The (Forced) New Myspace

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Jun 11 - 05:12 PM

Some good news - they've gone back to the old unlimited-plays, for all, on the profile music player.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 26 Mar 11 - 11:04 AM

From Jack's link: 'MySpace boss Mike Jones...said the site is no longer a social network and is instead an "entertainment destination"'...I suppose that's their only hope and, since I'd rather not bother building a Facebook Page (or another from the above), I, too, hope it works out that way - they are, in the end, all American capitalist companies.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Mar 11 - 07:35 AM

OK I've got the game working on FB again - but only works in Chroome, which doesn't have all the firefox plugin bells and whistles...

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Jack Campin
Date: 26 Mar 11 - 07:29 AM

Doesn't look good for them:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12862139

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 05:34 PM

Yes, but...what's the point, Wav...Myspace freezes up a great many computers...The ONLY thing they managed to do to a breathtaking standard was....bugger it all up...

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 02:56 PM

Last time I checked, with Facebook Pages most (apart from those from major record companies) have to put up with a messy URl - one remaining advantage of Myspace, and folks can link to Myspace pages (and Mudcat threads, I just noticed) via Facebook's Like.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 02:44 PM

I never used Myspace to play games...

Neither did the thousands of musicians, for which it was a wonderful shop window, a way to get the world to hear your music so easily, see your gig dates etc..

You couldn't make up what's been allowed to happen to it.

Still, at least they've got their adverts working, so I guess they've managed to fix the most important part of it, for them........

Myspace was different to FB, which is nowhere near as good for Musicians...In my book, the owners of it had a duty to the people they know used it, benefitted from it, but hey...'duty' is a dirty word these days....

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 02:27 AM

If you think MySpace is screwed.. "the people who've done what they've done to it should be hanged, drawn and quartered, then put out to dry on a "Don't ever fook up something that worked SO WELL, ever again!!" line, for all to see and be warned by" ...

I remember WebRing - bought by a certain Big Name group, they 'fixed it so well that they broke it utterly and could not work out what they had done, so THEY GAVE IT AWAY FOR FREE ... and it was fixed in a day or two ....

It still works enough to play Castle Age - and it works better than the 'new improved' Castle Age version on Farceberk, that has been also broken so well that they wont even answer the users any more ...

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 05:15 PM

WV, it's crap..Myspace that is.   It locks up everyone's computers for a start..just heard from a friend of mine and he's just bought a new computer, yet *still* it freezes up on that too...

It's utter crap..and there was no-one who championed Myspace more than me years back..I went bananas over it on the BBC board, tried to get everyone to join..

Now, it doesn't deserve to even be spat on for what they've done to it...

So many people used to love writing on there, putting their music on, their art, whatever....and now it lies in ruins, apart from the very determined, but no-one visits it like they did, so what's the point of it????

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 04:40 PM

Still prefer it how it was, but I've partly fixed the abovementioned New-Blog problem by creating CONTENTS links to all 230 of my poems/songs; if you'd like to see what I mean, here's the link - http://www.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse/blog.

And, touch wood, they seem to have gone back to the old unlimited-plays for all - whether logged-in or not.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 05:52 AM

I tried a profile again today - anyone can play a couple of tracks in full, then an option to sign-in/up (with a via-Facebook shortcut option), and, if not, there are just 30 second samples available; but (adding to the new complexity) clicking on the "MUSIC" link leads to a further 5 tracks available in full...that IS a mess in anyone's language!

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 05:29 PM

They wouldn't listen to me or any of their rapidly dwindling users...Pooft! They don't give a shite about anything other than advertising money...

The ADVERTS work instantly, the rest is buggered beyond belief! And WTF would I want adverts all over my page, which dominate everything...and WTF would I want their crappy layouts and designs?

They've broken it, good and proper...and they all deserve to be bankrupted over it, quite frankly, because of their appalling arrogance...

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 05:19 PM

...maybe they're hearing you and a flood of others, Lizzie - what I mentioned just above, about 30 second samples, seems to have been ditched, for now..?

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 12:51 PM

Myspace sucks now. It's the biggest load of twaddle going, and the people who've done what they've done to it should be hanged, drawn and quartered, then put out to dry on a "Don't ever fook up something that worked SO WELL, ever again!!" line, for all to see and be warned by...

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 05:40 AM

One of the best things about Myspace, over the years, was that anyone could sample a song or two from an artists collection, but I just noticed that folks now only get 30 second samples - unless they sing up/in to Myspace.

Also, the old jest about "MyFace" seems to be coming true, as another link allows Facebook members to quickly transfer data to Myspace, in order to hear complete tracks.

A couple of months ago, I quickly signed-up to some of the alternatives recommended above, and may be spending some time on them soon..?

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 12:15 PM

It seems that, although many no-longer bother with their own myspace account, a lot do still use myspace to check the music of artists - e.g., I just saw a profile with less than 1000 Friends, but more than 20, 000 plays today.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 12:22 PM

On the positive side, just noticed folks on Facebook can now "Like"/link-to a Myspace page, in the same way as a Facebook page - which I, for one, haven't bothered to create. Use the link atop this thread, if you wish to check.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 01:31 PM

The New Myspace Blog is definitely worse than the Old - on top of what I mentioned above, I just noticed there is no-longer a "translate" option.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Tootler
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 04:50 PM

Glad to be of help, Janie.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Fidjit
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 04:41 PM

Have just found out how to delete the "Friends" that are forced on me on Myspace.

Chas

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 08:54 AM

Thanks, Don - I've, as you say, quickly signed-up, and may put some more time into it in the future..? But the New Myspace is by no means useless, as in a couple of minutes an email can be created and posted to ALL Friends - probably with links to other sites like SoundClick.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:25 PM

Yes WAV. Soundclick make it very easy.

You upload songs, set up a shop and sell single tracks or album compilations.

There is a guide as to pricing limits, and they pay you weekly (subject to a minimum payout set by you) by PayPal.

They also make it easy for you to offer licences for sale to professionals.

I'm impressed.

I'm not sure that streaming audio actually prevents unpaid downloads, I'm going to check that personally, but at least you can limit your songs to streaming only.

Don T.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 03:52 PM

...it seems that Reverbnation and Soundclick both have an easier way of sales, for anyone turned pro - with Myspace, iTunes is still the only way, I think.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 14 Jan 11 - 08:09 PM

Being heartily sick of Myspace messing about, I've signed up to soundclick.com

A Homepage, an Artist Page with unlimited song uploads, and a shop to sell tracks and albums.

Took a quarter of the time that Myspace did to join, and it offers far more.

There's some of my stuff on there if anybody wants to listen. You'll find me on :-

http://soundclick.com/donwysiwygthompson

Don T.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Janie
Date: 14 Jan 11 - 07:12 PM

Thanks, Tootler. Now that I think of it, a couple times I also encountered that - not receiving the e-mail. Today I persisted and finally managed to shut it down. Probably would not have kept at it without your post.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Fidjit
Date: 14 Jan 11 - 03:53 PM

For those of you looking for an alternative to MYspace. You might like to look here

reverbnation

I'm fed up with Myspace and found this to be great and much, MUCH quicker.

Chas

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Fidjit
Date: 14 Jan 11 - 03:50 PM

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Tootler
Date: 14 Jan 11 - 03:42 PM

MySpace won't let me cancel my account.

I had problems like you describe, Janie. In my case, they were related to the email they send you where you have to click on a link to confirm the deletion. Twice it didn't arrive or arrived too late and they had decided I had not cancelled so I had to go through the procedure again. Eventually the email did arrive OK and I was able to complete the cancellation process.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Jan 11 - 06:52 AM

S.P: if you find your Myspace in Google or another search-engine, click on cached and the old version may still be there for you to copy/paste stuff.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Janie
Date: 14 Jan 11 - 05:22 AM

MySpace won't let me cancel my account. Been trying for weeks. At what is supposed to be the last step, it just hangs up. Any suggestions?

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 13 Jan 11 - 06:37 PM

I tried to edit my site - the new profile destroyed all my HTML etc, but it wouldn't let me. I'm not that bothered about flash graphics etc, but I would like to put back some of the basic stuff I had before. Thinking about giving it up and sticking with the website, Facebook and Soundcloud.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Jan 11 - 05:14 PM

Is anyone else unable to reply to comments on their profile at the moment? I've messaged Myspace to no avail, so far.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 08:39 AM

I just noticed that the email-templates, mentioned above, have a premium pay-for option (no doubt adding to Myspace's profits from adverts), so it's no-longer an even playing field - not even in theory; the sort of thing David Cameron would agree with Rupert Murdoch on, I suppose.

I'm glad Mudcat isn't among the sites that have gone that way - we just have to put up with adverts, of course.

Apparently Murdoch was a socialist when a student in Oxford...I wonder what his stance is on Aboriginal Australian land rights, and those of Native Americans..?

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 05:06 PM

It takes ages to load, has far too many videos, and popups. Alltogether it so OTT it hurts. I'm outta there ASAP

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 04:36 PM

Cheers, WAV - I'll have a look in the New Year.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 01:02 PM

...having used the new emailing facility for the first time to let folks know about the 2 Christmas tracks on my Profile (link atop this thread), I did get a few extra visits, emails, comments, and plays, S.

It may be worth checking the above explanatory post From: Folknacious - PM Date: 05 Dec 10 - 05:13 PM..?

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 07:40 AM

Is anyone still bothering though? I logged in the other day & couldn't make any sense of it at all - let alone know where to begin sorting out my profile - so I logged right back out again! Shame really because a lot of our contacts come in via MySpace but I just can't face it these days.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 07:12 AM

That's the thing, Matt - off-line we are okay with old systems (even back to Windows 98), but online we have to keep upgrading.

Another positive, however, is the new "FanReach" email-templates, that can be sent to all our "Friends" in one go - can't do that on free Yahoo!

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Matt Seattle
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 02:07 PM

I've now got rid of a lot of the clutter on mine and am thinking of paring it down even further, maybe by hiding some of the friends I'm 'showing off' (their words).

My main concern is expressed as
'The new myspace makes broadband slower than dial-up'

If I find it so painfully slow to load I assume others do too, and will be just as reluctant to sit staring at a page while it loads '159 out of 162 items' on what appears to be a pretty simple web page.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 01:35 PM

The new Myspace "My Stats" page is very good, to be fair - you can link it to get stats from the other two, mentioned above, plus Youtube, as well.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Dec 10 - 02:47 PM

Myspace, Facebook, Twitter, etc. are all large American capitalist companies and, whether or not we like capitalism, if we do want folks to check our work, we might as well participate in the most-used ones. There is, however, one social English-Arts-Council-backed networking site that I'm aware of and use, but it's mainly for poets - WriteOutLoud.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 09 Dec 10 - 10:14 AM

Thanks Tim. Gonna take a couple of days over Xmas to review and check out new sites, and hopefully choose one, so will look into Reverb.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Tim Chesterton
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 07:36 PM

Was it easy to complete the sections and upload music?

Sue, I found it extremely easy to use, and I'm the least tekkie of people...

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 07:18 PM

Of that I am certain.... :(

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Folknacious
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 04:26 PM

Are you saying that it's possible to get it looking exactly as it used to?

No, but now I've got the hang of it, I've found it's possible to get it looking better than it used to. Cleaner and less cluttered as you can click a lot off. But you may go doolally in the learning curve . . .

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 03:31 PM

Thanks Tim. Looks interesting (though I still yearn for the old Myspace look). Was it easy to complete the sections and upload music?

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 03:27 PM

I'm sure it's easy for those used to working with this stuff, but I'm not - bear of little brain when it comes to the tekki stuff, and get easily confused and despairing.

Might have to get someone to come and do it for me, if it's do-able. Are you saying that it's possible to get it looking exactly as it used to?

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 02:28 PM

Thanks very much, Tim.

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: Tim Chesterton
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 09:46 AM

I would highly recommend Reverbnation as an alternative for musicians (see my site here).

Subject: RE: The (Forced) New Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 09:00 AM

According to Myspace, there's no way back, Suegorgeous, but it's one of those things - once you know it's quite easy to create and arrange with.
Gutbucketeer: I've the same longer-name problem - I'm no longer "David Franks: Walkabouts Verse" but just plain old ",, Walkabouts." And, as well as the above-mentioned Blog problems, there's still no list of regions (unless you're from the U.S.), so I can't get rid of the "Please select your region" on my profile.
Otherwise, it is lighter and better in other ways - e.g., pics and videos look quite stylish and are easier to get to.