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pdq 13 Apr 13 - 06:42 PM
Don Firth 13 Apr 13 - 11:39 PM
Don Firth 13 Apr 13 - 11:55 PM
GUEST 14 Apr 13 - 02:06 AM
GUEST,TIA 14 Apr 13 - 02:46 AM
Bobert 14 Apr 13 - 07:31 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 14 Apr 13 - 12:04 PM
Don Firth 14 Apr 13 - 01:51 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 14 Apr 13 - 03:41 PM
Stringsinger 14 Apr 13 - 05:53 PM
michaelr 14 Apr 13 - 06:35 PM
Don Firth 14 Apr 13 - 08:19 PM
Don Firth 14 Apr 13 - 08:37 PM
pdq 14 Apr 13 - 08:40 PM
Don Firth 14 Apr 13 - 08:42 PM
Bobert 14 Apr 13 - 09:37 PM
Rapparee 14 Apr 13 - 09:54 PM
Stringsinger 15 Apr 13 - 01:38 PM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 23 Apr 13 - 03:54 AM
Joe Offer 23 Apr 13 - 04:22 AM
Jack the Sailor 23 Apr 13 - 04:29 AM
Joe Offer 23 Apr 13 - 04:35 AM
Jack the Sailor 23 Apr 13 - 04:56 AM
gnu 23 Apr 13 - 06:08 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: pdq
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 06:42 PM

Here is an actual publicity photo of...


                                                                                                      Don Firth


Bet the guy could charm the stinger off a scorpion, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 11:39 PM

Wrong, pdq.

There are several "Don Firth's" on the internet, most of them not related.

THIS is me.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 11:55 PM

And, Goofy, you don't state any clear questions to be answered. There is no substance to comment on, and you don't post any verifiable facts to rebut.

You claim you asked a question in a previous post and try to make it look like someone is dodging it. We scroll up and check your posts and you have not asked anything that resembles a clear question. You not only try to pull that stunt with me, you do it to Bobert as well, along with anybody else who posts something you don't agree with.

It's all a bluff on your part, and anyone with a brain can see it, as do quite a number of people on these threads.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 02:06 AM

"Saturday, April 13, 2013 / PROGRESSIVE JOURNALISM FOR POSITIVE ACTION"

That was 'cut and pasted' from the article posted by TIA.

So, is that a biased OPINION??..or news?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 02:46 AM

It's an opinion piece dumbass.
It says so right at the top.
Look immediately to the left (hold your hands up and your thumb and index finger will make the letter L) of the title: it says "OP-ED" in all capitals.
Do you really need instructions on how to read?
Keeerist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 07:31 AM

Yeah, TIA, that's why I rarely click on blue clickies... Most are propaganda... Just because they are on the internet doesn't make them true... I find it humorous that folks put them in their arguments as if they alone are "ah hah, gotcha" moments... They prove absolutely nothing...

BTW, one of them had me ask GfinS a direct question... You know... Less than 20 words that isn't surrounded with reams of mindless wandering...
Still awaiting GfinS's answer...

Nice site, Don... You have that James Taylor look to ya'... I'll listen to the songs later...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 12:04 PM

Bobert: "Less than 20 words that isn't surrounded with reams of mindless wandering..."

Whadya' do?..count the words, and couldn't answer the questions??

You're just ducking and weaving, avoiding a question that has you choking!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 01:51 PM

What question, Goofy!??

If you can't restate the question in straightforward, readable English, then we have to assume that there was no question, and you're just doing your thing again.

=======

And Bobert, I'm not totally happy with the songs that Bob (Deckman) put on the archive web site, but he didn't really have much choice. Many of them were taken from his collection of miles and miles of open-reel tapes, many of which were recorded at parties, song fests, and informal hootenannies ("informal hootenannies"—that's redundant!), where we often tried out songs for the first time that we had just learned, and often they hadn't quite "jelled" yet.

Some of the ones he has of me were also on open-reel tape, home recordings off the air of the "Ballads and Books" educational television series I did in 1959. The other voice on the records is Buzz Anderson, a broadcasting student at the U. of Washington, acting as "interviewer," and asking me questions we thought the viewers might have asked if they could.

Fun shows to do!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 03:41 PM

Firth: "And Bobert, I'm not totally happy with the songs that Bob (Deckman) put on the archive web site,..."

You're not happy with much of anything except your own opinions..then go into a 'tizzie-fit' when holes get blown open all through them.

Just a friendly observation.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Stringsinger
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 05:53 PM

Obama has made a serious error by putting FDR's Social Security and Johnson's Medicare "on the table". Of course the GOP has not done better by insisting on deeper cuts to public programs. The enactment of the NDAA is a serious breach of democracy.

The Second Amendment has lost it's historical meaning. No British soldiers quartered in America. A well-regulated militia doesn't call themselves the NRA.

The other big mistake will be to approve the Keystone XL Pipeline against the criticisms held by climate scientists over the world. There are a few nutty dissenters but they carry no weight and are mostly shills for corporations but that's another thread.

The Democratic and Republican Parties have both been corrupted by lobbying money and John Roberts (who should be impeached for claiming corporations are people in the Citizen's United ruling). That's also another thread.

The problem is that the system is broken. Money has corrupted it. Obama is not totally to blame here but it has to be shared by Congress, some members of the Senate, the Tea Party, The GOP and Dems.

There are no good actors in the halls of government these days which is controlled by corporate interests (a definition of fascism) and the dilution of the effectiveness of government agencies bought out by the revolving door.

We need a strong grass roots movement to push Obama into better decisions. That won't come by moaning and groaning, whining and pulling hair out over Obama. It's time to grow up and take action.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: michaelr
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 06:35 PM

What, you're gonna believe what the socialists say?


;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 08:19 PM

Goofy, your opinion is as the empty wind blowing across the desert, carrying before it nothing but dust and sand, and the hollow sound of its own howling.

Whether the songs posted are the best work I can do is not at issue. The fact is, people paid to listen to me sing. In concerts, coffeehouses, and on television. Repeatedly. I made a good living that way for a substantial percentage of my life.

So I don't care what you think.

By the way, you have yet to "blow a hole" through any of my opinions.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 08:37 PM

Socialists? No.

Let me refer you to the following:

CLICKY.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: pdq
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 08:40 PM

Don Firth holds his opinions as holy to begin with.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 08:42 PM

Verily.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 09:37 PM

Seein' as anything that the wrongman posts is 100% Obama hate this thread should be moved to the "Obama Hate" thread where it belongs... That is the purpose of that thread... You know, to keep the hate in one area so that it doesn't spread... Kinda like fighting cancer...

Yo, moderators... Please combine...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Apr 13 - 09:54 PM

The President sends a budget PROPOSAL to the House. The House passes it and sends it to the Senate. The Senate passes it and sends it to the President for enactment.

If the Congress doesn't like the proposal or some part of it they can change it.

What's hard to understand about this?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Stringsinger
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 01:38 PM

That's the plan, all right. Problem is that the House is dominated by crazies from the Tea Party and the GOP. The House will probably not pass it because the majority party is out to get Obama.

The biggest mistake is the cutting of Social Security and Welfare for political reasons.
This will follow Obama in his budget. The House majority will never accept tax hikes for the wealthiest of Americans. Obama has already compromised his budget to get the GOP to budge. Most Americans don't like this and consider Obama to have betrayed them.

I wonder why Americans vote representatives to create stalemates in governing bodies?


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Subject: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 03:54 AM

Crown jewel of The New Deal, Prêž ßãräçk Hûššêîñ âl-Õbåmã wants to sell off the TVA.
He's doing more to wipe out Roosevelt's legacy than any previous president in my memory.
Any Takers?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:22 AM

Damn. And I thought we were safe from privatization, now that Thatcher and Reagan are dead...
It figures, though - it was a Democrat (Clinton-Gore) who privatized me out of a government job.

-Joe-

Here's it is, from page 51 of Obama's 2014 Budget Proposal:
    Reform TVA. Since its creation in the 1930s during the Great Depression, the federally owned and operated Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) has been producing low-cost electricity and managing natural resources for a large portion of the Southeastern United States. TVA’s power service territory includes most of Tennessee and parts of Alabama, Georgia, kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, and Virginia, covering 80,000 square miles and serving more than nine million people. TVA is a self-financing Government corporation, funding operations through electricity sales and bond financing. In order to meet its future capacity needs, fulfill its environmental responsibilities, and modernize its aging generation system, TVA’s current capital investment plan includes more than $25 billion of expenditures over the next 10 years. However, TVA’s anticipated capital needs are likely to quickly exceed the agency’s $30 billion statutory cap on indebtedness. Reducing or eliminating the Federal Government’s role in programs such as TVA, which have achieved their original objectives and no longer require Federal participation, can help put the Nation on a sustainable fiscal path. Given TVA’s debt constraints and the impact to the Federal deficit of its increasing capital expenditures, the Administration intends to undertake a strategic review of options for addressing TVA’s financial situation, including the possible divestiture of TVA, in part or as a whole.

Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2014/assets/budget.pdf


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Subject: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:29 AM

In an unprecedented big government plan his plan is to issue breast pumps, to all lactating women collect the milk in predetermined holding facilities then redistribute the natural bounty to any citizen who has an NRA sticker on their car.

"I'm gonna milk those mothers for what they got and give those crybabies what they deserve." He was quoted as saying.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:35 AM

I will resist saying something unkind....but I can't help but think it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:56 AM

Thank you for your oh so useful input Mr. Offer. There is no thinking like free thinking.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: gnu
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 06:08 AM

Why can't the cap be enforced? Why would privatization be any different than raising the supply price to meet the cap? To me, that is spineless on the part of politicians. It takes the control of the supply price away from the people and gives it to a for-profit enterprise. This is about a utility, not a duck call manufacturer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: gnu
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 06:17 AM

I know what he meant.

Near spit ma tea on the OP. Good one!


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 06:28 AM

The cap is an arbitrary one placed by Congress for borrowing by the TVA. They a looking at a way to borrow the money to make the improvements without the orange American Speaker and the two Pauls, Ryan and Rand whining about the national debt.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 06:48 AM

This just in. GOP filibustering Lactation law. Jon Boner, Orange American said, we are OK with the idea in principle, we just want to milk it for some tax breaks for the appropriate industries such as Big Pharma, the medical device industry and the new up and comer, Big Breast.

Already the (AGWB) Associated Guys With Boobs has filed a discrimination lawsuit.


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Subject: BS: Obama Moves Lacto-Socialist thread
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:04 AM

Jackbooted Kenyan Neo-Colonial thugs have tried to move this important news from the public eye.

Be vigilant! Important news must be spread!



Subject: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:29 AM

In an unprecedented big government plan his plan is to issue breast pumps, to all lactating women collect the milk in predetermined holding facilities then redistribute the natural bounty to any citizen who has an NRA sticker on their car.

"I'm gonna milk those mothers for what they got and give those crybabies what they deserve." He was quoted as saying.


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Subject: BS: Fascio-lacto-socialists bury truth!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:30 AM

Obama Moves Lacto-Socialist thread
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:04 AM

Jackbooted Kenyan Neo-Colonial thugs have tried to move this important news from the public eye.

Be vigilant! Important news must be spread!



Subject: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:29 AM

In an unprecedented big government plan his plan is to issue breast pumps, to all lactating women collect the milk in predetermined holding facilities then redistribute the natural bounty to any citizen who has an NRA sticker on their car.

"I'm gonna milk those mothers for what they got and give those crybabies what they deserve." He was quoted as saying.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:33 AM

Premature Birthday wishes to Max have no bearing White House assures!



Obama Moves Lacto-Socialist thread
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:04 AM

Jackbooted Kenyan Neo-Colonial thugs have tried to move this important news from the public eye.

Be vigilant! Important news must be spread!



Subject: BS: Obama wants to Socialize Lactation
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:29 AM

In an unprecedented big government plan his plan is to issue breast pumps, to all lactating women collect the milk in predetermined holding facilities then redistribute the natural bounty to any citizen who has an NRA sticker on their car.

"I'm gonna milk those mothers for what they got and give those crybabies what they deserve." He was quoted as saying.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 01:14 PM

A president without the votes in Congress is in a hopeless situation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Wants To Sell The TVA
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 01:15 PM

All he can do is campaign for the 2014 mid terms.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Songwronger
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 07:18 PM

I see that a thread addressing Obama's handling of the TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority) was closed. The TVA is the huge hydroelectric system which provides electricity to the southeastern U.S. It was initiated by Franklin Roosevelt and took years to complete. Now Obama wants to privatize it.

"Reform TVA. Since its creation in the 1930s during the Great Depression, the federally owned and operated Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) has been producing low-cost electricity and managing natural resources for a large portion of the Southeastern United States. TVA's power service territory includes most of Tennessee and parts of Alabama, Georgia, kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, and Virginia, covering 80,000 square miles and serving more than nine million people. TVA is a self-financing Government corporation, funding operations through electricity sales and bond financing. In order to meet its future capacity needs, fulfill its environmental responsibilities, and modernize its aging generation system, TVA's current capital investment plan includes more than $25 billion of expenditures over the next 10 years. However, TVA's anticipated capital needs are likely to quickly exceed the agency's $30 billion statutory cap on indebtedness. Reducing or eliminating the Federal Government's role in programs such as TVA, which have achieved their original objectives and no longer require Federal participation, can help put the Nation on a sustainable fiscal path. Given TVA's debt constraints and the impact to the Federal deficit of its increasing capital expenditures, the Administration intends to undertake a strategic review of options for addressing TVA's financial situation, including the possible divestiture of TVA, in part or as a whole."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2014/assets/budget.pdf

So, Obama wants to privatize the TVA. And note how the TVA is not the only targeted program here. Obama says, "Reducing or eliminating the Federal Government's role in programs such as TVA, which have achieved their original objectives and no longer require Federal participation, can help put the Nation on a sustainable fiscal path."

This opens the door to privatize everything that was built with federal money. Stone cold fascism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 07:39 PM

Good gracious. You have a strange definition of fascism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: skarpi
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 08:24 PM

Bill Clinton once said , there is a Government inside my Government and I don´t control it ...but it gets a lot of money of the budget ..
about 500 billion dollars .

I wonder why no one don´t do anything about this ..
and also who are in that other Government Bill was talking about ??

I wonder ...

but what a heck I am just a watcher from out side , looking inside

all the best Skarpi


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: Songwronger
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:10 PM

It's called the Shadow Government. It's our intelligence services. Their budgets are not reviewed by our congress. John F. Kennedy promised to disband the shadow government, but then he was killed. His promise died with him. That was in the 60's. Representative Leo Ryan of California introduced a bill to review the budgets, but then he was killed. His bill died with him. That was in the 70's.

Our shadow government does not receive enough tax money to finance itself, so it resorts to the drug trade, arms trading, and so on. The Iran-Contra scandal was an example of the shadow government dealing drugs and arms.

All the average citizen can do is admit the truth and speak out about it, but unfortunately not many Americans are willing to do that. The lie is more comfortable. Also, many adults behave like children, denying that a problem even exists. The people who run our country try to control us with fear, and they are good at it.

The world admires Iceland, by the way. You people forced your leaders to act responsibly, and now you are benefitting from that. Or I hope you are. May Iceland thrive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's Budget
From: kendall
Date: 24 Apr 13 - 07:47 AM

Anyone who thinks that the rich need tax breaks to create jobs should look at the record. In the 8 years of the village idiot's rein, few or no jobs were created.

Right now, corporate profits are at an all time high while unemployment is way too high.Banks are sitting on billions hoping the economy gets worse for the mid term elections so the republicans can regain power.They count on the sad fact that too many Americans have the attention span of a goldfish.


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Subject: BS: Bomber CONVICTED -Time for Running Man 2
From: Songwronger
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 12:25 AM

President Barack Obama posed several questions Friday night in addressing the nation after the bombing suspect was captured: "Why did young men who grew up and studied here as part of our communities and our country resort to such violence? How did they plan and carry out these attacks? And did they receive help?"

http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-boston-marathon-main-0421-20130421,0,7262921.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_m

Well, he was convicted by Obama. And he had his throat ripped out, so he can't say "patsy." Case closed. Or is it? Obama asked if they received help.

And then there's this:

The FBI was last night hunting a 12-strong terrorist "sleeper cell" linked to the Boston marathon bomb brothers.

Police believe Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were specially trained to carry out the devastating attack.

More than 1,000 FBI agents were last night working to track down the cell and arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar's dramatic capture after a bloody shootout on Friday.

A source close to the investigation said: "We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.

"They were too advanced. Someone gave the brothers the skills and it is now our job to find out just who they were. Agents think the sleeper cell has up to a dozen members and has been waiting several years for their day to come."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844

A dozen terrorists waiting years to blow up a couple of pressure cooker bombs at a marathon? Yeah, that's believable. About as believable as this. I guess we'll now see the the dozen other terrorists hunted down in the sequel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bomber CONVICTED -Time for Running Man 2
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 12:45 AM

There he goes again, folks.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Bomber CONVICTED -Time for Running Man 2
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 12:54 AM

Songwonger, you have become entirely too predictable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bomber CONVICTED -Time for Running Man 2
From: gnu
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 04:42 AM

I only opened the thread to read responses to the OP that I didn't read.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bomber CONVICTED -Time for Running Man 2
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 05:56 AM

Shouldn't this thread be combined with the last one?


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Subject: BS: Pres Obama admits causing harsh winter
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 06:34 AM

The President said. "Uhhhh What can I say? I went out in the rose garden on February second and I saw my shadow. Sorry about the floods midwest."

Sean Hannity who broke this news on his program Wednesday night said "I always knew he was a neo-colonial, Kenyan born, socio-fascist, corporatist/progressive, Big Government entitlement shrinking ground hog."


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Subject: BS: Obama Steals Charlotte Mayor
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Apr 13 - 11:01 PM

Its part of a plot to deprive North Carolina of decent municipal governance!


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Apr 13 - 12:07 AM

Well, Songwronger, it is being said of you that you are 'predictable'...I would ALMOST wonder, 'Why?'...it must be because you are historically accurate, and your post:From: Songwronger
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 10:10 PM...
is dead fucking on!!!!
You would think that the 'so-called liberals' would applaud you,...after all, the Democrats (as a party) were opposed to the Contras..even Biden wanted credit for the
Boland Amendment...funny how the stripes change color, when your 'party' is running low on integrity.....but really, who cares?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 13 - 01:49 AM

Talk about predictability...


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread...
From: bobad
Date: 30 Apr 13 - 06:54 AM

Yep, our daily bowel movement.


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Subject: RE: BS: Operation Fast and Furious
From: Songwronger
Date: 05 May 13 - 09:06 PM

Obama Blames U.S. For Gun Violence In Mexico

"Most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States," President Obama said during a speech at Mexico's Anthropology Museum. "I think many of you know that in America, our Constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms. And as president, I swore an oath to uphold that right, and I always will."

"But at the same time, as I've said in the United States, I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common-sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerous people. That can save lives here in Mexico and back home in the United States. It's the right thing to do," Obama added.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/03/obama_blames_us_for_gun_violence_in_mexico_pushes_for_gun_control.html

Obama runs guns into Mexico and then behaves like this. He has absolutely no dignity, and probably no conscience.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Obama Recovery Begins
From: Songwronger
Date: 05 May 13 - 11:01 PM

The social crisis in America

4 May 2013

US stock markets surged Friday to new record highs as Wall Street traders seized on a tepid jobs report to engage in a fresh orgy of speculation.

The official line promoted by the Obama administration is that the United States is in the midst of an accelerating economic recovery...........

For millions of older workers, the prospect of economic security and a decent retirement is growing ever more distant as the elderly are forced to dip into their savings and take on ever greater debt just to survive. The debt of Americans aged 65 to 74 is rising faster than that of any other age group, according to Federal Reserve figures. For a typical household led by someone 65 or older, household debt grew by more than 50 percent between 2000 and 2011.

The already insufficient benefits provided by Social Security and Medicare, the federal retirement and health care programs, are being scaled back. Fewer and fewer retirees have a guaranteed pension. Among those that do, many have resorted to borrowing against their pensions and paying usurious interest rates to unscrupulous lenders.

Last week, the New York Times reported that companies that offer pension advances often charge interest rates, after factoring in fees, of between 27 and 106 percent. Older households spent 7.1 percent of their incomes to pay off debt in 2010, up from 4.5 percent three years earlier, according to figures from the Employee Benefit Research Institute.

Earlier this month, Wells Fargo reported that the number of older workers borrowing from their 401(k) retirement accounts—and paying penalties to do so—surged 28 percent at the end of 2012 compared to the same period in 2011.

Conditions are no better at the other end of the age spectrum. Almost 16 million children in the US, or 22 percent, live in families whose income is below the federal poverty line, according to the National Center for Children in Poverty. Last month, the United Nation's Children's Fund released a report showing that, among developed countries, the United States ranks 26 out of 29, behind Greece and just above Lithuania, Latvia and Romania, in terms of the percentage of children living in poverty............

Nor is poverty confined to the unemployed. According to a report issued last month by the US Census Bureau, the percentage of the population who are "working poor" rose dramatically, from 5.1 percent in 2006 to 7 percent in 2011. One quarter all those in poverty—about 10.4 million people—are working.

The bulk of new jobs are in low-paid service industries, and even manufacturing workers increasingly make as little as $10 an hour—a poverty wage for a family of four.

The effects of poverty are myriad. According to one recent study, 80 million adults in the US, about 43 percent of the total population, did not get medical care sometime in 2012 because they could not afford it. This is up a shocking 17 million since 2003.

Growing poverty and social distress are treated essentially as non-issues by the mass media. According to a recent study by the Pew Research center, the US media focused just one fifth of one percent of its news coverage on the topic of poverty. "In no year did poverty coverage even come close to accounting for as little as one percent of the news hole," Mark Jurkowitz, the project's associate director, told Harvard's Nieman Foundation.

In an earlier period, such indices of social distress would have been treated as a national disgrace. Today, far from proposing any measures to address the social crisis, the Republicans and Democrats, with the Obama administration in the lead, vie with each other over how best to slash Social Security, Medicare and other vital social programs.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/05/04/pers-m04.html


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Subject: RE: BS: The Obama Recovery Begins
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 06 May 13 - 05:44 AM

It's about time Congress voted themselves a pay raise, don't you think?


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