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Lyr Req: The Journey tae Fyvie (Bill Smith) DigiTrad: BONNIE LASS OF FENARIO Notes for Bonnie Lass of Fyvio/Peggy of Darby/Dandy Related threads: Lyr Req: Songs about Beeching's Cuts (24) (origins) Where's Fennario? (126) (origins) Origin: Fyvio / Fenario / The Bonnie Lass of Fyvie (20) Pretty Peggy-O (definitive recording) (8) (origins) Origins: Fanario (?) (3) happy? - Oct 29 (Fyvie) (4) as we march down to fenario (21) (closed) Lyr Req: Peggy-O & Rosalie McFall (Grateful Dead) (2) (closed) |
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Subject: Lyr Req: Variation on Bonnie Lass o'Fyvie From: Catflap Date: 03 Dec 09 - 10:59 AM Very many years ago (just after Dr Beeching had closed down what seemed like avery railway in Britain) in a folk club in Glasgow I heard a variation on the Bonnie Lass o' Fyvie (a.k.a. "The Captain's name was Ned" ak.a. There once was a troop of Irish Dragoons"). All I can now remember is After forty five was over and done Geordie said to Wade Man Alive e o Awa' wi' pick and spade And make for me a road Runnin all the way doon frae Fyvie o Has any one any ideas at all?? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variation on Bonnie Lass o'Fyvie From: GUEST,Jack Campin Date: 03 Dec 09 - 12:05 PM For what it's worth, Wade never built a road anywhere near Fyvie. That's no reason for not singing about one, of course. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variation on Bonnie Lass o'Fyvie From: BobKnight Date: 03 Dec 09 - 03:24 PM Wade also built most of his roads BEFORE the '45, so the timeline is wrong too. You sure you want to find out more about a song that's so badly "flawed?" |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variation on Bonnie Lass o'Fyvie From: BobKnight Date: 03 Dec 09 - 03:29 PM Right - just checked - Wade left the highlands in 1740 and passed on his command to Major Willian Caulfield. Who? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variation on Bonnie Lass o'Fyvie From: Jim McLean Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:18 PM The metre is wrong, the rhyme is wrong, it's historically inaccurate so I'd forget it, Catflap. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variation on Bonnie Lass o'Fyvie From: Jim Carroll Date: 04 Dec 09 - 03:12 AM Got a copy of it in an old Scots folk magazine somewhere - will look it out later. From memory - 1st verse; There were a troop of Irish(?) Dragoons, Come marchin' intae Fyvie O And the reason that they marched all he way frae Marble Arch There were no railways runnin' intae Fyvie O. Jim Carroll |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE JOURNEY TAE FYVIE (Bill Smith) From: Jim Carroll Date: 04 Dec 09 - 04:23 AM Gotcha! From Scottish Folk Notes Vol 1 no 2 (no date, but contains a review of 101 Scottish Songs, which was published in 1962.) Jim Carroll ^^ THE JOURNEY TAE FYVIE By Bill Smith of Falkirk, Tune – obvious. There was a troop o' Irish Dragoons Cam' marchin' up tae Fyvie-o, An' the reason that they marched A' the way frae Marble Arch: There was nae railway runnin' up tae Fyvie-o. Efter the Forty-Five was ower an' done, Geordie said tae Wade, "Man alivie-o! Grab yersel' a pick and spade, Don't come back till you have made Me a road runnin' a' the way tae Fyvie-o." So Wade he grab'bed his shovel and he made the king a road Up frae the Borders tae Fyvie-o. He made the king a road An' it wasna verra broad, But it speeded the Journey up tae Fyvie-o. Ye've a' heard o' Watt, the celebrated Scot, Brewin' up some coffee efter bingein'-o As he watched the kettle steam, Jimmy Watt began tae dream, An' inventit the verra first steam engine-o. Soon efter came the train, product o' a Scottish brain, Then railway lines ran tae Fyvie-o, There was mony an English chiel Made his fortune on the deal When they buildit the railways up tae Fyvie-o. It is different today, for the railways dinna pay, So they brought in Doctor Beeching-o. He came straight from I.C.I. With his pukka Old School Tie You should jist hear the nonsense he is preachin'-o. He telt Uncle Mac, did this economic quack, "Take all the railways up from Fyvie-o. Take the railways all away And the bloody things will pay, And the nation's economy will thrive-y-o. So now, Doctor Dick, don't you play this dirty trick, If ye should value your lifie-o, Or you'll end up on your back, Fastened tae the railway track, In the path o' the last train up tae Fyvie-o. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variation on Bonnie Lass o'Fyvie From: Jim McLean Date: 04 Dec 09 - 04:54 AM Catflap, I take back my what I said as it was based on the verse you gave as an example. The whole song as produced by Jim Carroll I think was valid for the time it was written. It's a bit chauvinistic but I have written worse doggerel myself! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Journey tae Fyvie (Bill Smith) From: Catflap Date: 11 Dec 09 - 12:28 PM Thanks for all the help, and yes I am aware that Wade built his roads before 45 but I also assumed a large degree of poetic licence was involved. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Journey tae Fyvie (Bill Smith) From: Murray MacLeod Date: 12 Mar 10 - 04:38 PM Is the Bill Smith who wrote this masterpiece the same Bill Smith who was the founder member and mastermind behind the Corrie Folk Trio and Paddie Bell ? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Journey tae Fyvie (Bill Smith) From: Richard Mellish Date: 13 Mar 10 - 04:10 PM I have somewhere an old recording of something like this, but the one phrase from it that I have in my head is "They're closing down the railway up to Fyvie-o", which isn't in the version as transcribed above by Jim. I may get around to digging it out some time, but I don't have time just now. Richard |
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