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Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort

catspaw49 31 May 12 - 07:02 PM
Nigel Paterson 31 May 12 - 11:13 AM
GUEST,999 31 May 12 - 09:17 AM
maeve 31 May 12 - 05:55 AM
Nigel Paterson 31 May 12 - 04:08 AM
Janie 30 May 12 - 09:11 PM
gnu 30 May 12 - 04:08 PM
maeve 30 May 12 - 06:24 AM
Nigel Paterson 30 May 12 - 05:46 AM
GUEST,999 28 May 12 - 09:43 PM
ChanteyLass 28 May 12 - 07:08 PM
gnu 28 May 12 - 01:19 PM
Sandra in Sydney 28 May 12 - 11:49 AM
GUEST,pete from seven stars link 28 May 12 - 11:13 AM
Nigel Paterson 28 May 12 - 10:32 AM
Nigel Paterson 26 May 12 - 12:53 PM
ChanteyLass 25 May 12 - 03:18 PM
Nigel Paterson 25 May 12 - 05:10 AM
Nigel Paterson 24 May 12 - 04:12 AM
ChanteyLass 23 May 12 - 09:33 PM
gnu 23 May 12 - 07:09 PM
GUEST 23 May 12 - 11:23 AM
Sandra in Sydney 23 May 12 - 11:04 AM
Nigel Paterson 23 May 12 - 04:18 AM
Nigel Paterson 23 May 12 - 03:44 AM
GUEST,pete from seven stars link 22 May 12 - 05:31 PM
ChanteyLass 22 May 12 - 04:43 PM
Nigel Paterson 22 May 12 - 12:50 PM
GUEST,999 22 May 12 - 11:38 AM
Nigel Paterson 21 May 12 - 11:42 AM
Nigel Paterson 21 May 12 - 11:16 AM
catspaw49 21 May 12 - 11:04 AM
Nigel Paterson 21 May 12 - 08:01 AM
ChanteyLass 20 May 12 - 12:01 AM
catspaw49 19 May 12 - 07:11 PM
GUEST,pete from seven stars link 19 May 12 - 04:55 PM
GUEST,olddude 19 May 12 - 10:39 AM
GUEST,olddude 19 May 12 - 09:54 AM
GUEST,999 19 May 12 - 09:25 AM
Nigel Paterson 19 May 12 - 05:44 AM
Nigel Paterson 19 May 12 - 05:39 AM
gnu 18 May 12 - 10:20 PM
ChanteyLass 18 May 12 - 10:11 PM
GUEST,pete from seven stars link 18 May 12 - 03:45 PM
fat B****rd 18 May 12 - 03:32 PM
Nigel Paterson 18 May 12 - 12:35 PM
ChanteyLass 17 May 12 - 07:52 PM
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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 May 12 - 07:02 PM

Ain't that the truth Nigel? Given two glasses partially filled with water Maeve would see 4 full glasses! I'd just drink the damn things................

Hang in Nige....It might get worse but then again this could be the first step back up.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 31 May 12 - 11:13 AM

Looking forward to the email, Bruce.
Maeve, if you could package & market your take on optimism, both You & your Husband would make a fortune!
                                  With Love,
                                                 Nigel & Ann
                                                 xxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,999
Date: 31 May 12 - 09:17 AM

Nigel, I will e-mail you later today. I have a joke that fits this situation, but I'd rather it not be on the thread.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: maeve
Date: 31 May 12 - 05:55 AM

Nigel- My husband and I have reason to understand the "one darned thing after another" perspective. I choose to adhere to the approach that "has to be monitored every six months for the rest of her Life" means a party twice a year.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 31 May 12 - 04:08 AM

Thank you, my Dear Friends. Janie's comment fits for me & Ann. Yesterday, Ann was expecting to be discharged by her Oncologist...she had a Malignant Melanoma removed five years ago & has been fine ever since. But she was told (for the first time), that because the cancer had spread (also safely taken care of at the initial op.), she can never be discharged & has to be monitored every six months for the rest of her Life. Naturally, Ann felt very disappointed that this particular medical episode couldn't be finally 'put to bed'. We were also told, again, for the first time, that a recurrence was always going to be a possibility, which, ironically puts her in a similar situation to Jane. Ann was not a very happy bunny when we were driving home! It certainly is 'one darn thing after another'. Nobody warned us that retirement could be like this!
                                           With Love,
                                                          Nigel & Ann
                                                          xxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Janie
Date: 30 May 12 - 09:11 PM

Dang it, Nigel, life is one darn thing after another!


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: gnu
Date: 30 May 12 - 04:08 PM

Diabetes ain't near the problem it used to be as maeve has pointed out. More of a pain in the butt (that you don't need, of course) these days. Keep us up to date.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: maeve
Date: 30 May 12 - 06:24 AM

Diabetes is manageable, Nigel. We'll be here in the meantime.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 30 May 12 - 05:46 AM

Looks like it could be Diabetes...one more confirmatory blood test to go...bugger!


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 May 12 - 09:43 PM

Y'all still in my thoughts--like every day.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 28 May 12 - 07:08 PM

Right! Do what you need to do to care for yourself.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: gnu
Date: 28 May 12 - 01:19 PM

Take care, Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 May 12 - 11:49 AM

no need to apologise for what Doctor says, just do what your doctor says

sandra


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 28 May 12 - 11:13 AM

wishing you a speedy recovery   pete


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 28 May 12 - 10:32 AM

Apologies to all...the link to YouTube for 'The Voyage of The Rainbow' has had to be postponed until 4th June. My own health issues have suddenly & unexpectedly taken precedence... glucose & BP significantly higher than my Doc likes to see...bugger!!!
                     With Love,
                                    Nigel xxx


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 26 May 12 - 12:53 PM

Helen's funeral was beautiful. The service was in Humanistic style...tributes, readings & Music by Mozart, Helen's favourite composer. It was our first experience of this type of funeral & I have to say that it was a deeply moving, dignified 'final curtain' for a highly respected Drama Teacher. The sun shone & many of Helen's former students, some of whom have gone on to be professional actors, attended to pay their last respects. There was more laughter than tears, even though the sadness of the occasion was always in the forefront of one's mind.
         We wish you all the best of weekends,
                                                                  With Love,
                                                                                 Nigel & Ann
                                                                                 xxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 25 May 12 - 03:18 PM

In fact, it's a little foggy here in Rhode Island. I had my car's fag lights on as I crossed the Newport Bridge on the way to and from caring for my grandchildren. However, there's sunshine inside me, and it sounds like Helen and her family want to bring out the sunshine in all of you. Good luck with that!


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 25 May 12 - 05:10 AM

Today is going to be a mixture of happiness & sadness. This afternoon (Friday) we will be attending the funeral of a teacher (Helen) with whom we used to work, but at her funeral will be loads of former students & teachers (If the posts on FaceBook are anything to go by), many of whom we have not seen for years. We have been asked by Helen's Family to dress colourfully to celebrate her Life...she was a larger than life, dynamic, inspirational Drama teacher. It's a gloriously sunny day which fits perfectly with Helen's personality.
             Hope the sun is shining on you too today,
                                     With Love,
                                                    Nigel & Ann
                                                    xxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 24 May 12 - 04:12 AM

Thank you, Sandra, gnu & ChanteyLass. The medication trial is another act of Faith, writ large! Guest (23rd May, 11.23am) I was intrigued by your reference to Enrico Fermi & squash courts. Needless to say, Google came to my rescue. Amusing to ponder him conducting some of his experiments in squash courts & ironic in the extreme to consider that a Nobel Peace Prize winner became intimately involved with the Manhattan Project. I doubt I shall feel as elated as Mr.Fermi when he made his 'squash court discoveries' when I upload on 29th, rather, a quiet sense of satisfaction of what I hope will be perceived as a job reasonably well done.
       Nice & warm here in London, averaging out around 25℃...time to sort out the weeds & get the front door painted.
                                        Much Love to You All,
                                                                         Nigel & Ann
                                                                         xxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 23 May 12 - 09:33 PM

I, too, hope the medication trial works well for her.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: gnu
Date: 23 May 12 - 07:09 PM

I hope this course of action works out well, Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 May 12 - 11:23 AM

The news about Jane's coming treatment is great, Nigel. I have a good friend who attended and still attends a clinic for lupus, and although it is trying, it's been a big help to keep her keeping on. It's good to hear that the medicos are thinking in terms of years.

"Getting audio from LogicPro to YouTube is, for me, 'a challenge too far'...having an expert sitting at my elbow gives me a much needed confidence boost."

I laughed when I read that statement. There are days when I wonder at the abilities of people who can whiz around computers. I'm a bit past the stage where my cure for everything computers is the on/off switch, but not really that far removed from it. I'd offer one small bit of advice: write down everything the guy/gal does, then do it from your written page before you leave. You'll feel like Enrico Fermi must have when he used a slide rule to predict where things would go next when they created the first sustained atomic chain-reaction at the University of Chicago in December of 1942. It didn't get away from them, good thing for the squash courts.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 23 May 12 - 11:04 AM

great news about the medical trial.

always good to have a tame expert around. Where would I be without my Personal Help Desk who is always there when I need him - well, almost always, sometimes I do have to consult another techy friend to get an answer when I want it! And I have another couple of friends who can also help.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 23 May 12 - 04:18 AM

Latest news about Jane; she has joined a medication trial. It's a drug that is already licensed in other countries, but not yet in the UK. She has been told that she is a 'perfect candidate'. Jane has committed herself to a long-term programme...two years, but it means she is monitored very regularly & very closely (more so than if she was just 'in treatment'). It is somewhat intrusive in terms of the number of clinics she has to attend each week, but after much consideration, Jane felt it was the right course of action, as does the whole Family.
          I know it probably seems a bit weird that 'The Voyage' will be published on a specific date, but the fact is, I need help with the upload & 29th May is the first available date I can see a Trainer at my local Apple Store! Getting audio from LogicPro to YouTube is, for me, 'a challenge too far'...having an expert sitting at my elbow gives me a much needed confidence boost.
         With Love to you all,
                                       Nigel & Ann
                                       xxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 23 May 12 - 03:44 AM

Pete, one of the qualities I hope for in a good & trusted friend is the ability to "Agree to Disagree". I think we've both 'ticked the box' on that one (-:
                                                      With Love,
                                                                     Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 22 May 12 - 05:31 PM

thanks for outlining your spiritual position nigel.not one i would favour as a christian but which i respect never-the-less and appreciate you taking us all on board.blessings pete.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 22 May 12 - 04:43 PM

Oh, good! We'll get to hear it in a week! I'm looking forward to that!


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 22 May 12 - 12:50 PM

Bruce, the link for 'The Voyage of The Rainbow' will be posted on 29th May...have adopted all your mixing suggestions, you have a good 'ear'...thank you very much!
                                                                            Kindest Regards,
                                                                                                    Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 May 12 - 11:38 AM

Nigel, have you posted a link to the music piece?


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 21 May 12 - 11:42 AM

OK, here goes second attempt.
             I've never spoken publicly before about my early experiences with religion & I realise I'm in danger of highjacking my own thread, but your posts demand a response. Spaw, ChanteyLass, Bruce, Dan, Pete...thank you, as always, your words touch me deeply.
             Pete, I've been searching since my early teens & am now content with what I've found & where I am, spiritually speaking.
             Dan's wise words: "Religion never works ... Faith, never fails". At the risk of repeating myself from an earlier post, my Faith resides in people & nature. Despite too many examples of "Man's inhumanity to Man", I have an unshakable Faith in a Goodness that resides within most of us, so.....I have Faith in my Mudcat Friends...I have Faith in the Doctors who are treating Jane...I have Faith in my beloved wife, Ann...I have Faith in my ability to create new Music. God in his/her various guises plays no part in my Faith. I am a member of the Human Congregation & it is there my Faith had it's genesis & it's essence remains.
             Much Love to You All,
                                             Nigel & Ann (And Nigel personally)


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 21 May 12 - 11:16 AM

Spaw, if I read your post, will you have to kill me or will I simply self-destruct??!!
                                                                Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 May 12 - 11:04 AM

So Joe....You managed to complete your CIA mission in Egypt and are now about to try and infiltrate the IRA....Is that right? I mean like I'm just passing along the gossip to you. If this is wrong let me know. Then again if you're CIA you won't admit it will you?   Yeah........Well good luck anyway I guess..........maybe......


Spaw


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 21 May 12 - 08:01 AM

Just tried to post & it's disappeared! Have written to Joe, but when It's 'gone', is it 'gone'?

Nigel.
      Hi, Nigel - Your message probably never made it to Mudcat. It might still be on your computer if you use your "back" button judiciously, but it's been twenty-five minutes and I'm guessing it's gone forever. When you post a long message, always highlight [CTRL-A] and copy [CTRL-C] it to your computer's clipboard before you submit it. Then, if the message doesn't "take," you can reload the thread by pushing F5 on your computer and then paste [CTRL-V] the text into the message box and submit. It's not a bad idea to push F5 and reload the page before typing a long post. Don't feel too bad - I just lost a long message I was trying to post on Facebook. You're in good company. -Joe, in Dublin-


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 20 May 12 - 12:01 AM

Nigel, you were a victim of abuse by your clergyman. I am sorry that happened to you.

I haven't belonged to any organized religion for a long time. I've looked at a few faiths other than the one in which I was raised and found some good things about some of them, but I've decided that none of them worked well enough for me to want to join. That hasn't stopped me from continuing to seek, pray, and listen.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 May 12 - 07:11 PM

Nice post Nigel....it really is.

I'm proud to say I was the first recipient of Mudcat power and what I believe is that there is a warmth and kindness that frees within us a kind of power that we all have hidden. Its the knowledge that we aren't alone but are in the thoughts/prayers of so many others. Now I don't know if there is any actual affect medically but the simple and yet hard to find belief in each other is the strangely tangible thing we hold close. Through that the virtual hugs become real and our spirits are lightened and transferred to all around us.

Or maybe something fell somewhere...............


Spaw


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 19 May 12 - 04:55 PM

sorry to hear of your early negative experience of religion nigel.i hope it has not completely stopped you enquiring.blessings pete.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 19 May 12 - 10:39 AM

Religion never works ... Faith, never fails


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 19 May 12 - 09:54 AM

Nigel Jane and Pete's mom in my prayers daily ...
I have no doubt that things will be fine .. Going at it full guns


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,999
Date: 19 May 12 - 09:25 AM

Beautiful post, Nigel. Y'all are still in my heart and thoughts.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 19 May 12 - 05:44 AM

Apologies to Pete...Ilnur is pronounced Il-ner,
                                                                      Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 19 May 12 - 05:39 AM

Day one for this thread was 12th January. By the end of the 12th there were 23 posts...a pretty impressive start. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined that I would be sitting here on 19th May, writing post 501 (that is, unless someone squeezes in 501 while I'm writing this!). The collective power of this online community is something I have never experienced before...more profound, more inclusive, more safe, more worthwhile than anything 'masquerading' as religion. I went to church as a child...most people did in the village in which I lived, but it wasn't long before questions were forming in my mind that needed answers. The answers didn't come & round about the age of 12, my Father was summoned to the vicarage & asked to remove me from the congregation because I was a 'trouble-maker'. At school, R.E. was taught by an ordained minister. He didn't answer my questions either, so our teacher-pupil 'relationship' deteriorated rapidly, resulting in frequent punishments. His preferred method was to bind & gag me & sit me on top of an old safe in his office. He would then proceed to rail at me about hellfire & damnation & what an evil little so & so I was.
          I started this thread because Ann & I felt so desperate & helpless following Jane's diagnosis, but as the days have turned into months, I am becoming increasingly aware that I need all you good people too...people I can trust, people I can rely on, people who, despite their own trials & tribulations will still take a moment to find out how we're doing.
         I cannot adequately express what your kind, caring words have meant to Ann & myself & to me on a very personal level. You've put back a measure of trust in my Life that has been absent for too long.
         With Much Love,
                                 Nigel & Ann (And Nigel personally)
                                 xxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: gnu
Date: 18 May 12 - 10:20 PM

500 posts, Nigel. That's a lot of Ts&Ps. Well desrved. I am glad to have been part of it and hope that the positive energy continues.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 18 May 12 - 10:11 PM

What Pete just wrote!


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 18 May 12 - 03:45 PM

thanksgiving for janes stable condition and prayer offered for llnur.
how is that pronounced?
God bless pete


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: fat B****rd
Date: 18 May 12 - 03:32 PM

Nigel and Ann,the very best thoughts and regards to you, Jane and all those you care for,
Charlie.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 18 May 12 - 12:35 PM

Jane had her first volunteer session today & thoroughly enjoyed it. An altogether positive experience, working with children again in a happy, productive atmosphere & making contact with teachers with whom she used to work. We have no idea for how long Jane will be able to sustain this effort, but to echo ChanteyLass' words: "Glad to read that things are going as well as they are. I hope that continues to be true". Things are going well at present & the longer that persists, the better,
                                              With Love,
                                                             Nigel & Ann
                                                             xxxxxxxxx

P.S. I would like to add Ilnur to our crew list. She is a former student of mine who has just been given some worrying health news.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 17 May 12 - 07:52 PM

Mmm. Traditional afternoon tea at the Savoy. Yum!

Glad to read that things are going as well as they are. I hope that continues to be true.


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 17 May 12 - 10:01 AM

Getting my rosary out and will make a visit to church. We gotta get you healed up my brother


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 May 12 - 07:26 AM

normal is good -

keep up the good work

sandra


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Subject: RE: Healing thoughts & prayers please (Nigel Paterson)
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 17 May 12 - 04:54 AM

Very pleased to report that Jane's treatment continues to hold back any further spread of the cancer. She's feeling well enough to do some voluntary work at a local school at which she used to teach. To quote her own words: "It makes me feel more normal".
       Yesterday (Wednesday), Jane, Alex (one of her sons), Ann & myself spent the day together celebrating Ann's Birthday. A really delicious lunch, followed by a matinŽe performance of 'The Duchess of Malfi' (weird, but strangely compelling!), finishing off with Traditional Afternoon Tea at The Savoy...our calorie intake went off the scale! It was wonderful to see Jane in our Family Quartette, enjoying Ann's Birthday...normal people doing the normal things one does to celebrate a special Birthday.
       Thanks to gnu for listening.
       Special thoughts & Love to Pete & his Mother.
       Janie, your expression: "peanut gallery" put a smile on my face that never entirely went away!
       Our course is set. The weather is fair. Our voyage continues.
       Much Love to you all,
                                        Nigel & Ann.
                                        xxxxxxxxxx


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