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BS: Obama Hate Thread...

Greg F. 13 May 13 - 06:52 PM
Bobert 13 May 13 - 06:44 PM
Don Firth 13 May 13 - 04:18 PM
Bobert 13 May 13 - 03:37 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 13 May 13 - 02:49 PM
Don Firth 13 May 13 - 02:13 PM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 13 May 13 - 01:49 PM
Bobert 13 May 13 - 12:57 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 13 May 13 - 11:14 AM
Greg F. 13 May 13 - 08:46 AM
Bobert 13 May 13 - 08:32 AM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 13 May 13 - 05:43 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 13 May 13 - 03:58 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 13 May 13 - 12:36 AM
Bobert 12 May 13 - 08:08 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 12 May 13 - 11:46 AM
Greg F. 12 May 13 - 10:05 AM
pdq 12 May 13 - 09:24 AM
Bobert 12 May 13 - 09:13 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 12 May 13 - 01:05 AM
Bobert 11 May 13 - 08:17 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 11 May 13 - 07:19 PM
Bobert 11 May 13 - 01:21 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 11 May 13 - 11:35 AM
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Songwronger 05 May 13 - 11:01 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 May 13 - 06:52 PM

I don't much give a rat's ass why people are ignorant...

Well, there's the massive cuts to Federal and State aid to education over the past several decades, and the war being waged against teachers & teachers unions by the residual BuShites & the TeaPublicans, Bobert- ya think that's got anythiing to do with it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 13 May 13 - 06:44 PM

Yup, garbage in, garbage out... #Explains a lot, Don...

Actually, when it boils down it's called "ignorance"... I don't much give a rat's ass why people are ignorant 'cause if they are it is because they only read s6tuff they agree with...

I read everything...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 May 13 - 04:18 PM

As a well-educated person and a former news man, I know enough about media news, and current events in general, to know whether someone is giving me the straight story or trying to hand me a load of crap.

Whether they're in the media or posting here on Mudcat--Goofy!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 13 May 13 - 03:37 PM

C-Span???

Uh huh...

Explains a lot... They are like FOX-Lite... This si starting to make more and more sense...

BTW, I'd give MSNBC the highest grades for factual reporting of any news outlet...

Yeah, some of their commentators get a little carried away, Chris Mathews being the worst, but at least he is a former Congressional aide so he does understand facts from rhetoric... He's just a very rude person who in spite of knowing a lot of stuff needs a good ass whuppin' and told to not interrupt people... It's rude...

But as for facts, MSNBC seems to be the only news source where you actually get facts that hold up to scrutiny... None of the others do... Okay, some get the facts correct most of the time but refuse to ever have a liberal on their shows... ABC, NBC, CBS, C-Span??? When was the last time that Bernie Sanders appeared on any of those stations??? Like, other than the talking filibuster he did a couple years ago where these so-called liberal news outlets reported that he had done this, never... Kucinich??? Never Sherrod Brown??? Never... Never and more never...

Face it, other that MSNBC, liberals are blackballed from BIG MEDIA...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 May 13 - 02:49 PM

You want specifics???....get off of MSNBC and NBC....everyone else is carrying it!...But like i said before, MSNBC and NBC are not news sources, they are a public relations firm for the White House.
Try C-Span.
But then You, as a 'former news reader' should know that!....but then you never check the news to see if it is accurate, anyway!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 May 13 - 02:13 PM

Broad assertions, but no specifics.

Denies any fact he doesn't like, and insults the person who posted it

Goofy is a waste of band-width.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 13 May 13 - 01:49 PM

Obama has sold the Obamaphiles out.
And they are in complete denial.

Some kind of dissociative disorder.
Like a crime victim pretending it didn't really happen.

Wake up and smell the coffee folks.

It has happened.
You HAVE BEEN FOOLED AGAIN!


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 13 May 13 - 12:57 PM

It doesn't do any good to ppint out where you are wrong, GfinS... You completely ignore those posts and just grind out more of the same old stuff that we've heard a million times... But worse than that, rather than provide actual facts, you rely on proclamations... Proclaiming something to be true or false and providing a factual narrative are two different stories...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 May 13 - 11:14 AM

Is it possible that any one of you three can point out just what in my post was incorrect?...because you've all said absolutely NOTHING!
Just more 'so-called liberal' blathering, with NO thought...other than, 'GfS hurt my widdle ego!'
If you got something to SAY, say it....the rest is just whining!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 May 13 - 08:46 AM

Gone fom Sanity has given up! His "They're all the same, so there's nothing to be done about it"

Just like Little Hawk - maybe the two of them should get together.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 13 May 13 - 08:32 AM

Yer right, Don...

I don't take any of GfinS's ramblings seriously... They are not all that much different than those of Lydon LaRouche...

But there have been times when GfinS was close to reality... From '88 until 2006, yeah, both parties were pretty much the same... That's why I worked for Nader but in the words of Jethro Tull...

..."It was a new day yesterday, it's an old day now..."

I think there are a lot of folks out there who missed working for Nader and now want to relive that part of their life...

Ya' can't go back...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 13 May 13 - 05:43 AM

Truth prevails.
And time will tell the truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 13 May 13 - 03:58 AM

Stop wasting your breath Bobert.

Gone fom Sanity has given up! His "They're all the same, so there's nothing to be done about it" attitude is the mantra of the defeated and couldn't care less.

He's part of the problem, with delusions of importance, and will happily emulate Nero and fiddle while America crumbles in an avalanche of suicidal Republican obstructionism.

But Hey! What matter, as long as he's a legend in his own imagination.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 May 13 - 12:36 AM

Like what???...This is not strictly a Republican or Democrat issue...and frankly, the PEOPLE, left alone, are the ones keeping the whole thing afloat. It's the cancer in the body politic that has burdened the people down....When the Republicans push that, take out 'PEOPLE' and insert mogul CORPORATE PEOPLE. When I say it, I mean the everyday citizen....so IF it sounds like I'm talkin' UP the Republicans, I'm not. Without any Republican talking point misinterpretation, I may say the 'same type' thing, but I'm talking about all those people, workin' everyday, regardless of party affiliation, who make the whole thing work.
Let me give you a simple example VERY overlooked by the partisan bickering....something that just 'slipped by'...and not addressed....
Remember the housing bubble that was fraudulently inflated, so the banksters would make a quick buck, with the phony ponzi scheme they used, to do the leveraging they did?....the flip side, and 'payoff' to the politicians, (Read: special interests), was that property taxes were all assessed at the leveraged up, at the inflated values!!!...making even more difficult for your average workin' guy...it was ALL bullshit...but the workin' guy still went to work, busted his/(her), ass off trying to keep what was his, while the two predatory, corrupt assholes, worked hand in hand together, to fleece the shit out of him(us, the workin' guy)....then the government has to raise other taxes...just to payoff the bankster/corporations in the form of a 'bailout'....WHAT????!!!..BULLSHIT!!!..........but the workin' guy, watching prices inflate(the oil conglomerates had to get in on the action, with their bogus price fixing, which inflates everything transported), barely having enough money to make ends meet, just keeps pluggin' away...being beaten to exhaustion, and death by the marriage of government and the bankster/corporations, and the corruption they wallow in, to accomplish their power greedy agendas!
The political parties, and their 'differences', is their whip!!!
They are BOTH doing it, and at the top of the 'food chain', the top fat cats, are as identical as twins!...matter of fact, even co-operate with each other, to keep us feeding their avarice. They have NO intent on representing us, and haven't in a long time. They even TELL us what to think about the TWO choices they give us....without a second thought about a THIRD choice, which would be of course, beneficial to the people...instead of them!!

So, if you are thinking that I left out the Republicans, in all that.....I didn't...BTW, don't leave out the Democrats......and when you play music...play with a vengeance!!!!!!!
They can only have, what the human spirit will surrender!!!!
....and musicians have the unique position of re-enforcing the human spirit!!

Regards To Ya'...You mixed up wonderful musician!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 12 May 13 - 08:08 PM

So, seems there is no evidence that you, GfinS, have done the righteous indignation thing regarding Repubs other than your proclamations...

Normal...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 May 13 - 11:46 AM

pdq: "I'll see your Hippocrates and raise you a Plato."

Hmmm..that would be quite an Odyssey.

Bobert: "What you and your Republican buddies are doing here is ...."

First off, I don't separate, or choose my 'buddies' according to their political bents....in fact, people who overly identify themselves as one party or another, are the ones who limit themselves, as to how much they can be anybody's 'buddy'.....remember, (as I've said before), 'I'm not with the party, I'm with the band!'

As to your examples, Beirut, 911, Iraq War, and oh yes, Iran/Contra, (especially), I've brought that up NUMEROUS times on here as to the hypocrisy and corruption in our government..BTW, you forgot the Vietnam war, which was fraudulently foisted onto use, (Gulf of Tonkin folly), by the wondrous LBJ, and prolonged by both LBJ and Nixon, for the sake of the drug trade in the Golden triangle, and for the sale of embezzled arms, to the Shaw of Iran.....Yes, Bobert, dear Bobert, it has been Both parties, masquerading as caring patriotic 'leaders', while as crooked as a coon's dick. (that's raccoon, BTW)....and ALL those issues were politicized by one party or the other...anything from, 'Oh look what the 'other' party is doing' to 'Rah Rah..it's for 'national security', and 'protecting our interests'!......and of course, the SANE ones know that it's all been a big pile of crap!...and Bobert, dear Bobert, (with all due respects of being a musician and good guy)..it has been BOTH parties!....and the corrupt elements, both fueling the 'divisions', and profiteering from EVERY fucking concocted crisis.....and if they don't have an on-going crisis, they'll make one up. When there is a REAL one, they'll cover it up.....oh, and by the way...in your list of crisis that the Democrats 'didn't' politicize, you left out Watergate. Gosh, how you let that one slip through, must have been nothing short of an 'accident'(?).
When I think about it, off the top of my head, the last REAL crisis, that was handled as a real crisis, just might have been the Cuban missile crisis...most of all the rest of them have been a series of assholes jostling for position, to position themselves to get away with more crooked shit..while keeping the public dazed and confused with political partisan street theater!
...and yes, Obama the O-Blabbo is just another one of them....and it is so blatantly obvious, and always has been...from his first campaign to be elected, the first time......it's just been that, underneath, we ALL knew we wanted 'Hope and Change'...but this cat wasn't bringing it......
.....so I took matters into my own hands....I bought a three dollar lottery ticket with a five dollar bill, and got my hope and change, too.....but that didn't pan out either.
Oh well, back to the studio.......

Regards Bobert,

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Greg F.
Date: 12 May 13 - 10:05 AM

Ya mean Play-Doh, dontcha, PeeDee? Ages 6-10?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: pdq
Date: 12 May 13 - 09:24 AM

I'll see your Hippocrates and raise you a Plato.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 12 May 13 - 09:13 AM

Yes, GfinS, they do and guess what??? Lot's of stuff that happens doesn't get sorted out for weeks or even months... And some of the stuff is outright wrong... And some conjecture by an annalist... Benghazi is a prime example...

What you and your Republican buddies are doing here is playing "Monday morning quarterback"... I mean, everyone has 20/20 hindsight...

"Man, that quarterback shouldn't have thrown that interception..."

Duhhhhh???

Let's get real here...

Take the Beirut bombing under Reagan... Where was all this righteous indignation after it???

Iran/Contra??? Same...

Even 9 fucking 11... You didn't see all this pure politicization of tragedy by the Dems in either of those cases...

The Iraq War???

I mean, let's keep this in some perspective least you and your Republican buddies look like the whiner/washrag.crybabies that ya'll very much look and sound like...

Hippocrates, all of you


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 May 13 - 01:05 AM

Bobert, in case you didn't know, and you can check this out, the CIA & State Department brief the President every morning...the CIA, EVERY morning.
This one will only go as far as the 'news' media will push to expose it. Some media outlets more...some less...it just depends on which one has been getting the 'grease jobs'.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 11 May 13 - 08:17 PM

Actually, GfinS, if you spent a week as president you'd have some understanding of just how far out of touch any president is from the inner workings of the US government...

You seem to think that Obama has this crystal ball that tells him what the heck is really happening... That is delusional...

There are millions of folks working for the federal government or government contractors... You seem to expect Obama to know what each and every one of them is doing???

LIke I said, that is delusional...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 11 May 13 - 07:19 PM

Bobert: "Again, this ain't on Obama... This is on a 3 decade long assault by Boss Hog on the working class..."

BTW, Bobert, HELLO!!..long time no see!


Now to the 'other part...

Benghazi???? was a 3 decade long assault by Boss Hog on the working class..."

Bobert: "Again, this ain't on Obama..."

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 11 May 13 - 01:21 PM

Nice post in general, Wrongman...

Not sure how much more that Obama can do toward leveling the playing field between Wall Street and Main Street... The bankers have already figured how to defeat Dodd-Frank...

Income inequality in America is disgraceful... And what makes it even worse is that the stenking Republicans don't even believe it exists... When you bring it up they call you a socialist???

Huh???

Here in North Carolina, as in every state with a Republican governor and majority in the statehouse we are seeing the same cookie-cutter ALEC right wing tax proposals: Decrease income tax rates and make it up with even more regressive taxes on the people who are right at the breaking point now???

Again, this ain't on Obama... This is on a 3 decade long assault by Boss Hog on the working class... Obam can't change that... The only thing that can change that is for all of a sudden a lot of right wing power people suffer what we on the left suffered in the 60s... That will get them to know that there are consequences...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 11 May 13 - 11:35 AM

BENGHAZI!!....How can you 'hate' Obama??...We LOVE to be lied to...We LOVE it when our foreign diplomats call for help, and are ignored...and die at the hands of our enemies...then the Administrations minions lie to us, and the world at the U.N....it makes us feel good, and proud, and strong.....MSNBC won't even carry the story...because in reality, they are NOT a news source...but rather a public relations firm, for this Administration.
No wonder the left has been so ill-informed.
ABC, finally is covering it, and uncovered the edited 'talking points' memos. Next, SHOULD be the e-mails.
The 'so-called' liberals, will say that this is an attempt to smear the Bush's hack, and corrupt bankster darling, Hilary Clinton....it is ALL smoke in mirrors.
....and the guy who made the 'video that started it' (according to the lies), is still in jail....for, of all things, bank fraud!...ain't that a slick twist!!...while the banking moguls who have defrauded the nation are running free, and telling the Administration what they will allow them to do...to bring about a corporate/bankster/government tyranny.
Way to go!
Don't you just LOVE these guys???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Obama Recovery Begins
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 06 May 13 - 05:44 AM

It's about time Congress voted themselves a pay raise, don't you think?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Obama Recovery Begins
From: Songwronger
Date: 05 May 13 - 11:01 PM

The social crisis in America

4 May 2013

US stock markets surged Friday to new record highs as Wall Street traders seized on a tepid jobs report to engage in a fresh orgy of speculation.

The official line promoted by the Obama administration is that the United States is in the midst of an accelerating economic recovery...........

For millions of older workers, the prospect of economic security and a decent retirement is growing ever more distant as the elderly are forced to dip into their savings and take on ever greater debt just to survive. The debt of Americans aged 65 to 74 is rising faster than that of any other age group, according to Federal Reserve figures. For a typical household led by someone 65 or older, household debt grew by more than 50 percent between 2000 and 2011.

The already insufficient benefits provided by Social Security and Medicare, the federal retirement and health care programs, are being scaled back. Fewer and fewer retirees have a guaranteed pension. Among those that do, many have resorted to borrowing against their pensions and paying usurious interest rates to unscrupulous lenders.

Last week, the New York Times reported that companies that offer pension advances often charge interest rates, after factoring in fees, of between 27 and 106 percent. Older households spent 7.1 percent of their incomes to pay off debt in 2010, up from 4.5 percent three years earlier, according to figures from the Employee Benefit Research Institute.

Earlier this month, Wells Fargo reported that the number of older workers borrowing from their 401(k) retirement accounts—and paying penalties to do so—surged 28 percent at the end of 2012 compared to the same period in 2011.

Conditions are no better at the other end of the age spectrum. Almost 16 million children in the US, or 22 percent, live in families whose income is below the federal poverty line, according to the National Center for Children in Poverty. Last month, the United Nation's Children's Fund released a report showing that, among developed countries, the United States ranks 26 out of 29, behind Greece and just above Lithuania, Latvia and Romania, in terms of the percentage of children living in poverty............

Nor is poverty confined to the unemployed. According to a report issued last month by the US Census Bureau, the percentage of the population who are "working poor" rose dramatically, from 5.1 percent in 2006 to 7 percent in 2011. One quarter all those in poverty—about 10.4 million people—are working.

The bulk of new jobs are in low-paid service industries, and even manufacturing workers increasingly make as little as $10 an hour—a poverty wage for a family of four.

The effects of poverty are myriad. According to one recent study, 80 million adults in the US, about 43 percent of the total population, did not get medical care sometime in 2012 because they could not afford it. This is up a shocking 17 million since 2003.

Growing poverty and social distress are treated essentially as non-issues by the mass media. According to a recent study by the Pew Research center, the US media focused just one fifth of one percent of its news coverage on the topic of poverty. "In no year did poverty coverage even come close to accounting for as little as one percent of the news hole," Mark Jurkowitz, the project's associate director, told Harvard's Nieman Foundation.

In an earlier period, such indices of social distress would have been treated as a national disgrace. Today, far from proposing any measures to address the social crisis, the Republicans and Democrats, with the Obama administration in the lead, vie with each other over how best to slash Social Security, Medicare and other vital social programs.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/05/04/pers-m04.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Operation Fast and Furious
From: Songwronger
Date: 05 May 13 - 09:06 PM

Obama Blames U.S. For Gun Violence In Mexico

"Most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States," President Obama said during a speech at Mexico's Anthropology Museum. "I think many of you know that in America, our Constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms. And as president, I swore an oath to uphold that right, and I always will."

"But at the same time, as I've said in the United States, I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common-sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerous people. That can save lives here in Mexico and back home in the United States. It's the right thing to do," Obama added.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/03/obama_blames_us_for_gun_violence_in_mexico_pushes_for_gun_control.html

Obama runs guns into Mexico and then behaves like this. He has absolutely no dignity, and probably no conscience.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: bobad
Date: 30 Apr 13 - 06:54 AM

Yep, our daily bowel movement.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 13 - 01:49 AM

Talk about predictability...


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Apr 13 - 12:07 AM

Well, Songwronger, it is being said of you that you are 'predictable'...I would ALMOST wonder, 'Why?'...it must be because you are historically accurate, and your post:From: Songwronger
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:10 PM...
is dead fucking on!!!!
You would think that the 'so-called liberals' would applaud you,...after all, the Democrats (as a party) were opposed to the Contras..even Biden wanted credit for the
Boland Amendment...funny how the stripes change color, when your 'party' is running low on integrity.....but really, who cares?

GfS


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Subject: BS: Obama Steals Charlotte Mayor
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Apr 13 - 11:01 PM

Its part of a plot to deprive North Carolina of decent municipal governance!


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Subject: BS: Pres Obama admits causing harsh winter
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 06:34 AM

The President said. "Uhhhh What can I say? I went out in the rose garden on February second and I saw my shadow. Sorry about the floods midwest."

Sean Hannity who broke this news on his program Wednesday night said "I always knew he was a neo-colonial, Kenyan born, socio-fascist, corporatist/progressive, Big Government entitlement shrinking ground hog."


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Subject: RE: BS: Bomber CONVICTED -Time for Running Man 2
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 05:56 AM

Shouldn't this thread be combined with the last one?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bomber CONVICTED -Time for Running Man 2
From: gnu
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 04:42 AM

I only opened the thread to read responses to the OP that I didn't read.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bomber CONVICTED -Time for Running Man 2
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 12:54 AM

Songwonger, you have become entirely too predictable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bomber CONVICTED -Time for Running Man 2
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 12:45 AM

There he goes again, folks.

Don Firth


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Subject: BS: Bomber CONVICTED -Time for Running Man 2
From: Songwronger
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 12:25 AM

President Barack Obama posed several questions Friday night in addressing the nation after the bombing suspect was captured: "Why did young men who grew up and studied here as part of our communities and our country resort to such violence? How did they plan and carry out these attacks? And did they receive help?"

http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-boston-marathon-main-0421-20130421,0,7262921.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_m

Well, he was convicted by Obama. And he had his throat ripped out, so he can't say "patsy." Case closed. Or is it? Obama asked if they received help.

And then there's this:

The FBI was last night hunting a 12-strong terrorist "sleeper cell" linked to the Boston marathon bomb brothers.

Police believe Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were specially trained to carry out the devastating attack.

More than 1,000 FBI agents were last night working to track down the cell and arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar's dramatic capture after a bloody shootout on Friday.

A source close to the investigation said: "We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.

"They were too advanced. Someone gave the brothers the skills and it is now our job to find out just who they were. Agents think the sleeper cell has up to a dozen members and has been waiting several years for their day to come."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844

A dozen terrorists waiting years to blow up a couple of pressure cooker bombs at a marathon? Yeah, that's believable. About as believable as this. I guess we'll now see the the dozen other terrorists hunted down in the sequel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: kendall
Date: 24 Apr 13 - 07:47 AM

Anyone who thinks that the rich need tax breaks to create jobs should look at the record. In the 8 years of the village idiot's rein, few or no jobs were created.

Right now, corporate profits are at an all time high while unemployment is way too high.Banks are sitting on billions hoping the economy gets worse for the mid term elections so the republicans can regain power.They count on the sad fact that too many Americans have the attention span of a goldfish.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Songwronger
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:10 PM

It's called the Shadow Government. It's our intelligence services. Their budgets are not reviewed by our congress. John F. Kennedy promised to disband the shadow government, but then he was killed. His promise died with him. That was in the 60's. Representative Leo Ryan of California introduced a bill to review the budgets, but then he was killed. His bill died with him. That was in the 70's.

Our shadow government does not receive enough tax money to finance itself, so it resorts to the drug trade, arms trading, and so on. The Iran-Contra scandal was an example of the shadow government dealing drugs and arms.

All the average citizen can do is admit the truth and speak out about it, but unfortunately not many Americans are willing to do that. The lie is more comfortable. Also, many adults behave like children, denying that a problem even exists. The people who run our country try to control us with fear, and they are good at it.

The world admires Iceland, by the way. You people forced your leaders to act responsibly, and now you are benefitting from that. Or I hope you are. May Iceland thrive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: skarpi
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 08:24 PM

Bill Clinton once said , there is a Government inside my Government and I don´t control it ...but it gets a lot of money of the budget ..
about 500 billion dollars .

I wonder why no one don´t do anything about this ..
and also who are in that other Government Bill was talking about ??

I wonder ...

but what a heck I am just a watcher from out side , looking inside

all the best Skarpi


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 07:39 PM

Good gracious. You have a strange definition of fascism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Songwronger
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 07:18 PM

I see that a thread addressing Obama's handling of the TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority) was closed. The TVA is the huge hydroelectric system which provides electricity to the southeastern U.S. It was initiated by Franklin Roosevelt and took years to complete. Now Obama wants to privatize it.

"Reform TVA. Since its creation in the 1930s during the Great Depression, the federally owned and operated Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) has been producing low-cost electricity and managing natural resources for a large portion of the Southeastern United States. TVA's power service territory includes most of Tennessee and parts of Alabama, Georgia, kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, and Virginia, covering 80,000 square miles and serving more than nine million people. TVA is a self-financing Government corporation, funding operations through electricity sales and bond financing. In order to meet its future capacity needs, fulfill its environmental responsibilities, and modernize its aging generation system, TVA's current capital investment plan includes more than $25 billion of expenditures over the next 10 years. However, TVA's anticipated capital needs are likely to quickly exceed the agency's $30 billion statutory cap on indebtedness. Reducing or eliminating the Federal Government's role in programs such as TVA, which have achieved their original objectives and no longer require Federal participation, can help put the Nation on a sustainable fiscal path. Given TVA's debt constraints and the impact to the Federal deficit of its increasing capital expenditures, the Administration intends to undertake a strategic review of options for addressing TVA's financial situation, including the possible divestiture of TVA, in part or as a whole."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2014/assets/budget.pdf

So, Obama wants to privatize the TVA. And note how the TVA is not the only targeted program here. Obama says, "Reducing or eliminating the Federal Government's role in programs such as TVA, which have achieved their original objectives and no longer require Federal participation, can help put the Nation on a sustainable fiscal path."

This opens the door to privatize everything that was built with federal money. Stone cold fascism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 01:15 PM

All he can do is campaign for the 2014 mid terms.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: Q
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 01:14 PM

A president without the votes in Congress is in a hopeless situation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:33 AM

Premature Birthday wishes to Max have no bearing White House assures!



Obama Moves Lacto-Socialist thread
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:04 AM

Jackbooted Kenyan Neo-Colonial thugs have tried to move this important news from the public eye.

Be vigilant! Important news must be spread!



Subject: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:29 AM

In an unprecedented big government plan his plan is to issue breast pumps, to all lactating women collect the milk in predetermined holding facilities then redistribute the natural bounty to any citizen who has an NRA sticker on their car.

"I'm gonna milk those mothers for what they got and give those crybabies what they deserve." He was quoted as saying.


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Subject: BS: Fascio-lacto-socialists bury truth!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:30 AM

Obama Moves Lacto-Socialist thread
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:04 AM

Jackbooted Kenyan Neo-Colonial thugs have tried to move this important news from the public eye.

Be vigilant! Important news must be spread!



Subject: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:29 AM

In an unprecedented big government plan his plan is to issue breast pumps, to all lactating women collect the milk in predetermined holding facilities then redistribute the natural bounty to any citizen who has an NRA sticker on their car.

"I'm gonna milk those mothers for what they got and give those crybabies what they deserve." He was quoted as saying.


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Subject: BS: Obama Moves Lacto-Socialist thread
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:04 AM

Jackbooted Kenyan Neo-Colonial thugs have tried to move this important news from the public eye.

Be vigilant! Important news must be spread!



Subject: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:29 AM

In an unprecedented big government plan his plan is to issue breast pumps, to all lactating women collect the milk in predetermined holding facilities then redistribute the natural bounty to any citizen who has an NRA sticker on their car.

"I'm gonna milk those mothers for what they got and give those crybabies what they deserve." He was quoted as saying.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 06:48 AM

This just in. GOP filibustering Lactation law. Jon Boner, Orange American said, we are OK with the idea in principle, we just want to milk it for some tax breaks for the appropriate industries such as Big Pharma, the medical device industry and the new up and comer, Big Breast.

Already the (AGWB) Associated Guys With Boobs has filed a discrimination lawsuit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 06:28 AM

The cap is an arbitrary one placed by Congress for borrowing by the TVA. They a looking at a way to borrow the money to make the improvements without the orange American Speaker and the two Pauls, Ryan and Rand whining about the national debt.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: gnu
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 06:17 AM

I know what he meant.

Near spit ma tea on the OP. Good one!


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