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Subject: BS: Question about Scotch From: kendall Date: 28 Feb 12 - 07:23 PM I thought I was up on my Scotch, but my pal, Gordon, came to visit and we spent a very nice evening getting acquainted with a Scotch I never knew existed. It's called Aberlour. Speyside, single malt and unbelievably smooth. What do you know about this? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: michaelr Date: 28 Feb 12 - 07:50 PM Aberlour, I believe. I've seen it but not tasted it. My Scoth taste runs to the peaty, so I usually prefer Islay malts. The Scots have figured out that rich Americans will spend ridiculous amounts of money on "rare" bottles, and are shipping ever more special malts, sherry cask, barrel strength, etc etc over here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Bill D Date: 28 Feb 12 - 07:53 PM Aberlour... it is a very nice one...and not terribly expensive. Not as exalted..*grin*.. as The MacAllan, but a straightforward dram. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Bill D Date: 28 Feb 12 - 07:58 PM Of course, as this page shows, Aberlour comes in various ages and can get quite pricey. I have had only the ordinary one, but it was just fine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Rapparee Date: 28 Feb 12 - 08:20 PM Japanese, not Americans. The Japanese are buying the expensive Scotches. Americans can't afford it anymore (unless you're in politics). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: kendall Date: 28 Feb 12 - 08:22 PM So long, Glen Livet, Glen Fiddich and Glen Morangie. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Bill D Date: 28 Feb 12 - 09:00 PM naaaww, Kendall... it's nice to vary things occasionally. I like MacAllan ..or Cragganmore for a late night dram, or Highland Park for being marooned on a desert isle with only ONE kind forever......or, for a ...but, de gustibus non disputandum |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Jeri Date: 28 Feb 12 - 09:06 PM I can get it south of the border, Kendall. I like Laphroaig, and Talisker, and other brands. I just can't drink very much of it these days. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Jack Campin Date: 28 Feb 12 - 09:23 PM Aberlour's Squeeze William Marshall tune, from his 1822 collection. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: maeve Date: 28 Feb 12 - 09:49 PM Kendall, Kendall, Kendall. Check your PMs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: John P Date: 28 Feb 12 - 09:55 PM I just finished a bottle of Abelour. I don't remember what kind, but it was about $50. It's definitely on my list to buy again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Beer Date: 28 Feb 12 - 09:56 PM Well, I don't know much about it except two weeks ago a wonderful couple who played music for our coffee house (Jou Tou)gave me a bottle of Aberlour and I just sent the empty to the recycling with a heavy heart. I agree, it was smooth and wonderful. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Bobert Date: 28 Feb 12 - 09:58 PM WTF??? I heard that you and Al Gore invented Scotch, Capt'n??? No??? B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Feb 12 - 10:37 PM I have only begun my personal research into Scotch in recent months. I've tried different blended Scotches, and have decided that I'll only buy glass bottles (most all of the 750ml bottles are glass, but the next size up, that's where the test is. My first test: do they think enough of their product to put it into glass?) Not scientific, perhaps, but it's one way to sort out the way-low end from the moderately priced varieties. I've seen many types - single malt, unblended varieties, from low lands and highlands and bogs and tips of islands. . . how would some of you who have been drinking Scotch for a while compare the types of Scotch - what draws you to a single malt versus a blended brand? I have noticed that as I go a bit up in the price that the Scotch seems to be smokier or have more of a taste of the barrel. Not so sweet. It takes several drinks (over time!) to decide if I like that particular type of smokiness, etc. What is it you like about your favorite Scotch? SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Beer Date: 28 Feb 12 - 10:51 PM Stay away from plastic bottled Scotch. That is just rot gut stuff. I have never studied much about scotch. one thing i know is when I drink it and savor the taste i will know if i want to have it again. I have tasted the bottom of the barrel which to me is Cutty Sark and Johnny Walker Red Label for starters and have climbed up the ladder over the years top the single malt brands. I still love to try brands i never heard of and this one is a definite plus. adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: number 6 Date: 28 Feb 12 - 11:16 PM Forget Scotch ... the only good whiskies comes from Ireland. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Beer Date: 28 Feb 12 - 11:20 PM LoL ad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Dave Hanson Date: 29 Feb 12 - 03:53 AM kendall, if you like Aberlour you should try Aberlour A'Bunadh, it's a cask strength whisky, usually about 60% abv, fabulous. Incidently A'Bunadh means ' the original ' Dave H |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Big Al Whittle Date: 29 Feb 12 - 04:26 AM One of the cheapest single malts in Tesco - comes in a nice cylindrical box. Mild. Of the pricier ones, I like Talisker. But the best cheap one by a long shot is Sainsbury's single malt Irish Whiskey. About a fiver cheaper than Abelour. Its all subjective, I guess. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Silas Date: 29 Feb 12 - 04:41 AM As a whisky/ whiskey drinker, I have to say that much as I like Irish Whiskey, it does not have and will never have the depth of flavour that you get with a scotch. Its all to do with the way the grist is treated. Most of the flavour comes from the barrel in Irish, not the roasting process in the Sctch. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: John MacKenzie Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:26 AM Caol Ila |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Big Al Whittle Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:49 AM Emphatic words Silas. How can you be sure you've tried them all? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Silas Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:56 AM I haven't tried them all, but because they dry the germinated barley in ovens rather than over fires, they do not get any flavours from it - this is a deliberate ploicy and is part of the Irish wiskey standard, it ia also triple distliied rather than twice like scotch, so ther eis little scope for flavours apart from aging in barells, but most have a very clean smopoth taste. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Beer Date: 29 Feb 12 - 07:35 AM Interesting Silas, thank you. Ad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Silas Date: 29 Feb 12 - 07:55 AM Tesco Finest Blended Scotch is really one of the best blended whiskies on the market in my opinion, it is more expensive than Grouse or bells but it is a superb quality. My favourite of all is still the humble Glenmorangie. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: kendall Date: 29 Feb 12 - 08:44 AM The bottom of the bottom is Duggan's Dew o' Kirkintilloch. Lighter fluid is ambrosia compared to that crap. The very best whiskey is the one YOU like. I like Jamisons and Jack Daniels, but Aberlour is tops on my list. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: maeve Date: 29 Feb 12 - 08:49 AM Slàinte mhath! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Will Fly Date: 29 Feb 12 - 08:57 AM My favourite - Dalwhinnie, a bottle of which is waiting to be opened. I always have a couple of bottles of Glenfiddich handy as well. In my local - not over-supplied with single malts - the options are Glenmorangie and Balvenie. In summer, a Famous Grouse with Canada dry ginger is always refreshing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: John MacKenzie Date: 29 Feb 12 - 10:15 AM Tesco's Islay malt is often rewarding. I sometimes think it may be Bowmore in disguise. While another time it is very pale and redolent of Ardbeg. Both good whiskies, and both costing more than Tesco's are charging for their own brand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: kendall Date: 29 Feb 12 - 12:22 PM Jacqui said I have a bottle of Glen Livet in the cellar. I haven't looked; what if it's not there? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Silas Date: 29 Feb 12 - 12:28 PM Glenlivet is good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: John MacKenzie Date: 29 Feb 12 - 12:50 PM She's just trying to get you down there again Cap'n. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Bill D Date: 29 Feb 12 - 12:55 PM SRS... I, personally, do not care much for the smokey ones. Heavily peated Scotch just...um... tastes 'polluted'. I prefer brands like Highland Park and such because the variables in taste are not distracted by smoke flavor. (Talisker is a different thing... it has, I believe, some peat, but whatever it is they do to it beyond that just hits me right....on occasion) *shrug*.. I don't like beer with fruit flavors added, either.....though it's not exactly the same situation. Some Scotches are 'delicate' and a lighter flavor,(and I consider Aberlour a fairly light type...good, but not strong) while some have stronger essences from being aged in different wine barrels...etc. I like whisky with 'character', rather than just tasting 'good'. IF there is somewhere near that does tastings of different types, you can learn your own preferences without the expense of buying many big bottles that don't suit you. As to blended brands, they are usually an attempt to produced a 'smoother' drink to appeal to a wider crowd which may not even care about nuances. There are a few blends (like Famous Grouse) which are a bit above the average. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: EBarnacle Date: 29 Feb 12 - 12:58 PM I have the remains of a bottle of Cragganmuir that will be shared out when we sell our first wter machine. I will then buy another. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Dave the Gnome Date: 29 Feb 12 - 01:18 PM Abelour is often on offer in my Local Morrisons - £20 last time if I remember rightky. Should have bought a dozen :-) Yes, I like it. If you like the sweeter, smoother malts you may also like one of my favourite blends - Stewarts cream of the barley. Very reasonable price when you can get it but quite rare nowadays. Nowhere near as good as Abelour of course but a very good 'everyday' Scotch. DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Bert Date: 29 Feb 12 - 02:52 PM I used to like Glenfiddich but my taste has changed and now I prefer Jim Beam. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: GUEST,Allan Conn Date: 29 Feb 12 - 02:57 PM Another two good ones are Glenfarclas and Old Pulteney. I did once take a bottle of Aberlour to a whisky tasting session, admittedly because it was so cheap, and it got voted the best whisky of the evening! A tip for toursits. Our nearest distillery is Glenkinchie in East Lothian which is a pleasant enough dram in itself - however it is a great place to visit. Often at the end of a tour you get a complimentary glass of the distillery whisky included. At Glenkinchie however you get to a wee bar at the end of the tour which is stocked with an ample selection of different whiskies - and basically as long as it isn't too busy you can have quite a few. I had six different whiskies on my first visit and they said "oh you're not going already when I headed for the door" :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 29 Feb 12 - 03:07 PM Highland Park has become my favorite, because it is incredably smooth, although I won't refuse other good single malts. Had a bottle of Highland Park 18 year this Holiday season. It was a gift, I do with the 12-15. I got curious and looked at their website. The vintage Highland Park at 2000-3000 pounds! must be for the Gates and Buffets and Carlos Slim. A 50-year old at 10,000 pounds is surely for the gods. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Nigel Parsons Date: 29 Feb 12 - 03:38 PM For those who missed it first time around nunc est bibendum is a quiz where all the answers are whiskies (or terms involving 'scotch') and includes various brands, blends, types & malts. Cheers!! Nigel |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 29 Feb 12 - 03:43 PM Although Cape Breton is as "Scotch" as is Scotland they can't use that word for their single malts. However deriving from the same Highland moonshining heritage you may find GlenBreton a special treat. GlenBreton |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Beer Date: 29 Feb 12 - 04:06 PM Enjoyed the video. Thanks Sandy. ad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Big Al Whittle Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:03 PM Just checked the shelves at Tesco. The cheapest single malt was Glen Moray £17.74 - Abelour has rocketed up to £29 plus. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Bill D Date: 29 Feb 12 - 06:46 PM Just curious why 3-4 people type "Abelour" rather than "Aberlour". It really does have 2 'r's.... A Google search gets very different results. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: GUEST,Allan Conn Date: 29 Feb 12 - 07:11 PM Aberlour was still on the the cheaper ones in our Sainsburys. Can't remember exactly but it was early £20s |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Louie Roy Date: 29 Feb 12 - 07:28 PM My favorite scotch is called Sheep Dip it's an 8 year old scotch and I'm sure is one of the cheaper scotches at $40.00 a fifth but is in my opinion excellent.Kendall I nver had a chance to try your brand but I'm guessing it is hard to beat at any price.For a nice refreshing and relaxing drink pour 2 ounzes of scoth in a highball glass and top it off wit 2 ounzes of 2% milk or half and half.Try it you might like it and can be ordered in a cocktail lounge by askig for a moose Milk Louie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 29 Feb 12 - 07:58 PM My grandfather's brand was Grand MacNish. I have not heard of it in many years but I see here that Hemmingway was also a loyal fan. Grand MacNish My long departed grandfather would tell you all that the only thing to mix with good Scotch is spit! :-} |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: kendall Date: 29 Feb 12 - 08:52 PM Ralfy gave Aberlour a 91 out of 100. Not bad. I'm glad I'm not the only one who adds a bit of water to it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Stilly River Sage Date: 29 Feb 12 - 10:25 PM This information is very helpful, thanks! Kendall, I add a ice cubes and sip so the ice is as good as water. The latest I brought home was Johnny Walker Red label and I don't like it as well as a couple of others in the same general price range. Ballantines is quite smoky (interesting to read about the roasting of the grain - that explains a lot). Of the ones I've tried so far, Famous Grouse had the taste I liked best. But I'll make a short list and try a couple of the others listed here. Each liquor store has a different offering, so if I stumble upon affordable bottles, I've give them a try. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: GUEST,Seamus Kennedy Date: 01 Mar 12 - 01:43 AM My two all-time favorites (until I change my mind) are Lagavulin and Bushmills Black Label....not mixed. I like the smoky peatiness of the Lagavulin, and the sweet fruity overtones of the sherry cask in the Bushmills. There's also a very nice Irish peated single malt called Connemara, made in the Cooley Mountains in Co. Louth. While in Scotland last year, I visited the Tomatin Distillery. A very nice dram, but mostly for the Japanese market. Smooth nonetheless. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Question about Scotch From: Silas Date: 01 Mar 12 - 02:34 AM Ice - good god. |
