Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor

Subject: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Tina
Date: 03 Apr 14 - 08:07 AM

Has anyone had experience of this book?is it worth buying?

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 14 - 09:38 AM

Do you have the exact title, Dick?

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Dick Miles
Date: 03 Apr 14 - 02:46 PM

For the benefit of Tina.
Song Accompaniment for English Concertina

I have included in this book eleven of my own favourite songs, which have proved popular with audiences over the years, with accompaniments for 48 key treble English concertina, with three examples of contrasting styles for the same song, Adieu Sweet Lovely Nancy, Streams of Lovely Nancy, and Brigg Fair.

My reason for producing this book is to help people to develop ideas and their own style by showing the different techniques that I use, that they might learn initially by copying and then through listening to myself and others be able to analyse and develop their own individual styles.

I have tried to illustrate three fundamentally different approaches. 1. chordal style, 2. single line harmony, 3. melodic style, and occasionally examples that include more than one approach. These are of course not the only way, just my way, and I hope will be an inspiration to all to provide ideas so that you can develop your own style. How you accompany a song is of course a matter of taste, and what satisfies one person may annoy someone else.

This book is intended to be a follow up to the Concise English Concertina Tutor, and to be used in conjunction with it. I have included full verses to all the songs so it can be used as a song book as well. I have included a section on chord substitution which I hope may prove helpful. Between these two books I have included some sixteen songs.

I hope you enjoy them.

Contents
2. Introduction
3. Chord Substitution
5. Adieu Sweet Lovely Nancy
8. Rounding the Horn
10. Bogie's Bonny Belle
12. Brigg Fair
14. Greenland Whale Fisheries
16. The Greenwood Laddie
18. Home to the Haven
20. Sailortown
22. The Seeds of Love
24. The streams of Lovely Nancy
28. Though I live not where I love

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Tina
Date: 03 Apr 14 - 03:40 PM

Oh dear, not what I was looking for at all. but thanks for the info.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Apr 14 - 03:41 PM

I love irony...

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST, Tommy irony, Tommy Steeles son
Date: 03 Apr 14 - 04:26 PM

A vast percentage of the human race is literally not wired neurologically to get irony. Well more than half of humanity takes life at face value, which is to me terrifying.
Douglas Coupland
People use irony as a defense mechanism.
David Byrne
I don't think I see the world in terms of stupid or clever, but in terms of being able to get irony. There's some awful statistic about only 20 per cent of Americans being able to understand irony.
Douglas Coupland

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 14 - 06:31 PM

A grenade exploded near my leg. Now my leg is very irony.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Your Mate
Date: 03 Apr 14 - 08:01 PM

Dicky

They are not taking you seriously!

Bit unfair really because your contribution to this thread is as lucid as I have ever known you.

Tina

What the hell did you expect?

You were addressing (perhaps inadvertantly) a minor meglomaniac.

Hey Ho

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 12:14 AM

[sigh]

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: breezy
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 03:42 AM

spinach , red meat and water cress

is this an up me own rs plug

All those songs are best accapaella

48 buttons eh , must take a long time to get ready in the morning.

Good old Dick

Holst comes to mind

me at loughton Folk Club Thurs 15th May lovely melodeon player resident there

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,DickMiles
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 05:30 AM

"All those songs are best accapaella"
Accapella, not accapaella.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Dictionary Owner
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 05:49 AM

Or even a cappella...

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 05:51 AM

Good try Breezy! Sadly, some people don't do humour! :-)

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 06:53 AM

Some people do humour, but find different things funny
Breezys Humour, Songs such as the song I heard him sing "I dont like Portuguese", I do not find funny.
Oscar Wilde was much wittier than Breezy, and possibly knew more about trad song than Breezy.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 09:22 AM

"Is your book worth buying?" - "Jeeze no; I wrote it so that I don't need to buy it!"

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,CJ
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 10:34 AM

Well done Dick, good to see someone working to continue the tradition, despite the occasional stray dog pissing on your leg because you're a little different.

Don't let the bastards grind you down.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 01:56 PM

Two Dogs and a Vindictive bitch.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: r.padgett
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 12:56 PM

that is all unfair to Dick Miles, he was asked and he told people about his accompaniment Tutor

Ray

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 02:08 PM

Dick IS the opening poster.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 11:34 AM

Thanks for the write-up, Dick. I don't play concertina myself, but it sounds to me as if your book would be helpful for anyone who does.

I'd love to make a subtle but scathing comment about the people who attack any thread on actually making music.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Tina
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 10:58 AM

The charming thing about Dick Miles is he's produced a song accompaniment tutor and has drawn attention to it in his own way. Whether it was him at first or not is beside the point. Bullying is bullying.

How many Song Accompaniment Tutor books have you perfect formed lovely and normal people produced? Or is it just some Bullying Slight Eccentric Tutors, maybe?

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: johncharles
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 11:18 AM

It is important to know who is posting. If people used their membership name or a consistent guest name, none of this nonsense would happen.
john

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 11:44 AM

The problem is not with anonymity. It's with people pretending to be OTHER people so they can talk about, or to, themselves. Sock puppets. Dick's problem is that people who are familiar with him can see him doing it.

I hardly ever have posted as a guest. The last time was when I got a new phone and didn't have a cookie on it, but I "signed" the message. This is what I believe is right for ME, but I don't have a problem with anonymous folks just for being anonymous. It's people being manipulative I dislike.

It's a very difficult thing to promote one's self, and in this smallish world of folk, one really has to. Some people figure out how do so with honesty and grace, but it can't be easy.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: johncharles
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 11:56 AM

Jeri,I guess the only people that really know are the moderators. If what you say is true about people pretending I find it rather sad.
john.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 12:03 PM

John, I've seen very few people do it. I suspect they think "everyone else is doing it".

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 12:53 PM

It used to be common practice here to put something akin to "Shameless Self-Promotion" in the subject when individuals wanted to promote their work. Honest and up-front, and no-one seemed to object.

Unfortunately, the OP's artless (some might say 'deceitful') opening gambit laid him wide open to criticism and piss-taking, sad but that's how it goes.

Hopefully a lesson learned?

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 01:03 PM

I do not care what you like, Jeri.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: johncharles
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 01:32 PM

Jeri is honest enough to put his name to points he makes, unlike anonymous "guests". John

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 01:43 PM

Jeri is a woman. Do keep up.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,matt milton
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 01:56 PM

I wonder if the "GUEST" who posted the above comment about Jeri being a woman is the same "GUEST" who described someone as being a "vindictive bitch"?

For all that one comment above suggested Dick Miles was being "bullied", I have to point out that the nastiest, most aggressive comment in this thread was the one calling someone a "vindictive bitch".

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: johncharles
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 01:58 PM

Guest, How would I know that from what is written on this thread. You for example could be either male or female. John.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 02:10 PM

Different guests, matt. And johncharles, the "jeri" is a more feminine spelling vs. Jerry, if you think about it. Just like you probably wouldn't find a man with the spelling "Kris" over "Chris" (unless you're talking about Kringle).

Dick, why not try a heading of "shameless self-promotion" next time? It might keep some of the nonsense out of the thread.

SRS

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 02:15 PM

Dick, are you posting as Tina? If so it's kind of creepy, especially since your book is a valuable product and doesn't need a phony shill out in the audience. A friend of mine who plays English never played chords or sang with his concertina (only played tunes) until I gave him this book and now we can't shut him up. It really broadened his horizons.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 02:18 PM

Cross posted with SRS. I guess that answered my question.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 02:34 PM

you probably wouldn't find a man with the spelling "Kris" over "Chris" (unless you're talking about Kringle).

The only people I've ever heard of who spell the name that way are Kris Kristofferson and Kris Drever. So I'd say the exact opposite.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Dick Miles
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 02:36 PM

I am glad the book is useful.
Gillymor,I have to say there is not much that is creepy here, there appear to be at least three different Tinas
definition of a concertina is an accident between two moving vehicles, according to my computer tracking technology, this is appropriate here, in fact I would say 3 moving vehicles.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Not KrisGoodbody
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 02:40 PM

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Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 02:46 PM

Kris Akabusi, British athlete.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 04:46 PM

Johncharles, I don't really mind the not-knowing of my gender. But you're telling GUEST you don't know their gender by what's in the thread, but I posted as a member, and it didn't make a difference. No matter to me, anyway.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 05:54 PM

I'm with Jeri on this one. It is the deception used to manipulate that is troublesome. Just say you have a tutor to sell. A perfectly fine thing to do on Mudcat.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: johncharles
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 07:02 PM

Sorry about that Jeri. I must remember to calm down before posting.

For those that may be interested; the following :
Book: Song Accompaniment for English Concertina a Tutor
32 Pages / A4 GBC-CombBind bound
Price: €23.50 incl.VAT and Delivery.
is available at:

http://www.dickmiles.com/p/my-shop.html
John

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: r.padgett
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 07:03 PM

O dear, so tina is Dick Miles is that correct?

Ray

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 10:39 PM

There were several parties naming themselves "Tina." The nasty ones were not posted by Dick.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 06:47 AM

The "vindictive bitch" one, Stilly? For the record, I'm not vindictive.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 08:15 AM

Tina's first name is Concer, but among her many sisters are Argen, Autolat, Bet, Can, Chris, etc. Her pa is quite old.

If Mudcat made GUEST nicknames temporarily password protected (valid for, say, a month), at least this kind of abuse would be stopped completely and easily, which would be in the interest of all readers, not only of GUEST posters (who can be asked to become a member if they complain).

On the other hand, postings under several nicknames by single persons ("astroturfing") cannot be suppressed that easily, if at all. We must be careful not to be trapped.

Since self-promotion is not banned on Mudcat, it makes no sense to try to camouflage it. It is not an indication of quality if someone can mobilize two or three applauders - some of the worst amateurs have a lot more fans friends.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 08:34 AM

Dick posted about that tutor on TheSession, about a year ago (before he got banned long-term). The resulting thread was one of the very few over there where he didn't get flamed to a crisp - the responses were fairly positive. You'd think he might have learned something from that.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 08:43 AM

Gosh, some people do get excited about the most mundane things!

By the way, has anyone ever used this tutor, and is it any good?

Kampervan (definitely not Dick Miles, I've never met him or spoken to him, no vested interest, although I did watch a YouTube video of him some years ago).)

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Musket
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 10:17 AM

Here Grishka. It wouldn't be the same concer who has been chatting me up in the BS threads would it?

I have been fantasising what she looks like in the pink and wrinkled, and trust me, she didn't look like, nor include, Dick.....

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 12:03 PM

"Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 01:56 PM

Two Dogs and a Vindictive bitch."
       No one was named in the above post, no names no pack drill.
Did anyone mention anybodys name? they did not.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 12:37 PM

Who's on First?