Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Flush
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 02:48 AM

Re Addingham
Bernard Fawcett of the Jovial Crew, what a singer, I used to go most weeks and sit on the top of the piano so I couild see. Hotel Cottages Boroughbridge, run firstly by the Greens and then The Crofters, of which I am one, Alan sadly passed away a good number of years ago. The Watermill Inn originally run by Zeke and then taken over by The Crofters

The Ferranda Arms Bingley, Thursday nights I seem to remember
Iain

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: ced2
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 04:36 AM

'Twas Bernard Louth, not Fawcett unless he changed his name by deed poll, he also ran a market stall in Keighley. Moved away down south a good few years ago. John Shackleton one of the other Jovial Crew members escaped teaching a recently, Jimmy sadly died quite a number of years ago. Managed to get a picture of the three at the Bingley Folk Workshop either in late 1966 or early 1967.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,MC Fat (at work)
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 04:51 AM

Thanks for the mention Padge but why no mention of your own fine club when it was at the Wheatsheaf. You could usually find Dave Burland losing to Robin Garside at pool downstairs !!!!

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,padgett on lap top
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 05:04 AM

NUff said about The Wheatsheaf (see also Farewell to Wheatsheaf on Yorkshire Garland website) sung by Roy Hardacre of Harrogate! ~ and Emmie Peck, the landlady

A bit of history there already (ok from me!)

Some characters thro there as with the Civic!

I have listed names on a earlier thread

Ray Padgett

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,flush
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 05:39 AM

Ced2
Indeed it was Louth I stand corrected, they were good old days, did you get to the George at Hubberholme

Baz and Steve the ninety mile an hour banjo picker

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 05:48 AM

In Bradford, the Topic Folk Club is pretty well documented, with the guest lists reconstructed back as far as 1970 to the present day. It was the first folk club I attended, some time around Easter 1977 onwards. Looking at the guest list from that year, I remember seeing Nadine Elliott clog dancing on a board whilst Derek and Dorothy sang "My gal's a Yorkshire gal". I was reliant on bus transport, so never saw the end of anyone's final set, as the bus left town at 11.00pm.
Another club which ran around that time was in the upstairs room of The Kings Arms at Heaton, opposite St. Bede's School where I spent most of my weekdays. Not sure who ran it, but I seem to recall one of the regulars was Neil Ingram who was at one time a member of local band Aiken's Drum.
A couple of years later Neil was running a club in an upstairs room in The Metropole Hotel, Sunbridge Rd. I used to go when home from University, but can't recall how long it ran. At the time, The Metropole was one of a small handful of Tetley pubs which still had the original autovac handpumps. They had never been removed when the keg beer revolution gutted most of the country. A pint of Tetley bitter from the Metropole was completely different from that produced by later handpumps, with a head thick as cream, not like the flaccid froth on the top of modern pints.
Another club which hasn't yet been mentioned was at Wilsden. It was before my time, but I believe it was at The Ling Bob on Haworth Road.

As for Addingham. I didn't know Sunday nights at the Fleece, and David Harrison until the 1980s dancing with Boar's Head Morrismen. I recall the famous line attributed to him - when people at the back of the (always packed) room were making too much noise he told them "If you want to talk, there are two empty pubs further down the village".
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: ced2
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 06:44 AM

I only went to Hubberholme a couple of times... that was a singularly boozy venue with the camping in the field! least said soonest mended but they were enjoyable nights. I'm really miffed about forgetting Jimmy's surname, he went on to become quite an acomplished fiddle player. Baz now plays fiddle and Steve still plays banjo, lives somewhere north of York.
And GtD there was a folk club at the Ling Bob. Went a couple of times in the mid to late 70s.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Bruce Michael Baillie
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 07:09 AM

The Anchor in Brighouse (Saturday)Castle Hill Huddersfield (Sunday)The Commercial, Chapel Hill, Hudds, (Monday)Three Nuns at Mirfield Tuesday)Richardsons Arms, Oakenshaw (Wednesday)Singing Jenny, Hudds (Thursday)Topic, Bradford (Friday)Three Owls at Kirkburton (Friday)Keighley FC, Bacca Pipes, (Friday)
...And that was just a few, most nights in the 70's you a had a choice! Folking good times indeed!

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: ossonflags
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 05:56 AM

The Rugby Hotel folk Club Dock Street Hull late sixties seventis; Brilliant!!!!! First met me old mate Jock Manual there, also Jim Eldon, Mike Waterson and Jill Pidd who were the other resident singers.

Others who appeared there on a regular basis, Dick Gaughan, Vin Garbutt and Teeside Fettlers, Watersons, Christy Moore, Steve gardhamFureys, Luke Kelly, Martin Carthy, Pete Betts, Louis Killen, Ray and Archie Fisher, Bob Davenport, Mike Harding, The Gaugers, Isabelle Sutherland, Swan Arcade, Tony Capstick,Sean Cannon Packie Byrne and many more.

Pub is still there (now a Sam Smiths house).In the time I used it was officially a Bass house but sold Camerons, same as the other great Folk club,Folk Union One at The Bluebellpub still there but alas also Sam Smiths

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 09:29 AM

Humphry has a lot to answer for. I still miss the Plough at Whitby.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Pulseroom
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 10:03 AM

Anyone remember the Wellington Boot Westgate Rotherham, small room upstairs, David (Ray Hearne wrote a song for David) used to pop in and sing Lola by the kinks the go. I saw a very young Vin Garbutt and loved his song "We May or May Never All Meet here Again" from the album "The Old Tin Whistle Pest" along with some fabulous whiste tunes.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Lilith
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 11:11 AM

Anyone know what happened to John and Sarah Ledbury?

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: theleveller
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 11:23 AM

"David (Ray Hearne wrote a song for David) used to pop in and sing Lola"

It's a great song - it's on Ray's new CD The Wrong Sunshine.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Nicholas Waller
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 11:40 AM

As Geoff The Duck points out, the guest date info for The Topic in Bradford goes back to 1970 - pretty much 52 weeks a year for 40 years now.

However, the info for the period from 1970 back to 1956 is almost entirely missing... there are some minute books that went missing somewhere, I understand. But if Bill Turnpenny or Dave Hanson or anyone else happens to have old flyers or whatever with info from the 60s and late 50s sitting about, it would be great to be able to add some more dates to the giglist.

Cheers
Nick - Topic Webo at the moment.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Georgina Boyes
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 11:57 AM

It was Austin May who was co-organiser at The Grapes on Trippett Lane in Sheffield. I was a member there from 1962-64 - Shirley Collins was one of their guests.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Richard Hardaker
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 12:17 PM

It was pleasant to see mention on this thread of the George at Hubberholme, the scene of many a bibulous weekend in my mis-spent youth. I first started going there in 1970, hitch hiking from Harrogate. Jackie Beresford was in attendance on accordian in those days, and ukelele player (Norman?) from Leeds, known as "Banjo Willie". Dennis Ward from Harrogate (another accordianist) was a regular, latterly with his son Dominic.

I remember one summer afternoon in 1971 the folkies organised a sports day up the dale near Yockenthwaite including such events as rhubarb thrashing and a tug o' war across the river (I got a soaking)

The last time I was there in a folk music context was as part of an early Knaresborough mummers performance at Easter 1975.
I always remember the Saturday nights in the George as one of the first informal song and music sessions I encountered which I have
always preferred to the formal concert style folk club.

Richard Hardaker

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 01:02 PM

What happened to Geoff Ingham of Leeds?

L in C

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Rank
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 04:54 PM

John Ledbury is still with the Lord Conyers Morris , but I think he lives down South a bit. Try a query at www.lordconyers.org.uk
I last saw Sarah with Sheffield City Giants at Saltburn Festival a few years ago now. Try www.sheffieldcitygiants.org.uk

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Folkiedave
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 05:23 PM

Sarah (Eykyn now) is currently Captain of the Giants and she was there at practice this morning. (Sunday Jan 17th)!

She is on Facebook too.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 05:28 PM

there was a folk club run by Noel Dobson in York, nothing to do with the present club ,in fact in the eighties there was noels club and the club that later became the one roland walls now organises.
I played them both several times.
I think Noel Dobson was an antique dealer .
Mike Soar organised a few clubs,Ithink he was running one in Selby in the late seventies.
Goff and Eilenn Sherborne were running a club at Goole in the late seventies too I believe.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 05:57 PM

i can remember playing,
batley folk club[mick haywood].goole folk club[many times], [likewise]robin hoods bay,whitby, both the york clubs,sheffield grapes[often a full house].Hull [bluebell].
yarm[pete kings club] scarborough folk club[val russell]
eston folk and darts club run byFred Inganni
John Taylors[cutty wren club],I am sure was in Yorkshire,I had many a good night there.
there was aclub run by Alan King[a few mile north of robin hoods bay]i think it was Runswick Bay.
Holmfirth,Bradford topic,singing jenny Halifax,Skipton,Harrogate.
Otley folk club.
There werent many I havent done [ i the only one Ican think of is Keighley].Dick Miles
http://www.dickmiles.com

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,cleckywike
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 02:32 PM

Anybody rember the Spoted Cow at Drighlington and the Brunswick at Morley had some good times at both culbs
                        
                        Geoff

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Cleckywike
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 02:37 PM

Anybody remember the Spotted Cow at Drighlington and the Brunswick at Morley had some good times at both clubs

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,flush
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 04:33 PM

played those ones as part of Drumnadrochit Geoff

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Cleckywike
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 05:46 AM

Yes I remember Drumnadrochit but can't recall the line up of the band seem to get mix st up with a band call Leather Bottle can you name the line up for me please

                         Geoff

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,flush
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 03:42 PM

Leather Bottle was Me (Iain Glover), with Trogg and Tony Mcgrath
Drumnadrochit was just me and Tony.

I trust you are keeping well Geoff

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Neovo
Date: 20 Jan 10 - 03:33 AM

I was trying to think of the name of your band flush - yes, I remember Leather Bottle very well. Didn't you run a club in Otley - Black Bull?

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Cleckywike
Date: 20 Jan 10 - 04:09 AM

Yes we are both keeping verey well still runing folkrelated events like the Panther folk club in Cleckheaton at the Wickham
                     Geoff

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Jan 10 - 04:25 AM

I had two great nights as guest at the Otley folk club.Dick Miles
http://www.dickmiles.com

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,flush
Date: 20 Jan 10 - 02:32 PM

Geoff, let me know what night your club is and I will try to get over to see you

Neovo
That was some years ago give me a clue on your name

Iain

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Ebor_fiddler
Date: 20 Jan 10 - 04:14 PM

Dear Mr Schweik, Noel was but the public face of t'Committee (the rest of us)! A litle larger than life, he did give the impression he ran everything (Bless him)! He worked for BT as an Engineer, well-known as being a bolshy lot, but is now long retired, close-shaven and respectable.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Cleckywike
Date: 20 Jan 10 - 04:18 PM

Iain the Panther folk club meets every Tuesday at 8=30pm at the Wickham Hotel Cleckheaton John Honygold and I was only talking about you last Tuesday would be nice you again and anybody else for that matter
                Geoff

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Someone who knows different
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 06:00 AM

ced2
Just for the record if we are talking about the other member of the Jovial Crew - that is not Bernard nor John but Jim then I would like to mention that he is fit and well at the moment so I think maybe you have some bad information on him.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 08:07 AM

Well why don't you set the record straight then guest who knows different ? or is it a secret ?

Dave H

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 11:58 AM

I remember Leather Bottle. Particularly being hit on the head with a tray by Trog in there version of The Boxer. I still have the headache I think i should sue.

Joe Nicholson

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: ced2
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 12:43 PM

I am very pleased to hear that, there were two "Jims" who were knocking about in the folk scenein the Keighley & Bingley area in the period 1966 to 1969. I used to occasionally get them mixed up back then so it is more than likely that I am getting them mixed up now. If he is alive and well I have a photograph that I took at the Bingley Folk Workshop, probably early 1967 of the three members of the Jovial Crew along with Ken Edes on Banjo. I've already attached this to an email to John and he forwarded a copy to Bernard. I would be delighted to send one to Jim should he like to receive one. Thanks for the good news!

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Arnie
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 05:51 AM

Apologies for slight thread drift, but my wife was a student at Margaret McMillans college, Bradford in the early '70's. She wasn't much into folk in those days, but her and two friends were given free tickets to see Ralph McTell at St Georges Hall. When the three of them arrived, they doubled the size of the audience! Seems that Ralph was not quite as popular in those days...

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Someone who knows different
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 07:08 AM

ced2
Hi, I just thought I would write a note to say that Jimmy is alive and kicking although not too high nowadays. I'm enjoying the memories of playing the folk club, making the record at the Cheshire studios and all the fun we had singing. My role was playing guitar backing and harmonising with John and Bernard. Good times eh?
any photos would be very much appreciated!Not sure how you can do this?
Best wishes to all
Jim

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 07:20 AM

Has anyone mentioned the Cross Keys in Uppermill Saddleworth still going strong.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Someone who knows different
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 07:24 AM

to ced2
Do you remember "The singing greensman" who occasionally sang at the Bingley venue? (Ferrands Arms?)
Jim

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: ced2
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 08:01 AM

No, I only went to the Ferrends a couple of times. When I started teaching that took up most of my waking hours for a couple of years, at least until I got a car. As to the photos I think you will need to register as a member on Mudcat. That will then allow you to send me a message containing an email address to which I can send the pic as an attachment. I also have one of the Folkweavers in the Kings at one of the Friday night bashes! And were you involved in that massive concert for the scouts at Victoria Hall in Shipley. I have a pic of Paul & myself.
Cheers
Cedric

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,jimmy
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 02:46 PM

Les in Chorlton - Geoff Ingram now lives in Ireland.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Geoff-Ingram/1061742422

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Carole Cooper
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 08:52 PM

Jon played at Scarborough Folk Club and stayed with us for a few years. We were away when he died. Sadly missed. He did a version of Wykeham Poachers for us on old tape recorder. Anyone know where Janie is now?

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Connie
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 08:01 AM

Anybody remember Pete "Cherokee" Wills? I often wonder what happened to him.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Peter the Squeezer
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 04:21 PM

Saturdays at the White Lion, Huddersfield, around 1976.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 04:24 PM

I don't think the folk club at the White Horse in Ripon or the Maypole folk club (Barwick in Elmet then Seacroft) have been mentioned yet.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Sugwash
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 08:41 AM

I used to go to one in Tadcaster in the 70s. I've an idea it was at the White Horse near both Smiths breweries, John Smith's and the good one, Sam Smith's, but it's been a while and too much Sam's has addled my memory.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Scorpio
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 05:22 AM

Oh my God! Drowning in nostalgia. Now an ex-pat (which does not mean I used to be an Irishman), talk of Leeds folk clubs in the 70's and Sam Smith's ale brings a tear to the eye.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 08:01 AM

Talking about Ripon and Harrogate there used to be a bloke called Les Pope who ran a string of clubs in that area during the sixties. I used to meet up with him at The Royal Turf, Felling on Tyne on Saturday nights as he was usually up in the North East at a weekend.

Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Sugwash
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 08:41 AM

There was one at the Armytage Arms on Clifton Common near Brighouse (or Brigus to the locals). Me and my mate got there early one week and was engaged in conversation by a strange but interesting bloke in a floppy cap. Turned out it was that night's guest, Peter Bellamy, the first time I saw him; a memorable evening. Can't remember who ran the club though. Another guest that sticks in the mind was Hawg's Folly, an unaccompanied trio (it been the days before accapella had arrive on these shores) who sang Elizabethan madrigals amongst other things.