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Name for new early music duo

katlaughing 01 Mar 10 - 08:59 PM
Liz the Squeak 02 Mar 10 - 03:19 AM
Stower 02 Mar 10 - 05:43 AM
bubblyrat 02 Mar 10 - 07:14 AM
katlaughing 02 Mar 10 - 10:58 AM
Hamish 02 Mar 10 - 11:11 AM
katlaughing 02 Mar 10 - 12:47 PM
MGM·Lion 02 Mar 10 - 01:15 PM
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GUEST,henryp 03 Mar 10 - 06:57 AM
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Nicholas Waller 03 Mar 10 - 09:12 AM
Stower 03 Mar 10 - 01:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 08:59 PM

(Something???) Rides, Again! (ala Lone Ranger Rides Again)Okay, it's lame.:-)Some more really lame (hey! when you brainstorm, everything gets thrown in the mix!)**bg**:

Vintage Time Shares

Ye Olde Music with Two

Bombast Galore!

MedRenBar, Oh My! *groan*


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 03:19 AM

I like Hearts Ease - plus you have a ready made motif to decorate your costume and instrument bags with.

The Early Byrds is good too, but my immediate thought was - where's the worm? Do you play the serpent at all?

Baroque of Ages?

Colyn Cleaver and the Crumhorns? (as in Young Colyn, cleaving of a beam...)

You could go the Actor's way and have 'Mr Stower's Troupe

If you have anyone who sells double glazing you could be Mr Stower's Troop o' doors.....

(sorry.. I'll get me cloak)

LTS


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Stower
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 05:43 AM

I'm having a really good laugh with all these names! Thank you again.

katlaughing, I do like the XXX Rides Again idea, also something around Vintage. Vintage Voices or Vox Vintage? But we'll be doing approx. half songs and half dance tunes. Part of the idea is to play with gusto and original arrangements, getting away from the idea of classically trained players playing clinically (not that they all do, by any means, but early music can have that image - but listen to The Dufay Collective - wow ...). Is there a 'v' word that conveys newness and freshness to put alongside Vintage?

Liz, there's only two of us, so it might be a bit disappointing to an audience if we call ourselves XXX Troupe! Mind you, I used to see a fantastic blues guitarist, drummer, harmonica player and singer - he played them all simultaneously! - called The Little Big Band. I wonder what happened to him? I digress ...

Some of these suggestions are so good and funny that I'm wondering if, when we start out, we could use some of these search-for-a-name suggestions in our act.   

I'm so very grateful. Any more for more?


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: bubblyrat
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 07:14 AM

The Stower Ways


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 10:58 AM

Va-Va Vintage!:-)

Stower & ?? Ride, Again?

Vintage Vox & Pluck?

Pluck & Crow?

Melodious Masters?

(Something) out of time?

Anachronous Melodious?

Vintage Harmonious?

(I love the online Thesaurus!:-)

Vox-A-Tune?


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Hamish
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 11:11 AM

Something with "Knights" in?

The Early Knights
The Late Knights (a bit macabre, maybe)
The Green Knights
The Shining Knights
The Dirty Knights
etc


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 12:47 PM

From my sleepless night:

Flageolet (as in Camelot:-) I know it's not always pronounced that way.)

Old Music - Present Tense

What Once Was - Music of Old

Duo-ling (something ala "Dueling Banjos")


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 01:15 PM

Hey now, Kat ~ not asking for a bit of flageolet-shun are you?

Chocciebar


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 03:08 PM

Oh, never!*bg*

kitkat


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 06:57 AM

Da Capo


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Crane Driver
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 07:12 AM

You're playing with gusto?

How about 'Mr Gusto's Maggot'?


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: bubblyrat
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 07:27 AM

No ,please !! Lady Winwoods Maggot was bad enough !!(with apologies to the multi-talented Dave Lambert of the eponymous group !).


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Nicholas Waller
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 09:12 AM

@Hamish Something with "Knights" in?

Knights in White Satin?
Somer Knights?

Actually, "The New Early Music Duo" as per your thread title would work too, in a does-what-it-says-on-the-tin way.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Stower
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 01:49 PM

Not to stop any more suggestions, and not to discount any that have been made so far, but here are my favorites so far.

What do you think of these?
What would you give them out of 10?
Do these names spark any new ideas?

Mrs Winter's Jump
Heart's Ease
Hartes ease (Anthony Holborne's spelling)
Howlin' Beowulf
The Early Byrds
XXX Rides Again (XXX = ?)
Da Capo
Mr Gusto's Maggot

How about ...
The 500
... since we're playing music from the 13th to 17th centuries?

Thanks again.

Stower :-)


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: frogprince
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 02:21 PM

The Minstrels of Yore

Tfhe Buskers of Yore

The Now Minstrels of When


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 03:02 PM

Heart's ease or Heartsease - still my favourite by far.

Hartes' ease is also good, but you'll get fed up having to spell it out to people all the time.

Howlin Beowulf sounds like a blues band.

Early Byrds sounds like you're talking about the original The Byrds band.

The Maggot one is just plain horrible! :)


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Stower
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 05:15 PM

Having thought about it for a bit, I like Da Capo more and more, as it has all the right connotations: it's a musical term, and we're going back to the beginning of known western music. And it's short and easy to remember. Thanks, GUEST,henryp, for suggesting it.

What does anyone else think?


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Tradsinger
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 06:18 PM

Our medieval band is called "Waytes and Measures", but you can't have that.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: GUEST,clumper
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 10:51 PM

Seeing as "Mediaeval Baebes" already works very successfully for one well established band;

"Mediaeval Beefcaek" !!???


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 11:22 PM

Da Capo is short and all, but it might mean nothing to most folks if they don't know music that well. Over here it sounds like someone with a New York/New Joisey(Jersey)accent (no offence NY&NJers!) Actually, it reminds me of the mafia in that over here the "godfather" might be addressed as "Da Capo" as in "The Head." Just my take on it.:-)

As to the others, not being familiar with the songs, they are not really indicative to me of what your duo would be unless I had more material to read or listen to.

Not meaning to sound biased, but maybe combine Da Capo with Rides Again or one of the others with it?

If you want to use "500" why not get fancy and use "The Quingenti Duo?" Or, "Rise of the Quingenti?" Or "Quingenti Rides Again," though I don't think that is as descriptive as the QD...ah! Great acronym for it!

I think "The Quingenti Duo" sounds like something from one or all of those eras, plus it sounds classy without being snobby, esp. if you use "QD" as a familiar reference.

Thanks, again, for the fun of this!

kat


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 12:43 AM

Hopefully you won't wear tights and call yourself something like Nutmeg and Ginger. Wouldn't go over in Sheffield.

How about something memorable (by the way I liked The Black Death Minstrels..loads of fun at a retirement home!)

is Chanticleer taken? That has a nice ring to it.

The Canterbury Wails

Plantagenet

The Helm Cleavers

Hardcore Troubadores

Hamlet's Merkin


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 12:48 AM

Da Capo was a record album by the late 60s band Love, by the way.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 12:54 AM

Something Shakespearean: how about

Concord of Sweet Sounds ~ The Merchant of Venice V.i.84


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 02:17 AM

Chanticleer is taken as far as over here goes...but they do have an international rep.

Wish we could think of something as kewl as "Moxy Früvous!"


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Stower
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 04:21 AM

Ooo, Tradsinger, Waytes and Measures, I do like that.

I'm beginning to realise that, as with Nutmeg and Ginger and with Da Capo, it may well be the case that no matter how suitable a name is in one context, it may be unsuitable in another. And naming ourselves after a tune is fine for those who know the tune and its associations, but we may have to assume that most people won't. But in that case, won't we just end up with a name that's nondescript and bland? Hhhhmmmppphhh.

If only we'd thought of Waytes and Measures first. That's just too clever and too good :-)

Mind you, the meaning of Waytes and Measures is only clear if one knows about music history and musical language. The same could be said of other existing bands: Piva, Golliard, The Dufay Collective, etc. Maybe we're thinking *too* much and should just come up with a name that has early music associations and is memorable? Lots of words and phrases have different meanings in different contexts. If people see our name next to a picture of us - as many would in a programme or on a poster - the intended word association would be implied even if unknown to the viewer.

Keep it going, please! This has turned out to be great fun! We *will* arrive at a name!


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Stower
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 04:46 AM

OK, coming back for another go. Here's a list of tunes we may (or may not, at this stage) put in our repertoire, that may also be used as a name for the duo. Heart's Ease has already been mentioned (some like it, others don't), there is also:

Robinson's May
Traditora
Tarleton's Resurrection
The Night Watch
Bara Faustus' Dream
Lady Clifton's Spirit
Praeludium
Wilson's Wild

What do you think?


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Smedley
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 05:02 AM

The Night Watch is the best of those.

A lot of the suggestions made so far are in-jokes for those who already know something about this kind of music, whereas you'll be playing mostly to audiences who don't, so it would be better to avoid sounding twee and/or smug.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Piers Plowman
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 06:44 AM

The Rude Mechanickals


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Piers Plowman
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 06:52 AM

You know, you can always change the name if you decide you don't like it, or if you find one that's better. I don't think using "duo" in the name is a problem; if someone else joins, you could just change it to "trio". I think two people isn't a "band" or a "consort".

I don't know what the rules are on band names. If you're far away from New England, does it matter if a band there is called "Heart's Ease"? I suppose in the era of MySpace and YouTube, there might be a problem, though.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Dave Hunt
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 07:39 AM

I was about to suggest Waits and Measures - having both song and dance connotation - but see above that there is already a Waytes and Measures - Shame!

If there we three of you you could be Trio con Brio!"
Dave Hunt


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: bubblyrat
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 08:04 AM

Acker Peller

The Crumb Hounds

   









Duo Much ?

Los Primitivos

   Artie Shawm


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: bubblyrat
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 08:07 AM

Rebeckers Loot


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 08:57 AM

Millenium Consort

Going For Baroque

The Jongleurs

Share A Cup of Mead


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 10:01 AM

I like Traditora best of those on your list.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Piers Plowman
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 10:36 AM

I was going to suggest Isengrim, but there's a Finnish black metal band with that name at MySpace. Since you're a duo, you could call yourself "Reynard and Isengrim" (if you really wanted to), or use one of the other spellings.

This is difficult. Have you considered playing some other kind of music?


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: GUEST,clumper
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 11:10 AM

"The Twobadours"..   {The 2badours]

well, you're an early music duo.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: GUEST,clumper
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 11:36 AM

"The 2roubadours"

looks well odd to our old eyes, but I've been assured by a phone texting obsessed teeenager
that it would be easily understood by most potential school kids audiences.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Smedley
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 11:58 AM

Sort of, but wouldn't they pronounce it "two-rou-badors" which sounds a bit like something a circus ringmaster might shout.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 12:21 PM

"The True-Bar-Doers" ~~ Hmmm, well, maybe not. But then again··········


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Stower
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 12:38 PM

Piers Plowman: "This is difficult. Have you considered playing some other kind of music?" Tehehe!

To summarise and help me, could I ask anyone who fancies it to mark these potential names out of 10, where 10 = I like this so much you should use it and 0 = don't use this ever.

Mrs Winter's Jump
Heart's Ease
XXX Rides Again (XXX = ?)
Da Capo
Mr Gusto's Maggot
Robinson's May
Traditora
Tarleton's Resurrection
The Night Watch
Bara Faustus' Dream
Lady Clifton's Spirit
Wilson's Wild

Cheers all,

Stower


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Smedley
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 12:47 PM

OK, my scores would be:


Mrs Winter's Jump   - 7 (it's memorable)

Heart's Ease - 5 (OK but veering towards the fey)

XXX Rides Again (XXX = ?) - 1 (audiences will expect cowboys)

Da Capo   - 2 (the audience will expect you to be Italian)

Mr Gusto's Maggot - 8 (it's memorable & more so than no.1)

Robinson's May - 3 (vague & wispy)

Traditora - 2 (sounds like an obscure foliage plant)

Tarleton's Resurrection   - 6 (memorable but quasi-religious)

The Night Watch - 9 (snappy & no trace of the twee)

Bara Faustus' Dream - 3 (arch leaning towards whimsical)

Lady Clifton's Spirit - 5 (OK but there are better)

Wilson's Wild   - 5 (alliteration always good but lots of bad joke risks)


And that concludes the votes of the Luxembourg jury.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 01:35 PM

Mynsters Mynstrels


Reminds me when I went to York, came out of York Minster, went into the market house, where there was an medieval market going on. Upstairs were the musicians, selling their music and hand made instruments. Everyone was dressed in character. It was just GREAT! :0)

Oh, here you are...it was called
The Barley Hall


York - National Centre for Early Music


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 01:37 PM

Or even....

Mynstyrs Mynstryls ;0)


By the way, I forgot to say, there are some superb names in here! :0)


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 03:13 PM

None of them is any of my brilliant suggestions so I give them ALL Absolute·Zero·Minus·Googol & am Off Down The Garden 2 Eat WORMS ~~~ so there! SULK!!! & perhaps I'll die n then ule B sorry! buhuhuhu·····


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: GUEST,Murray on Saltspring
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 03:29 PM

What about the name of a dance/tune from way back when? There's some good suggestions above, but try e.g. Passamezzo, Romanesca, etc.?


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 07:57 PM

Harmonic Convergence?


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Stower
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 08:28 PM

GUEST,Murray on Saltspring, you asked, "What about the name of a dance/tune from way back when?"

9 of the 12 names on my post of 04 Mar 10 - 12:38 PM are just that!

Thanks, Smedley, and MtheGM for your votes, marked out of 10. Anyone else for that?

The Night Watch, Mr Gusto's Maggot, and Mrs Winter's Jump are so far in 1st, 2nd and 3rd place. Anyone else want to agree or otherwise?

Stower


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Stower
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 08:35 PM

The above post should have read ...

Thanks, Smedley, and MtheGM (ahem!) for your votes, marked out of 10. Anyone else for that?

I put my (ahem!) in these brackets < > not ( ) but it disappeared!? And so did my intended witticism with it. And now explaining that I feel very silly ...


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 09:48 PM

Your '(ahem)' fully, & witticism highly if belatedly, appreciated; so worry not. Angle brackets on here, I discovered quite early on, work only for html instructions; otherwise, as you discovered, the contents vanish: ~~ use [ or { or ( instead, as you found. So all-in-all, wot with ignoring the most cogent suggestions [mine!] & not knowing how to use brackets, 'silly' is just about wot u deserved to feel, aren't it (see the ongoing 'Misuse Of Grammar In Lyrics' thread!)

& now back down garden for more worms'n'sulks! & add another couple of googols to power of my NO votes, please ~~~ in ♠♠♠.


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Subject: RE: Name for new early music duo
From: Piers Plowman
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 02:35 AM

The Whyggles

Your child's first Renaissance consort.


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