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BS: Obama Hate Thread...

Jack the Sailor 09 Apr 13 - 08:54 PM
Songwronger 09 Apr 13 - 08:50 PM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 09 Apr 13 - 08:38 PM
Little Hawk 09 Apr 13 - 08:30 PM
Songwronger 09 Apr 13 - 08:27 PM
kendall 09 Apr 13 - 08:20 PM
Bobert 09 Apr 13 - 08:17 PM
Little Hawk 09 Apr 13 - 08:08 PM
Little Hawk 09 Apr 13 - 07:50 PM
Bobert 09 Apr 13 - 07:43 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 09 Apr 13 - 07:18 PM
Amos 09 Apr 13 - 07:07 PM
Songwronger 09 Apr 13 - 07:04 PM
Amos 09 Apr 13 - 06:56 PM
Ebbie 09 Apr 13 - 06:43 PM
Don Firth 09 Apr 13 - 05:55 PM
Don Firth 09 Apr 13 - 05:52 PM
Bobert 09 Apr 13 - 05:16 PM
Don Firth 09 Apr 13 - 04:42 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 09 Apr 13 - 01:23 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 09 Apr 13 - 01:12 PM
Bobert 09 Apr 13 - 12:45 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 09 Apr 13 - 10:43 AM
Bobert 09 Apr 13 - 09:09 AM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 09 Apr 13 - 03:21 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 09 Apr 13 - 03:11 AM
Don Firth 09 Apr 13 - 01:44 AM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 09 Apr 13 - 01:12 AM
Don Firth 09 Apr 13 - 01:08 AM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 09 Apr 13 - 12:11 AM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 09 Apr 13 - 12:06 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 08 Apr 13 - 09:14 PM
Bobert 08 Apr 13 - 05:28 PM
Don Firth 08 Apr 13 - 05:07 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 08 Apr 13 - 02:57 PM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 08 Apr 13 - 02:56 PM
Ebbie 08 Apr 13 - 02:24 PM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 08 Apr 13 - 01:39 PM
Bobert 08 Apr 13 - 12:58 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 08 Apr 13 - 11:46 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 08 Apr 13 - 11:40 AM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 08 Apr 13 - 09:32 AM
Bobert 08 Apr 13 - 08:46 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 08 Apr 13 - 12:27 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 08:54 PM

"But didn't Obama run for president while making promises to strengthen the social safety nets? Surely he ran as a socialist. '

He ran for president promising to protect what was there already.

Bush was the one who added a new "benefit" to Medicare.

Not that facts matter to you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: Songwronger
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 08:50 PM

Oh, I think I get it now. Obama used Obamacare to force Americans to buy private health insurance. That's kind of the OPPOSITE of state ownership of industry. lol. Rush Limbaugh's just joking with us, isn't he? Obama's in favor of private sector growth. Like with those cancer patients his sequester forced off of Medicare. Now they have to find private health insurance resources or die. lol. Obama's a kidder too. I'm glad we have leaders with a sense of humor.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 08:38 PM

Ok boys and girls.
Simple questions.
Do you approve of giving Monsanto immunity?
Do you approve of cutting social spending?
Are you proud of your Boy Wonder's performance as President?
Do you feel betrayed?
Why? Why not?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 08:30 PM

The word he was looking for was "devastated".


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: Songwronger
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 08:27 PM

But didn't Obama run for president while making promises to strengthen the social safety nets? Surely he ran as a socialist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: kendall
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 08:20 PM

Amos, you do have a way with words! LOL.

I wish more people would look up the real meaning of words that they bandy about with no clue of their real meaning.
For example:
A newscaster on TV. "The whole forest was decimated". I've never seen a wind so smart that it could count!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 08:17 PM

Actually, Socialism is exactly what the US needs right now to counter a 30 years assault on the working man...

Too bad we don't have it...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 08:08 PM

Gosh! Do they have cameleopard piss in San Diego, Amos? There sure isn't any available around here. What do you do with it, rub it behind your ears?

The problem with textbook definitions of socialism is that they seem to treat it as an all-or-nothing proposition. In fact, all modern societies naturally contain a certain amount of socialism...usually mixed in with a certain amount of capitalism. It doesn't HAVE to be all one or all the other, and it very seldom is.

Therefore, any president of the USA is in fact governing over a partially socialist and partially capitalist system no matter how you look at it, so does that make him "a socialist"? Or "a capitalist"? Only if you ignore all the stuff that doesn't fit your textbook definition.

We've had numerous discussions here going way back about what socialism is...and it is a number of things besides what the dictionary bothers telling you in its brief definition. Every single thing that is done through government funding (taxation), and by government-employed personnel is socialist in nature. That includes things like public libraries, public parks and recreation facilities, airports, harbours, environmental agencies, water regulation agencies, public health facilities, public schools, fire departments, police, armed forces, courts and legal system and jails, garbage collection, highway maintenance....every frickin' thing imaginable that is there to take care of a general and very obvious public NEED rather than to make a profit for the owners of a privately owned business.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 07:50 PM

No. But it would be nice if he was. You might get a real single payer health coverage plan like they have in most of the rest of the developed world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 07:43 PM

I'm sure that Amos meant "Listen" rather than "Kisten" 'cause I don't want none of the ObamaHateBrigade "kisten" on me or anyone I know... Maybe they could get together and kisten on one another???

But, yeah... Simply put... The Krinkx is a redneck and GfinS insane and LH is what ever he wants to be that day... Some days he's a monkey and other days a drunk in the trailer??? And then there's the wrongman... No comment as the English language hasn't come up with the correct words yet...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 07:18 PM

AMEN TO THAT AMOS!

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: Amos
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 07:07 PM

Because he is, in fact, neither a socialist nor a fascist. These labels are among the many that are inaccurately gathered up by fucktards like so many horse apples in order to be flung about indiscriminately by arm-waving nutjobs who don't knopw the difference between a rational proposition and a bucket of cameleopard piss.


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Subject: BS: Is Obama a Socialist?
From: Songwronger
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 07:04 PM

I recently upset some people here by saying Obama is a fascist, so maybe I was wrong. Rush Limbaugh calls him a socialist. But what is a socialist?

Socialism, n.: 1. A political theory advocating state ownership of industry. 2. An economic system based on state ownership of capital.

I'm not sure if Obama is a socialist. Let's see what the World Socialist Website has to say about Obama today.


OBAMA DEFENDS PLAN TO CUT MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY

White House officials indicated in a press conference last week that the (Obama's) budget proposal will include $1.2 trillion in spending cuts over ten years, including $400 billion in cuts to Medicare and other health care programs and $130 billion from reducing inflation calculations linked to Social Security payments.


COMMUNITIES ACROSS U.S. FEEL IMPACT OF SEQUESTRATION CUTS

Over one million federal workers are set to begin unpaid furloughs this month, amounting to pay cuts of anywhere from 20 to 30 percent. Sequestration has also prompted the extension of a pay freeze already in force for federal workers. The cuts will result in the equivalent of 750,000 full-time job losses throughout the economy, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Other projections place the job losses as high as 2 million with the cuts reducing the gross domestic product by 0.6 percent this year.


THOUSANDS OF SCIENTISTS PROTEST U.S. CUTS TO MEDICAL RESEARCH

Thousands of scientists and researchers marched in Washington, DC Monday as the US government was set to cut seven percent of its $140 billion annual budget for scientific research due to the federal sequester. Up to 15,000 scientists from around the country attended the rally, which was called by the American Association for Cancer Research.


It doesn't look like the World Socialist Website considers Obama a socialist. Why is that? Anyone?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Amos
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 06:56 PM

I invite you to unfold the particulars of your wild-eyed accusations and over-inflated assertions, gentlemen, and boil them down to specific statements and actions, with a context of who was making what efforts and who was countering them in what way. I think you will find that the President is wrestling a tankful of alligators, while you are leaping about on the margins jeering because his pants are muddy, doing nothing to suggest improvements, not to correct the dire conditions he is trying to put right, nor anything to unburden him in the struggle against autocratic, ideology-driven short-sighted and mindless fixed ideas from the right AND from the far left. You guys should count yourself lucky a man of reason is even near the White House given the degree of psychosis rampant in the arena in these bizarre times. Kisten to Bobert and do your fucking homework, or gibber on as the overheated fucktards you seem to be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 06:43 PM

"Pay attention to all the Mudcatters who have basically agreed with GfS, myself and Songwronger, "

That should be an easy assignment. Frankly, except for Henry, GfS and sometimes SongWrong (you're not radical enough but too incoherent for him) I have not noticed anyone who agrees with you. I don't count Little Hawk- he is a flitter with his own agenda.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 05:55 PM

Sorry. I was just reading what Bobert posted (right on!) and my computer got the hiccups.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 05:52 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 05:16 PM

Yup, Don... You have hit the nail on the head...

Whomever these people are they have serious communication problems...
I mean, just getting them to ask a simple question or make a simple statement is like going on a Helter Kelter Scavenger Hunt...

Now if either of these people want to ask a question that isn't a loaded "are you still beating your wife" question then here's how it is done... Just ask the question, sans the insanity and verbiage... Here's an idea... Ask the question direct in 20 words or less without the scavenger hunt BS... No, I'm not going to go back and reread thru reems and reams and reams of free association meanderings...

Just ask the fucking question...

Is that too much to ask??? (6 words... See how easy it is???)

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 04:42 PM

I think they have it, Bobert, and I will leave them to it.

It seems that whenever—IF ever!—the Niggardly Goofballupagus Bastard asks any kind of question of us and loudly demands a response, they (it) have it buried in such a pile of base insults and wild-eyed rants that it's next to impossible to detect it as a question.

I know that my knowledge of political science is well-founded and I'm well up on current events and I know who's trying to do what and why they are trying to do it.

Whenever it's possible do actually decipher Niggardly Goofballupagus Bastard's spittle-spraying ranting and raving (which is rare), the question that emerges is loaded and dumb, like "do you still beat your wife?"

I'm not going to play their stupid game. They're here merely to inflate their own egos anyway.

Now, watch it say, "So you can't answer my question and you're taking the coward's way out!!! I BEAT you, I BEAT you, I BEAT you!!!"

No. I'm not going to waste my time with someone whose mind is close, locked, and incapable of understanding or participating in a rational discussion and prefers to indulge in personal insults instead.

Besides, Niggardly Goofballupagus Bastard BORES me!

Don Firth

P. S. Reminds me of my loony neighbor down the street who is convinced that "THEY" have drones hovering outside her window and "THEY" are spying on her. "Who?" you ask. "Obama!" she whispers, so she can't be overheard by the hidden microphones the FBI has hidden in her apartment.

Why the hell would Obama or the FBI want to spy on her?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 01:23 PM

Two typos..Correction"

1st Paragraph after the list of posts should read: "Sometimes you guys remind me OF the Nixon devotees who blamed everyone but Nixon.."
Last paragraph should read:"..and WHILE you're at it, ...."

That's just in case you don't read typonese.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 01:12 PM

What is this??..a combination of ADD and deja vu???

From my earlier post:
"Just scroll back and read the posts....you guys do this over and over again, and then when the person whom you FALSELY accuse, by 'name calling', object, and fire back, you try to paint them as a nasty, mean person...and claim something stupid like 'You didn't understand it' or '..it wasn't said clearly enough'(LIKE NOW)...or, you just go on, as if nobody asked you a question about something you posted about your positions!"

...but here, Ill accommodate you ONCE AGAIN!:

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 03:11 AM

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 09:14 PM

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:40 AM

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Apr 13 - 02:17 PM

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Apr 13 - 03:23 PM

Take your pick...and while you're at it, BEFORE you post again, saying you don't understand it, how come you understand it enough to piss you off, but not enough to have an intelligent exchange over it????.....or is it you have to run it by Don, so he can instruct you how to say nothing???...or change the subject??...or call people meaningless names???

Sometimes you guys remind me off the Nixon devotees who blamed everyone but Nixon...even up to the time he resigned....and they STILL didn't see why!....(but then, this country probably couldn't handle the real reason why, and what else he was protecting...but that's another story) Let's not drift anymore.
You created this post because you say people hate Obama....people have pointed out why they question him, and his 'loyalties' vs. his actions vs. his words. It have nothing to do with 'hating' him, because he SAYS he represents an ideology, or because he's black, and everyone, except for you, is a 'racist' or 'bigot'..THAT DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE!!...in case you haven't noticed!
..and whole you're at it, can you justify the Monsanto Immunity rider being attached into the Democratic budget proposal??...now that certain 'key Republicans' are starting to 'like' the budget. Ya' think that control over the food supply just 'might' have something to do with it?
Jeez, if you don't answer SOMETHING, the list is just going to keep getting longer, and your 'zeal' for Obama will just be a free ride on the conveyor belt to loonie-dom!
Either of you...or anyone??

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 12:45 PM

What issue now, GfinS???

Be concise, por favor... Your winding manifestos are all but impossible to read, let alone decipher...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 10:43 AM

Bobert: "The two are hopelessly stuck playing that 2 year old's game of "Why?" after you answer their childish questions... Plus, thinking of Social Security as "welfare" make them both right winged Ayn Rand worshipers..."

False...and I know the difference between welfare and SS...

Now, would you care to address the issue?...or hide, like that two year old you were talking about?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 09:09 AM

Yup, Don... The two are hopelessly stuck playing that 2 year old's game of "Why?" after you answer their childish questions... Plus, thinking of Social Security as "welfare" make them both right winged Ayn Rand worshipers...

90% of "welfare" now goes to the 1%...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 03:21 AM

Pay attention to all the Mudcatters who have basically agreed with GfS, myself and Songwronger, Mr. Firth.
People I'm sure you like, respect and enjoy the online company of.
Little Hawk
Will Fly
Stringsinger
Just to name a few.
Try to think outside the little box you have created for yourself.
And that goes double for bobette.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 03:11 AM

We're not the same person. BUT, you are evading the subject put forth. No soul searching for you, huh?...but then that ain't the first time!
Try, for once to stick to the topic, without trying to discredit people who disagree with you.
Try this one, can you imagine the upheaval in this country is Obama, after running up the unemployment with his fiscal policies, yanks their unemployment too??? Do you think that the corporations would love to get their hands on slave labor, who would do about anything just to survive??
A thought worth thinking.....being as YOUR checks would stop too!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 01:44 AM

I have confronted the issues many times, but you two Bozos don't like what I've said and keep bitching that I'm NOT confronting the issues.

Convenient way of trying to blow off someone who's opinion you don't like, but it's an all too transparent dodge on the part of you two.

Or is it just one?

Ta ta.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 01:12 AM

Come on Mr. Firth.
You can do better.
Confront the issues.
Your line about me and GfS has begun to sound like a broken record.
You sound like a petulant child.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 01:08 AM

Judging from the nearly identical writing "style" and the subterranean level of "reasoning" of the two, and that the two seem to be butt-pattingly sweet on each other, I'm beginning to think that Niggardly Bastard and Goofballupagus are the same person!

It's called "multiple personality disorder."

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 12:11 AM

Any time now I expect Prez al-Obama to start babbling about Faith Based Initiatives and churches and charities taking over social programs.
You heard it here first.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 12:06 AM

I approve GfS's message.
Grow up and think for yourselves for a change.
Successful people shouldn't get Social Security payments?
Then they should never have to pay into that welfare system.
Social Security is Welfare?
SSI is.
All those people who's unemployment insurance payments ran out are eligible for SSI payments. And Obama wants to cut Unemployment Benefits. Forcing more people onto the welfare rolls.
Which he wants to cut too.
He is so much like Ronald Reagan it scares me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 09:14 PM

Your posts, both of you, are yet another example of what I was just posting about dodging the questions. Are you FINALLY admitting that your bullshit arguments have run out of stink??

My contention is that Obama, by continuing Bush's policies, and NOT undoing some of Bush's executive orders, wars, implementation of NDAA, holding onto the 'Patriot Act' etc etc, is not only a reason NOT to hate Obama, but to recognize that the 'difference' between them, is mostly illusion, and neither represent the people or intentions of the people who support(s/ed) them. You've made excuses for the present President's 'behavior', even when it goes against what he said he stands for, or what you say YOU stand for!..but like controlled creatures of habit, you just keep doing it, instead of taking an honest look at it, and saying to yourselves, "Now hold on, wait a minute...maybe I find myself contradicting what I say I believe in, maybe I'm tired of telling lies, and playing stupid on his behalf, when he is betraying me, and saying one thing but doing another"....The 'Conservatives' started to have that flash about Bush even before his second term. As far as the 'right' being more correct than the 'left' or vice verse, your behavior patterns are identical...and they(your controllers) count on it....an in doing so, NOTHING gets changed!...except the AMOUNT of control you submit yourselves to be under...What the fuck happened to independent thinking??...and as 'artists', THAT should bug the hell out of you!!!
But NO!!...you lower yourselves to a lesser level of intelligence, and try encouraging people to do the same!...What the fuck is wrong with you two???
Now I don't expect either of you guys to answer, but hopefully it's given you some food for reflection and introspection.
One good thing that could come out of it, is it works to break the creative block, and get your minds to work a little higher than wasting its energy thinking up of half witted excuses, that keep running out of steam!!!

Hoping the Best!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 05:28 PM

GfinS has never made it a secret that Ayn Rand is like, ahhhh, a god...

BTW, I am sticking with my position on Social Security and they are completely apolitical... Gazillionaires sucking out money they can't begin to spend is a large part of the problem...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 05:07 PM

"You get rewarded for being a slacker and failure."

Pure Ayn Rand.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:57 PM

Bobert: "The Uni-bomber didn't have anything on you, GfinS, in writing incoherent manifestos... Maybe ya'll related???"

From my last post: "Like right now!..You are dodging..and pretending....so who do you ask??..the other 'Great Pretender'!
(continuing)...."and then they turn around in a glazed eye stupor, try to change the subject,"

Like you are trying to do AGAIN, right now!"

AND>>..............(from what you just read, in my post):....."This is because shallow, 'so-called liberals' don't seem to be able to think for themselves, use name calling, as to TRY to discredit, whomever they are talking to, whenever they are cornered and have to confront the truth. They do this because the 'excuse department' ran out of truth and/or logic...so all you got is some lame-ass accusation tossing, hung over from the '60's.."

Now, being as right now you are being 'stopped in your tracks', and called on it..wouldn't it seem, on your behalf to pause and reflect...just to consider another point of view...that just be more accurate???

Hey, I'm on YOUR side....you just haven't defined it well enough for your own well being!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:56 PM

So the way you see it, if a person pays into the fund all their life they better not be too successful.
Or the government gets to keep it all.
It's like their income tax was doubled for their entire life.
You get rewarded for being a slacker and failure.
Oh, that's what you want.
A reward for not trying very hard.
Good for you.
Bad for the people who strove for success.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:24 PM

Henry, does it enter into your equation that the administration is attempting to find avenues that the GOP will agree to travel? I'm with Bobert: There is no reason on the gods' green earth that people garnering $250,000 and up need a monthly Social Security check that amounts perhaps to $12,000 annually. Chicken feed.

I've had only one really rich friend in my life. One day he was grousing that Social Security is a nuisance that only complicates his taxes.

I said, Why do you accept it?

He: Because it's mine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 01:39 PM

Like I said, bobette.
When your Boy Wonder wants to cut it, it's just the right thing to do.
If say, Sarah Palin wanted to do it, you'd die from apoplexy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:58 PM

The Uni-bomber didn't have anything on you, GfinS, in writing incoherent manifestos... Maybe ya'll related???

As for Social Security, B-man??? I have no problems diddling with not only it but with Medicare... I mean, I see no reason why people who are drowning in cash need it... I also see no reason to not up the cap...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:46 AM

Correction: First paragraph:

"So, when people are giving you answers that don't fit into your propaganda indoctrination, (built on lies from Party bosses), you accuse them of being 'haters' and 'bigots', and anything else FROM the usual tactical, worn out, hollow 'play book'.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:40 AM

Here Bobert, lets go in baby steps.....

"With THREE links(two provided by me, and one of them was the search page with multiple sites), and Babette says that N.G. is dodging the question, when he's been repeatedly hit with the answers....(given by those you pretend to not understand).

Like right now!..You are dodging..and pretending....so who do you ask??..the other 'Great Pretender'!

(continuing)...."and then they turn around in a glazed eye stupor, try to change the subject,"

Like you are trying to do AGAIN, right now!

(Continuing).."and accuse the people giving them the answers, of being 'haters' bigots, and other names from the 'so-called liberal' play book."

So, when people are giving you answers that don't fit into your propaganda indoctrination, (built on lies from Party bosses), you accuse them of being 'haters' and 'bigots', and anything else the usual tactical, worn out, hollow 'play book'. This is because shallow, 'so-called liberals' don't seem to be able to think for themselves, use name calling, as to TRY to discredit, whomever they are talking to, whenever they are cornered and have to confront the truth. They do this because the 'excuse department' ran out of truth and/or logic...so all you got is some lame-ass accusation tossing, hung over from the '60's to try to discredit them....(is that clear enough?)

(continuing)..."Now I didn't make this stuff up....it's all there, for all to see....and then they go blind..."I diddent see it"

Just scroll back and read the posts....you guys do this over and over again, and then when the person whom you FALSELY accuse, by 'name calling', object, and fire back, you try to paint them as a nasty, mean person...and claim something stupid like 'You didn't understand it' or '..it wasn't said clearly enough'(LIKE NOW)...or, you just go on, as if nobody asked you a question about something you posted about your positions!

(Continuing)..."Now come on, if being a dedicated liberal, or conservative relies on this kind of blatant dishonest tactic, how can the 'cause' be anything less than deceptive????"

Self explanatory

(Continuing)..."you say its white..they say it's black...you say the sky is blue...they say magenta .....you post an article...they don't agree with WHO the source was....you provide a variety of sources...they blame Bush, and call you a name.
Boy, where do I sign up....you guys have sold me!!...(rolls eyes)

Always arguing over nothing but the smallest anecdotal 'points', and taking the reverse argument, even when it is not the point being talked about....so, to clarify, the person who you are talking with provides a link, to back up what they are saying, and for you to comment on. Then you start trying to discredit the source, even if the story is truthful, but you don't like what is being said....or, it refutes your position...or, sheds light on something that you don't want to hear, believe, or embarrasses you to the 'reading audience'.....then, the big escape hatch: Blame Bush!.....Sorry, I know Bush was a disaster, but Obama, when elected, had Congress(both houses) but did NOTHING, but push his Obamacare through, which is more of a massive amount of governmental control over the people than anything near 'health care'. He could have done SOMETHING to undo what Bush had done, or he could have reversed some of Bush's 'Executive Orders'...but NO..he did the same fucking things along the same fucking path...up to, and including NDAA!!!!!
Now, with this bit of lame bullshit, along with your 'head in the sand tactics', you want to try to 'entice' people to your position?????
FUCK NO!!..It is not only dishonest, it's lame! Why would anyone 'come over' to an indefensible, dishonest point of view...especially when the proponents of that view act so childish, as a result of holding that view????????

(Too much reading for ya' huh?....next you'll claim fatigue)

These!..I hope that wasn't too strenuous for you two.

Care to comment on the TOPIC?? as per aforementioned?? (Now that you 'should' have had it made clear??

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 09:32 AM

bobette.
Your Boy Wonder proposes cutting social spending.
Is that what you elected him for?
Oh I get it.
That's only bad when Republicans propose it.
When Prez al-Obama proposes it, it's a good thing.

Sad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 08:46 AM

Yo, Don... Can you decipher GfinS last post??? Seems a tad incoherant...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:27 AM

With THREE links(two provided by me, and one of them was the search page with multiple sites), and Babette says that N.G. is dodging the question, when he's been repeatedly hit with the answers....and the same goes for the Froth-meister...and then they turn around in a glazed eye stupor, try to change the subject, and accuse the people giving them the answers, of being 'haters' bigots, and other names from the 'so-called liberal' play book.
Now I didn't make this stuff up....it's all there, for all to see....and then they go blind..."I diddent see it"
Now come on, if being a dedicated liberal or conservative relies on this kind of blatant dishonest tactic, how can the 'cause' be anything less than deceptive????
you say its white..they say it's black...you say the sky is blue...they say magenta .....you post an article...they don't agree with WHO the source was....you provide a variety of sources...they blame Bush, and call you a name.
Boy, where do I sign up....you guys have sold me!!...(rolls eyes)

Just go for the truth, don't color it...just the truth...it may cause your 'opinions' to align themselves closer to reality!

P.S. Relax, Don, you're excluded!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:18 AM

I thought so.
Not a peep out of you.
But when a Republican so much as mentions cutting Social Security or Medicare
You Boys Scream The Loudest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 07 Apr 13 - 11:49 PM

Blablabla...yakyakyak.....
Just remember bobette.
It wasn't a Republican that proposed cuts to Social Security and Medicare this time around.
It was your Boy Wonder.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Apr 13 - 11:26 PM

No, N.B....

You have dodge the question...

YOU made the accusation... I said no cherry picking... Most of those folks never made it into the Obama cabinet...

What you have done is pure simple laziness... You made the claim... You go thru the entire list of cabinet appointees and not rely on some Obama Hate Brigade BS blog-shit...

Get to work... No rightie blog-shit... Lets get real here... There are thousands of folks who are appointed in every administration... Do you even understand that???

I mean, oif you are going to do the accusing then you need to do the homework...

here's a good start... Just take the cabinet appointees that Obama has made... ALL OF THEM...

Get back to us when you have done your homework and not just assumed that some right winged Obama Hate Blog has it covered because guess what???

They don't...

I'll be awaiting your final answer with baited breath...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 07 Apr 13 - 11:13 PM

Here, bobette.
One of many lists.
He Sold You Out!


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Apr 13 - 11:02 PM

What issues???

Lobbyists???

Okay, N.B.

How about going thru his ALL his cabinet appointees and list which lobby they came from???

Hey, you made the accusation, dude...

Now do the homework... No cherry picking here...

Go thru ALL of them and come back with your findings...

Oh, too much work???

Too bad... You have made the accusation now put your money where you mouth is or shut the fuck up...

Easy to parrot right wing BS, ain't it???

Put up or shut up!!!

All of them, dude...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 07 Apr 13 - 10:45 PM

Confront the issues, bobette, Mr. Firth, Amos.
Don't engage in personal attacks.
Engaging in them makes you look bad.
Petty.
Smallminded.
Obama has filled his cabinet with lobbyists.
He claimed he would not do that.
He lied.


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