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Gives up

bseed(charleskratz) 16 Jul 99 - 10:48 PM
catspaw49 16 Jul 99 - 09:32 PM
gargoyle 16 Jul 99 - 09:21 PM
Bill D....the old Philosopher 16 Jul 99 - 12:54 PM
Dan'l (inactive) 16 Jul 99 - 12:07 PM
Mudjack 16 Jul 99 - 10:27 AM
Night Owl 16 Jul 99 - 10:23 AM
WyoWoman 16 Jul 99 - 10:06 AM
Dan'l (inactive) 16 Jul 99 - 07:51 AM
Dan'l (inactive) 16 Jul 99 - 07:47 AM
catspaw49 16 Jul 99 - 07:34 AM
McMusic 16 Jul 99 - 01:38 AM
WyoWoman 16 Jul 99 - 01:09 AM
McMusic 16 Jul 99 - 01:07 AM
gargoyle 16 Jul 99 - 12:47 AM
WyoWoman 15 Jul 99 - 11:26 PM
alison 15 Jul 99 - 10:54 PM
WyoWoman 15 Jul 99 - 10:30 PM
Duane D. 15 Jul 99 - 09:15 PM
Banjer 15 Jul 99 - 06:41 PM
Rick Fielding 15 Jul 99 - 06:41 PM
WyoWoman 15 Jul 99 - 06:40 PM
Peter T. 15 Jul 99 - 03:48 PM
katlaughing 15 Jul 99 - 01:54 PM
catspaw49 15 Jul 99 - 12:23 PM
LEJ 15 Jul 99 - 12:20 PM
Neil Lowe 15 Jul 99 - 11:19 AM
Roger in Baltimore 15 Jul 99 - 11:16 AM
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Big Mick 15 Jul 99 - 11:00 AM
Allan C. 15 Jul 99 - 10:59 AM
Matthew B. 15 Jul 99 - 10:40 AM
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Peter T. 15 Jul 99 - 10:36 AM
annamill 15 Jul 99 - 10:25 AM
The Shambles 15 Jul 99 - 09:12 AM
Big Mick 15 Jul 99 - 09:02 AM
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Dan'l (inactive) 15 Jul 99 - 08:40 AM
Rick Fielding 15 Jul 99 - 08:34 AM
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Banjer 15 Jul 99 - 04:08 AM
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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 10:48 PM

Aw, Gargoyle--did you post without checking? Gotcha! --seed


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 09:32 PM

and neither can the Grateful Dead (except for"variations")....It's a Dylan song!

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: gargoyle
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 09:21 PM

Can't take credit for the poem...its from the Greatful Dead"s "Subteranian Homesick Blues."


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Bill D....the old Philosopher
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 12:54 PM

2 days?? I miss 2 days and all this?? Some of us have too much time on our hands..*grin*

"I Got Stoned and I Missed it"


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Dan'l (inactive)
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 12:07 PM

Mudjack:

No it's not, but the rumors are it could be going to either one of those places.

Wyowoman:

got to www.irc.com and follow the instructions.

Dan'l


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Mudjack
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 10:27 AM

DanL, I used to work in a steel mill, closed ours in 1984. Is your mill in Mexico or Japan? (grin)
Mudjack


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Night Owl
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 10:23 AM

gargoyle....love your "poem"!!


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: WyoWoman
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 10:06 AM

Ok, Ok, but just one qvestion...

How do I download IRC? (What if I accidentally download IRS? Eeeek.)

ww


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Dan'l (inactive)
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 07:51 AM

I know I started it, but we gotta quit this weepy stuff. I work in a steel mill and if I go to work smiling and talk nice to people, they'll send me to the infirmary.

Dan'l


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Dan'l (inactive)
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 07:47 AM

Wyowoman: I had trouble getting in too. If you haven't downloaded IRC, I don't think it's possible. However, if you have, you can at least get a blank one. If that's any help at all.

Dan'l


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 07:34 AM

Whyaduck? Whyanochicken?

But I repeat myself..................

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: McMusic
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 01:38 AM

Ever'buddy duck!


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: WyoWoman
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 01:09 AM

I'm warning you. I'm gonna spew...


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: McMusic
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 01:07 AM

Cain't ya'll jus' feel th' luv? Cain't ya'll jus' feel hit?


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: gargoyle
Date: 16 Jul 99 - 12:47 AM

Awwwhhhh...DAMN!!!!!

Lost one more to the mud
You've become nothin' more than another bottom feeder.

(Ya shoulda gotten out while the getting was good.)

Look out Kid!!
It's somethin' ya did
Don't know when
But ya'll do it again.


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: WyoWoman
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 11:26 PM

How do I get there? I went to Forum Search and got the thread on the chat room, but when I did the blue clicky thing, I couldn't get in... WW


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: alison
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 10:54 PM

hi,

Chat room is working well tonight.. just chatted to Rick Fielding and Duckboots, TonyB, BillD, and Katlaughing.

will be lurking there for a while if anyone else wants to join.

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: WyoWoman
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 10:30 PM

I've still never tried an actual, real-time chat room. Wouldn't know how to begin...

WW


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Duane D.
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 09:15 PM

Dan'l, Just a few thoughts. There are times on Mudcat I spend lurking among the threads, unable to find anything of interest to respond to, sometimes for weeks. Then I refresh for 365 days and look for threads of interest I missed. Sometimes I find something old that is interesting enough to revive. (I'm thinking of waiting about a year and refreshing the condom thread) There is such a wealth of information here, including all the archive threads. I recently was introduced to the Mudcat chatroom. Boy do I ever feel disadvantaged there. I'm so physically challenged when it comes to typing. I primarily type with the middle finger of my left hand and I have ten perfectly working fingers. By the time I'm able to send my one or two lines of chat, I'm already 3 or 4 thoughts behind the rest of the group. And I'm still here.


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Banjer
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 06:41 PM

Got me runnin' scared now 'cause I pert near unnerstood ala dat last post. Me an' Cletus is both perponents of de "gud inglish". we'uns take much pride in talking like Miss. Bright, our therd grad teecher dun learnt us! Makes right pleesed two, too see that I kin dab neer reed thet there French-Canajun stuff to. Dan'l glad to see ya stickin' aroun'....lotsa gud to be had here!


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 06:41 PM

OK Anna P, you asked for it! Why don't you hold your gatherings in Toronto? I feel damn left out. Sure I've got Tony Burns and Michael Miland up here, but I can see them anytime. And well, Duckboots...I see her ALL the time. I want new blood!

Dan'l. Now that you're back we can stop suckin' up to you, and treat you like Catspaw. But I would love to get into the chat room once to SEE if it really sucks. Tony Burns is coming over tonight to help us do computer stuff, so maybe he can do magic things and put us into the twentieth century.
Rick


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: WyoWoman
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 06:40 PM

Ok, enuf already. Any more of this nicey nice crap and I'm going to hurl.

WW


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Peter T.
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 03:48 PM

Tabernac, tell you what, dat we Canadyiens dink quand we read dis stuff from below de longest and most convenient border for smuggling in de world, we dink, Freres Reg et moi, Black Jack Shellac, dat you don't comprehend de first ding about de 'airshirt. Was dat great Canadyien 'iawatha, eh? Premierement, catch de bear. Two, turn de bear inzide out, honhon. Trois, de fur side outside now in de inside, de inside now in de outside, and you O.K. for de 'ole winter, eh? Honhonhon. Get de pickup size of de beer and de turdz for de 'ockey, and you lookin' fine, O.K, from 'ere.
Your Nordern pal, Black Jack Shellac.


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 01:54 PM

LMAOWROTF!!!!! Oh, 'Spaw! Don't you ever lose holt o'them boyz!

Gawds & Gawddess! Aren't we a passionate lot?!! I love it, somebody says they are leaving, don't fit in, what have you and WE POST ALMOST 75 MESSAGES TELLING THEM ABOUT US, THE M'CAT AND WHY THEY SHOULD GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY!

Whenever I write a new oped piece and get discouraged because of the apprarent apathy of the world, I just visit the "threads" and get my hope, spirit, and soul renewed, refreshed, and my head screwed on right, again!

Dan'l: welcome back. Looks like we'll get off on the right foot, now. BTW: in case Cletus has you scratching your head, if you'll read some of those posts about Castpaw49 (which he isn't!), you'll find that he is NOT an animal abuser. One of our dear members fired a ceramic possum ocarina for him and that is the only possum's arse he blows on, that we know, to date!**Big Grin**

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 12:23 PM

Catspaw's in a hammerin' away on that dulcimer so me an' Paw reckons howz he won't notice that we is usin' his puter. This here thread looked like somethin' we know about. See, sometimes it's a good thang ta give up. Like a while back when them fellers took me ta that there Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed. I jez cudn't give up a watchin' that damn Hamsterdance thang. And then Ol' Paw sez that when he and the Reg boys were whizzin' in their boots on that railroad track jez ta see ifn there was instructions on the heels, why hell, they dang near got rundown by that freight cause they wudn't give up. So Dan'l we kinda' know the south end of the mule an we got us some preciation fer it.

But now we jes gotta' say how much we wanna thank the Big RiB. See, Paw an me dint know jacksquat bout no hairyshirts and now we do. We wuz a readin away on this here thread an figgered that yall talkin bout sumpin liken the Reg boys. Them ol boys kinda' look fully clothed when they're nekkid an we jez figgered it was some kinda Canajun thing seeuns as how it's so cold up there an all. But RiB gone an give us a good splainin all bout it an now we got it covered sorta like. Me an Paw are always wantin ta git more edjucated like an taint nobody got more a liken fer the proper use of English than usn's. Now some uv the folks roun here spellz thangs in sum mitey kwaire ways but Paw sez its OK cuz they're furriners from Ostraylya an England an the like an they aint got sech a good grip on speekin as we do.

Paw sez too that a real hairyshirt mite be a fine idee so we're gonna start savin' up hair from Bubba's Barberin shop an see ifn we can figger out sum way as ta git it all stuck up togather inna a shirt fore winter comes. Catspaw's gotta lotta hair but we doan reckon as how he'll part with it for a shirt. Say, ifn enny of y'all are a gittin a barberin mebbe you cud send along the clippins.

Seems as how catspaw quit hammerin an now I hear him blowin up that possum's ass so he mite be comin in here any time an ifn he finds us puterin he'll be madder than that time Buford fell in the cesspool an came here ta clean up.

CLETUS


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: LEJ
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 12:20 PM

Well, this really worked out well. I get all offended and everything and announce that I'm leaving, and then the guy that STARTED it all comes back!

And yes, Rick, most all Radio Shack items are made by Sony (if you like Sony). If you don't like Sony, its Pioneer.

On a more serious note...Dan, you can see the phoaks here don't make it easy to leave the party, unless you slip out the back door. Welcome back.

LEJ


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Neil Lowe
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 11:19 AM

I can see why he changed his mind. How could anyone leave, after all these sentiments have been expressed, thread creep and all? I wouldn't be able to, either, even if I realized that I was completely at odds with every musical, social, moral, ethical, and political interest and philosophical notion expressed since the forum's inception.


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 11:16 AM

Welcome back, Dan'l,

It seems you felt sort of "left out." I can certainly understand the feeling. The more I read this site, the more I wanted to be a part. So I began to "imitate" those Mudcatter's he had an approach I liked. I would do what they did when I could. I learned some HTML so I could create active links and add some pizzazz to my posts.

I have a Mudcat category on my bookmarks of places to go to look up lyrics. I actively use OLGA.net and Roughstock.com (COWPIE) just to help out others on the Mudcat, seldom for my own requests.

I participated in "opinion" (BS?) threads where I learned to be less sarcastic with newcomers who didn't follow "the rules". I have a pretty big ego, so I saw "rules" where there weren't rules, and I helped to enforce them.

I became a better Mudcatter in the process and the Mudcat became better because I participated (I don't think that's ego, it's true for all who post).

So just jump on in. If you don't like the chat room, don't go there. I tried it for a while and was not enthused by it. Now my computer won't let me go there and since that's no big deal, I haven't pursued it further. Oh, sometimes I wonder about it when others refer to it, but that's a much in this world about which I wonder and will never know.

Again, Dan'l, welcome. You helped us to look at ourselves and that is always worthwhile (as long as we don't get engrossed in the subject).

Big RiB aka Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 11:05 AM

Hair Shirt: A coarse haircloth garment worn next to the skin by religious ascetics to mortify the flesh.

Hair Cloth: A wiry fabirc having usually a cotton or linen warp with a horsehair filler, used for upholstering and for stiffening and interlining garments.

Ascetic: A person who renounces the comforts of society and leads a life of austere self-discipline, especially as an act of religious devotion.

Mortify: 1. To cause to experience shame, humiliation ,or wounded pride; humiliate. 2. To discipline (one's body and appetities) by self-denial and austerity.

Definitions courtesy of The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language.

For many on the Mudcat, English is a second language, so I may have provided more information than the English speakers need.

To "wear a hair shirt" is an expression meaning one is abject and apologetic about some behavior one has committed. (Definition courtesy of Big RiB).

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Big Mick
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 11:00 AM

Dan'l, trying to hug a big Mick like me is physically impossible, and dangerous to one of your gender. Now the FAIR ALISON is an entirely different kettle of fish. LOL

Mick


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Allan C.
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 10:59 AM

Glad to see you here again. Well, relieved, actually. I was beginning to have flashbacks to an ex-wife whose accusing voice was saying, "You KNOW what you did!" when, of course, I really didn't. (Or at least I didn't know which list of wrongs she was referring to!)


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Matthew B.
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 10:40 AM

Awww. This is so sweet. I'm getting all gushy.


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: alison
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 10:40 AM

Nice to see you back Dan'l.... Now in the words of the teletubbies...... Big Hug........

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Peter T.
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 10:36 AM

I am not sure if I can cope with this new warm sensitive fuzzy Mudcat phase (known as Wuzzum for short). Too much wuzzums and I will be history. There! I've said it, and I'm glad!! (Bursts into tears)
yours (ah, but for how much longer, he said tantalizingly?), Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: annamill
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 10:25 AM

Dan'l, I'm glad you rethunk your decision.

Catspaw, I love you. I hope your wonderful lady doesn't mind.

Rick, you didn't mention me ;-(

**BG**

Love, annap


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 09:12 AM

The 'hair shirt' thing.

Every now and then we receive a critism and we ALL ponder what it was that we did to upset someone. We are a sesitive lot really.

Welcome back. I feel the same about the 'chat', if that helps any.?


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Big Mick
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 09:02 AM

Dan'l,

A fella gets busy (as long time 'Catters know happens to me in my profession) and look what I missed. Let me say two things.

First, in my role as official greeter and keeper of the fertility rites, let me say that I am glad you are here. This really is a most amazing place, with an eclectic collection of some of the most amazing misfits (myself included) found on this planet. Give it time and you will come to know the personality's and talents. Give yerself a chance and you will come to have genuine affection for us, as we will for you.

There are obligations that you have when you become a part of our town. The most important one is to contribute. We are a community of thinkers and helpers. Our threads are about music, the events that spawn our music, what makes us perform it and all the ancillary BS that attaches itself to it. We live when we debate, share, joke, etc. In order to be part of the body, you must help it breath. Please do, we are enriched by your presence.

Finally about your leaving. Had you left I would have said goodbye, good luck and I hope you do better in the next place. And I would have thought that you just didn't give it a chance or were offended by the free exchanges that happen here. And I would have felt it was your loss. I am elated that you reconsidered. We are the better for it.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: bbc
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 09:00 AM

Welcome home, honey. You'll find the place in the group that fits for you, if you want to!

best,

bbc (Barbara in NY)


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Dan'l (inactive)
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 08:40 AM

Well...So I guess this isn't a private club? However, I think that, Yes it takes guts to post here. I hope this thread got though to all the newbies and not just me. I won't do this again EVER! AND the chatroom DOES SUCK. I was and still am drawn in by the discussions here, and that's why I won't leave, that and 57 people, who promptly embarrassed the shit right out of me. I thank you for your responses. And for caring. There's so much music in theses archives that I've forgotten about. It's a good site, and now it's even better.

But what is this shirt, hair thing??

Dan


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 08:34 AM

Ok, I'm going to jump into some deep water here, but why not? There might be some Catters who see the last few posts as being snotty, and mean spirited, cause at face value you can't see the smiles. Just a few though, and if they've been here for a while they know darn well we're kidding - but they DON'T LIKE that kind of kidding! Believe me, after a lifetime of having my sense of humour questioned, I understand. But I can't help it. Every tribe must have it's wise-acres. We just seem to have more of our share, and during those times that we converge it must seem like an avalanche of quips to a few folks. But have patience, we really are good neighbours, and none of us owns a pit-bull (I hope).
Banjer. I'll try to get your name in here, when you say something I disagree with!
Lej. I can't find the damn bill! I'll bet you haven't heard that one before. By the way, someone supposedly in the know said that a lot of Radio Shack's cassettes are manufactured by Sony. Is this possible?
Rick


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Night Owl
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 04:30 AM

Oh oh...I'm in trouble here, Joe. That last post made sense to me. (Going back to bed!)


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 04:11 AM

Well, Banjer, LEJ claims to be Radio Shack in Colorado. I dunno 'bout that. I tried to find the store and drop in on him, but I think I blinked and passed it by. Of course, I didn't find out until I got back home that I was looking in the wrong town.... I went through the right town, but wasn't looking then.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Banjer
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 04:08 AM

If anyone feels slighted to the point of leaving because they didn't get mentioned in that last post get over to LEJ's place and we'll send a bus.


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Banjer
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 04:05 AM

Oh my, if I had any good sense, (slim chance), I would/should/could be offended that my name hasn't come up in this thread once!! Even in Rick's rambling ruminations a Radio Shack caller ID system 200 gets mentioned and I don't. It hard being upstaged by a Radio Shack caller ID system 200,lemme tell ya.
LEEJ, what do you mean by one area of accute sensitivity? Is that like having one nerve and somebody dun got on it? I think you ought to check, I think YOUR batteries are in backward, if you have any at all that is. Sounds like you are about ready to leave this place. Well, go stand by your front door and I'm sure our buddy Dan'l will pick ya up on his way outta here.


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 03:14 AM

Yup, only once: beginning last June and continuing into the unforseeable future. --seed


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 02:53 AM

And here To Daniel


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 02:51 AM

There is more on the subject here It Takes Guts Etc;


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 12:29 AM

You'll get one free Joe. I don't want you investigatin' me.


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 12:29 AM

Rick and Catspaw... well, you've finally done it, you sumbitches, you've hit on my one area of accute sensitivity.Well, listen up! Don't come complaining to me unless you've got your invoice AND all the original packaging, ya bastards. And LOOK-ya put the goddam batteries in BACKWARDS!! Well, that's it... that rips it. I'm outta here. You won't have LEJ to kick around anymore!! This is my last post!! I'm so damned ANGRY. If you want me, I'll be hangin around at the Classic Rock Chatroom, where people are nice,and friendly, and don't spend all their time complaining about their damned CALLER IDs!!!


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Subject: RE: Gives up
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Jul 99 - 12:05 AM

Thanks for that sincere and heartfelt apology Rick. Perhaps this will help to improve our distrustful and antagonistic relationship.

I also want to thank you for your concerns about my age and health. Kat certainly got the juices flowing.......Then I had a mental image of YOU bending over backwards and things returned to normal.

catspaw
P.S.

You actually had a piece of Radio Shack stuff that lasted 3 weeks? Damn, I thought 9 days was the limit.


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