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Licensing consultation announced!

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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 12:40 PM

http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news/8330789.School_licence_is_extended_despite_objections/

Another school employing a barrister to defend speculative objections from difficult neighbours and even then, the original application needed to be limited.

Perhaps schools should start showing TV sport?


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 01:41 PM

http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?sectioncode=14&storycode=67682

Enough is enough?
12 August, 2010

By James Wilmore

Despite the rising cost of offering Sky Sports, many licensees have traditionally decided it was a service worth having and reluctantly kept paying. But with its new 'fairer' pricing system still likely to mean a hike for the majority, are pubs finally deciding that the benefits no longer outweigh the cost?


Of course the showing of TV sport does not require that licensees have to pay for the additional entertainment permission and red-tape which is considered vital to protect the public for just about any other gathering.

This article suggest quiz nights as an alternative to Sky Sports. I wonder how long it will be before quiz nights require licensing or are subject of some kind of stealth taxation?


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 08:30 PM

http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/8327206.Landlady_hits_back_at__noisy__pub_slur/

Gill Matthews, 47, started at The Oak pub in Oakridge Road, Basingstoke 15 weeks ago, but has been ordered to leave by owners Silver Keg Ltd, after a noise abatement notice was issued by the borough council


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 11:25 AM

http://consultations.homeoffice.gov.uk/index.php?survey=3


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 06:02 AM

http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?sectioncode=7&storycode=67676&c=1

Cafes should open later as 'alternative to pubs', says report


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 05:17 AM

http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/news.ma/article/88027?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ma-rss-all-n

Ken Livingstone: I'll save music pubs

    * By John Harrington
    * 12/08/2010 09:21

Ken Livingstone has revealed a plan to save live music in pubs if he becomes London mayor again.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 11:14 AM

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/content/Detail.aspx?ReleaseID=414950&NewsAreaID=2

The Department for Business, Innovation and Skills has today confirmed that a review of the Local Better Regulation Office (LBRO) will be carried out.

The local regulation of businesses by environmental health, fire safety, licensing and trading standards services can place unnecessary burdens on them, hampering economic growth. The LBRO was set up to address this issue, combining an independent, expert perspective on local regulation with the statutory powers required to drive progress


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 11:03 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/10940402

Ken Livingstone has attacked a police check form used by authorities in London, calling the way it was based on the ethnicity of a concert's audience "divisive" and "wrong".

Currently battling to be Labour's candidate for London mayor he said given the powers he would scrap the form if he returns to office.


Err....wasn't he Mayor when Form 696 was first introduced?


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 06:58 AM

The problem is simply this: assuming we rescind all references to public performance in that Act, could *you* draught anything that would help to quell the unseemly behaviour which afflicts even country market towns at weekends?

How about this?

http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?sectioncode=7&storycode=67672&c=1

Newquay crackdown on pub crawls could bring new law

11 August, 2010

By Glynn Davis

Code of conduct for crawl organisers proves a success in tackling problems.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 06:53 AM

http://menmedia.co.uk/news/s/1312753_promoter_defeats_council_in_legal_battle_over_bob_marley_gig

Promoter defeats council in legal battle over Bob Marley gig
Susannah Wright

August 02, 2010


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 06:36 AM

The following from Flos Headford on the EFDDS forum:

I must have missed out on something - I don't recall any safety features in the Licensing Act. My reading of recent correspondence on this is that it seems that some Local Authorities seem to be using the Act as an excuse for barring what they see as exciting (for which they read 'dangerous') activities on their home patch which involve outsiders coming in. And that, in some cases, the local constabulary feel they don't have the manning to cope (because they've never been to Sidmouth).

Safety law is in place. Noise regulation is in place.
The question is - why would anyone need this part of the legislation? Let alone devolve the criteria to local councils, who have too much on their plate already?
I know what the Spanish or Italians would do -and so do you. Fiesta!

The problem is simply this: assuming we rescind all references to public performance in that Act, could *you* draught anything that would help to quell the unseemly behaviour which afflicts even country market towns at weekends?

The honest answer is NO. We have legislation that was designed to combat a perceived threat to inner city areas being applied to Nempnett Thrubwell.

It is the implication that music is to blame that we ought to focus on.

Rant over...
Love to one and all,
Flos


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: Tootler
Date: 10 Aug 10 - 07:33 PM

For every Festival/Event they pervent

Pervent! Now there's an interesting word. A combination of pervert and prevent - seems appropriate somehow [g]


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 10 Aug 10 - 06:03 AM

There seems to be a limited number of councils involved. In other areas, events seem to go ahead with relatively little trouble.

License refusals often seem to be on the basis of objections by only one or two people, which makes me wonder if the councils in question are looking for an excuse - any excuse - to say no.


Perhaps the Coalition Govt's idea of 1 in 1 out can be extended to LAs? For every Festival/Event they pervent - they take the responibilty for the loss and have to organise and pay for one to replace it?

We may then see more effort made to ensure that what is needed is provided to enable the event to take place as planned rather than LAs thinking that the object of the legislation is to prevent them and that their responsibility ends at this point.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 03:12 PM

http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?sectioncode=7&storycode=67664&c=1

Two more sessions planned after concerns that trade will not get a voice

The Home Office has added two extra dates to its licensing consultation roadshows in London and Nottingham.

Pub trade figures had voiced fears the industry would not be represented at the events, as health and councils officials were quick off the mark in securing a place.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 03:05 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/news/20100805_livebill.shtml

Lord Clement-Jones talks about the Live Music Bill on BBC Radio 6.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 02:38 PM

The following comments from Fee Lock (on the EFDSS site)

Forgive me, Roger, but I think the thinking here is wrong. Professionally-acting festival organisers manage to apply for licenses in good time, because that's what the law requires. There's no point berating a law because you don't like it: either comply with it properly or put up with it.

The information required to put on a gathering is freely available from local authorities, who in my experience fall over themselves to help if approached in reasonable time from someone who's actually going to do it properly. It's not rocket science to understand that there are going to be dozens of Acts and bye-laws that need compliance in order to put on any large event, and labelling what seems to me to be poor organisation, tardy communication and a naive belief that shaking a collection tin for a worthy cause is enough to overlook the potential safety of attendees, does a disservice to those of us who work closely with our local councils and police to avoid what happened in Germany just a few weeks ago.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: Tootler
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 07:22 AM

There does seem to be a couple of other features common to many of these events.

  • There seems to be a limited number of councils involved. In other areas, events seem to go ahead with relatively little trouble.

  • License refusals often seem to be on the basis of objections by only one or two people, which makes me wonder if the councils in question are looking for an excuse - any excuse - to say no.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: Howard Jones
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 07:11 AM

A common thread running through these cancelled events is objections by the police or the increased cost of policing.

It would be interesting to know whether any of these events had a history of policing incidents, or whether the police are simply adopting a default position for all music events (as would appear to be the case in the Merchant Taylor's School licence quoted earlier in the thread).


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 05:47 AM

http://www.efestivals.co.uk/news/10/100512a.shtml

With great sadness we have been forced to cancel the Glade Festival 2010.

When we started back in 2004 we did so out of a love of electronic music, free spiritedness and alternative culture and in response to the vibrant free party scene in the UK. We wanted to have our own version of the kind of colourful, creative and non-corporate events that happen in many places across the planet… Looking back it is amazing that it happened.

As many Glade fans will know over the years we have fought hard to maintain the integrity of the event against steadily increasing restrictions imposed by local authority and police. The resulting compromises have led to increased costs, increased ticket prices and a throttling of the very essence of what we wanted to do. It led to us finally having to move from the lovely Wasing estate due to late night noise restrictions and the police's demands for an ever-increasing security and police presence at the event.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 05:40 AM

http://www.strawberry-fair.org.uk/cancel-2010.php

It is with regret that the Strawberry Fair Committee have been forced to cancel the 2010 event.

Earlier this year elected Councillors made the decision to grant a license for the Fair this year. The Police then took action to appeal this decision which left the organising Committee is a very tricky position.

It was impossible for us to commit the resources, time and funds needed to satisfy the appeals process whilst continuing to organise the 2010 Fair. Also, the timetable for the appeal meant that we would not find out if the Fair could go ahead as planned until very close to the actual date. We did not want to pass this risk on to the many supportive suppliers, traders, and artists whose livelihoods would be severely damaged by a last minute cancellation.

Since taking this tough decision, the Committee have opened up discussions with the Council and the Police to ensure that there is a secure future for Strawberry Fair. So far the discussions have been constructive and we are continuing to pursue this route. With the support of local residents we are doing all we can to make sure Strawberry Fair returns in 2011 and beyond.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 05:20 AM

And another event cancelled due to licencing.

http://www.strawberry-fair.org.uk/what-you-are-missing.php

"As you know the 2010 Strawberry Fair has been cancelled, but we thought we'd give you a taste of what we were planning so you can see what you're missing out on!"

"For 2010 the Strawberry Fair committee were planning big changes in response to public feedback. The idea was to create even more opportunities for all ages and interests to get involved, take part and have fun. Read on to find out more…"


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 08 Aug 10 - 10:59 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-10906378

Police had to break up a gathering of more than 3,000 people on Bournemouth beach because the organisers failed to secure a licence.
The Sierra Leone Brighton Association advertised the "Sierra Leone Day" but no-one told the authorities.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 05:04 PM

http://www.thegrassrootsfeastival.co.uk/

We regret to advise that we're no longer able to continue with the GrassRoots Feastival due to licensing issues. Much love & peace to all x


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 02:30 PM

http://www.wyenot.com/news/2010-letters.htm

'Dear Wyenot, Ross Gazette and Herefordshire Council

In relation the council banning the Jamstand event due to Jack Baldus not applying for a license, this is sheer rubbish!

If you go down to the site I have counted five blue "Premises License" dotted around, signed and laminated by the council !

This is either a admin slip up by the council and they do not want to admit the mistake after it going in the papers and radio, or they just do not want it to go ahead full stop, due to a few minority residents complaining about noise levels. These are the same "fat cats" who have ties in the council that complain that nothing ever happens in Ross!. This is the one event the younger generation of Ross and the surrounding area look forward to each year since the festival was set up.

For us to penalized and the event organiser made out to be extremely incompetent by the Council and Ross Gazette is unacceptable when the right thing has been done. The police have already given an aggressive message to Jack to pass on to us, that anyone on the public grounds between the 13th-14th will be arrested for breaching the peace. Does this apply to anyone just walking by as well, people walking dogs etc?

I believe the event needs to go ahead as nothing has been done incorrectly and also an apology made to Jack by the council and media after being villianised by both. This is a very large event and for it to be banned for no valid reason will cause a backlash. I am one of many that would be happy to stage a protest at this decision.

Regards
Josh Hancox
joshhancox@btinternet.com'


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 02:09 PM

Curiouser and curiouser - it is also suggested that the organiser doesn't have permission from the landowners:

It is suggested by the owners of this land, who are Herefordshire Council.

"Not only does the event not have a licence, but the organiser has not obtained permission from the owners of Caroline Symonds Gardens (Herefordshire Council) and the bandstand (Ross-on-Wye Town Council) to use those areas.

"We will be taking every action possible to prevent the event taking place,"
Paul Nicholas, Herefordshire Council assistant director public health.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: Howard Jones
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 12:55 PM

Curiouser and curiouser - it is also suggested that the organiser doesn't have permission from the landowners:

Ross on Wye Journal

Definitely more than meets the eye.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 12:40 PM

The following from the S 182 Guidance to the Licensing Act 2003.

13.58

Care will be needed to ensure that only necessary, proportionate and reasonable licensing conditions impose any restrictions on these events. Where there is any indication that events are being deterred by licensing requirements, statements of licensing policy should be re-visited with a view to investigating how the situation might be reversed. Broader cultural activities and entertainment may also be affected. In developing their statements of licensing policy, licensing authorities should also consider any views of the local authority's arts committee, where one exists.


Whatever the full facts of the 2010 Jamstand Festival may turn out to be, it is at least clear that this valuable cultural activity has been deterred by local licensing requirements. The local Licensing Authority are now required to investigate with a view to reverse the situation.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,Nims
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 10:36 AM

There is more to this story than meets the eye. The license was applied for this year and in previous years. The notice of application was posted on 5th July in local papers and on telephone poles in the area inviting objections and none were raised. Herefordshire district council have yet to explain why they claim that the license was not applied for. Ross is a small town that relies heavily on its vistors to generate income - this will spell disaster for our already struggling small traders and is a massive shot in the foot for Herefordshire council when it comes to future votes.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 07:51 AM

I wouldn't trust this Condem Gov't on anything, as their sole aim so far seems to be make the oldest, sickest, poorest responsible for their banking friends incompetence (crime is a better word) But if it can be raised to 200 then great. Our Folk club plans to hold 2 events over the next 10 months catering for around 150 each, if he limit was 100 both would have to be cancelled

The current Govt have yet to actually propose anything. The previous lot did at least consult on their proposal of a figure of 100 to be exempted.

We still await any proposal following the completion of this consultation. So if they are relying on an exemption - it would not really be safe for your Folk Club to assume that there would be an exemption based on any figure in the next 10 months.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,Free
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 07:27 AM

I wouldn't trust this Condem Gov't on anything, as their sole aim so far seems to be make the oldest, sickest, poorest responsible for their banking friends incompetence (crime is a better word) But if it can be raised to 200 then great. Our Folk club plans to hold 2 events over the next 10 months catering for around 150 each, if he limit was 100 both would have to be cancelled


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 06:33 AM

It is difficult to apportion blame when we do not know all of the facts. But it would seem to be a fact that the event planned for 2010 had taken place for the previous 3 years. It is not clear if permission was in place for these. If the organisers had not needed permission for these, they may have resonable concluded that they would not need it for the 2010 event.

So the issue here is that the event this year, with all its benefits, is being prevented, by the local authority as if the issue of licensing was their only responsibility. It was not as if the event planned for 2010 was the first time the LA and the police would have been aware of it. They had plenty of time to ensure that whatever licensing was required was in place to enable the 2010 event.

If LAs continue to use licensing as a means only to prevent valuable cultural activities, then licensing must be removed from them before they can prevent any more.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: Howard Jones
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 05:52 AM

As you know, I am no supporter of the current licensing arrangements, and I agree that Jamstand looks like a worthwhile event, but I cannot help feeling it is a little unfair to blame the local authority when according to the BBC report they have not even received an application for a licence.

An event for 5000 people takes a lot of organising, and a lot of things need to be thought about including meeting any statutory requirements. If the organisers didn't think to apply for a TEN, what else haven't they thought of?


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 08:38 PM

http://www.ledburyportal.co.uk/portal/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3242:jamstand-festival-2010&catid=1:latest&It

This sounds like the sort of event that everyone should be supporting and which the local authority should be ensuring has all the permission it requires.

It is a disgrace that such an event is prevented and that the local authority is happy to prevent it, as long as the blame can be placed at someone else's door.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 08:20 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-10881392

Jamstand Organisers were unavailable for comment.

This year's event was due to be the fourth annual festival, headlined by Roots Manuva and Ugly Duckling.

Herefordshire Council and West Mercia Police said the event needed a premises licence or temporary event notice.

They said the application deadline had passed and the event must be cancelled.


I would have thought that, if this (the forth such event) needed permission - then so would the first three.................


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 02:29 PM

http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?sectioncode=7&storycode=67652&c=1

The Home Office has confirmed its overhaul of the licensing regime will be covered by the new "one-in, one-out" rules on regulation.

The Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS) announced today the new rules would begin on September 1.

This means when ministers introduce new regulations which "impose costs on business" they will have to remove a similar rule.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 01:13 PM

http://app.southwark.gov.uk/licensing/LicPremisesGrantedDetails.asp?systemkey=830615

The following comments from John King:

Southwark Council doing their best to clamp down on music at Dulwich Preparatory School:

'The head teacher of the nursery or designated deputy shall be on duty when the doors are open to greet and monitor students; parents, guests and ...authorised visitors'

'Whilst licensable activities are taking place, all windows and doors shall be closed except for access and egress, to minimise any potential noise nuisance to local residents and/or businesses.'

'Step and stair edges shall be highlighted so as to be conspicuous'

'Noise shall be monitored and kept to within agreed levels'

And lastly... 'Attendants shall be present at performances for unaccompanied children' What the hell does that mean, and why do Southwark Licensing Officers need to advise teachers how to supervise children?


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 11:48 AM

http://app.southwark.gov.uk/Licensing/LicPremisesAppliedDetails.asp?systemkey=832414

John King Comments:

Form 696 still THRIVING. But this is a NEW premises licence, so what is Southwark Council's justification for this?

This in ref to condition 303 - If any individual or member requires to hire the premises for their use they shall be made to complete the Venue Hire Agreement Form 696 as provided by the Metropolitan Police. Form 696 is to be provided to the Licensing Police at least 14days prior to the date of hire.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 11:38 AM

The Licensing Act 2003 was, for many observers, not a deregulation of alcohol licensing, but a re-regulation. Pubs had originally wanted a few extra hours of trading at weekends.

http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/news.ma/article/87944?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ma-rss-all-n


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: IanC
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 10:49 AM

People are frequently unfair about Oliver Cromwell.

He didn't shut down any theatres (even if he had wanted to), liked music and is recorded as having danced at family weddings.

:-(


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: Green Man
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 10:28 AM

The then culture secretary should have been subjected to rigorous examination to see if there was a single cultured bone in her body. This was one of the most destructive things to happen to live music since Cromwell.

This should be a non issue as the law should never have been tampered with.

Pubs with Sky or MTV screens make far more noise and when football is on generate far more trouble than a whole football pitch full of folkies could do.

I don't know about cool Britania, more like fool Britania.

GM


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 02:17 PM

http://www.sefton.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=7801

John King Comments: Sefton Council's scandalous licence register is now online. Merchant Taylor School for Boys has live music restrictions normally reserved for nightclubs with a history of gun-crime. The school's premises licence contains the word 'terrorism'.

The provision of regulated entertainment - Live music
Saturday - from 09.00 to 22.00
Sunday - from 09.00 to 22.00

The provision of regulated entertainment - entertainment of a similar description to that falling within the category of live music, recorded music, or performance of dance
Saturday - from 09.00 to 22.00
Sunday - from 09.00 to 22.00

The Licence Holder shall only employ, to carry out security activities, individuals who are either: a) authorised to carry out that activity by a licence granted under the Private Security Industry Act 2001, or b) entitled to carry out that activity by virtue of Section 4 of that Act. Where applicable the Licence Holder shall also ensure that such individuals at all times when on duty wear an identity badge, conspicuously displayed and in a form and manner prescribed by the Security Industry Authority.

A letter & form for application of tickets shall be sent to parents. Local residents shall be advised of events. Parents shall provide their own food as a picnic and shall be asked not to bring alcohol onto school premises. SIA qualified staff x 4 shall patrol the site. Sefton Mobile surveillance unit shall be present 16:00 – 20:30 There shall be large school staff presence. School insurers shall be notified. All appropriate local services shall be cognizant of events. There shall be no parking for audience on school grounds. There shall be security barriers in front of the stage. Stewards shall wear high visibility vests. Staging, sound, lighting shall be provided by Tega – a specialist company (Reg no 3157162). Sound lighting engineers shall be provided by Tega for events. School nurse & six first aiders shall be present. No alcohol shall be consumed on site. Parents & pupils shall be encouraged to depart soon after entertainment has finished – 21:00 latest. Designated staff shall supervise pupils whilst they are performing. Young pupils shall be supervised by their parents at other times. CCTV shall be provided in the form of a recordable system, capable of providing pictures of EVIDENTIAL QUALITY in all lighting conditions particularly facial recognition. Cameras shall encompass all ingress and egress to the premises and all areas where licensable activities occur. Equipment shall be maintained in good working order and be correctly time & date stamped, recordings shall be kept in date order, numbered sequentially and kept for a period of 31 days and handed to Police on request. The Recording equipment and tapes/discs shall be kept in a secure environment under the control of the Premises Licence Holder or other responsible named individual/body. Appropriate signage representative of the above in conspicuous positions. Admittance to any event will be ticket only. Occupancy levels will be strictly monitored at all times and presented to the Police upon demand. An Incident logbook will be maintained throughout any event and produced to the Police upon demand. The Provision of Frontline Security Industry Licensed staff will be in alignment with occupancy levels on a ratio of 1 per 100, in addition main access /egress points will by covered by two Licensed Security Guards per access /egress point. SIA approved Licensed staff will wear smart clearly marked attire utilising at least the words 'SECURITY ATTENDANT" and clearly display their licence at all times. A Door Supervisors Logbook will be used at all times that front line Licensed Security Staff are operative and will be presented to the Police upon demand (Logbooks are supplied free of charge by Sefton Local Authority Licensing Unit). A copy of the Event Operational Plan for all events shall be lodged with the Police Licensing Unit for the Borough of Sefton & Merseyside Police Event Planning Unit (Sefton Area). The Event organisers Operating Plan will be incorporated as part of the premises Licence Conditions (Operating Schedule) and will incorporate additional measures that will be taken to manage crime and disorder on these occasions. All events which involves an attendance of between 1,000- 5,000 shall be communicated to the Sefton Police Licensing Unit at least 28 Days in Advance (Notice period) All events which involves an attendance of more than 5,000 shall be communicated to the Sefton Police Licensing Unit 90 days in advance (Notice Period) The Operating schedule must carry a clear disclaimer that give assurances that events which require any Policing (whether at Public or Private Cost) must not be staged when Merseyside Police consider that they are unable to meet demand to any other Operational Commitments, pre- determined, anticipated or spontaneous eg Riot, Civil Unrest, Terrorism.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 01:39 PM

http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?sectioncode=16&storycode=67638&c=1

Poorly represented by the pub trade and over attended by the civil servants who enforce the laws, it was clear from the outset that the mentality of those helping shape the next stage in the Licensing Act were not in favour of licensees'


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 09:24 AM

http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/news/Grand-piano-noise-annoys-woman/article-2446184-detail/article.html

John King Comments:

The Noise Abatement Notice was not issued because the piano was creating a disturbance. The complaint was upheld because the piano was audible.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 09:19 AM

http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/news.ma/article/87924?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ma-rss-all-n

It was a good, open meeting where the trade got to put its points across but concerns remain about whether the licensing overhaul is already a done deal.


That's the verdict of John Hayes, a member of the Noctis committee and chairman of the four-strong Bamboogy chain, after he attended a Home Office consultation session on the proposed changes to the Licensing Act.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 03 Aug 10 - 03:39 PM

http://www.thewestonmercury.co.uk/content/twm/news/story.aspx?brand=Westonmercury&category=newsNorthSomerset&tBrand=westonmercur

Any music from the venue must not rise above background noise level for the nearest neighbour and management has been ordered to carry out regular checks to make sure this is maintained.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 03 Aug 10 - 06:47 AM

http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/news.ma/article/87912?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ma-rss-all-n

The jolly old DCMS is to carry on with the entertainment bit, and presumably the rather tricky job of squaring the circle on small-scale live music, with a House of Lords bill to contend with and still no clear indication as to how far the exemption can be allowed to go. From its track record of indecisiveness on licensing matters — of which we have had much evidence recently — it may still be wrestling with the problem well after the Olympics have come and gone.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 02:43 PM

http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?sectioncode=7&storycode=67623&c=1

Chief executive Brigid Simmonds writes to Theresa May voicing "fundamental concerns"

Trade chief Brigid Simmonds has sent a strongly-worded letter to Home Secretary Theresa May warning pubs face losing basic legal protections, over the shake-up in licensing laws.


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 02:37 PM

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Merry-Harriers/98564557186?ref=mf

The Merry Harriers

Some of you may already be aware that we have been served a Noise Abatement Notice by Waverely Borough Council. This stems from a complaint from one neighbour about our less than once monthly music nights and could result in The Merry Harriers losing it's music license which would mean the end of live music at the pub....

On hearing about this some of the village 'elders' have put together the attached letter and addressed it to Martin Shorten Head of Environmental Health at Waverely. Many of our regulars and people from the village have added their names and addresses to the letter and sent it to Mr Shorten. If you would like to support us in this matter and help to make sure we keep live music at The Merry Harriers please feel free to print the attached letter and send it to Mr Shorten or sign it electronically and email it back to us at juliestoneley@btconnect.com. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Julie & Colin


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 02:35 PM

http://www.advertiser24.co.uk/content/advertiser24/news/story.aspx?brand=NOROnline&category=News&tBrand=NOROnline&tCategory=News


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Subject: RE: Licensing consultation announced!
From: nickp
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 06:57 AM

full details here

Communities Secretary Eric Pickles wants to stem the flow of relentless form filling, high costs and red tape for organising summer street parties and fetes.

Extortionate, inconsistent costs and paperwork for road closures, risk assessments, and temporary event notices are barriers to community events. It can often take weeks and cost thousands of pounds for councils trying to process these applications, which can deter both councils and organisers from putting on events.

There are examples of local communities having to apply for up to five separate licences, pay up to £5,000 for a temporary road closure and obtain insurance cover for £2million for a typical outdoor event.


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