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Subject: You Tube Income ? From: Alan Day Date: 09 Nov 11 - 05:28 PM I have been approached by You Tube ,or it may be a possible scam, offering me income from my videos in exchange for adverts placed against them. I put these videos up for fun and income from them is the last thing I expected. Has anyone else had this approach ? Is it genuine? Is it worth pursuing ? I would appreciate your comments. Thanks Al |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: The Sandman Date: 09 Nov 11 - 05:32 PM yes, i was approached, i ignored it, i dont want adverts next to my music, they can get stuffed. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Will Fly Date: 09 Nov 11 - 05:36 PM I've ignored it - and, in any case, it only applies to material which is entirely your own creation. As a musical hack, it certainly doesn't apply to me. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 09 Nov 11 - 05:59 PM I haven't been approached yet but I would ignore. The only videos I have adverts on are those that include content that is owned or administered by someone else ~ 3rd party. I don't make anything at all from my YouTube channel. I have the channel for my own enjoyment, to make contact with people who have the same musical/poetic interests and to share videos that no one else has. There have been some |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 09 Nov 11 - 06:01 PM whoops sorry problems |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Richard Bridge Date: 09 Nov 11 - 06:40 PM Ha anyone thought through the possible PRS and MCPS issues? |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: gnu Date: 09 Nov 11 - 08:26 PM If you sign on, do they own the rights to your tunes? Careful eh? BTW, if you even post a tune on You Tube, do they own it? That happens on some websites where you can post pics. It's in the fine print. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Genie Date: 09 Nov 11 - 09:05 PM I'm almost certain YouTube does not claim any rights to your copyright protected material that you share there. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Barbara Shaw Date: 09 Nov 11 - 10:46 PM I was also approached and so far have ignored it. There have been ads on some videos I've seen and they are a bit annoying, but it's tempting to make some token money if anyone views my vids and clicks on an ad. I don't find it unethical or a particularly bad thing to do, but I haven't taken the time to do it or even think it through. It would be interesting to hear from someone who has done it. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Lonesome EJ Date: 09 Nov 11 - 11:26 PM I think you get an automatic solicitation when your channel reaches 500 or 1,000 views or something like that. I find ads annoying and often crassly at odds with the subject matter of the song. I wouldn't run an ad. Now if I had a song getting 100 views a day, I might reconsider. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: katlaughing Date: 10 Nov 11 - 12:08 AM I got one for the vids I put up of my brother's classical music and one of his songs. I've ignored it, so far, for a lot of the same reasons, Leej. We're working getting his stuff available for download and on CDBaby, which I think would bring in more than some obnoxious ad on youtube. I agree, it would be interesting to hear from someone who allows them. kat |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Alan Day Date: 10 Nov 11 - 03:52 AM A lot of the videos I have put up are my own compositions, but some are not.I would certainly hate an irate message from a composer annoyed at me making money out of his work. I wonder if You tube ask whether you own the copy write to a tune.I can fully understand someone accepting money for their recordings in this economical climate, but what about those who video artists at Folk Clubs and events? That would strike me as a real annoyance to the artist/s that someone is making money out of their performance. This is not a swipe at current posters of videos on this site,one of which I would trust completely. Thank you for your interesting comments so far. Al |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: GloriaJ Date: 10 Nov 11 - 04:27 AM I have once.I own the copyright of the material and I'm a PRS/MCPS member.In spite of tens of thousands of hits havent made a penny as far as I can see. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 10 Nov 11 - 06:12 AM I have some videos which include content that is owned or administered by someone else ~ 3rd party and YouTube recognises that and there is a copyright notification against those videos in the "my videos" section explaining that adverts may appear; I get no money from those adverts. However, I also have videos where the content is owned by someone else but not recognised by YouTube so no adverts appear and I wouldn't dream of allowing them to. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Alan Day Date: 10 Nov 11 - 06:49 AM So from the postings so far ,even if you allow adverts ,no income is actually happening. Al |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 10 Nov 11 - 08:26 AM It would be interesting to hear from someone who does make money from YouTube. I know it is related to things like the number of views, likes and favourited - presumably whoever puts the adverts on pays according to the audience for any video so it will vary ... but I don't know that for fact. There are videos on YouTube which claim to explain it all :) There are adverts on/to the right of 4 of my videos because they may include content that is owned or administered by these entities: Entity: Music Publishing Rights Collecting Society Content Type: Musical Composition and of course I didn't get a choice about those and none of the money comes to me. However those adverts are a small price to pay for being able to put up songs from LPs that are rare. I just find it enjoyable making the videos and sharing with people who appreciate them. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 10 Nov 11 - 08:40 AM On the Google forum there are people who are really fed up with the problems of 'likes' not registering and there have been issues with view counts too. A lot of these people have lots of videos where the views rise rapidly from the minute the video is made public and similarly for the 'likes'. It made me think that with their concerns some of them must be making an income from it. They are wondering when the issues will be resolved and also if the statistics will be updated once they have been resolved. From the latest reply from a YT employee I am not hopeful :( |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Will Fly Date: 10 Nov 11 - 09:30 AM YouTube is tiresome but a useful tool for musicians. I prefer Vimeo for quality and better organisation, but YouTube is the site that gets the attention, and Vimeo, I think, is really a site for film makers. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Will Fly Date: 10 Nov 11 - 09:44 AM The other thing to remember about YouTube that your YT material can get embedded in advertising sites - all over the world - as a tool for drawing in people to those sites. No acknowledgement, no credit... |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 10 Nov 11 - 09:50 AM It is possible to choose whether external sites can embed videos or not. I let all of mine be embedded and they seem to be all over the place. I do have friends/subscribers who choose not to let their videos be embedded in external sites. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Barbara Shaw Date: 10 Nov 11 - 10:11 AM Here's a copy of the email I received from youtube. ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: YouTube To: shoregrass Sent: Sun, October 16, 2011 5:35:53 AM Subject: Invitation to earn revenue from your YouTube videos help center | e-mail options | report spam Dear shoregrass, Your YouTube account shoregrass might be eligible to earn revenue from the playbacks of your videos. Making money from your videos is easy. Here's how it works: First sign into your YouTube account. Then review and complete the steps outlined here: http://www.youtube.com/account_monetization?feature=ieqe. If your account is enabled, we may place ads next to the videos you submit for monetization. You will earn a share of the revenue from the ads as long as you meet the program requirements. Thanks and good luck! The YouTube Team © 2011 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066 |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: treewind Date: 10 Nov 11 - 10:11 AM I've had that email from them too. I don't want adverts and I doubt I'd make even pennies on them. I should think you'd need 5 figure view counts before you got your first fiver out of them. (my biggest is just over 4000, not significant) As for copyright; * you are not supposed to post copyright violations * I have one upload flagged as copyright but they haven't asked me to do anything about it. * You can apply either "the standard YouTube license" or a Creative commons attribution license In both cases you own copyright, but with the latter you give permission for your material to be copied. YouTube videos can and do get embedded on all sorts of other sites unless you forbid embedding. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Alan Day Date: 10 Nov 11 - 10:27 AM Very similar Barbara to the one I received. Al |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: JedMarum Date: 10 Nov 11 - 10:30 AM I hate the Youtube ads. The ones that start with Video ads I ALWAYS click away from before the ad starts ... the ones that post little pop up ads are not so annoying, you can turn off the popup as soon as it appears (and so I do). As for my participation in the ads, I have not joined and have no plan to. I want my videos watched and enjoyed ... I have no interest in earning a few pennies from them. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 10 Nov 11 - 01:11 PM I don't know anything, but why not explore it? I read in the paper that YouTube is losing Google, Inc much, much money. If we want it to continue (and I would like it to), we need to give it a profitable basis. If you have doubts, you don't have to sign up, but surely it's worth learning about. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Alan Day Date: 10 Nov 11 - 05:12 PM It is where this site comes in handy Leeneia , it enables us to find out from those who have explored these avenues to enable us to make the right decision. From what I have read so far, with the postings, it looks better to leave well alone, unless of course your Utube viewings reach sizeable proportions and then it may be worth considering. My mate Will Fly is very modest and has downloads in thousands and if he does not think it worth going for then that's good enough for me. Al |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: olddude Date: 10 Nov 11 - 05:39 PM I turned off the embed etc after mine ended up on a British porn site. I post for friends and family and ignore all the other shit |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Barbara Shaw Date: 10 Nov 11 - 06:17 PM It seems not totally unlike the ads here on mudcat. Just sayin... |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Max Date: 10 Nov 11 - 06:27 PM 2 step process. They will offer but not let you do it till you reach a certain level of views, so the offers that some of you have are just to opt-in to their radar. Over a year went by between my 2 steps. To make any real money you gotta have something go viral. Million views and such. My film work for Alpaca Pictures gets a lot of views, a lot more than my silliness at least, and even they just get a trickle of $10 to $40 a month. Zero intellectual property concerns, they take not ownership or go anywhere near that. Owned by Google, its all the same big engine that succeeds for them only when it succeeds for you so they want you to succeed and will give you good advice. My objection is that the ads are over top of the content blocking a part of the video. That is unacceptable to my art or my silliness. So I don't do it, and I complain a lot. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: katlaughing Date: 10 Nov 11 - 06:52 PM olddude, can you point me to where I can turn off the embed allowing? I just looked through my settings, etc. and didn't find anything obvious concerning that. Thanks! Also, thanks, Max, for your assessment. kat |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 10 Nov 11 - 07:11 PM Kat, go to 'my videos' edit video under broadcasting and sharing options choose embedding there are 2 options save changes |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: katlaughing Date: 10 Nov 11 - 07:28 PM Thanks, eanjay! |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 10 Nov 11 - 08:00 PM Kat, sorry .... meant edit info not edit video. |
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Subject: RE: You Tube Income ? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 10 Nov 11 - 08:20 PM I thought that Roger - Rodgered - the clone on tonight's throne...and expected the deletion. GOTTCHA.
I refer to the "you tube" SOL under the military S-outta-luck ... catagory.
You pay a very dear price for "the freedom" of watching "free video."
Watch your NEW-FILES-ADDED over a one minute, or ten minute, or one hour span. Remove again, and I believe your "angel wings" may be clipped at the next sound of a bell.
Sincerely, |
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