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WFDU - Ron Olesko 26 Aug 09 - 05:58 PM
GUEST,wordy 26 Aug 09 - 07:23 PM
GUEST,Matt_R 26 Aug 09 - 08:08 PM
Little Hawk 26 Aug 09 - 08:38 PM
GUEST,Gerry 26 Aug 09 - 10:13 PM
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Little Hawk 27 Aug 09 - 01:15 AM
Ernest 27 Aug 09 - 02:05 AM
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bobad 27 Aug 09 - 07:16 AM
Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) 27 Aug 09 - 10:12 AM
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Big Tim 27 Aug 09 - 03:29 PM
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Smedley 28 Aug 09 - 08:21 AM
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Subject: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 05:58 PM

The rumors are true. Bob Dylan is releasing a Christmas CD. Not just any Christmas CD, but a Christmas CD that features Dylan singing holiday favorites such as "Here Comes Santa Claus" and "Winter Wonderland"!!!!

Most important - it is for a good charity and will provide meals for at least 1.4 million people this holiday!!

Here is the official press release:

Bob Dylan will release a brand new album of holiday songs, Christmas In The Heart, on Tuesday, October 13, it was announced today by Columbia Records. All of the artist's U.S. royalties from sales of these recordings will be donated to Feeding America, guaranteeing that more than four million meals will be provided to more than 1.4 million people in need in this country during this year's holiday season. Bob Dylan is also donating all of his future U.S. royalties from this album to Feeding America in perpetuity.

Additionally, the artist is partnering with two international charities to provide meals during the holidays for millions in need in the United Kingdom and the developing world, and will be donating all of his future international royalties from Christmas In The Heart to those organizations in perpetuity. Details regarding the international partnerships will be announced next week.

"When we reached out to Bob Dylan about becoming involved with our organization, we could never have anticipated that he would so generously donate all royalties from his forthcoming album to our cause," said Vicki Escarra, president and CEO of Feeding America. "This major initiative from such a world renowned artist and cultural icon will directly benefit so many people and have a major impact on spreading awareness of the epidemic of hunger in this country and around the world."

Bob Dylan commented, "It's a tragedy that more than 35 million people in this country alone -- 12 million of those children – often go to bed hungry and wake up each morning unsure of where their next meal is coming from. I join the good people of Feeding America in the hope that our efforts can bring some food security to people in need during this holiday season."

Christmas In The Heart will be the 47th album from Bob Dylan, and follows his worldwide chart-topping Together Through Life, released earlier this year. Songs performed by Dylan on this new album include, "Here Comes Santa Claus," "Winter Wonderland," "Little Drummer Boy" and "Must Be Santa."

Feeding America provides low-income individuals and families with the fuel to survive and even thrive. As the nation's largest domestic hunger-relief charity, our network members supply food to more than 25 million Americans each year, including 9 million children and 3 million seniors. Serving the entire United States, more than 200 member food banks supports 63,000 agencies that address hunger in all of its forms. For more information how you can fight hunger in your community and across the country, visit feedingamerica.org.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: GUEST,wordy
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 07:23 PM

Oh dear, oh dear. Love the cause but surely..there must be another way?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 08:08 PM

I HAVE to get this album!


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 08:38 PM

Ummm...well, gosh! This I would not have expected at all, but I do appreciate Bob's efforts and his sentiments.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 10:13 PM

For Halloween buy her a trumpet
And for Christmas give her big drums (or this CD, I suppose).


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Amergin
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 10:20 PM

Oh god....great a raspy mumbling barely in tune voice singing christmas songs....


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Beer
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 10:57 PM

I love Dylan but holy fuck. will he sing Silent Night? Dylan to me is the greatest song writer of our time. Well excluding the copied numbers and of course John Prine is right there as well as a song writer. But singing?? Please Bob, don't do this. If you do leave out all traditional tunes and come up with your own.
Must get out there and buy it as soon as it is released.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Barry Finn
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 01:01 AM

I'd rather eat nails

Barry


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 01:15 AM

That can be arranged, Barry. Come to the Orillia Fall Fair in September. We have some really weird competitive events there, and I can register you in advance.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Ernest
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 02:05 AM

And the next year his Bobness will release an album of duets with William Shatner covering the greatest hits of Barry Manilow....

...proceeds of this album will be used to feed the overweight, according to Mr. Shatner, honorary CEO for Dieting America, Inc.

;0)
Ernest


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: GUEST,InOBU Lorcan Otway
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 06:48 AM

I hope he gets arrested for it. Thank God we live in a police state! ONLY KIDDING GUYS!!! Don't flame me... =)


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: GUEST,Mike of Hessle
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 07:09 AM

I wonder what the CD Cover will be like - Will Bob be dressed as Father Christmas (or the Christmas Fairy)!!!!!

Sorry I had to get that one in.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 07:16 AM

Knowing Bob, it will be tastefully done and he will surprise us as he often does.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 10:12 AM

The critics who jump all over Dylan, no matter what he does, are always with us, well, you know what? Look at what you've accomplished in YOUR musical life(if you have one)and then have a really close look at what Dylan's accomplished, that chasm is very wide indeed.
As the old saying goes, those that can do, those that can't, criticize or teach, whichever comes first.

Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms)


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Bill H //\\
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 03:20 PM

Beer: John Prine has Christmas album out (some years back)---touching songs---why, even one about Christmas in prison and what would be appropriate gifts. Quite funny!.


Bill Hahn


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Big Tim
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 03:29 PM

It's a surprise but, for me at least, a very pleasant one. I have all his studio albums and certainly not gonna stop buying them now. btw, I love 'Self Portrait'!


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 06:04 AM

It is always surprising to see the heroes of your youth sliding off their pedestal, no matter how noble the cause. This feels like Sir Larry Olivier doing pantomime for charity. He could have done so many other things. Why this?

When I have no more to say, may the Lord grant me the wisdom to just shut the f@@k up.

Barry, save me some nails, please.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Smedley
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 08:21 AM

Is the promised (or threatened) 'Must Be Santa' the same somg as the one performed so excruciatingly in the early 1960s by Britain's own & highly unloveable Tommy Steele???? If so, brace yourself......


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 10:51 AM

"It is always surprising to see the heroes of your youth sliding off their pedestal, no matter how noble the cause. "

Just remember, we are at fault for placing them on pedestals. We are also at fault when we make a judgement before hearing the final product. Dylan is probably not targeting this at folks like us, nor should he be expected to.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: folktheatre
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 11:05 AM

Well it's got a long way to go to beat Dolly Parton's effort!


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 11:15 AM

I agree with WFDU - Ron Olesko.
Who put the likes of Bob Dylan etc on the pedestals in the first place? I was you and I. Then there are complaints till the cows come home when the artist(s) in question don't meet with the expectations put upon them. Dylan never did meet with your expectations, nor mine, nor anyones, so..you know what? get over it and let Dylan do what Dylan does.
as poster, bobad (27 Aug 09 - 07:16 AM) says "Knowing Bob, it will be tastefully done and he will surprise us as he often does."
and as I said (27 Aug 09 - 10:12 AM) "The critics who jump all over Dylan, no matter what he does, are always with us."

Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms)
uppity "Indian" chick


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 11:26 AM

"They've got a lotta nerve..."


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Fortunato
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 11:38 AM

I just wish he'd invited me to play on it.

Now, I don't need the money, you understand, but the people I owe, they need the money!

I also wish I'd written Grandmaw Got Run Over by a Reindeer...I can hear Bob singing that, can't you?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 11:51 AM

if you haven't already, you might want to search out and read Colin Irwin's Legendary Sessions: Bob Dylan: Highway 61 Revisited (2007) It does illustrate perfectly, for me, just how much Dylan does not live up to anyone's expectations (except his own, and even then he doesn't always.

Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms)
uppity "Indian" chick


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 11:52 AM

Of course you're right, Ron. My fault for putting him on a pedestal when I was 15. But hey, I didn't know better, and neither he nor the music media of the day discouraged me. Quite the opposite. Whatever, the fact remains that for many years he represented something of what I wanted to be like. So it is natural for me to feel the loss - no matter whose fault it is. I don't blame him, I just disagree with him.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 04:16 PM

"the fact remains that for many years he represented something of what I wanted to be like"

George, my guess is that you did live up to the representation and kept your ideals - something that Dylan never could do.

That is the beauty of a great artist - they create something that inspires. It does not have represent themselves but should represent a message that the artist tries to create.

Contrary to Marshall McCluen, the medium is NOT the message - the message is the message!


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Peace
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 06:13 PM

If Dylan's hand is in it, it will be a work of genius.

Go get 'em, Bobby.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: BK Lick
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 03:42 AM

Boy, I sure do agree with what Peace said!
Have a listen to Dylan's Theme Time Radio Hour for Christmas, 2006:
annotated track list
zipped archive of hour 1
zipped archive of hour 2


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 07:04 AM

BK, your download sites don't dig hotlinking.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Fortunato
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 07:45 AM

Peace has it right. It'll likely be a great album.

I also agree with Ron, Dylan has often inspired me and, hell, I like Christmas songs.

I sing Frosty every year and my family tolerates me...

cheers,
chance


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Big Tim
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 08:10 AM

Dylan put himself on the 'pedestal', nobody else, by the greatness of his songwriting and his unique voice ('field hand singing at dawn' or something like that). And he hasn't fallen off it (yet) as his last two albums have gone to number 1 all around the world, an incredible achievement for a man of his age and career length.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 08:36 AM

Surprising nobody has yet mentioned Dylan is to do the voice of a sat nav system. Read here


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 09:37 AM

If you read the story, and if you've listened to his radio show, it appears obvious to me that Dylan was just making a joke about the GPS. He was setting up for a punchline, which he often does. It looks like another case of people taking everything too seriously.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 03:53 PM

Heck, I'll buy it just to help feed some people. I always put something in the Salvation Army kettles too.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: BK Lick
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 05:12 PM

Bodad, thanks for the heads up -- I should have known better.

Link to the downloads from the Theme Time Radio Hour Archive -- scroll down to
Season 1: 34: Christmas & New Year's 1 2 (Dec 20, 2006, 2hrs
and follow the download links there.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 01:49 PM

Heard excerpts from a few cuts on the radio this AM......er....um...well, I can say, in all honesty, that it is different.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 03:45 PM

He's helping to feed the hungry in two countries.
Get over yourselves, guys.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 05:05 PM

Chicago Sun Times review:

Bob Dylan, "Christmas in the Heart" (Columbia) [NO STARS]
By Jim DeRogatis on October 9, 2009 4:10 PM | Permalink | Comments (37) | TrackBacks (0)


Though it may seem like the most unlikely endeavor, longtime fans of rock's most famous bard must applaud the notion of Robert Allen Zimmerman making a Christmas album--that is, at least if you appreciate the wickedly sarcastic sense of humor and love of surrealism that have always been a strain in Bob Dylan's work.

This is, after all, the man whose autobiography lauds old-time wrestler Gorgeous George and ukulele-strumming Tiny Tim as two of his biggest inspirations, and who loves to mess with our notion of his status as the Voice of a Generation with the occasional mind-boggling detour like making a Victoria's Secret commercial.

Conceptually, then, "Christmas in the Heart" is a success, simply because it's so unexpected and downright bizarre. You might think that as he enters the sixth decade of his career, with 34 studio albums and countless live recordings to his credit, Dylan couldn't come up with anything to surprise us anymore. Well, he just found something.

Unfortunately, when it comes to the music, the album is a complete failure.

From the faux-Currier and Ives cover art to the annoyingly precious arrangements, and from the beyond-predictable choice of tired holiday chestnuts to the chorus of backing vocalists who sound as if they could be the surviving members of the King Family, Dylan plays things beyond straight, adhering to the syrupy, schlocky pop sounds of the pre-rock era that also provided the worst moments on his recent albums.

Never a conventionally good singer, of late, Dylan's once powerful croak has become more of a raspy wheeze. But his delivery is the real problem.

When the star stumbles through "I'll Be Home for Christmas," he sounds like the family's disinherited black sheep embarrassment, delivering the sentiment as a threat rather than a promise. In "Winter Wonderland," when that treacly chorus coos, "We'll have lots of fun with Mr. Snowman," he sounds like a psychotic as he answers, "Until the other kids all knock him down!" And by the time he starts slaughtering the familiar Latin refrain of "Adeste fideles"--"Venite adoremus Dominum" becomes, no kidding, "Benito adore-a-moose domino!"--you don't know whether to wince or guffaw.

If the proceeds of this album weren't being donated to charities dedicated to easing world hunger, you might think it was all a big put-on. Regardless, fans would be well advised to make a donation of their own and spare themselves this holiday torture.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 05:27 PM

I've now heard a bit, so I've taken it off my Amazon wish list. I'll make a donation direct, and play "Bah Humbug"


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: meself
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 05:52 PM

Well, I suppose there's something wrong with me - not the first time that thought has crossed my mind, I'm afraid - but I'm looking forward to hearing this album. Well, some of it, anyway. And if I hear a bit and don't like it - so what? I'll stop listening to it. That's how it's always been with me and Bob ....


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Dead Horse
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 06:04 PM

Snowing in the Wind?
Just Like a Snowman?
I Shall Be Refreezed?
Leopard Skin Paper Hat?
Masters of Charades?
Turkey Chase?
All Along the Big Issue?

I will get me coat...........................


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Slag
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 06:39 PM

Positively 4th Street! Let it be there, just one time!

I think Woody would have approved. I know I do.

More than "revolution", Dylan has always showed a strong social side in many of his works. I admire someone who can rise above his own image and hype and put his talent and his money where is heart is. Good for Dylan. I will buy the album.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Ron Davies
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 12:05 AM

So now there are at least two reviews of this, both saying the same thing about the same song--second one in the free paper on the Metro today: " 'I'll Be Home For Christmas'" "sounds like a reason to bolt your doors."   Even allowing for the usual jaded attitude of reviewers, sounds like there might be something to that. And " Here Comes Santa Claus" "making Yuletide glee feel more like lunacy".

"Yet over the course of 15 songs, Dylan's huffing and puffing becomes familiar, almost meditative---like a snowblower howling away on a December afternoon."   One thing--the reviewer sure had fun writing this one.

Sure makes me curious to hear some of this creation--once.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 12:12 AM

Reviewers love something they can really tear into...! (grin) It's fun writing scathing reviews, so they should have a riot with Bob's new Christmas album.

Myself, I never buy Christmas albums. I don't care who they're by. I do remember, though, we had a copy of the Joan Baez Christmas album a long time ago, and it was pretty good.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Ron Davies
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 12:23 AM

Hey LH--that reviewer also said: this CD "launches Dylan into the rarified atmosphere of pop icons who've contributed truly memorable songs to our communal Christmas jukebox..."

And you're missing some wonderful music by not buying Christmas CD's--though now you can cherry-pick and make your own.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: banjoman
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 05:41 AM

I have been a Dylan Fan since the 60's and have most of his recordings. I heard a couple of extracts from this one on Radio 4, and although I applaud any efforts to raise money for charity, I was a bit taken aback and initially thought it was a joke as the tracks were blended in with tracks of The Kings Singers to show the comparison. I don't think I will be buying this one as I think it is a mockery of what I always thought he represented. However, I am always willing to have another listen and be proved wrong. Most of his work needs a second listen to appreciate.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 07:07 AM

Sounded fine to me on Radio4, especially in contrast to the plum-in-mouth King's College e-n-u-n-c-i-a-t-i-o-n which drives me mad. Give me sardonic mumbling any day.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Ron Davies
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 07:24 AM

"...plum in mouth.."    Different strokes...    I like a lot of Kings Singers renditions. Though admittedly "Here Comes Santa Claus" or "Jingle Bells" would not be the best choices for repertoire for them--if they've ever recorded these. (Though a self-parody rendition of these could be a hit.) I'd far rather hear their version of "I'll Be Home For Christmas" however--which they could do well, I'm sure-- based on reports of Dylan's performance.   Dylan would fit well on a CD also including the Chipmunks.   The Chipmunks however have both humor and charm.

As others have suggested, it sounds like the best approach is just to give to charity what you might have been tempted to spend on this album.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 10:57 AM

I thought they played the KIngs College Chapel carol service stuff. I wasn't meaning to have a pop at the King's Singers, I was referring to the style of the college choir.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Christmas CD !!!!!
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 11:05 AM

The UK charity is "Crisis" and you can make gift aid donations on their web-site.


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