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Subject: Mudcat censorship From: Continuity Jones Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:35 PM Hello all, Mudcat eh? Censorship eh? I enjoy reading this forum, but personally enjoy it less so when people talk of banning members or removing posts - but then every now and then there's a poster or a post I do think should be banned or removed - and I don't just mean the obvious spam. For me, the personal grudges and old wounds reopened make fascinating reading. I find that the internet somehow makes people very quick to be extremely aggressive and extremely rude - this entertains me both on a base level 'ha ha' way and also in a pseudo-anthropological 'how curious' manner. I guess it's the same as road-rage, in a way - in that, people are in their cars, surrounded by their things so take it personally when people do something which annoys their feelings. But where should the bans / censorship start / stop? Spam? Thread drift? Insults? Not at all? If I were to call you all a shower of shites, would the great god Joe Offer be called down to swoop? What if I just singled one person out and called them a shite? What if I implied the great prophet Mohammed's more active followers were bodhran players at the session of life? Should this thread be banned? Honestly? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: Leadfingers Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:44 PM Consistency of Moderation is all that is required |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:50 PM Moderate Moderation in all Moderators who are Moderating could be a Mode to mumble about....or not... :0) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: GUEST,Big Ballad Singer Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:50 PM Personally, I feel as though anyone who wades into many of the non-music discussions should have their big boy/girl pants on and be prepared to encounter the spectrum of IQs, attitudes, political views etc that are bound to be represented anywhere where free and open discussion is allowed and encouraged. I don't, however, think that what Joe or anyone else does is censorship per se. I think the moderators know many of the long-time members here pretty well (in terms of knowing what they are likely to say or how they might react) and I think the moderators do an admirable job of staving off many potential disasters in threads that are, admittedly, volatile to begin with. In my experience reading here over many years, I have learned that if you don't want a light on, you don't throw the switch. Come into the discussions prepared to perhaps be the only poster of your persuasion, be a human about it, and you're not likely to be bludgeoned to death. Feed trolls or bring intellectual knives to mental gunfights, and God speed you to the bottom of the sea, 'cause that's where you and the discussion are headed for sure. Regards, BBS |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:52 PM Boy! Could I have fun replying to this one!!!!!!! Continuity Jones, I see in your post, that insights into people's behavior, and such, is in your interest.....I like that...somewhat of the 'impartial observer'...and not getting all pissy. I was going to call you a bunch of the usual caustic inappropriate, often non-applicable names, used by the the usual bunch of politically brain-dead, and spiritual malnourished, just for fun...but instead, I'd just like to say, that your post is refreshing. Joe Offer, though, in my humble opinion, has been pretty fair...even if he has removed, or edited s few of mine. Sometimes, one could see that a little 'dry wit' is not appreciated, especially if you're the butt of it....and sometimes I've bordered on being a little coarse, but all in all, Joe has been fair. I hope my post didn't disappoint you, if you were looking for a skirmish......we can do that.... Regards, GfS |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: GUEST,999 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:52 PM Does anyone know what the H stands for in the expletive `Jesus H Christ` (question mark). I don`t want to detract from the thread topic but I`d sure like to know. Thanking you in anticipation of not being told to fuck off. Yer friend, Oswald. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: wysiwyg Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:54 PM CJ, by your posting history I see you'se new in these parts. You'll learn. :~) ~Friendly Tip |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: Rapparee Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:55 PM Herman. He was given that middle name after the first name of my great-grandfather. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: PoppaGator Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:57 PM I feel much the same way as Continuity Jones, the OP here. I don't take any of this stuff personally, and am amused by those who do. Not to imply any criticism of Joe, et. al. ~ their job is not one that I would seek (nor that I would be well-suited for), but they do the job quite well, as far as I can see. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:58 PM SHIT!!! This one is loading up fast!....When I first saw it, Jones was the only one posted. By the time finished typing, four more had posted. Then I checked the post, and two more.....I wonder how many more maggots will climb on board!..by the time I finish this one...we'll see...... GfS |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: GUEST,999 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:59 PM Thanks, Rap. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:00 PM Jesus Herman Christ... Hmmm....... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: JHW Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:00 PM I thought we weren't allowed to discuss Mudcat on Mudcat? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: GUEST,999 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:01 PM GfS: I have a serious fuckin`question here and you ain`t helpin`too much, ya know (question mark). |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:04 PM We're not. We're discussing Censorship...er..on...er.... Shhhhh, don't say that else Joe will wake up and go "ROARRRRRRR!" then pick his red phone up, and all the Immoderate Moderators will start going "ZAPZIPZOP!" and WE'll disappear into the ether, with only the merest remnant of a scarlet trail of... "Discussion of Mudcat is NOT permitted on Mudcat!" ...blowin' in the wind... -------------Your wish is our command.... Shazzam......JoeClone |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: Leadfingers Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:07 PM It would be really useful if there was a built in Troll Alarm ! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat censorship From: Becca72 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:18 PM According to an internet search: The H stands for Harold, as in, "Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name" :-)
-Joe Offer- |
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Subject: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: DonMeixner Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:33 PM OK How come the thread was closed? Very funny if ironic humor was the intent. I laughed out loud and the folks in my office looked at me strangly. I rarely drift into this side of the forum. I find much of the postings to be of little value to me but a posting on censorship always will. As I view the only censorship of worth is self censorship. And perhaps censorship driven by good manners. Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: Continuity Jones Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:42 PM That's hilarious! Half the posts were zapped immediately then the entire thread was closed. Good work! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: GUEST,number 6 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:44 PM censored |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: Bill D Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:14 PM "The thread"?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: gnu Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:26 PM What thread? I looked but I couldn't find it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: Bobert Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:04 PM It's still down below, gn-z... I don't know why it got closed either??? Seems rather benign to me... And as a Follower of Christ, I really didn't mind the Jesus H Christ stuff... Actually, Beeca's last post was purdy funny... Yeah, maybe someone will explain just why that thread got closed??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: gnu Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:05 PM Ohhhh... that one. I can take a guess... personal attack (the number one don't) and childish name calling? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:06 PM I would, but.....I'm censored! ;0) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: olddude Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:35 PM Nobody does any censoring here ... to me censoring is this statement "write that again and I will reach down your miserable throat and pull your filthy heart out through your eye socket" now that is censoring ... anything else is simple civil discussion |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:43 PM Actually, the Moderator Munchkins put a really good joke in before they closed it down..made me smile.. :0) Take a look at it, that thread's still there.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:52 PM What thread? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: Georgiansilver Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:52 PM I for one appreciate the censorship on Mudcat.... but of course there are always those who are anti anything that doesn't fit in with what they want... well tough!!!!! The censorship here is necessary.. and if you were on the receiving end of it... perhaps you should look at yourself and your motives........ accept it because it is going to happen.. and accept that the people who do it do it with the best intent. Now shut up and get on with posting!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:56 PM Here you go, McGrath....but...be *careful* what you wish for, for they have a lamp! And...it has a JoeGenie inside! ;0) The Original Thread |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: Ed T Date: 14 Jul 10 - 06:01 PM Well...to continue the discussion: According to the Urban Dictionary: jesus h christ owns the taco stand down the street. He would like people to stop asking him to cure their blindness. Even though his named is spelled the same as Jesus, Son of God, it pronounced hay-zoos. His middle inital is Hector. His father owns a garage and his mother is a nurse. He has two younger brothers. "jesus h christ make the best tacos, but he still wont cure my blindness" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Censorship-How Come From: Joe Offer Date: 14 Jul 10 - 06:12 PM OK, Don. It was explained in the last thread that we don't allow threads discussing Mudcat moderation - much of the time, we're not free to give an honest answer, so such threads just end up being havens for animosity. You won't find many forums that allow such threads, and most are far more restrictive than we are. If you want to discuss Mudcat editing policy, contact, Max, Big Mick, or me privately by personal message or by e-mail. most of it has already been explained in the FAQ. -Joe Offer- joe@mudcat.org P.S. This thread is closed. Please don't start another one. If you want to ask questions, ask me privately. |