Pacific NW Songs online

Subject: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Stewart
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 12:58 PM

The Pacific Northwest Folklore Society has a new web page
featuring Pacific Northwest Songs
Each song features a mp3 or video, lyrics,
a picture and background information.

This is a new project to collect and present
songs that directly relate to the
history, people and places of the Pacific NW.
Several mudcatters are featured here:
songs by Mary Garvey (mg) and Matt Moeller (chantymatt),
singing by Bob Nelson (Deckman) and myself (Stewart)
among others.

We welcome any comments and suggestions.

Cheers, S. in Seattle

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 01:23 PM

Stewart-

The new website looks very well thought out.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: mousethief
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 02:04 PM

Excellent idea and well executed! Makes me proud to be a PNW folkie.

My suggestions for additional songs: Any of the Woody Guthrie songs about the Columbia and other rivers would be welcome. I don't know how "folkie" counts as folk or how far NW counts as PNW but there's an excellent song sung by Gordon Bok ("The Wreck of the Green Cove") about hauling logs out of Vancouver BC -- I love to hear it and sing it because I've actually sailed most of the route they took.

O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 02:09 PM

i THINK the problem with some of the songs you mentioned would be copywrite but perhaps someone could address this or Stewart and Bob could say if they are only looking for songs that people either wrote themselves or gave express permission too..I am not sure of these preferences. mg

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Stewart
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 02:36 PM

Mary, most of the songs posted so far are either in the public domain with permission of the singer, original songs with permission of the author and singer, or tracks of songs that have been released on CD with permission of the producer of the CD. We can't, of course, rip songs off CDs without permission, or post original songs without permission of the author and singer. If we make a mistake and someone objects, we will certainly remove the song from our web site (much like mudcat does).

Any submissions we would consider have to relate directly to the Pacific NW - its history, people, and places. Those submitting songs should check and explain any copyright and permission issues. Copyright issues also pertain to pictures, although these may be harder to define. Most from Wikipedia are either in the public domain or under "Creative Commons licenses." And photos from US Government agencies are in the public domain.

We can't afford to pay any copyright or licensing fees. We view this as a free sharing of songs where everyone agrees.

Cheers, S. in Seattle

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 02:58 PM

There's some wonderful songs & videos on the site. It's a great resource and just plain fun.

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Stewart
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 03:00 PM

"and just plain fun"

Yes, that's what we want.

Thanks, S. in Seattle

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Deckman
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 03:27 PM

Stew ... what you are doing is simply wonderful. The quality, and quantity is amazing. Thanks for all your efforts, Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 03:55 PM

Amen to that!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: KT
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:09 PM

Stewart, this is wonderful! Well done! And very enjoyable!

KT (another pacific nor'wester!)

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Genie
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 08:39 PM

Great site, Stewart. It does seem to be a bit heavily loaded on Washington so far, with a bit of BC thrown in, but maybe we can get some Oreganos to contribute (and does Idaho count too?).

I can think of a few other NW artists who could make great additions to the site, including Kate Power and Steve Einhorn, the late Jinx Davis, Bill Murlin & Sandy Bly, Linda Waterfall, Matt Price, William Pint and Felicia Dale, Jonathan Lay, Meryle Korn, Jim Portillo, Flip Breskin and Zeke Hoskin,* Bruce Baker, and Betsy Wellings.

I hope the site will continue to grow and expand.

Genie





*"Walla Walla Waltz" really should be incuded!
And, heck, even our own California boy Amos wrote a blues for MAG called "Walla Walla Woman Blues!"

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 10:15 AM

Stewart-

So would you welcome a set of Cicely Fox Smith poems recently adapted for singing, set in the Pacific Northwest? They are certainly not traditional songs but since they were composed in the early 1900's, they provide rich detail of what the world was like in Victoria, Vancouver, Steveston Village, and off Cape Flattery.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 11:26 AM

Stewart, et al:

I have not been privileged to spend much time in your region in recent years, but the greater Seattle area in particular, and the great northwest in general has always contained a great trove of regional song and story and wonderful artists through whom to interpret same. Thanks for this marvelous opportunity to share it. I didn't see Nancy Quense's name - she was a favorite of mine many years ago and, I understand, is still very active.

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 12:38 PM

I would love to see the Oregon stuff..I was thinking perhaps someone from Oregon could contactfamilies of Jinx Davis and Becky Berenson and get some of their classics..especially Becky's "Roll Willamette Roll."

Should be some Alaska stuff too and Montana..perhaps Alaska Mike can contribute one of his..and of course BC...and CA. mg

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Genie
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 12:52 PM

I will put the word out at PFS and Singtime Frolics about this website, Mary, with contact information for Stewart.

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 02:04 PM

I don't know if Idaho counts, but if it does, you could visit the website of The Idaho Songs Project. The Songs of the Month page has some gems from the Gem State, and at least a couple of them cross the border into Oregon or Washington.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Genie
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 03:55 PM

Stewart, your post at top doesn't say the songs have to be "trad" or even old.   There are some really funny parodies and silly songs about the Pac NW that have been written fairly recently. I'd think they'd fit in well.

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 04:08 PM

Right, Genie!

What immediately popped into mind are some of the songs written in a fit of whimsey by the infamous John Dwyer.

Among other things, he worked over the ferry system pretty good!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 04:10 PM

Wes Wedell has written a number of wonderful songs..in fact, I think he spent some time going around the state and finding songs to write. mg

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Deckman
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 04:47 PM

I think I've lived LONG ENOUGH

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Deckman
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 04:53 PM

Please erase the above comment ... I pushed to the wrong button ... AGAIN. I meant to say ...

I think I've lived long enough that I'm going to be going through my 5th "FOLKSCARE" ... at least as it pertains to the Pacific Northwest.

There are monumental efforts and events on the horizon. Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Stewart
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 05:45 PM

A few responses to the above posts:

The songs don't necessarily need to be trad or old
They can be more recent or newly composed
But they should directly relate to the PNW
Songs that tell a story (ballads) are best

Yes, I'd consider Idaho and Montana as PNW
Alaska and Oregon, of course
as well as Washington and BC

Charley Nobel - I think one of your C. Fox Smith songs
would be fine, as it relates to the PNW

I'd rather have songs sung by regional singers
Doesn't have to be a polished singer, but should
be fairly well done. You don't have to record
with studio or CD quality -
a good mp3 recording is fine
or a youtube-type video (mpeg-4 format preferred)

I can only work on a few submissions per week.
so don't flood me with multiple submissions.
Depending on how many I receive, be patient,
it may take a while to post them. And I will
make the final decision. The list will grow slowly.

You will have to do your own recording or
obtain recordings from others (with their permission)
include the lyrics, a photo and as much background info as you can,
and as much copyright information as you can, and permissions.

You can PM me on mudcat or contact me via the PNWFS web page.

Cheers, S. in Seattle

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 05:55 PM

Note to Deckman:

Go ahead and tell them. I'll make it up to you somehow.

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Deckman
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 05:56 PM

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 09:47 AM

Another couple of songs that come to mind include:

Wreck of the Lady Washington by Micki Perry, © 1991, recording by Pint & Dale as well as Roll & Go (2010)

Snap the Line Tight by Vic Bell, © SOCAN, as recorded by:

James Keelaghan:         "Timelines"                 Calgary Alberta 1987
Fraser Union:                "Split Shift"                 Vancouver B.C. 1989
Natural Elements:         "Winter Moon"                 Vancouver B.C. 1990
Tom Lewis:                 "Sea-Dog See Dog?"         Salmo B.C. 1990
Fraser Union:                 "Hello, Stranger"         Vancouver B.C. 1991
Hank Cramer:                "West By Northwest"         Aberdeen Washinton U.S.A. 1996
The Roaring Forties:        "Shore Leave"                 Mt Kuring-Gai N.S.W. Australia 1996
Hogeye Navvy                "Pirate! One"                Beech Grove Indiana U.S.A. (2005)

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Genie
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 03:55 PM

DK if any recordings of this song are up at your website, Stewart, but the song really should be included:
Pleasant And Delightful: Seattle

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Stewart
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 04:44 PM

Pleasant And Delightful Seattle is already there.

I also just posted 3 songs by Linda Allen

Cheers, S, in Seattle

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: mg
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 04:52 PM

I am thinking...we are doing a little mini-concert down in Ilwaco on March 12 and perhaps we could harvest some there...

Also, hope you guys take little recorders to your event this weekend (I might be passing through after all noonish on Saturday) and collect some...

And I will put the word out at Fisher Poets. In fact, I hope to make up a few little flyers..some great stuff, especially from Alaska. mg

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: mg
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 08:14 PM

It looks like I can stop by briefly on Saturday as I will be in the area. Bob knows the details. mg

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Genie
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 10:28 PM

How about the Geoduck song?

Subject: RE: Pacific NW Songs online
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 11:59 PM

I have this traced, and will come back to it this weekend and see if I can add anything.

Maggie