BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?

Subject: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 02:48 PM

Anyone got a notion as to how I can convert all my CDs to 12" vinyl?

Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 03:14 PM

You are such a star, Seamus! This is why I love mud people.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: mousethief
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 04:32 PM

You need the machine that will melt or cut a playable groove into vinyl. They may have machines these days that are affordable to the home enthusiast but I'd very much doubt it. Maybe affordable to a small-time operation record company.

Here is a starter kit that starts at about €3,200.00 (not including turntable).

This one clocks in at AUD$17,995.00.

Here is a list of companies that press vinyl records, although it doesn't say if they do onesy-twosies or larger lots only.

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Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: maeve
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 05:19 PM

Let me know when you find one, Seamus.

maeve

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Melissa
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 05:22 PM

will it work the same way as running a sausage grinder backward to make pigs?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:15 PM

I think so!

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: gnu
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:23 PM

Make a Viagra solution to apply to the CDs?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:53 PM

But if you do that, they still won't have the analog sound. I think once they've been digitized, they lose all of the texture that make analog recordings sound so much better than CDs.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: mousethief
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:56 PM

I'm not so sure. Back well before CD's were a blip on the horizon (mid to late 70s IIRC), record producers were recording master tapes digitally to then cut analogically into the vinyl. I don't remember anybody complaining at the time -- then again I didn't read any highfalutin' hi-fi mags either.

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Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 07:57 PM

I just ordered a nifty little mixer for connecting a turntable to a computer. You can run the turntable directly through the mixer, so you don't need an amplifier. It's built in to the mixer. It has a ton of controls in the softward for trying to get the best sound. I got it primarily to burn old cassettes onto CDs before they deteriorate too badly. It's in the mail, and once I get it if it does a good job and is user friendly I'll post more information on a new thread. It only costs $59.95, which will be a steal if it works well.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: mousethief
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 08:05 PM

Jerry the OP asks for a way to go the other direction.

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Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 10:15 PM

Jerry, I've got one of them too. It's the reverse thingie I was thinking of..
Melissa is close, but I'd like to talk to CarolC about getting an analog sound back into a digital pig.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 10:28 PM

Seamus, you have a digital pig?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: mousethief
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 10:33 PM

Schroedinger's pig - before you open the box, it's digital. Once you open it, it's analog.

O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 10:50 PM

Well, I don't know about Cd's to vinyl, but here's a link to a free download, that takes audio files, from radio, vinyl, or cassettes, and turns them to digital, so you can make CD's or MP3's out of them...and it's free. I've had mine for quite a while!

http://download.cnet.com/Audiograbber/3000-2140_4-10262582.html

Regards, GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 11:02 PM

I think (according to Schroedinger) as long as the pig is still in the box, it is both analog and digital.

So there's your answer, Seamus. Leave the pig in the box.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 01:47 AM

"Schroedinger's pig - before you open the box, it's digital. Once you open it, it's analog."

Actually once you open the box, it's bacon. So, depending on whether it's breakfast time or not....

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Melissa
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 01:58 AM

Has anybody tried one of those converter gadgets designed to make pigs digital/analog compatible?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: mousethief
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 02:00 AM

A swineverter? You have to get a good one -- the off brands tend to have a noticeable high-pitched squeal.

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Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 02:39 AM

You guys need lose the pig. It is a seriously flawed proposition.

What we need is a legitimate channelling clairvoyant to resurrect all the dead performers, get him/her into studio adapted appropriately to the artist's respective time record on tracks because you will have to use the same clairvoyant to channel performers who worked together. Put the tracks together and repress to vinyl format.

Simples!

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Melissa
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 02:48 AM

Would it save steps to have the clairvoyant channel the artists directly into the vinyl?


..that way, I think maybe the records could be played backward to make artists.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: scouse
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 06:25 AM

Right!!! that's me I had enough, gonna start singin' "I'm walking backwards to Christmas" in the vain hope I find sanity.'nough said!!

As Aye,

Phil.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Will Fly
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 06:57 AM

Sorry Phil - when you signed up to Mudcat, you should have read all the clauses. You'll find there ain't no sanity clause...

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 07:03 AM

A pig on a log? Can't see it working myself. Wouldn't it keep falling off?

DeG

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 11:14 AM

The analog version is probably going to be a pig in a poke.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 12:31 PM

Song:
"Like a pig on a log,
Like a drunk in a midnight bog..."

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: frogprince
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 01:27 PM

...I have tried
to make vinyl
from CDs...

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 01:57 PM

Surely the schrodinger's pig in a box question depends on whether you light the gas burner in the box.
As for the vinyl transfer, your first step is to train a suitable dog to sit and stare into the horn of the grammar phone whilst you wind it backwards...
Quack!
Geoff the Duck.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: CarolC
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 02:06 PM

Higgledy Piggledy
Seamus O'Kennedy
Wanted to marry his
Digital pig.


"Give me the rights to my
Porcineosexual
Orientation you
Self-righteous prig."

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 04:47 PM

Wow! It's Double-dactyl Chick!
I haven't seen her in a pig's age.

Porcineosexual? Beautiful, Carol.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: CarolC
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 05:17 PM

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 05:33 PM

I find the dog only works with shellac!

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Mr Red
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 10:11 AM

sound like a latter-day version of









the vinyl solution.


I'll get my coat...........

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 11:26 AM

Ignore that man. He's all lacquered up.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 12:22 PM

Seamus, simply buy one of the machines Jerry has bought but run it backwards. Simple, really.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 03 Feb 10 - 01:45 PM

Jeez, Rap, why didn't I think of that?
You're a genius.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: eddie1
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 02:21 AM

The wonderful by-product of this exercise is that after the conversion of CDs to LPs, 45s or, preferrably, 78s, one is left with an almost endless store of coasters for parties, BBQs etc. CDs were originally coasters until someone thought, "Let's put music on these!"

This from a man who, many many years ago was walking in the park with a girlfriend when she told him "My Mum has some 78s of a cowboy singer called Jimmy Rodgers!"
After rushing home I discovered she had four which had all been converted into flowerpot holders!!!!!

Eddie

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Gurney
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 03:34 AM

There's a thought! Why convert CDs to vinyl when you could download MP3s and turn them into plant-pot holders!

Couldn't be any harder than sandpapering a double-Bass into a violin.

Best idea yet! How about converting a Lagerphone into 12 dozen Guinness?

What could possibly go wrong?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:06 AM

There are of course numerous plugins for music producers that are designed to make pristine digital audio sound like vinyl, such as Steinberg's Grungelizer which has an interface allowing you to add different levels of surface noise (at 33/45/78 rpm), mains hum (50 or 60hz), wear on the stylus and recording date (1900-present)

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: pdq
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:53 AM

Found an old vinyl album laying around the house?

Maybe something by Shaun Cassidy or Rick Springfield?

Here is a great idea that saves space in your local landfill:

                                                             perhaps a Valentine's Day gift?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 03:59 PM

BLASTPHEMY!

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:24 PM

I have a few 78s that a friend gave me that survived after her brother used them as frisbees.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 10:26 PM

I have some wax cylinders that we used to use for candles....

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:11 PM

CDs as coasters, hhmm?
Skeet? Rearview mirror suncatchers?
If you put scotch tape over the hole, can you record over them, as with cassettes?
Tape them over the hole of an acoustic guitar so there's no feedback.

Elton John sunglasses?

Any other ideas?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:27 PM

Some people actually hang them in fruit trees around here to ward off birds. I think mostly in cherry trees, but I couldn't swear to it.

I made a couple of those bowls when I was a kid. One of them was see-through red. Mom made sure I didn't use anything that was special. We still have a lot of 78s, as does my sister.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:31 PM

78s are harder to make into bowls, Kat. They usually break into arrowheads.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Melissa
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 11:35 PM

I went to a PowWow where one of the dancers had a cd in the center of his bustle..

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: eddie1
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 11:03 AM

To hear what real music sounds like, try this.

Madame Pamita

Click on Music Room and then "Madame Pamita's Waxworks".

Only recorded last year but on equipment from the 1890s!

I think I'm in love!! Move over Emmylou!

Eddie

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 11:32 AM

"I went to a PowWow where one of the dancers had a cd in the center of his bustle.. "

That's great, Melissa. A wonderful idea!

I used to work in a fabric store, and one day a mother and son came in because he had been told to make 'an Indian costume.' He listened, fascinated, as I told him about the old pow-wow costumes with 'jingles' made from the tops of cans and rattles made from aluminum salt shakers.

Now CD's undergo transmogrification.
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I don't sense any difference between the sound quality of vinyl and of CD's. And my hearing is acute. Is this a case of The Emperor's New Clothes?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: mousethief
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 11:37 AM

Is this a case of The Emperor's New Clothes?

I think so. Although my hearing is far from acute. I think people miss the crackle and hum. Now I have also heard there is a difference between a solid state and a tube-fired amplifier. But I've never heard the latter so I am not in a position to judge.

O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:16 PM

My hearing is acute also, and I definitely hear a difference. But maybe I was listening to stuff that was recorded before they started digitizing even the stuff that ended up on vinyl when I made my comparisons.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Melissa
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:21 PM

leeneia-When I was a kid, tin-cone jingles were made from Skoal lids.


I hear a difference in sound between the two but it's more like the way it tastes to my ear than something I'd try to describe as a Sound thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:23 PM

When you say, "the way it tastes to my ear", are you talking about the way the vibrations feel in your ear?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Melissa
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:31 PM

no, Carol..I would have called that 'the way it feels' in my ear and I guess saying 'taste' is kind of weird but it's what I mean--I almost said 'flavor'..but that didn't seem accurate at the time.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:52 PM

I feel like I might know what you're talking about, Melissa, because I experience things in my ear that I wouldn't describe as sound, either, but I also don't know how they might be described.

One thing that I do use to describe how I experience analog (real analog), is texture and having air or an atmosphere. To me, digital is flat, thin, and airless, and analog has texture, depth, and air.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Melissa
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:58 PM

Sort of like the difference between water and distilled water, Carol?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 10:42 PM

Hmm... I actually like the taste of distilled as compared to most tap water, but I think I get your meaning. I guess I would use a cartoon like Yogi Bear, as compared to a Monet painting. This is just in regard to the flatness, etc of it and not the quality of the work that is being reproduced in sound.

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Melissa
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 10:46 PM

ha..sort of like Polaroidville in the Stephen King story called 'Sundog' (or something like that)

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Skivee
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 03:56 PM

Seamus, if you play your stereo really loudly into this, it will probably do the trick
Don't thank me. It's my pleasure

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 06:03 PM

Skivee, that's a joke, right?

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 06:25 PM

The needles should be cactus, not bamboo!

~ Becky in Tucson

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 06:33 PM

They also make this variety -- not a joke!

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 06:53 PM

Now those are definitely KOOOWALL!!! I want one, I really do. Hmmmmm....

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 11:51 PM

Skivee - that's it!! Thank you, thank you.

Now I can get the snap, crackle and pop back into my music! Yes!

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 11:22 AM

AND you can record it at speeds like 21.27 RPM!

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 07 Feb 10 - 09:57 PM

Everything you would need - serious commitment required!

Ross

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 03:38 PM

Thanks, Ross. I never would have believed it...

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 03:40 PM

Serious coin involved!

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 08:05 PM

Serious learning curve too - people who used to drive these machines would have put their user-friendliness up there with driving a 747 without electronic assistance - very much a hands-on process, with very little scope for electro-mechanical equivalents of the fixes and aids available in the digital realm.

Good luck!

Ross

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 11:21 PM

Yew fokes are two much. Spinning a nice lady's head all around and around and around like this. I actually tried to READ and UNDERSTAND this thread. Y'oughtta be ashamed, especially that Kennedy Man-- you know who you are.


However, I do still "seem" to know this much:

1. Ah is not gettin' digital with no damn pig. AH don;t care even who it is or who it belongs to or if it's daid or kickin.

2. Ah has a shelf-ful of vinyl looking for a good home. If only a previous storaging friend had not let the jackets get moldy, and the relatively unscathed vinyl get dusty. But they are free to a good home, as many of the titles as are wanted, and if I knew what was wanted it would be worth my time to crawl into the place where they lie, unplayed, these many years.

(2a. Ah is not even gonna look in that shelf unless somebuddy asks me reel nice to go see if their pertickler gotta-haves are in there. They're in a cold, lonely spot someone else controls, where I'd have to lay me down on a cold icy floor I cannot get up from by myself, and Ah is not kissin' THAT room's boss's ass jes' for "fun", nor goin' digital with it nohow, neither! I jes' cain't this week!!!)

3. Ah haz a nearby friend with a whole, hoarded, houseful of vinyl Ah bet is in pristine condition. If I knew what stellar, vinylized artists anyone just HAD to have, I could prolly git him to part with a few, in a good cause.

4. Mudcat has gone way past my ability to follow what the HELL most of yew are tawkin about, most of this pertickler winter-- WhatEVer! I love yew all ANYWAY, so there!

(4a. Seamus, I can goddamn well gush whenever I please, so THERE! to YOU!)

:~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Convert CDs to Vinyl?
From: mousethief
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 11:28 PM

Everything you would need - serious commitment required!

Gosh that makes me wish I had posted a link to that site.

Oh wait.

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