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Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort

Sandra in Sydney 20 Feb 14 - 06:10 AM
gnu 19 Feb 14 - 05:29 PM
catspaw49 19 Feb 14 - 01:01 PM
Pete Jennings 19 Feb 14 - 10:32 AM
Janie 18 Feb 14 - 10:47 PM
GUEST,pete from seven stars link 18 Feb 14 - 04:54 PM
gnu 18 Feb 14 - 04:53 AM
Sandra in Sydney 18 Feb 14 - 04:47 AM
Janie 18 Feb 14 - 12:26 AM
Sandra in Sydney 17 Feb 14 - 08:06 PM
frogprince 17 Feb 14 - 06:20 PM
catspaw49 17 Feb 14 - 05:30 PM
Pete Jennings 17 Feb 14 - 11:15 AM
Sandra in Sydney 17 Feb 14 - 06:40 AM
GUEST,pete from seven stars link 16 Feb 14 - 05:16 PM
maeve 16 Feb 14 - 04:43 PM
gnu 16 Feb 14 - 06:11 AM
Pete Jennings 15 Feb 14 - 06:21 AM
Nigel Paterson 15 Feb 14 - 06:12 AM
GUEST,pete from seven stars link 14 Feb 14 - 05:36 PM
gnu 13 Feb 14 - 08:27 PM
frogprince 13 Feb 14 - 11:15 AM
Sandra in Sydney 12 Feb 14 - 07:08 PM
Janie 12 Feb 14 - 06:23 PM
gnu 12 Feb 14 - 04:18 PM
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GUEST,pete from seven stars link 12 Feb 14 - 01:27 PM
VirginiaTam 12 Feb 14 - 10:38 AM
Pete Jennings 12 Feb 14 - 06:10 AM
gnu 12 Feb 14 - 05:34 AM
frogprince 11 Feb 14 - 08:17 PM
GUEST,gnu on laptop 11 Feb 14 - 07:44 PM
GUEST,pete from seven stars link 11 Feb 14 - 05:07 PM
billybob 11 Feb 14 - 05:57 AM
Sandra in Sydney 11 Feb 14 - 01:44 AM
Janie 10 Feb 14 - 10:52 PM
gnu 10 Feb 14 - 08:21 AM
Nigel Paterson 10 Feb 14 - 06:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 20 Feb 14 - 06:10 AM

sniff.

apology accepted


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 05:29 PM

Leave it up the loikes a ye to make a crude joke. And thanks for the chuckle.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 01:01 PM

Ya' know, you'd think after all these years I'd have caught that........Goodonya' Pete........LOL......Sorry Sandra!


Spaw


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 10:32 AM

Sandra! Leave Sidney alone!

LOL!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 10:47 PM

Thank you, sandra in sidney.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 04:54 PM

UP SPAW..very moving account.   blessings all pete.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 04:53 AM

Thanks, Spaw.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 04:47 AM

drought pics & stories

Australia is famously the land of 'drought & flooring rain'- tho the rains seem to be in Britain at the moment.

sandra


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 12:26 AM

What sandra said.

Thanks and hugs, Spaw.

And may rain fall in Oz where ever it is most needed.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 08:06 PM

well, it means a lot more to me than it does to someone who has never read it ...

there is only time. And there is only what is......what should be never existed. thanks, spaw

sandra


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: frogprince
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 06:20 PM

Spaw, a lot of that post will be spinning around in my head for awhile. I'm sure a lot of us have had experiences, or sequences of experience, just similar enough to make that ring a bunch of bells, and bring back a lot of things. What a bunch of you here did for me in June of '12, on the thread I had started, was much the same as how this thread has gone.

How about we start a contest, seeing if we can one-up each other on how much this thread has meant to us?

....nah...    : )

                Dean


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 05:30 PM

I decided awhile back that I would not post again til I had the time to sit back and read this thread once again from the beginning. The 'Cat has been fighting me since the cold really set it and I think the old girl has some bad moments like the rest of us. BTW, I was delighted to first read the latest good news from so many fronts.   Ups for you all!!!

So I did get the time and the 'Cat's cooperation and I have enjoyed the read. I cannot tell you how much I have learned from this thread and from all of you.......and all of it has been important to how I am doing from that knowledge and support. But as we sail on I have had other experiences which I'll share here to help explain what I know now that I didn't know before.

Let me tell you about Rich. Rich and I were good friends in high school but went to different colleges. We worked several summers together during the college years and hung out together in our early 20's. We did about as crazyass shit as you can imagine on every level and we somehow survived those years though I'm not sure how. I have a warehouse full of "Me and Rich Tales" that I will never forget....or tell. Life overtook us and we drifted apart. Rich married Jan, his High School sweetheart, and started a family and by the time we were 40 barely saw each other although were always happy to do so, like two little kids with a shared secret.

A few years ago I sadly found that Rich had died. I didn't know any details or how to find Jan but I kept it in my mind for many years. Facebook has a site of folks who grew up in the same town as I did and I found many old school chums. All too many were now widows and widowers. One good friend, Vicki, knows everything about our class it seems and when I asked about Rich and Jan she gave Jan's info and then talked about Rich. Things had been going badly for him and he committed suicide. I was dumbstruck. I have talked to Jan and all but the idea stays in my head that sometimes we just need a friend or some support like we try to be around here. Perhaps if Rich and I had stayed in closer contact, I could have been that person for my old friend. Perhaps not. We don't know nor can we know. As I often say, there is only what is.

But oddly enough this voyage of Jane's Rainbow and the death Rich's death came together to finally make me realize, even after all I have gone through before, that the only thing I am absolutely certain of, that I can believe in and be assured of, is that in the final analysis there is only time. And there is only what is......what should be never existed.

There is also friendship which makes the time ever so valuable. Thank you all for the friendship and the time you have given and that we spend together here. Let's sail on together........


Spaw


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 11:15 AM

Beautiful day here in Staffs yesterday, but the rain's back today. Still, the days are getting noticeably longer. Springs a-comin'.

UP!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 06:40 AM

up, up & away - including the rain clouds


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 16 Feb 14 - 05:16 PM

We been down to winchelsea and rye overnight. beautiful sunny day.
I don't think it is expected to stay that way but hopefully it will be on the up....and UP ALL .    blessings    pete.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: maeve
Date: 16 Feb 14 - 04:43 PM

Up


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 16 Feb 14 - 06:11 AM

Almost off the board. I'll take that as 'steady as she goes'. Good enough fer tha girls I goes wit sir.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 06:21 AM

With you all the way with that, Nigel. As I write, there's a big bright thing in the sky. Now what could that be?


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 06:12 AM

Last night was very rough, here in East London. No significant rainfall, but winds gusting between 60-80 mph. My neighbour is a 'radio ham' & the sound of the wind blowing through his aerial array could've come from a horror movie soundtrack...very spooky!

The flooding in the South West & the Thames Valley remain the major areas of concern. Some news footage taken yesterday showed water levels had risen almost to the height of a front door. Imagine that volume of water invading the ground floor of your property. Neighbours/Communities are rallying round & helping each other where they can & the Emergency Services, bolstered by the Military, are working round the clock to protect, pump & repair. Heartbreaking interviews on the news...good people who've lost so much. As one man said, he wasn't bothered about replaceable items like 'fridges & TVs, it was all their personal possessions: photographs, family mementos, a special chair, all ruined by the filthy flood water (often contaminated by sewage). There is a stoicism within the beleaguered towns, villages & individual households, but it is increasingly obvious just how 'flood weary' they are becoming. The ground is saturated; the water table full to overflowing. The phrase one hears increasingly is: "Since records began".
          Ann & I are amongst the lucky ones, safe & dry, despite the fact that a tributary of the Thames flows 200m behind our house! The forecast for the coming week is more benign, so a little respite for some. I want to see records broken at the Winter Olympics, not in Meteorology.
         Keep safe...take good care of yourselves,
                                                                      With Love & many UPs,
                                                                                                       Nigel & Ann
                                                                                                       xxxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 05:36 PM

stormy here, but not flooding, thankfully.
also UP all!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 08:27 PM

I'm on snow watch for the next five hours (to 02:30). I managed to keep Mum calm and it's such a chore as the media, especially the TV, hype up storms for ratings. But, I think she'll be okay.

UP all!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: frogprince
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 11:15 AM

G'morning, crew: "UP" spaw, "UP" one and all.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 07:08 PM

good news from Wendy & Tam (let there be light!)


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 06:23 PM

Isn't light wonderful, VT? Spring and blue skies will surely come again.

Glad you have some support and ideas re the situation with your brother, Wendy.

Not quite 30 years ago we were flooded - water waist deep in the living room. We cut down some rather large trees with axes to get them out of the way, then attached a come-along to the front axle of our truck on one end and tree higher up the slope on the other, and wenched the truck up the mountainside to keep it clear of the flood waters.   We had moved my car to higher ground at a friend's house up on the ridge before the flood, thinking the road might get covered and we might want to hike out a little further up on the slope, but never dreamed the water would actually reach the house or driveway which were well above the road. Two days later we rescued ourselves and our two large dogs by kayaking out through what were usually the woods well above the river. I shudder when I read the news reports and look at the photographs on the news services. What I most remember was my shock and the sense of unreality when we did get out, drove up onto the ridge at the top of the valley and realized the rest of the world wasn't flooded. My heart goes out to all across the pond dealing with this devastation.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 04:18 PM

Well talk about Mudcat Mojo! Downgraded to about 20cm of snow tomorrow eve/night, 70kph, then 30mm of rain, and + (yes +!!!) 7C on Friday. Snow Saturday but not much.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 02:17 PM

Well, I didn't say it wasn't sunny. Nare a cloud in the sky. And, I'd guess it's about -8C with a 10 - 15km breeze. I was just out supporting the economy and saw many young folk with their coats open and sans scarf. They will learn. Especially the lad who thinks women appreciate his hairy legs. In my youth, he would have been given pants in sympathy or avoided or perhaps even sent for an assessment of mental accuity.

I see Brits wading in waist deep water on my TV and am not just taken aback with empathy but I also wonder just how cold the water is or how tough they are. I hope Mother Nature lays off ASAP.

Better days ahead for all I trust and hope.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 01:27 PM

here's to more light, and hopefully warmth, gnu and tam.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 10:38 AM

Cheering for Gnu. So happy for Wendy with news from the Admiral nurse re brother.

Grey and rainy in England for more than a month with only brief reprieves. And of course it contributes to the physical pain as well as the low mood. But something wonderful happened yesterday while I was at work which I didn't discover until this morning.

The leylandii with dead patches in it viewed from our first floor flat lounge and kitchen windows is gone!!!! Can't believe how much more light in our kitchen and lounge even on a grey day.

Can't wait until the sun comes back.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 06:10 AM

We had about 1cm of snow in a 40 minute flurry yesterday. All the snow this winter is falling as rain, and lots of it. "Experts" say the flood waters could take weeks if not months to dissipate. We aren't in a flood zone, thankfully, but thousands in the south-west are waist deep in water. Poor buggers.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 05:34 AM

I sit on the lap of winter. As I type, it is -20C about 2m away. The only thing between myself and frostbite is an R12 wall and nuclear power. But, it is gonna warm up... so it can snow. Wild predictions abound in the media, delivered in ominous hype by weather terrorists who desperately need ratings. Environment Canada says "... we could get some "heavy at times" snow, maybe some rain, and expect strong winds in coastal regions... we'll see." Jonna Brewer of the CBC Radio show Early Morning just said that she heard as much as 55cm and high winds. 'Wailin' Kalin Mitchell of CBC NB TV was in fine form last evening and even said 80km winds. I haven't made a final forecast for Thursday night and Friday personally but my preliminary forecast is "It's February in New Brunswick. I need a turnip for my chicken stew."


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: frogprince
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 08:17 PM

Hey, gnu? Whose lap are you sitting on?


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,gnu on laptop
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 07:44 PM

Good to hear, Wendy.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 05:07 PM

sounds good, wendy. some resolution to the quandary at last.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: billybob
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 05:57 AM

Gnu, that's why we come aboard, to share our feelings, much better to have a rant with friends here than bottle up on your own.

love and hugs

Wendy xxxxxxxxx

( who had a brilliant meeting with her Admiral Nurse yesterday and now knows what to do about the brother problem!!)


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 01:44 AM

I'll second that

sandra (no longer cookieless, thanks to Joe Offer)


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 10:52 PM

Up thread! Up Spaw! Up All y'all!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 08:21 AM

Now youse are about to tear up me eyes. Thanks. Onward...


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 06:11 AM

Gnu, I think this is the perfect thread for you to rant, rave, vent & release those angers that build up inside all of us at various times in our lives. I think it's the perfect thread because your chances of being castigated & vilified for expressing your anger, passionately & clearly are virtually nil. I think most of us aboard understand & recognise that anger is an essential part of the Human Condition. It's an honest, authentic reaction. It's only when the written or verbalised anger takes on physical expression...we act out our anger & lash out, that problems occur. Anger is a huge source of energy. Can you now redirect that energy into something creative, something that would leave you feeling content & satisfied? I recognise your anger, I respect your anger. There is space & a place for it here.
                                                                                    With Love,
                                                                                                   Nigel
                                                                                                   xxxx


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 05:16 PM

Love you, gnu, and appreciate your retrospective self awareness. We all cut loose every now and again, somewhere or another.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 04:42 PM

Thanks, pete. Means a lot to me.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 03:21 PM

sometimes it helps to get it off your chest ,gnu.
at least this is an empathy thread rather than one of the others where some posters want to be argumentative.
blessings    pete.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 12:08 PM

Hmmm... I have to develope a better method for watchin me mouth.

Hope things are looking up for all.

I checked in with the Mudcatter I mentioned above. He hasn't had any big problems since December but he's still working on getting back to normal.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 03:47 PM

The cold is the problem because it isn't cold. It's too bloody warm. When BP spills that much oil into the waters of the Gulf Stream from The Gulf, shit happens... bad shit... and it's just gettin goin. Wait until the oil shows up on the beaches of the eastern seaboard of the US and in the Bay of Fundy and on the shores of Iceland, Britain, France and Spain. They had to cough up $20B to Obama and that pittance will never pay for the people of the southern US who will die from this horrible and avoidable transgression upon Mother Earth. These people and the rest of those affected and those soon to be affected are SOL. Not to mention those immediately affected after the Gulf oil spill because BP's cash flow and stock dropped... Libya, Egypt, Syria... sickening.

Sorry for the rant but we are under the gun here in nb.ca on fracking, the pipeline, offshore drilling, the raping and herbicide spraying of our forests, and so on. Sometimes, I just get so PsO I wanna POST!!! even tho this thread is meant for other purposes. Does the/my care and concern for the Brits that are hard put by the weather have anything to do with my rant? Up to the reader, I suppose.

I'll shut up now.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 03:36 PM

heard today that its been the worst weather in terms of wind and water for 300 yrs.
wishing well for everyone and especially tam in her pain and discomfort.       pete.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 11:14 AM

Adding my own thoughts of care and concern. I was only peripherally aware of what a beating the UK has been taking this winter, and from a friend's postings in Wales, sounds like today is even more dreadful - sounds like the equivalent of a hurricane, only worse because it is winter and cold.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 11:11 AM

The day we learn to live in harmony with nature, respecting it's 'rules' & behaviours, instead of continually trying to bend or break them to suit OUR 'rules' & behaviours, is the day Humankind might actually grow up a little.
         Spaw nailed it: "Environmental tragedies abound. Perhaps one of the best things we can do is acknowledge that this is part of the world we have created and convince others such is the case. One of the biggest problems is the failure to believe what is happening". Eloquent, succinct & above all, the truth.
                                              Keep Safe,
                                                             Nigel
                                                             xxxx


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:47 AM

Well said, all.

I know a mudcatter near the west coast whose home was flooded badly and his power was out for far too many days. Sewage was all that came out of the power outlets. That was back in early December.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 08:32 AM

Environmental tragedies abound. Perhaps one of the best things we can do is acknowledge that this is part of the world we have created and convince others such is the case. One of the biggest problems is the failure to believe what is happening.

In the meantime, my thoughts and wishes are for those affected directly get what they can in $$$ and support from the rest of us.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: billybob
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 07:40 AM

Well said Nigel, we have been counting our blessings here on the east coast, cannot imagine how those poor people can be feeling? Weeks and weeks of water! How can anyone get over the stench ? Hate to think what is in the water, dead animals ,human waste etc . Has anyone started a fund to help? After the gas explosion in Clacton the local people were collecting clothes , toiletries, money within hours for the folks made homeless. That was just a few families, the Somerset disaster is so huge it is heart breaking.

Sitting here in the warm and dry wondering what we can do?

With love

Wendy xxxx


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 07:20 AM

Forgive me, but today I want to concentrate my thoughts on the Good Folk of Britain who are beset by floods. Houses & contents ruined, livelihoods ruined, the Farming Community: "Ripped apart" as one distraught Farmer wept into the reporter's microphone. Livestock lost, land so saturated that it will take 'forever' to drain, swollen, unmanaged rivers, bursting their banks again & again. Road & rail communications severely compromised. Thousands of exhausted, good people who really are "At the end of their tether", with no tangible end in sight. As each day passes, the weather forecasters apologetically promise more of the same: more rain, more wind, more high tides. And as if this wasn't enough, ministers & politicians, inept, inert & seemingly paralysed to act. The fact that action should've been taken years ago (and maintained), is a question to which one never gets a straight answer. A parting thought: has anyone from the UK Government been talking to anyone in the Netherlands Government? They know a thing or two about water & land management do the Dutch.
                                           With Love to You All & hoping you are all safe & dry,
                                                                                                                         Nigel
                                                                                                                         xxxx


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