Subject: Songs About Self-Castration From: Jack Campin Date: 16 May 14 - 06:37 PM I just came across this in the Shakers' first song collection, Millennial Praises (1813): There are Eunuchs IN ancient days, the scripture says, That lust was so despised, To get a name of better fame, Some chose to sacrifice it: For their distaste to things unchaste, Great princes sought their favour, To guard the place from actions base, And all unclean behaviour. 2 Bed chambers were their constant care, Hence they obtain'd their title, Which simply means, female guardians, Who every passion bridle. Such foes to lust, when put to trust, Were faithful in their station, And by their fruit gain'd such repute, They almost ruled the nation. 3 From eunuchs then, tho' made of men, Much light and truth descended, Since by that line, God did foresign The work which he intended. By all the wise, who virtue prize, The name was still revered, Till in that name the substance came, And Christ himself appeared. 4 Hence from his throne he then made known The way of self-denial, And eunuchs were call'd forth to bear The gospel's fiery trial: Lust-hating men were chosen then, Unto a work still greater, And their employ was to destroy The beastly law of nature. 5 He comes again, on earth to reign, His court is now erected, A mansion sure, for virgins pure, Where they can be protected; While eunuchs clean, are their guardians, His glory in the center, No lustful man, then ever can His sacred chambers enter. 6 Tho' men of wit, search sacred writ, And read the lifeless letter, And rack their sense with vain comments, It never makes them better. The case is plain, who now shall reign, The elder or the younger? And who shall be the sapless tree, The eunuch or fleshmonger? 7 Ye, who were led from nature's bed, Like bullocks to the slaughter, You have a name of better fame, Than that of son or daughter; Your root, we know, will spread and grow, Sap'd with the Holy Spirit, And none but these green olive trees, Christ's Kingdom shall inherit. No tune mentioned, though. ("Mr Tambourine Man" sorta fits). And according to this srticle on the Castrators of Russia, they had quite a lot of their own religious songs: http://etor.h1.ru/castrati.html though there is no mention of any being written down or recorded. Is there anything singable out there? |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: BrooklynJay Date: 16 May 14 - 07:58 PM Ahhh... now I know why I haunt these boards! Yes, "After the ball is over..." Anyway, self-castration is a little out of my league, but there's David Massengill's The Eunuch's Lament: I am a eunuch brave and true I am a eunuch through and through With a hey ninny ninny High ninny ninny Hey ninny high nanny poo O in this life I've had no fun I've had no gun to bang the bun With a hey tooter shooter High dangler banger Hey tooter high banger boo I have no ding to dong the queen I have no use for the latrine With a hey zipper dipper High zapper dapper Hey zipper high dapper doo O as a lover I am a flop I've never heard a cherry pop With a hey piggy squealer High fanny squasher Hey piggy high squasheroo The Queen is hot but I am not For long ago my wad was shot With a hey blapper nipper High blapper whapper Hey blipper high whapper woo The clocks go tick the bells go bong I'd give my arm for an eight-inch wong With a hey wonger bonger High wanger banger Hey wonger high bangeroo I am a sexless shepherd bred I'll never prod where others tread With a hey gooser moocher High gander masher Hey gooser high masher coo O all the plums of Italy Will never peel their bush for me With a hey beaver basher High pubic poacher Hey beaver high poacher chew My feet are flat and not only that I've got no balls to beat the bat With a hey weener peeler High tater nailer Hey weener high nailer blue The dames go chit the dames go chat I cannot wipe their welcome mats With a hey weezer squeezer High asser splasher Hey weezer high splasher poo John Dillinger had a twelve inch prick It's fellers like him who make me sick With a hey super drooper High party pooper Hey super high pooperoo The time has come to bid good riddance Til the eunuch makes his next appearance With a hey fuck you High fuck you --And I mean that with all my heart...on-- Fuck you and your big whalzoo The song is available from Smithsonian Folkways and some other sites on the Net. Just the thing for your next song circle! Jay |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: GUEST Date: 16 May 14 - 08:04 PM I always liked Tony Rose's version of Sheath and Knife. But it's not explicit. |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 16 May 14 - 10:37 PM Nice addition. JACK...I know you are a MC newbie... What is. YOUR source? (hb book? web archive?) Where did YOU discover "Shakers' first song collection, Millennial Praises (1813)" Sincerely, Gargoyle nice addition ... much better than posting to "Lyric Added" which seldom get off a single post. |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: GUEST,John Foxen Date: 17 May 14 - 10:42 AM There are First Cut Is The Deepest and Phil The Fluter's Ball but the person to ask is rapper Andre Johnson (aka Christ Bearer) who has just cut off his own Wu-Tang. |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: Thomas Stern Date: 17 May 14 - 01:12 PM subject is addressed in works by GERSHON LEGMAN. Thomas. |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: Jim Carroll Date: 17 May 14 - 03:26 PM "Sheath and Knife. But it's not explicit." Explicit enough, "He's gi'en himsel' a wound full sair, He'll ne'er ride to the broom nae mair". Can't speak of Tony Rose's version of it; that's the text I know. Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: Nigel Parsons Date: 17 May 14 - 05:24 PM I posted the following in April 2011, on This Thread. Dave the Gnome said that in future 'he' wanted to be known as 'Polly'. It was then suggested as a suitable subject for a Song Challenge, hence: THE GNOMES SEX CHANGE Nigel Parsons 14/4/11 (apologies to Ewan MacColl) I'm a gnom-ee, I'm a gnom-ee from Manchester way I've taken my pleasures the good laddish way Renouncing that may seem quite churlish But now I want pleasures quite girlish. The day was just ending, as I was descending To Glasto, just South of the Tor And being quite dense, I jumped over a fence The wire ripped through the britches I wore. It also ripped right through my manhood (gnome-hood?) Leaving me terribly sore. And the doctor he said, without laughing! That I could be a dad-gnome no more! I'm a gnom-ee, I'm a gnom-ee from Manchester way I've taken my pleasures the good laddish way Renouncing that may seem quite churlish But now I want pleasures quite girlish. The specialist said I'd lost more than my 'head' In truth, I'd lost most of my dick. And tho' skin's quite elastic; still with surgery plastic I'd more chance of a 'cave' than a 'pick' (sorry, dwarvish joke, I couldn't resist it despite the pain!) I made up my mind in a jiffy Though what I was losing was small. The internal workings are iffy The unkindest cut of them all! I'm a gnom-ee, I'm a gnom-ee from Manchester way I've taken my pleasures the good laddish way Renouncing that may seem quite churlish But now I want pleasures quite girlish. Now I go where I will, over valley & hill And I don't care what other gnomes think I remember my fate, I use stile or gate! And my beard I've dyed a light pink So I can still go on a bender When to folk club, or folk fest I roam. For no-one there questions my gender. It matters to none but a gnome. I'm a gnom-ee, I'm a gnom-ee from Manchester way I've taken my pleasures the good laddish way Renouncing that may seem quite churlish But now I want pleasures quite girlish. |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: GUEST,..gargoyle Date: 17 May 14 - 08:06 PM Dear Mr.Thomas...friends will cut you some grace...if you will do the same... like Jack you are obvious MC newbies. PLEASE ... expand upon your post "GERSHON LEGMAN." url? HBbook? insider joke? writer, publisher, or YOUR original contact? Sincerely, Gargoyle imagine an postgraduate accessing this thread a decade from now |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: GUEST,..gargoyle Date: 17 May 14 - 08:06 PM Dear Mr.Thomas...friends will cut you some grace...if you will do the same... like Jack you are obvious MC newbies. PLEASE ... expand upon your post "GERSHON LEGMAN." url? HBbook? insider joke? writer, publisher, or YOUR original contact? Sincerely, Gargoyle imagine an postgraduate accessing this thread a decade from now |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: Jim Carroll Date: 18 May 14 - 04:11 AM Gargoyle Gershon Legman was a folklorist who spacialised in sexual folklore and humour. I think the work being referred to is 'The Horn Book' (wonderful title), but his better known work was the two-volume 'Rationale of the Dirty Joke' - particularly volume two, 'No Laughing Matter', which deals with the 'dirty, dirty joke'. His masterwork was his edition of the Vance Randolph collection of "Unprintable" Ozark Folksongs and Folklore, vol 1, 'Roll me in Your Arms' folksongs and music) and vol. 2, 'Blow the Candle Out' (folk rhymes and other lore). He did a similar job with the much-pirated The Limerick A scholar who very much 'stood out' in his field of research, you might say. Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: Jack Campin Date: 18 May 14 - 05:55 AM What is. YOUR source? (hb book? web archive?) Probably the same one anybody would find. Did someone cut your googles off? Where did YOU discover "Shakers' first song collection, Millennial Praises (1813)" Somebody here mentioned it a few years ago as the source for "Babylon is Fallen". I was looking for other Shaker songs. |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: Shimbo Darktree Date: 18 May 14 - 06:35 PM I am impressed. I'm knackered if I can think of any such songs. |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: GUEST,Brian May Date: 18 May 14 - 07:07 PM I presume all these songs are rendered in a painful falsetto? |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: Steve Gardham Date: 19 May 14 - 06:25 PM The late Mike Soar of Selby wrote an absolute classic on getting the snip (from personal experience). He appropriated the tune and some of the words of 'Banks of Sweet Primroses'. Well worth including here if anyone has a copy. |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: GUEST,LynnH Date: 20 May 14 - 01:30 PM Is this a follow on from the various transgender threads here? |
Subject: RE: Songs About Self-Castration From: GUEST,Marianne S. Date: 20 May 14 - 01:57 PM No. |
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