?

CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Stewart
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 12:07 PM

A bit of tech info:

The link that you click on
to get the audio (under NEW)
"Radio Interview, KISU
(Idaho) with Kendall
Morse and Bob Nelson"
is a .m3u file (74 byte)
which sends a streaming .mp3 file to
whatever mp3 player you might be using
such as Windows Media Player, Winamp, etc.
If you just type in (or click) the following URL
http://pnwfolklore.org/audiofiles/IdahoRadioInterview-Nelson&Kendall.mp3
you can download the complete .mp3 file
but it's a long download - 44 Mb -
depending on the speed of your connection.

Cheers, S. in Seattle
where Bob Nelson is
"a legend in his own time"

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 12:10 PM

STEW ... you'd better be very carefull ... the FBI will get you for talking dirty on the air! bob

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Azizi
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 12:32 PM

Bob, thanks for that response. I appreciate it.

I'll leave any further comments for those ubiquitous "What is folk music" threads.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Stewart
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 12:38 PM

But BOB,
you were introduced as
"one of the legends of folk music,
singer and song writer, Bob Nelson"

and since you're still living (as last I heard)
that makes you "a legend in your own time"

Cheers, S. in Seattle
you'd better write some more songs, Bob

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 05:04 PM

Kendall tells me that Utah Phillips said that he would prefer to be known as a myth rather than a legend as legends have to turn up.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 05:44 PM

"Myth Kendall Morse" doesn't sound quite right, somehow.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 06:08 PM

I just had a chance to listen to the whole thing on the PNW Folklore Society web site.

". . . a serious study of humor." I loved that line, Kendall!

And Bob was in great form as usual!

Jeez! I don't think I've heard "Oleanna" since the lady in the red dress who accompanied herself on the accordion (didn't see accordions at hoots that often) used to regale us with it back in the 1950s!

Great interviews both!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 06:51 PM

I missed the show and am grateful that a link to it has been posted. Thank you, Stewart. I can listen in a bit to a couple of legends.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 06:59 PM

There was another part of the story of the FBI and me that I forgot to mention: I volunteered and joined the Army in 1955. I was sworn in at Fort Lawton, Washington, but first I had to sign the dreaded "loyalty oath." This was a three page, double column, listing a various organizations in Washington state. I was told to check any of them that I had had contact with. I did, going merrily down the pages checking: "Seattle Labor Council", "Committee To Overturn The Smith Act", "Committee For The Protection Of The Foreign Born", on and on. The Lt. who was supervising my exam turned white and orderd me to stay right where I was. He came back with a Captain, who came back with a Major.

The Major grilled me about relationship with each organization I had checked. I explained; "I sing for the Seattle Labor Council one night a month, because they give me all the hot dogs I can eat and five bucks!" "I sing for the "Committee To Protect The Foreign Born" every other Saturday night, because they give me five bucks and all the beer I can drink."

Three days after that, two FBI suits and ties combed my neighborhood and asked all my neighbors what kind of a guy I was. I musta' passed inspection, as two weeks later I was in the Army.

Someday I oughta' write a song ................ Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:13 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:16 PM

Uh, don't want to panic anyone, but there's a new thread entitled "Lyr Req: Poor Old Nelson is Dead".

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:20 PM

Bob, I read the song posted by Tug the Cox and may I humbly suggest you don't take anymore showers . . . . Seems the guy slip[ped on soap and broke his--ready for this?--telescope. We all know what THAT really means.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Azizi
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:21 PM

But in his interview Bob said that he has sworn that he won't leave this world until he has digitized thousands of vinyl recordings of folk music and millions of tapes of folk music.
So that thread must refer to another "poor old? Nelson.

And I'm glad about that.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: open mike
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:24 PM

hooray..thanks Stew for making this available for us to listen to at our own convenience!!

I am listening now, and recall posting some info on the community Oleanna, in a book review I posted on mudcat about Ole Bull. http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=117859&messages=8
I did not know there was a song about it...

Great to hear Kendall's stories, and Bob's, too!!

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:31 PM

Bruce ... did he die at peace or in pieces ... NEVER MIND! bob

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:32 PM

Jeez, I feel overlooked! I joined the Coast Guard in 1953 and I don't believe I had to sign any oath. I went to work for the US Fish & Wildlife service in 1962 and had to pass a background check, but again, no oath. I must have looked like establishment to them.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 08:00 PM

You recall the days ya had to take an oath to join the Musicians' Union?

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 08:26 PM

Washington State (used to be referred to—and some folks still do—as "the Soviet of Washington") was the scene of a lot of Wobbly (IWW) activity during the first few decades of the 20th century. In Centralia, WA, on 1919, the Centralia Legionnaires attacked and burned the Centralia IWW hall, setting it on fire and killing everyone they found inside. Before that, in 1916, there was the "Everett Massacre," where a group of Wobblies were met on the Everett waterfront and slaughtered (Bob currently lives in Everett).

During the late 1940s and into the 1950s, we had the Canwell Committee locally, concurrent with and sharing the values of the House Un-American Activities Committee, so people around here were constantly being investigated up the ziggy. Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger used to make regular visits in the early 1940s to sing for some of the same organizations that Bob sang for—and the term "hootenanny" in relation to a folk singers' jam session was invented in Seattle and carried back to New York by Seeger (he notes this in his "The Incompleat Folksinger").

In the early 1950s, if you bought a copy of "A Treasury of Folk Songs" edited by John and Sylvia Kolb (Bantam Books, 35¢) off your local drugstore paperback rack, somebody was liable to start surreptitiously following you.

As Bob mentioned in the interview, I also had a couple of representatives from the Fat Boys Institute knocking on my door and asking me to keep an eye out on their behalf (I figure they must have had me pegged as relatively innocuous, otherwise they wouldn't have asked me). But that's another story and too long to go into here.

Fun times!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 08:36 PM

HEY DON .... sssshhhh ... peak out your living room window just to the South ... look at at guy in the crewcut ... I just saw him going through your garbage can ... again! bob(sssshhhhh)

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 08:37 PM

You guys are in DEEP DEEP doodoo. DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 09:09 PM

Yeah, old crew cut is back. I saw him. He crawled back out of the garbage can with nothing to show for his efforts but coffee grounds in his ears, egg shells in his hair, and orange peelings in his pockets.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 10:12 PM

What a friend we had in Hoover
He was freedom's truest friend....

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: maeve
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 10:54 PM

This is a great series of interviews you've put together, Rapaire. I'm only sorry I can't access any of them. It sounds like they are very interesting. Congratulations to all who were involved!

maeve

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 12:14 AM

Most enjoyable! Thank you Rap, Kendall, Bob, Kath Ann, Anne, and thank you Stewart.

Seamus

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:00 AM

If I could figure out how to record those interviews I would send you a cd, maeve.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: maeve
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:42 AM

Thanks, Kendall. I'll hear it someday.

maeve

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 09:15 AM

The CDs, including some for interviews yet to come, were delivered to me yesterday. They'll be sent out ASAP to the Appropriate People (e.g., TSA, Homeland Security, FBI, CIA, etc.).

ALSO, they will as some point be available on the Library's website as streaming audio. Someday...soon...I hope.

Some folks were working on are Wallace Macrae, Wiley Gustafson, Jerry Pournelle, Greg Bear, and (I hope) Tom Paxton and Ursula K. Le Guin.

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Deckman
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 09:35 AM

Thanks muchly Mike. Bob

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 02:25 PM

Outrageous! Rap, do you have any idea when the interview with Jerry Pournelle will be?

Back in the late Fifties and early Sixties, he and I used to guzzle tall-and-foamies in Seattle's infamous Blue Moon Tavern, argue politics, and generally save the world. He enjoyed folk music and came to the hoots pretty often. This was before he left for California. At the time, I didn't even know he was interested in writing! Then his science fiction stories and novels started to appear, much to my amazement.

The last time I saw him was in 1985(?), when he and Larry Niven came to Seattle on a book tour and were autographing copies of Footfall at a local book store. Barbara was with me, and he introduced us to Larry Niven, then asked us to join them for dinner. He said a couple of friends would be along shortly and we'd all go to Ivar's Salmon House. It turned out the two friends were local SF writer, Mildred Downey Broxon (Too Long a Sacrifice)—and Frank Herbert, who had just return from Hollywood from trying to ride herd on the shooting script for Dune.

That was quite an evening! I've got some great stories that grew out of that evening, but that's matter for another thread. I've drifted this one too much already.

'Twould be good to hear Jerry's voice again.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Kendall and Deckman On The Air?
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 02:39 PM

Oh, yeah, and Spider Robinson.