Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???

Subject: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 12:45 AM

Plastic Bertrand and his historic European pop punk crossover chart topper hit "Ça plane pour moi"

It is 'FOLK' is it not ?

Consider this; Plastic Bertrand is Belgian.
That's in Europe where we all know 'FOLK' was invented long times ago by hairy Celtic Tribes,
and maybe even before that by them stinky Neanderthal cavemen songsmiths.

Now then, "Ça plane pour moi" translates in BABEL FISH as: "That planes for moi"

Every clever cultural scholar would immediately recognise the clear reference
to one of the most significant 'FOLK' songs ever "Plains of Waterloo"

Which is the one Napoleon might even have hummed when he lost due to painful piles.

And since forever then the French sing "Chansons".

Which is what Plastic Bertrand did in the 1970's in Belgium.

Keen observers would obviously know that "Chanson" translates as something
Franco Belgian for something like 'song for smelly grandads and not cool teenagers'

which is without doubt 'FOLK' at it's most purest.

Now here is where modern forensic science proves the proposition no doubt, don't argue.

Plastic Bertrand did not sing on his own records !!!

It was some other boring foreign European type in a cardigan pretending not to be him
while much more handsome monsieur Plastic signed autographs and rogered all the dolly bird groupies on his behalf.

Yes that is right !!!, the real singer was content sitting in the studio with his pipe and slippers feeling smug
that he did not have to do all that fame nonsense.

That is 'FOLK' at it's most modern best.

Anonymous songwriterers passing and gifting their songs to other better looking people
and then on to complete fugly strangers for all time immoral

That unknown 'FOLK' singer songwriter record producer hero deserves the highest 'FOLK' medal we can honour him with
even if he is a Belgian.

It is as 'FOLK' as anything we can ever cherish in a mouldy old book or on BBC4 telly.



Next: David Johansen of "The New York Dolls" - Old Timey Country Blues singer...

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: Darowyn
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 03:59 AM

You are just being silly now.
Any fule kno that Plastic Bertrand is from Foreign.
So his song must be World Music!
Cheers
Dave

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 04:09 AM

Well plastic b. has had more folk dancing to his record than most folk dance bands.

I always thought it was too intellectual to be real folk music.

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 05:27 AM

Oh dearie dearie me, someone's got too much time on their hands over the festive period and so has decided to go creating a MudFlap.

Mind you I've always thought that New Order would have made a great ceilidh band ...

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: GUEST,Jean Jacques
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 06:52 AM

Certainment. C`est musique folklorique de premier ordre!!

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 07:38 AM

I lost the will to live half way through your thing! I gather you pose the question is it/he FOLK? Dear me, what is Folk is such an unanswerable question, as it's so many things to so many peoplw. from what I've heard of the Belgian chap, I just regard it as something I wish to hearv no more of. Far too pretentous and foreign in a franco/Belgian manner. However Folk is not without it's pretentousness,so therefore perhaps it is, But in saying maybe I am also saying to me personally, it aint

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 07:45 AM

,erbert is either trying to star an argument, or is one of those people who don't like folk music so he builds a case for what he does like being folk music, he also puts forward his opinion like it was gods word and not to be questioned.

Dave H

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 08:05 AM

yes

Harken thee to the word of erbert

your petty fragile folk world will perish under the mighty wrath of Plastic Bertrand..

Forever more the surviving spawn of your loins

will very very forever after sing punk folk in funny foreign accents

And all will be dark on the lands of daft twat

For this I decree by the hairy arse of Odin and the floppy cock of Justin Bieber ..

Do not anger me more.. mere mortal..

are you hard enough to challenge the Gods of having a bit of a laugh FOLK !!!!

GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: GUEST,Bluesman James
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 09:08 AM

Then what is the status of Jacques Dutronc? Et moi Et moi Et moi
Would I get shot if I dare mention Serge Gainsbourg?
PS On acoustic France (Putamayo) there is a recording of Carla Bruni playing acoustic guitar and singing - She (wife of Nicholas Sarzkozi) is now a "World Music" artist

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: Joe_F
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 06:21 PM

I was attracted to this thread by the possibility that Plastic Bertrand was a song about plastic statues of Bertrand Russell for skeptics to put on the dashboard of their cars. It seems not. %^(

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 04:10 AM

I don't care if it rains or freezes,
Long as I've got my plastic Bertrand,
Sitting on the dashboard of my car.

Dave H

Subject: RE: Plastic Bertrand,Is it folk music ???
From: MikeofNorthumbria
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 07:48 AM

Has "Ca Plane Pour Moi" ever been played on the Mike Harding show?

If the answer is "No" then it can't be folk music, can it?

Wassail!