Annachie Gordon - Youtube

Subject: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 22 Mar 14 - 04:58 PM

Will some Mudcatter please load Nic Jones' version of "Annachie Gordon" on Youtube.
There are lots and lots of "cover" versions of the song on Youtube and they all seem to cite Mary Black, Loreena McKennit etc as their inspiration!
Let's give credit where credit is due!
All the versions on Youtube owe their origins to Nic's version...even though they don't seem to realise it.
Indeed, one chap claims that he learn the song ( Nic's version ) from his grandmother!

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: GUEST,James Moran
Date: 23 Mar 14 - 04:29 AM

Nic's version of Annachie Gordon is indeed the source for all other versions on youtube, but you wouldn't know it!
AND, Nic's version is so great!
If you are a folkie, but haven't heard Nic's version, well...

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: BobKnight
Date: 23 Mar 14 - 05:40 AM

Where did Nick get HIS version from?? Just asking. :)

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Mar 14 - 11:25 AM

Bob, in the words of Mr Jones himself:

For Annachie Gordon, I adapted the tune found in Christie's Traditional Ballad Airs and collated verses from Lord Saltoun & Auchanachie (Buchan's Ballads of the North of Scotland), Young Annochie (Murison MS), and Lord Saltoun & Annachie (Christie's Traditional Ballad Airs)...

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 23 Mar 14 - 12:02 PM

With all that research/reworking going on, you would have thought that Nic would be entitled to some royalties from "cover" versions ( in particular Loreena McKennit who, I believe, sells album in the millions!)

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: GUEST,James Moran
Date: 23 Mar 14 - 04:16 PM

I wonder if Nic has been rather naive when it came to copyrighting arrangements;
After all, as we have heard, Nic took lines from a number of versions, and then put it all together with an "adapted" tune.
And that is the version that "everyone" on Youtube sings.

But, like Tunesmith, the thing that annoys me is that the praise and the attention that Nic deserves is being lavished on Loreena Mckennit and Mary Black.

PUT UP NIC'S VERSION!

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Mar 14 - 07:49 PM

Mary Black should give credit where it is due.

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 24 Mar 14 - 12:30 AM

I always thought Mary Black and Loreena McKennit got it wrong. There are other threads here about the origins of the song as well. I thought the comments above got it right when asking about video versions.

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: BobKnight
Date: 24 Mar 14 - 06:42 AM

Well, Mary definitely got the words wrong at the beginning, although she makes a lovely job of it, I love her singing.

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: BobKnight
Date: 24 Mar 14 - 06:44 AM

Ooops!! I forgot to say thanks to "Guest" above who gave me the info on where Nic got his version from. Thank you!! :)

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Mar 14 - 07:36 AM

Recalling that Paul Simon copyrighted his/Martin Carthy's arrangement of Scarborough Fair, I wondered if uK folk musicians have successfully copyrighted their versions of traditional English ballads. Or whether is works in this country, or if its work the bother. I think Bob Dylan recorded Nic's version of CANADI-A-O, but it was listed as a traditional song on the album, although this song more than any bears Nic's handiwork.

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: Noreen
Date: 24 Mar 14 - 09:18 AM

Tunesmith, re. the chap who got the song from his grandmother: the grandmother probably got it from Nic Jones :)

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 24 Mar 14 - 12:47 PM

Noreen, good point! I keep forgetting how long ago it was that Nic recorded the song!

Subject: RE: Annachie Gordon - Youtube
From: GUEST,Dick Miles
Date: 25 Mar 14 - 07:44 AM

She has a good voice,but her version is a little wooden,she is singing to the accompaniment,it should be sung more freely, with the guitar following the voice,not the other way round, compare it to Nic Jones version, she was wet behind the ears.