Prince William and Kate expecting a baby

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 02:17 PM

Bu we don't actually know why she did this, or even if it was in fact suicide. I have every sympathy with you and your family, Raggytash; however we should perhaps wait and see what really happened here.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 02:14 PM

Steve, you're probably correct, but even now 36 after the event on September 18th 1976 I can still see the ragged faces of my parents.

Mum is still with us thankfully, aged 88, but I doubt there is a single day goes past without her thinking of the daughter she lost.

If it were not for the hysteria that surrounds the Windors this woman may still be alive with the love and support of a family herself.

One can only surmise.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 02:13 PM

I'm not a royalist (or an anti-royalist for that matter) but I think it's a bit daft to try and blame the royal family itself for this....on a par with blaming Thatcher for every economic error of the Brown government.

If it wasn't royals it'd be some other celebrity who was the "target of the week" for the media...and the media wouldn't do it if they didn't sell more papers by doing it.

(remember the "hilarious" Russell Brand/ Jonathan Ross prank phone call to Andrew Sachs?)

So, if you want to take it to its logical "Spartist" conclusion, "we are all guilty" as the go-ahead Reverend Dr Spacely-Trellis might have said.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 01:55 PM

Well I'm an anti-royalist and I understand that sentiment well, but I think we'd better be careful for a little while before we decide who to "blame."

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 01:45 PM

What price would all the Royalists like to place on the life of Jacintha Saldanha who has seemingly taken her own life.

My sister committed suicide, I saw close up and first hand the devastation it caused to my parents and to the rest of our family.

No doubt you will all blame the media hacks who phoned the hospital, or blame the naive nurse who answered their queries.

I can also guess that not a single one of you will blame the stupid merry-go-round that surrounds the idiocy that is the sycophantic following of the "Royal" Family.

Sleep well Jacintha.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 12:32 AM

Carol Midgley, in her yesterday's Times2 opinion piece, devoted a column headed "That's enough baby talk" to how fed up she is already with all the royal baby stuff, echoing much that has been so predictably said by all the usual-suspect miseries on this thread.

More than one way for a journo to cash in on the occasion, eh?

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 11:33 PM

But, as Allan says, it doesn't matter at all what polls say. Our monarchy is hereditary, not elective.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:53 PM

Actually I got that wrong it is even worse for Charles. Only 39% thought he should inherit it. 48% thought William should! ICM poll earlier this year

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:49 PM

"People are now saying that perhaps it might be best for Charles to stand down as the heir, as a young couple with children would be better as King and Queen when HM passes away."

One of the polls showed that only 48% of people in the UK think that Charles should automatically inherit the throne on the Queen's death. Of course he will inherit it as he is first in line. It isn't an election.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:49 PM

Shimrod, this may astound you but Polly IS busy, because she's trying to get The Law of Ecocide pushed through, travelling all over the world to rustle up support, giving talks, writing books etc...

I'm in contact with her team via Facebook and they're all good people. I promote Polly's talks/pages a great deal and have, just this evening been putting links about her on my page and also Raoni's page which I run as well..

As I write, I've just been told Chief Raoni, Megaron and Bemoro are all in The Netherlands...I have the greatest respect for Chief Raoni, who, despite being in his 80s now has travelled out, yet again, from his Rainforest home, first to France, now the Netherlands and possibly Germany too, (waiting to hear on this one) to try to Wake The World to the dangers we are all facing...

OHHHH! How I WISH the bloody media would have Chief Raoni on ALL their front pages!!!!

And as I write this the howling winds are yet again hitting my windows here with great force...

We're in deep shite folks...I tend to tell it like it is, rather than skirt around it, for we don't have much time to turn this all around...and as our Leaders, unlike Raoni, give sod all about Mother Earth and everything for Continuous Fecking Growth, it seems to me we may have even less time than many of us assume......


Oh..and they interviewd the bloke in Sidmouth who lost half his cliff top garden to the sea a few years back, and he was saying he thought there was around 1,000 years left before his garden and house would have disappeared into the sea. Now, he reckons it will be around 30 years..and there are calls to protect one side of Sidmouth from the raging tides, for there are grave fears that a large part of the town will soon be flooded....

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:23 PM

Prince Charles is actually 5'10". Whence this rumour that he is a short man? Some people would rather believe silly stories than use their own eyes!

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:20 PM

I saw him quite recently at the Sandringham Flower Show, and was surprised that he's actually taller in the flesh than on TV. Believe it or not, he's also quite handsome, as he always looks awful in photos and on The News. But for some reason, I don't take to him or Camilla. Just an impression.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 03:43 PM

I have strong feelings. They should all stand down and the country should use their ill-gotten wealth to reduce the deficit instead of hitting people on benefits, who did nothing to cause the problem. Actually given Charlie's short stature, if he stood down wouldn't he disappear altogether?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 02:23 PM

Catherine has been discharged from hospital. I'm wondering if she didn't have the Winter Vomiting Bug (Norovirus) which is sweeping the country at the moment. My sister had it last week and you vomit ceaselessly for about 36 hours. If so, she should be fine for the rest of her pregnancy. People are now saying that perhaps it might be best for Charles to stand down as the heir, as a young couple with children would be better as King and Queen when HM passes away. I have mixed feelings about this.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:00 PM

LOL, thanks for the cartoon link, Sandy.

Auntie SINS,,,exactly!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Bring on the republic
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:43 PM

Thalidomide, a drug developed to help women overcome the symptoms of morning sickness during pregnancy, is first marketed in West Germany. Forty-six countries approve its use before thalidomide's terrible side effects become apparent.
Thalidomide is a powerful synthetic tranquilizer, originally developed by Ciba, a Swiss pharmaceutical company. Unable to make it commercially profitable, Ciba gave up on the drug. A German company, Chemie Gruenenthal, took over and eventually began marketing thalidomide as a "completely safe" method for warding off morning sickness.

Completely safe for the royal family.
Look at the state they're in already.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:27 PM

As the Pope begins as a Tweeter he wades into the discussion:
Pope

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 02:35 PM

The contempt of the leftie for those he purports to represent is invariably infinite.

Hmm. Well, it wouldn't be variably infinite, would it? Unless you mean "The contempt of the leftie for those he purports to represent is, invariably, infinite."

And I sincerely hope that you're not using "the leftie" in the generic sense there, in the way that the apartheid leaders would talk about "the black man". We don't all hold our fellow lefties in contempt, you know.

Pedantically yours

Steve "leftie" Shaw

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 02:34 PM

The shit that some people espouse is enough to make anyone sick! Hopefuly Kate doesn't read this though. There's only us daft enough to keep ploughing through the same old tripe.

Go for it though. I can take it. I am pretty strong too ;-)

DtG

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 02:05 PM

Then welcome to the Club, leveller!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: theleveller
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 01:54 PM

Well, it looks like Kate's not the only one who got fucked - Osborne's shafted us all and I, for one, am feeling pretty sick.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:50 AM

If you really think, Lizzie, that I am scared of you ("have problems with you") because you are a "strong woman", then let me assure you, with all possible moderation, that you are deluded and mistaken.

All best regards

~Michael~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:34 AM

I once met Polly Higgins and was very impressed with her concept of ecocide. Then one day I wrote to her, merely to supply her with some information. I got a letter back from one of her staff, saying that she was too busy to reply!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:12 AM

I of course did not know that, and much regret any inadvertent distress I have caused by my comment, Owen. I sincerely wish you better health.

~Michael~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:10 AM

Sick bag? What's the matter M? Are you suffering from morning sickness? For the past several years I have had to put up with chronic cattarh, which the doctors can't find an explanation for, and which has me vomitting up huge gobs of phlegm every morning for about twenty minutes.

Sick bags? Don't talk to me about sick bags?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:46 AM

I am always amused and nauseated in about equal measure by the way that doctrinaire egalitarians like OW simultaneously hold the masses in contempt. "Royal = newspaper sales", quite simply, because millions of perfectly respectable citizens, who have just as much right to have their legal and legitimate tastes met as has the great OW, wish to read about them ~~ a taste which brings on their innocent heads the contempt and scorn of such as the we-are-all-equal-but-I-am-oh-so-superior OW.

The contempt of the leftie for those he purports to represent is invariably infinite.

Pass the sick-bag, please.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 08:38 AM

"Which is more important to you?
A planet which is dying due to Human Greed and Insanity
Or, a sick, pregnant young woman who is being hounded by journalists who have *chosen* to be Complicit in this farce?"

Hear, bloody hear. The only reason we're being subjected to this crap is because royal = newspaper sales.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Concerned of Whitby
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 07:03 AM

Lizzie I think after reading your rants I want to go out and shoot a Panda just for spite!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 05:35 AM

The face you will see staring back at you is the one who, apparently, seems to have a problem with a woman having strong opinions...

It won't be my face looking back at you, for I'm standing to the side, ranting and raging about the state of the planet and that most journalists are happy to abide by The Rulings Of Their Corporate Bastard Owners and keep The Truth truly hidden from the now Dumbed-Down-Masses.

Which is more important to you?
A planet which is dying due to Human Greed and Insanity
Or, a sick, pregnant young woman who is being hounded by journalists who have *chosen* to be Complicit in this farce?

Give me The Journalist who puts Polly Higgins in their main story!
Give me The Journalist who galvanizes the entire population into getting behind Polly and her Team to make The Law of Ecocide a REALITY, for THEN we will legally be able to crush The Corporate Bastards as never before, although WHY we have to wait until it's all legal I've no idea, because with what they are doing at present, we should ALL be out there on the streets, globally, taking Mother Earth back into OUR hands and decimating the Insane Bastards who are tearing apart our planet....and taking away our Children's Futures and those of ALL generations who may, or now, who may not, come after them!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 05:08 AM

Can't quite see, though Lizzie, how looking in the mirror should help to unpiss me off.

Perhaps you would care too elucidate.

On 2nd thoughts, perhaps you wouldn't!!!!

☺〠☺~M~☺〠☺

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 04:33 AM

Yes, Lizzie, you are most definitely morally and spiritually superior to the rest of us poor excuses for human beings!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 03:33 AM

>>>"Lizzie ~~ Does it ever occur to you that what is, or is not, OK with Your Lizzieness might just not be the absolute sole and unique universal criterion of acceptability?"<<<

Ain't no Stepford Wife, Michael....I'm a woman with strong opinions..if that pisses you off, look in the mirror, don't bring it to me...

Thank you
:0)

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 02:55 AM

Well hell..100!

GfS

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 01:38 AM

Those fuckers!!

GfS

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 01:12 AM

Lizzie ~~ Does it ever occur to you that what is, or is not, OK with Your Lizzieness might just not be the absolute sole and unique universal criterion of acceptability?

Just asking.

Luvya-justa-same

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 08:07 PM

In the immortal words of someone whose wisdom I cherish: You people "could F**k up a wet dream."

The birth of a child is an event to celebrate. May this baby be healthy, happy and long lived. May he or she understand the potential life has given him/her for achieving great things and respect it.
Be happy, little one. Little else matters.

Auntie SINS

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:40 PM

Michael, the crops have failed due to the floods. They will be bringing vegetables in from abroad this winter as we don't have any here in the UK.

In the USA the crops have failed due to droughts..We'll feel the full brunt of what this actually means next year...

Meanwhile, out in the Arctic....
Meanwhile, out in the Rainforest....

And all the fecking press can do is report on a young woman who is sick and pregnant, whilst continuing to harrass her, or they are discussing....wait for it...the new Girl Guide's oath???????

No, that's not OK with me, not OK in any way at all.

Chief Raoni, now in his 80s, is in France at present, trying to stop the Belo Monte Dam, yet again, and save more and more of the Rainforest...The French have many companies employed in building Belo Monte...yet not a single British Newspaper is covering his visit...

They SHOULD have Chief Raoni's photo and story all over their front pages, for he is fighting for us ALL and has been doing so for over 30 years now, but hey, he's not cool enough in the eyes of The Journalists!

Yeesh!!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:30 PM

"England has been England since 1066" Well if you are referring to the 'Kingdom of England' then it existed prior to 1066 and ceased to exist as a seperate kingdom over 300 years ago. All by the by. I still don't understand your point. You don't need to be a monarchist to be English!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: gnu
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:06 PM

The point is, England has been England since 1066... take on all comers and took that all over the world. The "English" have been top dog since 1066. And they still are. If you disagree, read a newspaper.

Is what they did "right"? That don't matter. Not to the top dog. Thus, my point. Don't bark at the big dog. It will chew your ass. Seems simple to me.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:42 PM

There isn't much point to this thread now.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:31 PM

Don't really follow the last post. What relevance is 1066? Surely that was fought over who should win the English crown rather than the crown against anyone else? What is the point being made?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: gnu
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:23 PM

Ya know, these shit on Her Royal Majesty threads have been done to death. I do not feel the slightest urge to explain yet again why Betty owns yer ass and why yer lucky she does. Read some history. Watch a parade. Watch a Royal wedding or a Jubilee fer goodness sakes! Ya know when all those planes flying over and those boats sailing down the river? Who do you think OWNS them planes and boats and guns and nuclear weapons?

Kinda like a drunk telling the bouncer he is gonna stay at the pub after he's been asked to leave politely. Give yer heads a shake and see if they rattle. Or defy the bouncer and get yer heads rattled. 1066... 1066... read some history and tell me wins for and losses against the Crown. Go ahead and tell the bouncer yer gonna have another ale. See what happens.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 05:41 PM

They have tests you know. If Chuck ain't complaining, it's not our business.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 05:35 PM

So, Mendelian genetics being what it is, and if the explanation of Harry's resemblance to Hewitt is another branch of the Spencer family then if this child is another ginger clone of Hewitt, the probabiiity of Harry being a bastard reduces...

Do try to keep up, I know it's hard at your age. You wish.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 01:21 PM

Oh ~~ duck the question.

Sorry, Steve. I'm slow tonight. Put it down to old age!

LoL belatedly but sincerely!

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 01:17 PM

For Christ's sake, Michael. Canard-duck. Never mind, The moment has passed.

And good ol' sycophant-in-chief Nicholas Witchell. He's loving every minute. Ah, where would we all be without Nick and his seriarse royal reporter's mush at a time like this!!

Anyway, I hope that the good duchess is being treated better in her hospital than Ann Clwyd's poor husband was in his.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20597738

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:51 PM

At last! Something Liz and I can agree on - The press cause lots of damage. Now, if only we could agree that the internet, being unregulated and much more open to abuse, does lots more damage that the press ever have! If that happens then maybe, just maybe, we will see a drop in the number of cut and pastes from crap internet articles?

Back to the post. I am not a royalist but I would wish them no harm. Good luck to them and their offspring and I hope all turns out OK. Maybe when he gets to the throne he will apologise to the Native Americans for invading them?

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:38 PM

I'm not, Steve: I am answering the question, pointing out that it is misplaced since it refers to another prince than the one who is the topic of this thread. Richard has got his princes mixed.

If that isn't an answer to his question, what is? You are as confused as he is. Pretty pair of gibberers you make.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:34 PM

Even if there were any truth in that canard, which is highly questionable

Stop trying to duck the question.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:33 PM

It's quite amusing, also, to listen to the super-saturation of the news with angst-ridden stuff like can it be queen if it's a girlie and she has brothers and can it marry a Catholic and what would that mean cos the queer old dean is after all head of the proddydogs' brigade. Oh yes, there will have to be laws all right! Thank God we haven't got any wars or global financial meltdowns anywhere to worry about.