Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011

Subject: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Fran
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 06:50 AM

Line up so far is

Alejandro Toledo & the Magic Tombolinos
Emily Smith
Fairport Connections
Feast of Fiddles
Jane Taylor
Kanda Bongo Man
Mathews Southern Comfort
Quill
Ralph McTell
Seth Lakeman
The Churchfitters
The Dylan Project
Three daft Monkeys
Cara Dillon
Chumbawumba
Jaquie McShee's Pentangle
Martyn Joseph
Peatbog Faeries
Richard Digance
Steve Gibbons Acoustic
The Wurzels

Butlins

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Pistachio
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 11:26 AM

Dates and which location please? Hazel

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 11:29 AM

http://www.bigweekends.com/your-break/67404

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 12:12 PM

Looks good - Even makes Skegness in December attractive :-)

(No insult to Skeggy intended of course...)

DeG

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Silas
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 12:28 PM

How does this work then? it says 79.00 per person, what does that include?

Cheers

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 12:51 PM

Silas
The £79 includes accomodation. However, that is probably the worst accomodation. So the £79 could go up depending on what type of accomodation you choose and whether you are self catering or meals included. It's excellent value, but anybody wanting to book needs to act very quickly.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Silas
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 12:53 PM

Worst accomodation - you mean worse than a tent in Bromyard 2008?

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 12:58 PM

Quick look at the site and I would guess that the 79 squids is room only. The rooms look OK but it does mean you will have to eat out all the time as there is no kitchen. Seeing as it is Butlins I would guess all the entertainment is included but I didn't spot that anywhere on the site.

D.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 01:08 PM

This is the quote I got for a one bedroomed apartment for 2 people, with breakfast and evening meal and the entertainment.

Your cost breakdown:
Cost of your break £144.00
15% off brochure price -£21.60
Price after discounts £122.40
Cost of your holiday extras:
Food Court dining (includes dinner and breakfast)
£12.25 per adult per night, £6.10 per child per night £73.50
Holiday Insurance (Remove)
£20.00
Total cost of your break: £215.90
Total cost includes:
3 nights accommodation
Live entertainment
Splash Waterworld
Food Court dining plan
Holiday Insurance


Hope that helps. By the way only one left for that one.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Silas
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 01:18 PM

Thanks Arthur, I'll speak to 'er indoors and maybe...

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 01:35 PM

That is damn good value considering the price of a weekend ticket for most festivals would take a big portion of that. I guess they are pricing to sell as not many people visit during early December!

D.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,DICKY BOY
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 02:40 PM

We went last year great weekend great value ask about a sky bar pass as well if you decide to go..

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Fran
Date: 14 Apr 11 - 03:19 AM

Sky bar passes all sold out .

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 24 Apr 11 - 08:19 AM

Were there any opportunities for sessions at last year's festival or was it all just attendance at performances?

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Fran
Date: 17 May 11 - 03:27 PM

More info on Fairport Connections:

"Fairport 'Connections' for Butlins!!

Our own Dave Pegg has been invited to be a patron of 'The Great British Folk Festival' which takes place at Butlins Skegness later this year.

Peggy has programmed Fairport 'Connections' for Sunday 4 December. He says, "I had the great pleasure of playing at Butlins Festival last year and am expletive delighted to be invited back and am honoured to have the chance to book the acts."

Peggy continues, "The idea behind Fairport 'Connections' is to present performers who have either supported Fairport on our winter tour or who have played at our annual Cropredy Festival. Gerry Conway and myself will be joining annA Ryder, Anthony John Clarke, Bob Fox, P.J.Wright and Steve Tilston for the afternoon show commencing at noon and the day finishes with a set from Brittany's fabulous Churchfitters. The evening show features Jacqui McShee's Pentangle, Martyn Joseph and concludes with a set from The Dylan Project. It's a great chance for myself & Gerry to play with some of our fave performers and I can thoroughly recommend the Butlins festival. See you there."

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 17 May 11 - 04:05 PM

Churchfitters are great. had them at faldingworth live twice and are booked for 2012. Go see them.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: melodeonboy
Date: 17 May 11 - 07:13 PM

I'm pleased to to see they're still going! I saw them at the Breton music festival in Quimper (Kemper) in the late 90s. Good stuff!

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,Graham Parker
Date: 25 Oct 11 - 04:50 AM

How would one go about getting a gig slot on the line up for this year, or next year if the line up's full?

Graham

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Fran
Date: 25 Oct 11 - 06:45 AM

Speak to Butlins?

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: theleveller
Date: 25 Oct 11 - 06:57 AM

Usual 18+ policy so won't be going.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Fran
Date: 29 Oct 11 - 09:43 AM

No kids wooo hooo!

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: theleveller
Date: 29 Oct 11 - 12:06 PM

Absolutely. We don't want the younger generation getting involved in folk music - it's only for miserable old bastards.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Pulseroom
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 10:51 AM

Here we go again..........

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,Chris Murray
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 08:07 PM

We enjoyed last year's festival very much, despite the appalling weather.

There are no sessions, singarounds, children's entertainment, workshops. Just the concerts. My sort of festival, in fact!!

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 09:49 PM

we had all this out in previous years threads....


so.. obnoxious middle class families with spoilt brat egg shaker screaming anti social kids are not welcome

for one weekend in an entire year of multivarious folk events..

boo hoo..

might just as well accuse Butlins of being anti Southerners

or anti non car owners..

or anti fuckwits who never even heard of folk music

or anti dead people..


or anti foreigners who find travel arrangements in the middle of winter to Skegness even more difficult than Southerners.....

sorry if I find it difficult to feel sorry for spoilt self centered me me me overeducated world revolves around us middle class twats...

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,punkfokrocker
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 09:58 PM

ok.. i'm just bitter and angry...


wish they'd sort out a franchise festival for minehead butlins

or even sand bay pontins

for us pathetic non car owning
to poor to afford train tickets south western cider heads...

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: theleveller
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 06:19 AM

""we had all this out in previous years threads...."

Indeed we did, pfr - what a shame attitudes haven't changed. I'm increasingly disillusioned with a folk scene that, apart from a few beacons of enlightenment, seems increasingly like an interminable episode of One Foot in the Grave, without the humour.

Why can't the folk scene be more like the community drama group that my 12-year old goes to, where people from a wide range of age groups, backgrounds and abilities can come together to put on a production of Les Miserables and all have a whale of a time doing it? No wonder so many folk clubs are having a tough time if attitudes like some of the above prevail - and thank goodness for the wonderful, joyous all-inclusicve festivals like Moonbeams Wold Top.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,Chris Murray
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 06:58 AM

It's just a different sort of Folk Festival - and it's run by Butlins who run dozens of these weekends so it's just a way of making money out of season to them. I've often thought that they shouldn't call it a British Folk Festival as it's not really British (this year's acts and last year's were mostly English) and it's not a festival as most of us understand the term.

Most folk festivals have entertainment and activities for children as the organisers have realised that festival-goers want to bring their families. Provide something for the kids and you get the parents to attend. Butlins don't want to cater for the kids - and that's up to them. I don't know much about these things, but I would presume it would cost them a lot more to provide accommodation, insurance and entertainment for kids. I don't think they provide anything for the kids at any of their specialist weekends. It's not that they don't like kids (this is Butlins, for goodness sake!!) - they just don't want them at their weekends.

I enjoyed not having kids there - but that doesn't mean that I don't want to see kids at most of the summer, camping real folk festivals - which this one isn't!!

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Pulseroom
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 03:01 PM

I can't believe that it's necessary to have to educate people with such triviality.

Butlins FESTIVAL is for adults only, if you don't agree with that don't go.

There are plenty of festivals that welcome children, if you don't agree with that don't go.

Stop whinging like a group of juveniles……

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: theleveller
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 04:04 PM

"Butlins FESTIVAL is for adults only, if you don't agree with that don't go."

That's the whole point - I can't go; I'm excluded because I have children. It's called age discrimination. I can't believe you don't understand that.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: selby
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 04:21 PM

on the plus side no kids on the slides in the pool:-)))))

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: theleveller
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 03:55 AM

Selby, I want to see the photographs (will you be wearing a wet suit)!

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 08:19 AM

I have kids leveller, I also have 9 grand kids, I take them to Butlins every year, I also take them to other seaside resorts. I take them to the Wath Festival where there are lots for them to do, face painting, games, laughing policeman, arts and crafts, world culture and they love it, but it is their choice that they don't stay for the evening concert because they don't like it, so I take them home.
However, Butlins festival don't have lots for them to do, face painting, games, laughing policeman, arts and crafts or world culture, it is for adults only and I am going. So what's stopping you?

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: theleveller
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 08:47 AM

"So what's stopping you?"

Two reasons. Firstly, I have a 12-year old who loves folk music, has been brought up with it and and has been with us to every festival we've attended since she was born. To farm her out to someone else while we go would be incredibly disappointing to her. Also grossly unfair.

Secondly, there's no way I'm going to give money to an organisation that supports discrimination so that can make a fsat buck. I've spent years of my life fighting against age discrimination and I'm not prepared to compromise my principles. Let me ask you this. Would you support a festival that excluded disabled people on the grounds that they needed special facilities or might offend people? What about a festival that excluded women? After all, they want hairdressers, nail salons and shoe shops, don't they - and their own toilets where they can leave the seat down? And what do they know about folk music - many of the songs were composed before they even had the vote?

You get my drift? Discrimination is discrimination, no matter what gloss you care to put on it.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Pulseroom
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 12:36 PM

Hmmm you cant make Butlins, shame but I would recommend The Winter Folk Weekend December 10th and 11th 2011

The Seagull Theatre, Morton Rd Lowestoft, Suffolk with: With artists including John Ward and Mario Price, Richard Grainger, Martin Carthy, Horses Brawl and more.

I'll be there so it would be nice to meet you.

I've also purchased tickets for the Gainsborough Old Time Festival 10th to 12th February 2012

The New North Carolina Ramblers and Ira Bernstein & Riley Baugus

There are more acts TBC
Its at the Queen Elizabeth's High School
Morton Terrace
Gainsborough
Lincolnshire
DN21 2ST

Also look at this, I have tickets for the Frome Folk Festival, Frome, Somerset all this for £58.00

Line-up already announced: Spiers and Boden, Bella Hardy, Kathryn Roberts & Sean Lakeman, Tim Edey & Brendan Power, Belshazzar's Feast, Pilgrims' Way, Jenna Witts, Cole Stacey, Luke Jackson with more to announce (including a second headliner).

Spiers and Boden afternoon Ceilidh with guest called Phil Bassindale.
Concerts, Ceilidhs, Workshops, Sing-arounds, Open Mics, Marketplace and more. Brilliant for you, so much to choose from. Well I hope to see you at some of these but oviously not at Butlins.

Sorry about that, keep your chin up...

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Pulseroom
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 12:46 PM

Ooops, must mention the Wath Folk Festival May Bank Holiday Leveller. I do have some knowledge of the line-up but it's a bit too early to say. Kids are very welcome there, I will be taking a group of kids from my family and friends; it would be really nice to meet up with you and yours there. Wonderful festival.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Fran
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 03:02 PM

Hardly too early to say when the line up has been online for ages and the early bird price deadline is gone Wath line up

Anyway looking forward to Butlins :-)

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 03:10 PM

Quite a few will be on their way shortly from the Wath Folk Club, unfortunately not me!!!
Please all have a good time.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Pulseroom
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 04:08 PM

Well done Fran that's cleared that up thank you. My reasoning for adding this info to the thread is merely to point out there are many festivals where leveller and any others with the same veiwpoint can go, without condemning Butlins "which may be the one and only adult only folk festival". I was involved in last years thread torment on the same subject. Why! Dont ask me.....

This is my last input I'm tired of it. Dont know why I get myself involved in the first place.

See you all at Butlins, should be good.....

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: theleveller
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 03:20 AM

Pulseroom, will definitely try to make Wath this year - we always seem to manage to miss it for one reason or another. Glad to see that that nice Mr Hearne has been booked.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: theleveller
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 03:26 AM

...ooh, and the incredibly lovely Lucy Ward - it's in the diary!

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: theleveller
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 03:34 AM

Oh, and have a bracing weekend in Skeggie, everyone. I don't begrudge anyone a good time - just would have liked to be included.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,Chris Murray
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 08:46 AM

I would have felt sad that I couldn't take my daughter to Butlins when she was younger but I wouldn't have felt discriminated against.

Butlins do dozens of these "Big Weekends". I don't think anyone at any stage said, "Let's not include kids". Actually, it would be quite interesting to know what the people who attend the other weekends think.

It is nice to attend a festival which focuses on the music only.

http://www.bigweekends.com/?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_term=Butlins%20big%20weekends&utm_campaign={Big_weekends}&ito=1

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,Chris Murray
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 08:47 AM

If the clicky doesn't work - I tried!!

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,I Don't Know
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 09:23 AM

Really looking forward to this weekend - great time last year & expect it will be this time.It is nice not having the kids for one weekend.
Why does some one not come up with a festival for kids - all performers could be under 25years old & workshops, dances ect could be arranged to suit diffrent age groups & abilities. Parents could be bystanders & helpers.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Banjiman
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 09:55 AM

I'm with The Leveller on this....... I can't go because my kids would want to be there as well.

I wonder if there would be any interest in a child focused weekend gathering/ small folk festival. We'd love to help pull one together if there is?

Probably the wrong thread to ask this question on though!

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,I Don't Know
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 11:16 AM

I will start a new thread.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,GUEST - Nick
Date: 01 Dec 11 - 11:59 AM

Why don't they ever show a timetable, anywhere?
Some of us can't make it for the whole weekend.
All I've found out so far is that Seth Lakeman is on Sunday.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: Fran
Date: 01 Dec 11 - 01:31 PM

Friday
Quill
3 Daft Monkeys
Ralph McTell
Chumbawamba
Peatbogs
Emily Smith

Saturday
Richard Digance
Cara dillon
Steve Gibbons acoustic
Matthews Southern Comfort

Sunday
Seth Lakeman
Martyn Joseph
Pentangle
Dylan Project
Churchfitters
Fairport Connections ft Anna Ryder, Bob Fox, Anthony John Clark, Steve Tilston
Jane Taylor
Alejandro Toledo & the Magic Tombolinos

Could not find out which day the Wurzels were on but would guess Saturday.

Subject: RE: Butlins Great British Folk Fest 2011
From: GUEST,Joe G
Date: 01 Dec 11 - 03:30 PM

Thanks Fran - that's useful to know - those who have been before do they have all day concerts on Sat & Sun or just evening ones? Is the sound ok - and what real ale do they usually have - I gather there were long queues for it last year!

Is the Fairport Connections band actually Fairport - I am confused!

Looking forward to seeing Churchfitters for first time - as well as lots of others