mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...

Subject: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Max
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 04:49 PM

...without your help. (sorry about that {sheepish-shrug} but I needed to get your attention.)

While we are planning a more organized/sophisticated/less-poorly-timed fund raiser in January 2013, we could use some funds now to keep the fires of progress stoked thru December.

You see, mudcat.org is in the process of a major overhaul, which again I will explain in more depth in the very near future. The short version is that we are currently at the mercy of some rather oppressive keepers, namely Microsoft and Adobe, who's software keeps mudcat.org clicking and humming. Keeping that software up to date (something we are WAAAYYY overdue for) is not something we can currently afford (SQL Server - $4,500, Adobe ColdFusion $4,300, Windows Datacenter $4,800). We are essentially redirecting those software license funds to...

So the upgrade is the complete rewriting of mudcat.org, not a single line of code remains of this version which I type into now, to an entirely opensource mudcat. We're going to switch from Microsoft Server to Linux, SQL Server to MySQL, and ColdFusion to primarily PHP and other scripting/ODBC-connectivity/application languages. All of which are free to use and keep up to date.

We've been testing technologies all year and actually have a few different versions of the new mudcat running on varying platforms now. We are ready, at this juncture, to make the database switch. For this I need to employ a database specialist for the data transfer and server setup (who happens to be available for December) as well as hopefully procure some hardware.

I really would like to get started on this now, so I am asking for your help. I know the holiday season is not the best time to ask you to check your fancy-party-clothes pockets and under the couch cushions, I haven't in years' past and certainly wouldn't bother if I didn't think it was important.

Please know that every little bit helps, whenever you can muster. I have some very good people willing to help and they are working as affordable as they can for us here, really generous deals to be sure, we can really get a lot done for very little.

Keeping this short, the best way to contribute in via Paypal. They have been very good to us over the years, cut us a break on their cut cuz we're awesome and allow us to accept any sort of currencies without conversion/transfer/banking fees. The account is [e-mail] which you can enter manually or by clicking the following links and buttons:

USD:

GBP:

EUR:

AUD:

CAD:

If you need to, you can also mail checks or money orders in US currency, ***made out to Max Spiegel*** to:

Max Spiegel
The Mudcat Cafe
PO Box 274
State College, PA 16804

In the UK, the kind kind folks knows as The (UK) Friends of Mudcat can help, hopefully posting below the information you will need to see that the funds are directed such that we can avoid the banking fees usually associated with international bank transfers.

And as always but especially during this holiday season, you can help mudcat by shopping at Amazon using the following links (though our cut won't show up till January and February):
amazon.mudcat.org or amazonUK.mudcat.org or amazonFR.mudcat.org or amazonCA.mudcat.org

The big upside is that once the upgrade is complete, mudcat.org will be completely sustainable on non-member ad clicks. Huuurrrrraaaaayyy! No more ads for members, and God willing, no more of my pesky contribution requests (read: begging). Also, until then, please take this as a reminder that clicking our ads is an extremely important/effective source of revenue for mudcat.org.

Thanks for your time and considerations, and happy holidays.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Will Fly
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:03 PM

Dollars donated.

Good luck,

Will

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: kendall
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:04 PM

Ok folks, time to shift or get off the pike.
Our contribution just became our Christmas gift to each other.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:04 PM

OK Max.
Will do.
keith.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:05 PM

Sent via PayPal.....Sorry it isn't more.


Spaw

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: DebC
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:09 PM

I just put all four of my CDs into the Auction. Opening bid is $45 and I'll donate the shipping. 100% to Mudcat. The auction ends Dec. 7 and CDs will be shipped to the winner on Dec. 8th. You can go to my website to see the CDs and listen to music

Debra Cowan

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: johnadams
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:12 PM

A few dollars more. Every little helps.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: maeve
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:14 PM

I've just sent out my gift, Max.

Thank you for the Mudcat that was, is, and shall become.

Maeve

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:16 PM

Done! Merry Christmas, Mudcat!

Dan

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Ann N
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:22 PM

Sent via Paypal ... every little helps .... :D

have a Merry Christmas

   Ann

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Dug
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:52 PM

Donated via Paypal. Keep up the good work.

Doug Jenner

Subject: RE:mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: sharyn
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:55 PM

Money is the toughest thing for me to come up with at present. May I copy DebC and contribute a CD to the auction? (I have hundreds of them in my closet). And I'll publicize Mudcat's plight -- how 'bout that?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 05:55 PM

Okay, it looks like this is already in operation, but perhaps it needs a little more organisation.

We check the attic for surplus folk books/CDs/etc put them up for auction here. The seller is donating said item(s) plus postage and the buyer donates the winning bid. Though I'd suggest avoiding international shipping.
I know I have at least half a dozen surplus books which I'll check out tomorrow.

Steve

Subject: RE:mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: it'smagic
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:01 PM

What about amazon.de?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue..
From: maeve
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:16 PM

MoorleyMan- For UK 'Catters, Max said, "In the UK, the kind kind folks knows as The (UK) Friends of Mudcat can help, hopefully posting below the information you will need to see that the funds are directed such that we can avoid the banking fees usually associated with international bank transfers."

So one of the UK Friends of Mudcat will, we hope, post soon with donation information.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:19 PM

done. good luck with this.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue
From: bill\sables
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:22 PM

UK Friends of Mudcat have just this week sent a cheque for £300 to Max. I would expect one of the organisers of FOM will post here explaining how you can donate.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: maeve
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:23 PM

The Donate button is working fine for me right now, showing US dollars as the method of payment. Max will sort it.

When I donated, I went straight to Paypal. Folks might want try that if the Donate button doesn't work for them right now.

Subject: RE:mudcat.org cannot afford to continue.
From: artbrooks
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:32 PM

PalPal cash enroute - but please assure me that we aren't going to have to use Linux to access Mudcat when the dust has settled.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: bobad
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:33 PM

It shows US dollars but when you go through the process it is converted to the currency of your location - at least that's what happened with me.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:38 PM

I could waste the money I just donated on worse things....

Subject: RE:mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:56 PM

Will send a paper check........

Subject: RE:mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 07:19 PM

We too will help keep folk and blues alive, Max.

Postal money order: Yankee bucks, Canuck stamp.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 07:24 PM

You won't have to run Linux to access MC, Art. It's the server's language, not that of the person accessing the site. MANY servers use Unix or Linux and you can access their sites just fine.

Subject: mudcat
From: kendall
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 07:25 PM

Damn straight!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 07:40 PM

It's not a lot, but donation made through PayPal.
I'll watch the auctions with interest.

I'm considering adding a copy of the Scottish Students Song Book, but I can only cover the postage if it's a UK buyer.
Is there any UK interest? (PM me if so)

Cheers

Nigel

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 07:46 PM

I donated a good portion of the budget of Mudcat years and years ago when it was required through the auction and otherwise and I know others who did so as well. I was flush back then. I ain't flush now... FAR from it. Took some severe hits due to health problems and the economic downturn and others. But this is just as dire and perhaps moreso than it was back then so I am gonna scratch up some scratch and do my part. This community of wonderful, intelligent, talented... and so on, as you know... people... would be a GREAT loss for me if it was gone.

See you at auction. Anyone who don't know my history at auction... don yer big boy pads.

Subject: RE:mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Janie
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 08:01 PM

Thanks 999 and Nigel.

Donation sent. Paypal button worked fine for me.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 08:03 PM

It's not supposed to allow people to post HTML tags, so maybe that's it. I'll see if this goes through.

I'll send some $$, but I just got my first oil bill today, so I ain't loaded. I think the whole point is for a lot of people to donate, so we don't need a small number of people with deep pockets.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue..
From: John Routledge
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 08:04 PM

FRIENDS OF THE MUDCAT

Payments in UK pounds can be made direct into the above account which is UK bank based and these funds are transferred to Max without foreign exchange fees being payable. Thus very cost effective.

If anyone who wishes to donate in £Sterling sends me a PM I will let them have bank details to make an online payment direct to the bank
Payment can also be made via cheque or bank transfer in the usual way.

Let me have any questions via the thread or PM

Thanks in advance

Subject: RE: donation
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 08:18 PM

Had you asked for donations of debt I could have given much more but I gave what I could squeeze out at the time being covered in book publishing debt- but if I sell more books well then....I can give more

http://www.cbladey.com

buy books help me give more to mudcat.....

thanks for being here.....

Conrad

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: BanjoRay
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 08:42 PM

All done - hope we all contribute enough - times are hard!

Ray

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: woodyguth3
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 08:44 PM

Am happy to help. Just did my part.
- Tom

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 08:46 PM

I done did a donation. Now I think I'll sell some books from my personal collection to help the Mudcat. Duplicates, probably...a dup of my first folio of Shakespeare (autographed by Bill, of course), the duplicate Guttenberg bible, the duplicate autographed Bible, my autographed photo of Jesus...stuff like that.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 08:47 PM

Well, I could fix it, but I don't usually negate what Max hath wrought. Let this be a test, to see how well posters follow the instructions to remove the HTML tags from the message title.

-Joe-

P.S. I put a check in the mail tonight, Max.

Subject: RE:mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 08:48 PM

Rap,
You can't really have an autographed photo of Jesus. Ball-pens hadn't been invented then!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 09:11 PM

I ain't touchin' that one, Nigel.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 09:36 PM

Max-

Donation on the way via credit card.

Best of luck!

Charley Noble

Subject: RE:mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 09:58 PM

just sent some from my Rog and me. remember folks, a "widow's mite" can really add up

exciting news, Max!!

luvyakat

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Deckman
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 10:32 PM

the money is in the mail Max. Thanks ... bob(deckman)nelson

Subject: mudcat org. cannot afford to continue
From: Ron Davies
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 11:29 PM

Ditching Macroslop and going to Linux sounds like a great idea. I'll be glad to vote with my wallet for that.


Ron

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 11:55 PM

OK, 999, I gotta try it. I don't quite believe you, but maybe you're right.

...and if the rest of you havne't donated, please do.

I did, even though I agree with the complaint about Mudcat being slow earlier this week.

-Joe-

---

Nope. Didn't work for me. I don't know why things work differently for 999.....

Subject: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue.
From: Genie
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 12:39 AM

Will do what I can, Max, going to Amazon via Mudcat, buyins some Mudcat CDs, etc.   Will help spread the word too.

Gotta feed the (mud) kitty!


Genie


And, Gargoyle, the loo is not the place for flowers (though there's great fertilizer there).

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue.
From: Neighmond
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 12:54 AM

Well, I just paypaled some along.....not nearly as much as I wish I could but such as it was.

Cheers!

Chaz

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 01:15 AM

goodonya, Max, keep up the good work

sent my bit & the receipt arrived in my Inbox before I even logged out of Paypal!

sandra

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: georgeward
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 01:35 AM

Done! Love PayPal. Go 'cat!

Subject: RE:mudcat.org cannot afford to continue..
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 09:22 AM

I would prefer to just donate directly through my paypal account. I don't mind paying fees on my side. Do it all the time when I send money to kids in the US. Max or Joe please PM me the email address for the mudcat paypal account.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 09:23 AM

Evidently one doesn't have to be a Paypal member to use a credit card to make a donation, as I've just done.

Oh, and I just delete the BOLD COMMANDS in the subject box and my posts seem to go right through.....to somewhere.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 09:30 AM

As always I'll send some cash when I'm flush, not likely this side of Xmas, though.

RtS

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 09:47 AM

My contribution made via the paypal donate button, with no problems.

Pete

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue..
From: artbrooks
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 09:52 AM

@Tam - the Mudcat account at PayPal is "[e-mail]".

BTW, still having to remove the "" and "" to send.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: My guru always said
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 09:52 AM

Sent by Paypal - not a lot, but every penny counts!
Anything else I can do, I will!
Hil x

Subject: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Jim McLean
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 10:01 AM

Donation sent.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Janet and Tony - not logged in
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 10:07 AM

Donated via Paypal - no problem - wish it was more.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: saulgoldie
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 10:24 AM

Gotta keep Mudcat going! It is part of my sanity routine. $$ sent.

Saul

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: CupOfTea
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 10:30 AM

I hate not having any money to spare when a situation comes up to support something that means a great deal to me, and Mudcat does.

All I can offer is some of my beadwork jewelry. My beadwork has been worn and cherished by such lovely folks as Caroline Paton, Sally Rogers, Anne Hills, Phil Cooper (Dave Para warned Phil he could be mugged for the beaded hatband I did for him), Cathy Barton, Margaret Nelson, Lou Berryman (as seen on the cover of "The Universe 14 Examples"), R.P. Hale, Judy Cook & a number of others I can't call to mind right now.

I've never participated in a Mudcat auction & all I could find there were DebC's CD set as mentioned above. Now I KNOW there are crafters among the folk community & Sally Rogers and Louie Berryman are both avid beaders - would putting packets of unusual beads up for auction be reasonable?

I wonder - with Secret Santa being something that goes on regularly, could putting nifty things up for auction to benefit Mudcat become a "go to" place for shopping?

I can't put my beadwork where my pixels are until perhaps Sunday or Tuesday - wicked busy musical schedule this weekend & I don't have much inventory left as I haven't been doing any beadwork for the last couple years while concentrating on making music.

Joanne in Cleveland

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 10:44 AM

Have to wait for SS check the end of December. But I will give what I can.
SINS

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,John from Kemsing
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 11:03 AM

Dollars on their way. Here`s hoping!
John

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 11:19 AM

Donated via PayPal. Merry Christmas, Max.
- Phil and Michelle

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Girl Friday
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 11:51 AM

Hi Max. how are you doing ? I
I've aked for the details of the UK Bank Transfer. So much less hassle.

I just phone my bank and they do it. It's going to be worth paying to get rid of those annoying ads.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Max
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 12:09 PM

Thanks all. Fixing bugs, correcting errors, adding options...

Try these doohickies:

USD:

GBP:

EUR:

AUD:

CAD:

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 12:31 PM

donation sent

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,John Foxen
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 12:39 PM

Just paypalled a very small donation (times is hard) but if everyone who uses this invaluable resource does the same it should add up to a reasonable sum.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 12:58 PM

Paypalled donation.

Good luck!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 01:02 PM

Thanks, Max. That was easy. (Yesterday I gave up midway setting up a PP account- with your latest Donation button it went right on through.)

Long live Mudcat! Long live Max!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: r.padgett
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 01:05 PM

credit card works no PayPal needed

Ray

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 01:09 PM

i have donated, this site is an excellentforum

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 01:28 PM

Pay Pal'd - And if the Cat DOES go belly Up I want it back !!! LOL

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: stallion
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 01:48 PM

Small contribution done!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: michaelr
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 01:52 PM

Donation sent.

Much easier that the 100+ hours I spent working on the "This Is Us" CD series...

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 02:00 PM

Cheque from me in the post. Long may Mudcat flourish!

~Michael~

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: DebC
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 02:03 PM

So far, Nigel Paterson has the winning bid for my CDs. I am sure Nigel is a great guy, but we cannot let him off this easy. Also, Gnu put his money where his mouth...er...uh...fingers are. Check out the auction and let's get some bids in.

Debra Cowan

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: pavane
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 02:05 PM

Small contribution sent

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 02:33 PM

DebC:
So far, Nigel Paterson has the winning bid for my CDs. I am sure Nigel is a great guy, but we cannot let him off this easy. Also, Gnu put his money where his mouth...er...uh...fingers are. Check out the auction and let's get some bids in.
That's Nigel Parsons, not the other Nigel.

Cheers

And yes, come on, join the bidding!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 03:14 PM

Small Paypal donation sent with many thanks to Max. Wish it could be more.

Rhiannon and Mick

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Irene M
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 03:16 PM

Done.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: fat B****rd
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 03:31 PM

I'm sorting out a donation and hope to confirm later.
Charlie.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 03:56 PM

Done via doohickies. If it all goes tits upwards the donation was for past joy.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 04:26 PM

Check out my auction.........

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 04:47 PM

I want to donate and I will find a way but I grow frustrated. I have a seldom used pay pall account that does not seem to work. When I try to follow the link to pay direct from my credit card it keeps sending me to PayPall that I do not want! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I'll try later!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: vectis
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 05:33 PM

Sent via Max's first set of links, no problemmo.

I hope the cat is in good fettle so I can keep in touch with my folkie friends from the southern hemisphere.

G'Luck Max and Happy Christmas

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 05:35 PM

Max, I voided the check I gave you in October. Just tear it up, it's not any good any more. You can't cash it. If money disappears from my account I'll sic the cops on ya. You never cashed it, so you don't need that money.




(Mind you, I doubled the amount via PayPal....)

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 05:40 PM

Contribution made via the paypal donate button which appeared at bottom left of screen by Magic, with no problems

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 06:44 PM

Ok, wrassled with paypal for 20 minutes last night, and another 20 minutes just now. Not worth the aggravation.

You are, though. You'll have to settle for a check in the mail : )

Dani

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: henryclem
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 06:45 PM

Donation made by Paypal - no problem.

I would be happy to donate a goodly percentage of my CD sales proceeds as well, if anybody ever bought 'em !

Henry

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Spectacled Warbler
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 07:00 PM

Credit card donation via your donate GBP link above, no problem, didn't have to open a Paypal account.

Good luck, don't want to lose Mudcat, it's valuable.

Joy

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 07:04 PM

Well I think it went this time via PayPal even though I was trying to send it direct. I hate banks, online or close up! The bastards always want me to jump through their hoops, and I can't jump for shit!
In any case wht is important is that Max gets the money and I hope that is the case! If there is a problem Max please PM me.
                     Sandy

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: sciencegeek
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 07:08 PM

added my small bit...

always glad to see Linux over Microtheft

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 07:56 PM

I sent my two bits.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 09:09 PM

Max   ... you have created a phenominom..
I lack a vision for the next level...but my faith and support are behind you 100%.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

I trust that the DT and Dick and Susan will continue to be center core ... and BS contines in the lower kingdom.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 09:46 PM

Ol' hillbilly has been in a financial trick bag for a while but...

...hopefully things will turn around as I have 3 irons in the fire and any one of them will allow me to throw at least $100 into the pot...

B~

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: framus
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 10:16 PM

£20 via Paypal. Not a lot, but all I could afford.
Good luck, I've had a lot of fun (and some trauma!) here.
Keep it up, cheers.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Joe_F
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 10:55 PM

It worked this time. Hooray for the coincidence of two blessings -- free software & the Mudcat!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Newport Boy
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 05:52 AM

Donation sent - a bit more than usual, but it's worth it if you're getting away from Microsoft. I made the shift a few years ago.

Phil

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: sciencegeek
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 06:37 AM

OK... technoklutz is confused by the Amazon thing...

I click the link & it seems to just take me to my regular account... how do I update my account to give you a "piece of the action"?

inquiring minds want to know...

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Marmdad
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 06:57 AM

Its on the way.
Richard

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Broadside Man
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 06:59 AM

Done via paypal

Geoff

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: banjoman
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 07:36 AM

Done - via paypal. its not much but hope it helps.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Morticia
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 07:47 AM

done

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 08:24 AM

Done by Paypal

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: maeve
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 08:29 AM

I'm also keeping Max's note in mind:

"...While we are planning a more organized/sophisticated/less-poorly-timed fund raiser in January 2013, we could use some funds now to keep the fires of progress stoked thru December."

I'll try to put aside something from my non-existent income to step up to the plate in January.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Waddon Pete
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 10:56 AM

My contribution sent via Paypal.

Best wishes,

Pete

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 11:24 AM

@sciencegeek, if you follow the link to Amazon, directly from Mudcat, you don't have to do anything else. Max has it set up so that Amazon automatically calculates the cut, etc. Easy-peasy.:-)

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gecko
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 06:52 PM

Small donation but gladly given.
YIU
gecko

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 07:25 PM

Too-small check written and in stamped, addressed envelope. It should go out in tomorrow's mail.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 07:44 PM

Folks, nothing is too small when the majority give a little...it all adds up. Just think, if one hundred sent in ten bucks each, that's a thousand dollars right there. And, I know there are some who can and do give more which balances out those of us who struggle for even a divorcee's/widow's/self-employed's mite.

From little mites come:

MIGHTY MITES!!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: JedMarum
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 10:13 PM

Will send ASAP, have to juggle a bit but can send a check before Santa flies, fer sure!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 11:17 PM

Donated via PayPal. Good luck, Max, and thanks.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: BK Lick
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 01:57 AM

Done did the deed with PayPal. Lang may yir lum reek wi ither fowk's coal, Max!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 03:30 AM

Paypal dollars sent. Wish it could have been more.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 03:41 AM

Last one was me, without cookie.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Rog Peek
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 03:44 AM

Done with paypal. Thanks for your efforts Max.

Rog

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: alex s
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 07:10 AM

Donation sent.
Thanks for the hours of enjoyment, advice and (sometimes) enlightenment.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: fat B****rd
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 07:14 AM

What alex s just said.
It's on it's way.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,vectis at work
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 07:42 AM

some dosh is winging its way to you via PayPal.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 07:50 AM

Done by Paypal

Thanks Max!

Kitty

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: treewind
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 08:24 AM

Done by PayPal.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: treewind
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 08:39 AM

I must add that I thoroughly approve of the technology change. And no, of course you won't need Linux to get onto Mudcat - most of the internet's web servers already run on the same free software Max is using: Linux, Apache, MySQL etc. and the internet was built on Unix (in one form or another) long before Microsoft came to join in the fun.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,John Foxen
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 10:08 AM

Henryclem wrote:
I would be happy to donate a goodly percentage of my CD sales proceeds as well, if anybody ever bought 'em !

Aren't you the chap who wrote the beautfiul Needle And Thread? I've already paypalled a small donation but if I can solve an Xmas present problem as well as help mudcat I'll gladly buy your CD with Needle And Thread on.
Can you email me at [e-mail] about it.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Girl Friday
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 02:30 PM

I haven't had a reply to my pm re Friends of The Cat.So it looks like I don't want to give. Will I have to use PayPal instead ?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: John Routledge
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 03:13 PM

Details on way Girl Friday Sorry you were missed :0(

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: maeve
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 03:15 PM

Thank you, John.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 04:31 PM

Mudcat is unique & it's survival is essential. It has enriched my life; introduced me to many wise, funny, compassionate people. Mudcatters have consoled me, advised me, made me laugh & cry, but above all, they have been there, frequently with complete disregard for their own problems & worries. I have a group of Friends spread around the globe who I love & trust. They are a true extension of my Family & to live without them would be unthinkable.
       Thank you Max & all the good Folk who help you. I've sent what I can afford; I hope it helps,
       Most Sincerely,
                              Nigel.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 04:37 PM

Job done via Paypal. Can't imagine life without the 'cat.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 05:21 PM

I still want a G** damned hat! BUT, if youse guys decide to do that, PLEASE contact me for advice on WHICH hat. If it's a crappy hat that I won't wear, I ain't gonna buy one. And, as far as crests for hats go? Who is gonna buy a crest and then pay a crapload for a hat without a crest to put the crest on? Surely there is a large market for hats? I mean, with the average age of Mudcat menz at far more than all of us menz like, there has got to be a lot of us that NEED a G** damned hat! Summer is sunny, winter is cold. I NEED a hat!

Deb C said she would send the auction CDs (her auction is STILL on so BID!) even though I ain't gonna be able to send Max the C-note fer at least a week on accounta I am switching banks and it's complicated.

A woman who trusts me? Now, there's a concept!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Beer
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 05:48 PM

I love hats. I collect them as well. But I am fussy. So like what Gnu said, don't make them crappy.
ad.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 07:43 PM

A bit sent now, and will follow with more when I can...

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 08:58 PM

Perhaps a nice orange beret with the MC crest. Or better, a Diamante 1000X silverbelly or black Stetson with an MC crest right in the front, just above that plain ol' hatband it comes with. Or a tall opera hat -- just the thing for busking.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 11:38 PM

I did get my check into the mailbox this morning.

I understand that Mudcat is nonprofit, but does it have status with the IRS so that we can deduct our donations from our income taxes? If not, is there a Mudcat member who could set that up--with Max's approval, of course? I'm okay now, but in the future it might be less painful to donate if I could deduct it at income tax time.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: The Barden of England
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 03:15 AM

Paypal donation sent.
John Barden

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,OldNicKilby
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:53 AM

Donation sent from Young No More, easy peazy with Paypal
Keep Mudcat alive , one of the best things on the web

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: s&r
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:08 AM

Happy Xmas Mudcat - pressy sent

Stu

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: nickp
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:15 AM

Done. Mudcat is much appreciated.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,OldNicKilby
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 08:05 AM

If you are going to put stuff on ebay include "mudcat" in the description ,then we may raise a lot more

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,buddhuu sans cookie
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 09:36 AM

Modest contribution sent by PayPal. Will top it up a bit next payday.

Thanks for the site, Max.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: DebC
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 10:12 AM

Again, check out the auction. One of Don's beautiful bracelets, Jacqui's exquisite crochet work and my CDs. Let's get some more bids there so that Max doesn't have to ask us for a very very long time.

Deb Cowan

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Girl Friday
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 11:32 AM

I got the bank details through - thanks. However my voice is quite croaky and I decided against setting up a bank transfer straight away. I sent my donation just now by paypal. A reasonable ammount as I've been using the service for years and never gave before. Hope the target is met really soon.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Vixen
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:55 PM

Don't remember when I last contributed...donation paypalled to you!
Thanks be to Max and all the Joe-Clones, the Digitrad and all generous Mudcats!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Speedwell
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 03:44 PM

You're doing a great job at Mudcat. Hope my small contribution helps to make it possible to continue.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: open mike
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:15 PM

I posted on the facebook page about this organization that helps with fundraisers...http://www.kickstarter.com/ Perhaps they can help give a boost...people often use this to fund recordings, films, and other creative projects.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Frug
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:22 PM

Paid by Paypal....

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Janie
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:38 PM

And don't forget to check out the offerings in the auction - all proceeds to Mudcat.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Snuffy
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:28 AM

It's on its way

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Mr Red
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:30 AM

consider it done.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: JHW
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 08:26 AM

A few quid on its way and hopefully it'll all add up
Wonder if you could programme an auto 'stay up the list' for this thread?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Girl Friday
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 09:21 AM

Re above post - members can trace threads, as I've done. It's staying up pretty good anyway.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 09:42 AM

Sent. With pleasure.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Kookie-less - Kampervan
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 11:55 AM

Paypal worked its magic.A little bit more is on its way.

Wouldn't like to see Mudcat die.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: leeneia
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 12:00 PM

So, Max, how are we doing? I'm willing to donate. I have donated before and can do again.   On the other hand, hungry kids, the local women's shelter and Africans fighting malaria need my money too.

You understand what I'm saying?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: John Routledge
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 12:19 PM

Paying four cheques totalling £100 sterling into Friends of The Mudcat bank account which will be transfered to Max.

Others have paid direct to FoTM account or via Paypal.

Thanks all. And Max.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Marc Bernier
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 02:04 PM

Just saw this. I got no job, no money, and gigs a few and far between lately. But I just put 2 of my Cds up for auction. All the money will come here should anyone want to buy them.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Suzy T.
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 02:09 PM

Just sent my bit, thank you Max for Mudcat (and the rest of the community too)
Suzy Thompson

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: JJ
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 02:53 PM

I never knew you were based in State College, a town with which I have had some experience from 1965 to the present.

Sent $25 via PayPal, part of the fruits of my ebay sales...

JJ

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 08:22 AM

What the H... I reckon I can afford to send something before Xmas. Done via PayPal.
RtS

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Sheila
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 08:41 AM

Done.
Bless this site.
Thanks and appreciation.
Sheila

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 12:25 PM

Marc Bernier, thanks for adding to the auction and may you have more prosperous times come your way.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Guest Vivienne
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 04:32 PM

Done via Paypal

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 05:17 PM

Okay, okay. Let's slow down on the donations, eh? I mean, if people just keep sending in money willy-nilly, Spaw won't need to come in here like he did on other passed fund raisers and kick some ass. Trust me, it's fun. He has a unique way of kicking ass.

Hmmm... an auction? Highest bidder gets Spaw to deliver a serious ass kickin in the winning bidder's name to all the deadbeats who "use" this sight and can afford to donate a donut or two but don't ?

Yeahhhh... I agree... dumb idea. Spaw will do it anyway if he feels the need. Soooo, donate outright and bid in the auction as per your ability and as per your appreciation of the BEST, bar none, site on the internet. The musical community is top notch and the freedom of speech Max is dedicated to preserving, both above and below the line, at many costs to him over these years of his service to all of us, in the way he does, is unequalled as far I know.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 05:40 PM

OK, dunnit by credit card following the GBP button: although a Paypal screen comes up in parallel, I don't think it means that you're paying via Paypal. I used to have a Paypal account but then got a lot of scammy emails about "updating your account" so lost faith in it: I couldn't be sure if I was getting genuine emails or spoof/phishing ones!
I was first introduced to Mudcat by the guy who was recording my son and his band: I said something about wanting to get the lyrics of a song I liked, and the guy said "Try Mudcat" - sure enough I got them!
So this must be about 12-13 years ago: thanks Mudcat!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 06:16 PM

Sent a bit, hope it helps.
The world would be a sad place without mudcat

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Young Buchan
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 07:22 PM

Another day, another dollar.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 08:57 PM

Thank you all who have put up items for the auction.

Marc, will we see you at Mystic's Chantey Blast? I've started a thread about it here on Mudcat.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 05:52 AM

OK folks. Donate ...or I'll sing!

RtS

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: CET
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 02:52 PM

I'm in.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: mg
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 03:17 PM

I will put up one tugboat cd and two potato famine cds for the auction, although i am not sure how it works.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: open mike
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 02:35 AM

remind me how to benefit mudcat with an amazon purchase?
I am planning to get new batteries for my video camera
and would like to help out the cat by using the link

how to do?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: open mike
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 02:38 AM

ok i found it...
And as always but especially during this holiday season, you can help mudcat by shopping at Amazon using the following links (though our cut won't show up till January and February):
amazon.mudcat.org or amazonUK.mudcat.org or amazonFR.mudcat.org or amazonCA.mudcat.org

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Max
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 02:38 AM

Just use these URL's and we get 7%.

amazon.mudcat.org or amazonUK.mudcat.org or amazonFR.mudcat.org or amazonCA.mudcat.org

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 06:19 PM

Max... please PM me back. I gotta make a decision by Tuesday at noon.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 06:21 PM

BTW... I dunno if Max did anything but Mudcat is loading superfast for me these days.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 07:16 PM

Yeah...he is using a different server system that IS fast.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 07:17 PM

It's slow only at peak demand and it's pretty fast even then.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: BK Lick
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 08:46 PM

Just donated an additional $55 via PayPal in payment of my winning bid in Debra Cowan's auction.

I reckon this is the 174th message in this thread, of which about 130 have included a contribution. Good goin' everbody!

—BK

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,carol
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 08:54 PM

Contributed-have leaned so much about the old time authentic music here as a newbie dulcimer player.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Mr Red
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 10:43 AM

Max
I buy from Amazon.co.uk
there are two conflicting decisions
1) Is Amazon.co.uk included in the deal?
2) they are stingy on the old corporation tax here in the UK.

Tough decision when choosing a vendor, need data.

FWIW most things sold on Amazon.co.uk can be found cheapest via amazon direct. Tells the story very succinctly.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Charmion
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 10:59 AM

gnu, I for one would pay money to witness a first-class arse-kicking by the esteemed Professor Spaw.

Edmund has dibbed in for us. Our lives would be much duller without the Cat.

Go Max!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Haruo
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 11:46 AM

I can't contribute $$ till January, but am interested to know how the effort is proceeding.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 12:00 PM

From:Beer - PM
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 05:48 PM

I love hats. I collect them as well. But I am fussy. So like what Gnu said, don't make them crappy.

ad.

********************************************************************

Being the fashion Nazi that I am, here's the latest in hot cotur from Labrador.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 12:19 PM

My what a slim young man in that photo g I'm not sure whether you took that pic in a mirror, or if ya had yer head on BTF at the time ;)

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Beer
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 12:23 PM

I didn't recognize him as well. Must be that beer diet you're on eh!
ad.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Barb'ry
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 12:33 PM

Done - Merry Christmas, Max xxx

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 01:55 PM

Some might disagree with the title of the diet Beer. As some might have reecognized the logo on the tee in that pic as the Budweiser logo. But, the Bud Diet worked... 110 pounds. Doesn't work for everyone, tho... some drink the beer and then don't give a hoot if they are fat. >;-)

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Gurney
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 01:56 PM

I'd like to make a contribution, but I'm a bit skint.

What I do have is a couple of books. A copy of 'Real Sailor Songs' by John Ashton, and a signed copy of 'Shanties from the Seven Seas' by Stan Hugill.

I'm not sure if it is worth anyone's while buying them, as the freight is likely to be impressive, they are fairly heavy and I live in New Zealand. Does anyone want to comment?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 02:02 PM

Gurney, we have all been skint a time or two. Send Max some cash when things have improved at your end.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 02:11 PM

So, Max, how about a progress report? Has enough been raised to keep Mudcat going for awhile, and if so, an estimate on how long that might be? Obviously this fundraising is going to have to take place from time to time, but it would be heartening to hear a time frame for how long it can keep going on what is raised, realizing of course that unexpected and expensive things do sometimes happen!
Suzy T.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 02:37 PM

Gnu, you will become to hats what Don Cherry is to jackets.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 09:50 PM

9... good one!

Suzy T... that ain't gonna happen and fer good reason. Max has been chewin wooden nickels fer years. Fact is, even if he got twice what he needed (not bloody likely!) fer a year, there is always next year.

Fer anyone who can't spare a dime... CLICK ON THE ADVERTS!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Brian Peters
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 07:14 AM

Small contribution made, more to follow...

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 03:17 PM

Max... if you haven't checked my PMs, delete them. Scored a free money order at my new bank.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 12 Dec 12 - 03:16 PM

I'll be donating once again.

Meanwhile, I wonder if money would be saved in the long run if ugly non-music threads where people are insulting one another could be cut off with "Sorry, we don't have the electricity for this."

Could the links to the amazon pages where Mudcat gets a cut be added to QuickLinks?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 12 Dec 12 - 05:49 PM

DebC snagged $210 for Mudcat in the auction! Give the lass a round of applause!!!

Click on the ads as much as possible Mudcatters... it's free and it helps YOU!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Dec 12 - 06:41 PM

applause applause applause

but don't forget to spend enough time with the ad to have been able to read it, a quick click is not counted

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: frogprince
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 08:30 PM

Just paypalled my last 37 cents   : )

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Beer
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 09:40 PM

You could have sent a little more if you hadn't bought a stamp for that beautiful post card you send. Thank you.BTW.
Ad.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Lizzie
Date: 14 Dec 12 - 03:22 PM

Small donation sent.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 14 Dec 12 - 03:44 PM

I come here only sporadically, so only just saw this thread, but I have thrown some UKP in via PayPal.

Richard

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Dec 12 - 05:45 PM

Way to go, DebC!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: maeve
Date: 15 Dec 12 - 05:46 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 15 Dec 12 - 10:53 PM

200th post!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Dec 12 - 11:12 PM

No, actually, it was about the 221st post, but others were deleted because they were complaining something wasn't working--then it was.

Must look in on the auction. I completely forgot to check it...

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Girl Friday
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 08:11 AM

It5's going to rival out tone Deaf Leopard thread soon. {:

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,JHW
Date: 17 Dec 12 - 06:51 AM

Mudcashometers aside I wonder if we're getting anywhere near?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: stallion
Date: 17 Dec 12 - 12:37 PM

how long is a piece of string? I saw the wish list and it was an awful lot of money. Judging by the results, a much faster mudcat I would say it has been reasonably successful. I don't know how successful it has been, perhaps Max will update us when he gets back from his hols in the maldives ;o)

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 08:53 PM

The committed have committed.

Perhaps this thread should vanish....It was CLEARLY indentified..."major fund raising" would start in January 2013....

What was requested...was a "triage transfusion" of funds to push Mudcat beyond the immediate "fiscal cliff". The faithful came foreward....in a time of crisis.

Expect to hear the true trumpet call for resources in the new year.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: ollaimh
Date: 20 Dec 12 - 06:32 PM

i used to think mudcat was vasluable, but the hard right turn of many, including some moderators has disillusioned me on that score.

the turning point for me came from two issues. an idiot poster from britian was accusing acadiens of stealing indian land(apparantly ignoring the english ethnic cleansing of acadiesn
and the english ethnic cleansing of the same natives, including putting bounties in their scalps). and the toleration and constant defense of a nazi folk singer who used to sing his hitler youth songs at the vancouver folk song society.

i already knew the english and many american and canadian anglos were biased against the gaels, and ignore that genocide, but i was used to that. but i expected folk singers to stand up against nazis and to condemn racist attacks on acadiens(one of the most peacefull people on earth at the time).

well i no longer think mudcat deserves any money from me. nothing provoded by mudcat is worth the toleration of racism genocide ans bigotry.

i really expected the nazi tolerance to shock and horrify people. instead they seemd to think he was such a nice war criminal . someone you could trust with your children and who sang so sweetly==if you weren't jewish or roma, or homosexual.

mudcat is way too juch a haven for racists and right wing kooks.what happened to folk music?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Gedi -at work
Date: 21 Dec 12 - 07:19 AM

I've not been active on Mudcat for a while but I do use the database occasionaly and find some of the posts interesting, but the Folk World would be worse off without it, so donation made via paypal.

Ollaimh : Interesting what you've said, when I get a chance I'll look into the history of what your talking about. I certainly wouldn't support any kind of racism etc.

Best Wishes for Christmas to you all
Ged

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: stallion
Date: 21 Dec 12 - 03:27 PM

ollaimh - Would it be correct to infer that by the name you are claiming a connection with an ancient irish mystic/doctor? The bitterness you hold in your head has no way forward, you need to move on. The way forward is by way of truth and reconciliation.....followed by a firm commitment not to repeat the wrongs of the past. Now, what of the gael's? are you suggesting that they are without blame for any atrocities that may have happened in the past? You are a hypocrite if you believe they didn't...........so ......... lets live and let live Forgive and remember that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter and any violence is abhorrent.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,SINS
Date: 21 Dec 12 - 03:56 PM

Auctions are ending. Don's bracelet earned $100 to be paid shortly while Jacqui has generously offered to fill each and every wish.
WHOO WHOO

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: kendall
Date: 21 Dec 12 - 04:11 PM

Good thing you are not wanting the same thing I am! LOL

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 04:57 PM

Kendall, the cellar awaits you. (Better take Jacqui with you.)

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Janie
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 06:43 PM

Auction tain't quite over. Bobert is still offering those 10 fine art prints. 60% goes to Max because 40% goes to the expensive cost of printing.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: My guru always said
Date: 30 Dec 12 - 06:53 AM

That Jacqui certainly has busy hands. Hope you're both comfy down in the cellar!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Hollowfox
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 03:47 PM

I just sent a check to the P.O. box. This isn't begging, Max, it's letting us stop mooching, and helping to pull our weight. This place has kept me sane for (mumble) years, so it's only fair. Thanks for letting us know. Much love and respect, Mary

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Genie
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 06:54 PM

Now that I've passed my own "fiscal cliff" of 12-31-12, I'll take the time to clean out my PM stash. That should lighten Max's load a LOT!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 07:23 PM

Progress report?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 07:45 PM

Q... more pennies are required. Or, at least I assume so. The costs stated by Max above are a heck of a lot more then it used to take to run this puppy when I and John (Giok) and Kendall and... and a half dozen others were the major and almost only by percentage contributors.

Seriously, years ago, it only cost Max a portion of what it costs today to maintain a reasonably accessible website. But, the price of food had 4Xd so there it is.

Update? The update is Max is a great guy as he has proven this over the years by providing an amazing website dedicated to freedom of expression with only ONE rule.

If yee 'users' haven't, cough up some coin... it's the best site on the internut.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 07:47 PM

Update on Bobert art prints...

I need 10 folks to step up and commit to buying one of a limited edition (10 numbered prints) to afford to have them printed... All the profits will go the Max, or approximately $600...

Janie is #1...

Who's next???

B~

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 07:49 PM

Opps!!! Each print will be delivered to your door, suitable for framing, for $100...

If you were to purchase a signed, limited print of this quality it would run you 5 times this much... Maybe more...

B~

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: SallyM
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 06:35 AM

Done. Thanks for such a good site.

Sal the Gal

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: kendall
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 08:04 AM

We have one of Bobert's prints, excellent work!

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 09:11 AM

Thank you, Kendall...

So, ya'll... Who wants one??? All profits go to Mudcat!!!

Only 9 left...

B~

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 05 Jan 13 - 05:12 AM

OpenSource? PHP? MySQL? I've never been so excited in my life. And this is the guy who read the BoardGameGeek API last month and started dancing when he realised what he could do with it...

Send us a PM Max if you'd like some help (or if it's on GitHub or similar put a link so us codies can tinker)

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,denny
Date: 12 Jan 13 - 10:09 AM

Well, I TRIED.
When I got "the credit card you entered cannot be used for this transaction" the second time--after having to re-do the page twice--I gave up.

Sorry. But I won't raise my BP to dangerous levels just to give money. I like Mudcat. I visit moderately often.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: maeve
Date: 12 Jan 13 - 10:13 AM

"If you need to, you can also mail checks or money orders in US currency, ***made out to Max Spiegel*** to:

Max Spiegel
The Mudcat Cafe
PO Box 274
State College, PA 16804 "

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Gaynor Gilbert
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 05:30 AM

I wanted to give something to mud at but maybe I am thick but I couldn't see how to do it by card

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Roberto
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 05:35 AM

Done.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Bob Roberts
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 03:22 PM

Oh No!!

I JUST found you!

Please send me a link tu your new site so I can learn more about you.

Please excuse my ignorance of how all of this works, I am an old fart in a new-age world.

Bob

[e-mail]

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Feb 13 - 01:03 PM

That heading is there again.

Progress report?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 06:40 PM

Your dream has been answered

annonymous

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 08:49 PM

And WTF are the hats? I have been bitchin about this for years and others have chimed in.

I haven't sent in straight cash for yearsssss. I figured the auction was the way to go. Even when I didn't want stuff but knew others did I outbid everyone and sent it to the person who really wanted it. Youse know who you are. I think the auction could do even better if people... hmmmm... best left unsaid.

I'll just say this... there are a lot of great musicians herein who cannot afford to put their wares in the auction for less than cost. You do the math when a fund drive is the goal. Not everyone can be as generous as Deb C when this drive started.

Once again... thanks Deb. Ya done good by all of us. (Still enjoyin yer tunes.)

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,elfcape
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 11:22 PM

Shared on FB in hopes of snagging a few more donors. keep the faith, guys.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 10 Feb 13 - 01:13 PM

Max, can we have an update please, how are things going.
Have you got enough yet or do you need more?

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 10 Feb 13 - 04:45 PM

I assume the need is ongoing. Even if the fuel tank is full now, which I doubt, fuel is burned every second that this here Café serves a customer.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,silver
Date: 12 Feb 13 - 05:33 AM

Done what little I could. Just beginning to discover what a goldmine Mudcat is for finding unusual song lyrics. Would be a huge loss if it was closed down. Best of luck to you guys!
Ulla

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,John Foxen
Date: 19 Feb 13 - 07:42 AM

I have just chipped in a tenner which I would have only spent in the approved folk fashion - on beer and loose women. It's not much but I think there's a possibility that if everyone tossed in a couple of pounds or dollars every time they found a song or a piece of information they really wanted on this site then we could keep it going until "fishes fly and swallows die".
I make this posting not to boast of my generosity (which is paltry compared with what some people are doing) but to put this thread up near the top where it belongs.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 20 Feb 13 - 06:27 AM

Nice to see people care enough to keep it up.

I am reminded of past "fund drives" over the past dozen years. The first one that springs to mind, for good reason, was started by Spaw, I seem to recall. If he didn't actually start it, he sure drove it with his offbeat, some might even say absolutely twisted, sick, oft obscene.... AHEM!, sense of humour. I dare say his "prodding" had a LOT to do with the success of that and other fund drives.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Woody Brison
Date: 20 Feb 13 - 10:55 PM

I stick my oar in... here's what cha could do
Ya get an old billboard and paint it all blue
And ya moan 'bout the Mudcat, how it's gettin' all old,
And if folks want to see it keep going, send gold.

Or, here's another little shameful tune,
Tell everybody you might shut down soon,
And you know this is one very fine collection of stuff
And if it goes away, that would really be ruff,
So if folks want it, they can have it, for about one cab fare,
They can buy a CD with the whole shebang on there.

Cheers

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Feb 13 - 11:24 PM

gnu, i think thats all been about Spaw tuning up for a Lenny Bruce Telethon for Mudcat!

cheers to the poet and John's refresh.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 09:30 AM

GWB, re:

if folks want it, they can have it, for about one cab fare,
They can buy a CD with the whole shebang on there.

DT yes.

Threads loaded with the REST of the goldmine, nope.

The continued storage of new goldmines, nope.

~S~

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: GUEST,Eirinn7
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 04:55 PM

Always happy to donate to a very worthy cause . . . I'm just a little late gettin' to the party! Cheers!

-Eirinn7

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 06:42 PM

And here's a link to donation information.

Subject: RE: mudcat.org cannot afford to continue...
From: gnu
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 06:15 PM

Freeresh.