BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)

Subject: Obama Throws Hillary Under The Bus
From: Songwronger
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 07:00 PM

Obama Throws Hillary Under The Bus – Clintons Furious

It appears that Barack Obama is ready to let Secretary of State Clinton take the fall for the failure in security in Benghazi. During the vice-presidential debate on Thursday it became clear that is what the agenda was.

There is no doubt that is part of her responsibility in that role....

It seems that there is a legitimate reason for the Obama administration to throw Clinton under the bus on this one and it seems that everyone is on board with it, including Vice President Joe Biden....

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/10/obama-throws-hillary-under-the-bus-clintons-furious/

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: pdq
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 07:10 PM

Obama is risking the possibility that Bill Clinton will stop the campaining for him.

Clinton draws bigger crowds the Obama.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 07:27 PM

Where IS this damned bus that everyone keeps getting thrown under? And who started that stupid expression in the first place?

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: meself
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 07:32 PM

I did - and I'd thank you not to call it stupid. Unoriginal, yes, stupid, no. Thanks again.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: pdq
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 07:43 PM

B. F. Goodrich.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 07:51 PM

Are we really supposed to take seriously a story on a website that has this set of links at the bottom of the page:

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Recommended Stories

Obama Administration Sets Stage For Sharia Law In America (Freedom Outpost)

Obama Believes that the Future Belongs to Those Who Slander Christ.
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Really?

You are truly idiots.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Tiger
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 08:05 PM

Please, just analyze what was said. And, what's YOUR interpretation?

It's got nothing to do with screwball websites.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 08:13 PM

My interpretation:
Wild speculation and wishful thinking.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 08:20 PM

I've seen some pretty odd links here and there on Mudcat's page too. Should I judge Mudcat by those links?

meself - No, you didn't. ;-) And it IS a stupid expression. Stupid, stupid, stupid! It's as stupid as putting the suffix "gate" at the end of every new controversy. It's as moronic as saying that someone is going to "kick ass". I'm sick of hearing that someone has "thrown" someone else "under the bus". It's an idiotic expression that our mass media have turned into a cliche in order to save themselves the trouble of writing some original prose. They must think they have an audience of idiots, I suppose. Maybe they're right...or maybe they've made it that way.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Songwronger
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 09:08 PM

The article, regardless of where it comes from, uses relevant quotes to make a very damning case. The witch is in a world of trouble.

My favorite recent photo of her. She looks like Jabba the Hutt.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/LKSKGTvKl7EThZj9oQDdMQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNTM7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenf

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 09:14 PM

ShitWringer: Blo......... well, you know what to do.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Songwronger
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 09:26 PM

So, what are your politics, Greg F.? I don't think I've read any of your posts. Are you a partisan? Do you support the Democratic fascists or the Republican fascists? Obama just created a new executive order to give himself the power to seize any American's bank account. Do you have the guts to critize Obama, knowing that now? The E.O. won't be rescinded by Romney, either, so will you have the guts to criticize Romney if he's elected, knowing he can take all your money?

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: gnu
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 09:50 PM

I'd chime in if I thought I had something funny to say. Otherwise, I have no reason for commenting on twaddle.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 10:02 PM

I'm not so sure Hillary is 'dead' behind all this, but the Obama administration has done itself no favours in blaming your State Department. I agree that if the Clinton Democrats get teed off enough, that Obama has just lost a LOT of votes, and would probably lose the election, as I also commented on the Biden thread.
The Obama administration is indeed in dire straights if the public perceives them as a bunch of deceitful liars.I think it would be wise for his supporters demand that he and Biden be honest.
I'm not a Romney supporter but really people, how does anyone rally behind such nonsensical foolishness and still wish to be taken seriously?
Obama already has an uphill battle to fight in explaining all his broken promises, does he not? and the Republicans are going to use it against him relentlessly and get away with it!!

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 10:03 PM

It is for threads like this that the phrase BS was invented...

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: GUEST,DDT
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 10:12 PM

People, really. Just google "Freedom Outpost" and you'll learn everything about them that you need to know. I've warned everybody in here once already: NEVER TRUST RIGHT WING SOURCES!!!!!!! They can NEVER be taken at face value EVER.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 10:15 PM

or left wing sources, either!

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: gnu
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 10:16 PM

NO! NAY say I, Bill D. BS threads can be started by anyone and they can post anything. That is Mudcat. That is free speech. That is Max.

God Bless the good old USA.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: pdq
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 10:19 PM

...or the New York Slimes, the LA Crimes or the Washington Compost!

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 10:22 PM

Good for you gnu! Hear hear!!

The problem is either 'wing' is going to keep whatever lies it needs to play to their constituents. The right wing has their lies, and the left has their lies. What would be refreshing, is some truth, but if that were known both sides would be scared shitless!

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Songwronger
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 11:01 PM

Damn. Getting an error message on the Jabba the Hutt photo now. Here it is from somewhere else. Hillary was having a high old time blaming some CIA business on al Qeada (wink wink):

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/hillary-aq-e1348724134973.jpg

And while searching for that image I found another one that's pretty spooky:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Jzf-pguZn_4/T1lJIOrwrxI/AAAAAAAAAC4/oPJNHSqRyi8/s1600/Hillary+winking.jpg

What is it with her and that wink? Hideous.

At any rate, it was Clinton's job to make sure the ambassador was safe. She failed. She needs to fall on her sword (the Romans made that one up, I believe, but not the one about the bus). Clinton needs to resign. Holder needs to resign for Fast and Furious. Obama needs to resign for just being. This is a failed administration, and the failure will pave the way for even more of the austerity that Obama promised us. He delivered, but people seem to have confused the word "austerity" with "prosperity." And now it's time for the A-team to take to the field. Romney and Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld--those boys will know how to give you REAL austerity. You accepted a little bit under Obama, so now it's time for the full dose. You see how they work that? It's the same team, just offense and defense.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Oct 12 - 11:21 PM

BillD, back when the BS started, the BS was, in general, a much higher standard. This type of thread, and any other political ones should be in their own section or they need a desnation for easy filtering out. Imagine if we could filter out individual posters!

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 12:48 AM

The moment anyone sees that Songwronger started the thread they know it's going going to be full of spurious accusations against any Democratic or liberal individual or group. Songwronger would be at the top of my list of folks to filter. I'm sure it would be mutual - he can't stand it when people dismiss his idiocy.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 01:49 AM

See?I told you so. Prez al-Obama is a left wing fascist.And being run over by a bus can only make Hillary Clitler prettier.
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Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 08:13 AM

Another puerile thread to ignore...

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 08:54 AM

Puerility? You mean virility.
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Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 09:06 AM

Me thinks the righties need thicker tin foil...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 09:11 AM

I'm not right or left wing. Anarchy sounds good to me.
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Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 09:48 AM

LH-

Are you really saying that there are no conclusions to be drawn about the reliability of a website that provides these *internal* links:

"Obama Administration Sets Stage For Sharia Law In America (Freedom Outpost)"

"Obama Believes that the Future Belongs to Those Who Slander Christ."

Wow. Just how do you judge the reliability of any information?

Or is it all equally valid?

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 11:01 AM

I've always said, taking the Clintons into his administration was President Obama's biggest mistake.....he may have presumed that it was safer to have them working within than plotting outside, but he underestimated Hill n' Bill. They are driven politicians, their ambition knows no bounds and their ego's took a hammering when Hillary failed in her bid for the Democratic nomination.

They will never forgive Pres Obama for thwarting their ambitions.

The Libya Embassy shambles had all the grubby fingermarks of Clinton dirty work.....looks like the President has at last wakened to the danger within.......too late I fear.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: GUEST,highlandman at work
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 11:42 AM

Kat-
Should we propose to Max a line below the line? What would we call it? BBS? or MBS? RRRBS (for really, really, really...)?
The thread topics (usually) give me a pretty good idea of the ones I might want to look into and the ones that will give me a stomach ache.
-Glenn

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 11:57 AM

I did not expand my little attempt at sarcastic humor enough...I was saying that the expanded form of BS was invented (BEFORE Mudcat) to describe the essential nature of such nonsensical whimsey as the proposed concept that THIS thread participates in...

so...Hillary is in trouble? BS!


(and just to add... I guessed who started this thread before I even opened it!)

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 12:10 PM

No Bill, President Obama is in trouble and Hill n' Bill will dance around the bonfire of his administration.

Their time will come.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 12:14 PM

Prez al-Obama has been in over his head since birth.
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Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 12:22 PM

HtH is off to Peru to give an address on "female empowerment".

Such sweet irony.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 02:32 PM

You have an argument with someone, TIA, but I don't think it's me. Those links sound pretty hilarious, allright. As for the website, I haven't seen it, so I can't say for sure, but the link titles you posted don't give me much confidence.

What does puzzle me about a lot of people here, though, is this: they NOTICE whenever Songwronger criticizes Obama. They seemingly do NOT notice when Songwronger criticizes Romney...Bush...or the Republicans! They neither notice nor comment. It goes right by them like it was invisible. And Songwronger DOES criticize Romney, Bush, and the Republicans. Very much so. Songwronger voted for Obama in 2008, for heaven's sake!

So why do they not notice when Songwronger attacks the Right? Selective blindness? Or would it just be inconvenient, because they could not then pigeonhole Songwronger as a stereotypical "Rightwinger", thus sparing themselves of the effort of actually paying any real attention to anything he says?

This is mental laziness, people. Or it's letting a personal feud overcome your ability to be fair and rational. Or both.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 02:35 PM

By the way, Bill Clinton is out there right now pinchhitting quite strenuously for Obama. I don't think he'd be doing so if the administration was putting Hillary out to pasture.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 03:29 PM

"...when Songwronger attacks the Right?"

Hmmm? He really has?

"One swallow doth not make the Spring"... maybe I got stoned, and I missed it

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 03:31 PM

Sorry to disagree Hawk, but I think crafty ole Bill may be pinchhittin' for the Democrats, who "at the moment" take the form of Mr Obama.

There's quite a difference.....They would not wish to completely demolish their base?

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 03:41 PM

That's exactly what I'm saying, Ake...Bill Clinton is pinchhitting for the Democrats, and at the moment that means helping Obama beat Romney. It doesn't mean helping Obama forever, needless to say. I think Hillary may still have ambitions to become president.

BillD - Yeah, I guess you must've been stoned on those occasions. ;-) I could go back through a lot of Songwronger's posts and block and past a whole bunch of times he's criticized the Right...the question is, is it worth my time to do so? ;-D Probably wouldn't change anything anyway. But it would be fun to make you aware of the times you've been stoned and missed what he said.

What it amounts to is this: a lot of people here only react when their own ox is being gored. Or when they're ganging up together to merrily stone a despised heretic or outsider and congratulate each other for doing so. Other than that, they're asleep most of the time.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 03:46 PM

Hear!!!Hear!!!
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Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Ed T
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 04:23 PM

Potential sub categories for BS:

Right-wing BS
Left-wing BS
Wing-nut BS
Winging it BS (aka, no wing to fly on BS)

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 04:52 PM

Personally, I think the participants in mudcat BS do pretty well, considering the different nationalities, differences in humour and culture etc.

The only problem is politics, we are extremely fucked up, most of us have not a clue what we really believe in, or the values of alternative opinions.

This is really a forum for disgruntled liberals, who are old enough to know that society is disintegrating, but too young to accept that there is no Father Christmas?

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Ed T
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 05:14 PM

""society is disintegrating""

How so, and on what (or who's) measuring scale?

Change, which is always occuring, is not necessarily a form of disintegration.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 05:35 PM

Political extremists tend to be an emotional mess. Screwed up in every way possible.
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Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 06:48 PM

I can assure you win or lose Hillary isn't interested, she will work on their non profit foundation and wait for a grandbaby .. so dance away, she could care less

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Songwronger
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 06:48 PM

There seem to be a lot of posts here from people saying they won't deign to comment. Pretty humorous.

I am middle of the road. I like FDR's programs. Obama is gutting them. He's wrecking the FDR and LBJ safety nets. Obamacare is gutting Social Security. This is also what the Republicans want to do. Obamacare is based on Romneycare.

Show me the difference between the candidates.

I find that liberals tend to be closet fascists. Conservative/Republicans are more of the old Mussolini type (fusion of government and corporations), but liberals want that same type of control, only in the hands of a huge governmental bureaucracy. At the end of the day, what does it matter whether Bain Capital or Washington DC, Inc., is taking away your Social Security?

Liberals are control freaks. They want to regulate everything. Conservatives want to be left alone, but in the process of trying to achieve "less government" they let the robber barons achieve ascendancy.

So it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I hate Obama, true, but how could I like Cheney and Rumsfeld? In July of 2001 they changed the 50-year-old protocol for NORAD intercepts. Couple of months later NORAD stood down on 9/11. Afterward Cheney and Rumsfeld re-set to the old protocols. They were in the key control positions on 9/11, not by accident, but by design. They are mass murderers and traitors. But Obama's even worse, because he's allowing those monsters to still roam free.

If you support Dems over Reps, or Reps over Dems, you are a chump.

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Ed T
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 07:00 PM

""Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all,""–John W. Gardner

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 07:12 PM

Was the American dream just that, a dream?

American dream?

Subject: RE: BS: Ding Dong the Witch is Dead (Hillary C.)
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 07:12 PM

I agree with Songwronger 100%. Prez al-Obama and The Criminal Junior Bush are like Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber.
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