Yorkshire Garland new songs!

Subject: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: GUEST,padgett on lap top
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 06:01 AM

The year long work of collating, collecting and notating "newer" Yorkshire songs has been done and is accessible at www.Yorkshirefolksong.net or just google Yorkshire Garland

Hope you enjoy the site, and there are now a further 40 songs there and another 13 just need tweeking

Thanks to mudcat and all contributors for their effort and the YG team who have devoted many hours vto this project

Ray Padgett ~ Barnsley, South Yorkshire for YG team

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: Folkiedave
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 06:08 AM

Well done to all.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: GUEST,Banjima
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 06:15 AM

Here's a link. Looking and sounding good!

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 06:20 AM

Isn't it just? A cracking site.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 07:51 AM

Hi Ray,
Just been exploring the site, its looking great.
Nice to hear your voice on the Barnsley Anthem and others.
Its like getting an early Christmas present which was unexpected and becomes greatly valued.
I will work my way through it and am sure have many pleasurable experiences.
Have a good Christmas and New Year

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: peregrina
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 10:44 AM

refresh: lots of treasures...

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: nutty
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 11:37 AM

Ray - with reference to FOURPENCE A DAY, I may be being pedantic but I fail to see how this can be classified a Yorkshire song.

To my knowledge, Middleton - in- Teesdale has never been in Yorkshire.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 08:03 PM

Hazel
Just a little in Ray's defence regarding Middleton in Teesdale. Historically the River Tees was the Northern boundary of Yorkshire in the area of Middleton in Teesdale. I think that we in Yorkshire can claim a little of Middleton even though it is to the North of the river, it is very close. Probably some of the lead extracted could have come from the south of the river and could be described as "Yorkshire lead". Must admit all the mines do seem to be to the north of the river, the nearest being Snaisgill.
It is also very likely that some of the miners working there lived in Yorkshire.
Boundaries have been altered regularly and it is possible that Middleton was once in Yorkshire, I have, however found no proof of this, but will continue my efforts to claim Middleton in Teesdale as ours.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: scowie
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 04:38 AM

Hazel, You have my sympathies, but previously they stole a song from us in Lancashire. It was "The Cornstalk" it begins "There is a pub in Manchester" It's begining to look like all my father told me about them there Tykes is true!
Seriously, folks it's a great site making the material we know and love accesible to all, I wish it great success. Right Raymond ----that's another pint you owe me!
See you in the New Year, and start saving up.
Cheers Scowie.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: ced2
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 06:27 AM

ref nutty's comments. Dr Arthur Raistrick explained the relationship between lead mining and farming in times gone by. Miners were, by and large, farmers who had only got small holdings and to make a living they had to persue both jobs. So it can not be said with any certainty that the only people who mined lead came from towns on the north bank of the Tees(ie Durham). There would, in all likelyhood, have been miners from the farmsteads on the south bank of the Tees, ie from Yorkshire. Also a reading of the journals of the Northern Mines Research Society show existance of mines in tributary valleys on the south side, ie in Yorkshire. So whilst there is every likelyhood of the majority connection being Durham there is also a good probability of a Yorkshire connection. It is not as simple as to whether the town of Middleton itself was in Durham, that is not the question.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: GUEST,padgett on lap top
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 07:38 AM

Well when you find that the clever ones come to your rescue ~ "fait acompli" or whatever it should be

Fistly, Middleton isn't/ was never in Yorkshire, but the mining was carried on in Nth Yorkshire in moor land area. Middleton being the nearest village, the Tees being the boundary

Scowie, I have sung the Manchester Cornstalk a number of times this year already ~ from Arthur Howard's singing, who lived on the hills above Penistone as a sheep farmer ~ I wonder if you or you mate Nick Caffery have collected this from anyone your side of the Pennines?

I bet the Commercial Traveller was from Yorkshire though!

Ray ~ Merry Christmas to all!

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: nutty
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 12:35 PM

Sorry Ray, but your website says that MacColl collected the song in Middleton-in-Teesdale,YORKSHIRE, which is clearly misleading.

I'm sure you want to present accurate information.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 06:32 PM

Ray shouldn't the performer on Luckies Sailor say Mick McGarry and not Hissyfit? also there seems to be a link missing fr the fishing/industrial which doesnt seem to take me onto the webpage.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 06:39 PM

Brilliant site folks - every other county should be jealous!

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: GUEST,padgett on lap top
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 04:53 AM

Many thanks to all for pointing out the errors

Fortunately they are not all mine and you should see the list of things to do!!

Please bear with us and we will get round to changes eventually

Ray

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 01:22 PM

Hi Ray

The positives totally drown the negatives.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: r.padgett
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 01:28 PM

Good man Dennis your a Star**

Ray

Subject: RE: Yorkshire Garland new songs!
From: r.padgett
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 01:29 PM

you're of course Whoops!!

Ray