Lyr Req: Cricklewood

Subject: RE: Lyr Req:Cricklewood (Johnny McEvoy)
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 09:34 AM

Hi i would like to get the words of cricklewood by Johnny McEvoy

Subject: RE: Lyr req: Cricklewood (Johnny McEvoy)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 May 11 - 03:07 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Lyr req: Cricklewood (Johnny McEvoy)
From: GUEST,Frug
Date: 31 May 11 - 05:03 PM

Might it be this one??

http://unitedireland.tripod.com/cricklewood_lyrics_and_guitar_chords.html

Subject: ADD: Cricklewood (John B. Keane)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 May 11 - 06:15 PM

I can't find any time between Johnny McEvoy and a song titled "Cricklewood." Christy Moore did record a song with that title. Here are the lyrics from christymoore.com:

CRICKLEWOOD
(John B. Keane)

Cricklewood Cricklewood
You stole my youth away
I was young and innocent
You were old and grey

Come all you true born Irishmen and listen to my song
I am a bold buck navvy and I don't know right from wrong
Of late I've been transported from Ireland's holy shore
My case is sad my crime is bad I was born poor

If you are born poor me lads it is a shocking state
The judge will sit upon your crime and this he will relate
I find the prisoner guilty and the law I must lay down
Let him be transported straight away to Camden Town

Take him down to Cricklewood and leave him in the pub
Call the barman landlord then propose to him a sub
Leave him down in Cricklewood mid mortar bricks and lime
Let him rot in Cricklewood until the end of time.

Frug gave a link above to a recording and chords.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cricklewood
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 02:16 PM

Allmusic.com says that Johnny McEvoy did record a song called CRICKLEWOOD and it's on his album "20 Best Loved Songs from Ireland" (2002)—but it doesn't give a sample and it doesn't credit a songwriter, so I can't confirm it's the same song.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cricklewood
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 02:41 PM

There's something here I'm not getting. Someone is convicted of a crime, and the sentence is, take him to a pub and leave him there? As far as I have been able to learn, there isn't a prison on jail in Cricklewood, so what are they getting at? And what does it mean, to "propose to him a sub?" (By the way, I listened to the video of Christy Moore, and he sings "then ask him for a sub.") Either way, it's an unfamiliar expression to me.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cricklewood
From: GUEST,Frug
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 02:51 PM

A sub is either an advance on wages or a loan. (Subsidy)

Frank

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cricklewood
From: MartinRyan
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 03:14 PM

Think we've looked at "sub" in this type of context when discussing "pincher laddies"? It's origin (early 19 C. according to Partridge) is probably "subsistence money".

Jim
The judge/prison bit is mock heroic or ironic, I reckon.

Regards

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cricklewood
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 03:27 PM

OK, I think I get it now: he wasn't really convicted of a crime; his only "crime" was poverty, and his "sentence" was to live in Cricklewood. So I take it Cricklewood is (or was) something of a slum then? (I guess that's not the kind of thing you can readily pick up from a Wikipedia article.)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cricklewood
From: MartinRyan
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 03:42 PM

Cricklewood is an area (one of several) of London which, at one time, was largely populated by immigrant Irish labourers, living in cheap boarding houses and working in the construction industry.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cricklewood
From: GUEST,Frug
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 03:46 PM

Click here

This link sums it up

Frank

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cricklewood
From: MartinRyan
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 03:56 PM

I've only just seen the ascription to John B. Keane the well-known Kerry playwright. Didn't know that...

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