BS: Pathetic goading

Subject: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Musket
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 09:20 AM

Once again, someone, the same person as last time, has started a thread by challenging "liberals" to defend something that he thinks is bad.

A thread has just opened on the operation trojan horse.

The OP has decided that people will defend the indefensible and invites them to do so.

Is it just me, or are some people beyond help?

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 10:06 AM

I think one of the main perpetual barriers to ever establishing sensible solutions to real recognisable problems in society,
is that they inevitably become polarised and apropriated as either 'left' or 'right' propaganda issues.

The stupid, ignorant, stubborn, belligerent, doctrinaire, arseholes at all extremes of the political spectrum,
are all our own worse enemies...

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 10:39 AM

Once again, someone, the same person as last time, has started a thread by challenging "liberals" to defend something that he thinks is bad.

Actually he was just pointing out that our lefties appear to have been proved wrong about something again.
I suppose that is goading, but why should we tip-toe around their feelings when they are so nasty to anyone who challenges or questions them?

If they were ever proved right they would be insufferable!

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Musket
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:02 AM

Who in particular then Keith?

Most of the normal, respectable, decent sane people who you refer to as "lefties" tend to, with few exceptions, oppose the idea of faith schools and this story proves the point that children should be protected from religion rather than brainwashed by its dangerous influence.

By the way, when you say "we" and "they" be careful who you get into bed with... You certainly don't refer to the majority of Mudcat members, the vast majority are rational, balanced and capable of reason.

You just posted to put forward your Islamaphobia didn't you?

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:07 AM

Definition of "liberal (small l)" from the 'Oxford English Reference Dictionary': "given freely, ample, abundant, open-minded, ot prejudiced, not strict or righteous, favouring individuality".....
Just about as far away from our resident old-usual goose-steppers as you could get.
Perhaps our rightist friend meant it as a compliment, d'you think?
Islamophobic threads are a little like London buses - if you miss one, there'll be another one along in a minute.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:12 AM

MacColl's tribute to the archetypal anti-liberal, Eunuch the Excellent
Jim Carroll

Present-day hero,‎
Sporting a pinstripe and wearing the regiment's tie,‎
Blood in his eye - the world on his shoulder.‎
Trims his moustache while he's dreaming of destiny's hour,‎
Greedy for power -‎
Ready to save the nation, and lead us in the fight,‎
Never a doubt that everything he does is right.‎

National hero,‎
Neat little man who's been chosed by Fate to redeem
The national dream: Imperial Greatness.‎
St. George with a briefcase, he's looking for dragons to slay,‎
Waits for the day -‎
We ask him to save the nation, and lead us in the fight,‎
Never a doubt that God is absolutely white.‎

Classical hero,‎
Standing alone on the bridge, he's defending the race,‎
Setting his face against the invader.‎
Knowing the worth of a man can be seen by his skin,‎
The killing begins -‎
Determined to save the nation, and lead us in the fight,‎
Never a doubt that virtue is pure unblemished white.‎

Yesterday's hero,‎
Trapped in a bunker and died like a rat in a hole,‎
Ultimate goal of second-hand heroes.‎
Another one rises, demanding the right to be heard,‎
And gets the bird -‎
History shrugs its shoulders. Gives a big horse-laugh,‎
And the cut-price hero ends up with the rest of the trash!‎

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:20 AM

Strikes me, the priority should be to actively seek pragmatic solutions to perceived social problems.
By active willingness to attempt to achieve workable compromise and consensus, to establish common ground agreements
and mutually benefitial resolutions as swiftly as pracaticable.

Not to indulge in perpetual confrontational fixed vewpoint ideological hostilities
in a never ending costly 'playground bullies' fight of attrition.

ie.. there are far too many loudmouth zealots on all sides who need to be told to shut up and eff off,
so sensible folk caring can get on with trying to unravel the fucked up society
these uncompromising die hard wankers have created and sustained.

I watched 10 minutes of Prime Minister's Question Time the other day;
what a bunch of smarmy smug toss pots.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Stu
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:24 AM

"If they were ever proved right they would be insufferable!"

Hmmm. But us 'lefities' were right over:

WMDs in Iraq

The Tories wanting to privatise the NHS and the fact their manifesto pledge to leave it untouched was a lie

Gay marriage

Women bishops

No one gets tried for any of the financial crisis and mismanagement that caused the last recession.

Clegg being a tory arse licker

Most of our leading politicians having their snouts right up the shitter of Murdoch (including Salmond, dear Scots).

The tory desire to privatise everything (Royal Mail etc)


Here's another for you:

The real perpetrators of the Ukraine outrage will never see the inside of a courthouse as there is way too much at stake with regards to trade and energy supplies with Russia to ever bring these bastards to book. And the tories will let it slide.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:31 AM

Jim Carroll: "Definition of "liberal (small l)" from the 'Oxford English Reference Dictionary': "given freely, ample, abundant, open-minded, ot prejudiced, not strict or righteous, favouring individuality".....

...and I call SOME on here, 'so-called liberals', because none of the things that Jim posted fit the description of certain people who claim to be 'liberal'...only because they've been confused...and have become pawns!

'So-called liberals' are some of the most, closed minded, prejudiced, self-righteous, opinionated, small minded, afraid to grow up, anal retentive assholes on the planet...who think more about being accepted for their dumb-fuck opinions, than they care about people..including themselves!
They THINK they are so 'hip' and politically savvy, when all they are are empty-headed, programmed parrots, who can't think beyond their indoctrinations!

I think that pretty much covers it.

GfS

P.S. No it didn't cover it...how about bigoted, immature morons who pride themselves in being armchair name callers, to answer every question that their retarded minds can't honestly answer. They are emotional disasters, who rely on getting others into a whipped up emotional tizzy, as a premise for 'proving a point' which premise is completely false...and if somebody points that out, they go into a menopausal conniption-fit of pretend indignation!!
In other words, they're intellectually suicidal and proud of it..and too arrogant to even consider 'another possibility' to ANYTHING!!

Well, that's getting closer!

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:35 AM

The first paragraph in anon guest's message above was, I bet, run through a translator a few times. I personally like "pracaticable", which I'm pronouncing "pracatickable". The whole thing probably started out as "can't we all just get along?" Well, no, but I think having a nice thread for pathetic goading, about another thread about pathetic goading is sort of like looking in a mirror that is aimed at another mirror that reflects the first mirror reflecting the second, etc.

The situation is serious. Not so much discussions on Mudcat including "the usual suspects".

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Wesley S
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:38 AM

Oh - Who cares? As the song says "It doesn't mean shit to a tree".

If you really want to piss off the "other side" - whatever that is - just tell them they are right. They win. It will take the wind out of their sails.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:44 AM

Yes, you're right Wesley. You win ;-)

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:52 AM

""I watched 10 minutes of Prime Minister's Question Time the other day;
what a bunch of smarmy smug toss pots.""

Since you are an anon. Mr./Miss. /Mrs./Ms. Guest, from an unknown location, should we really know what "Prime Minister" of what Nation you refer to? We could make assumptions from posting clues -, but that may be seen as presumptous?

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:57 AM

"pracaticable" = careless misssssspelling of 'practicable'.

Solution - Eye testing for reading glasses or bifocal lenses and/or dump 14 years old 17" CRT
for new larger widescreen monitor.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: pdq
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 12:11 PM

So, Stu...

You pulled this thread way off-topic, but as long as you did...you said:


Hmmm. But us 'lefities' were right over: WMDs in Iraq


So please explain the "550 metric tonnes of Yellow Cake Uranium" that were airlifted out of Iraq in July of 2008 on orders from George W. Bush so that his successor "would not have to deal with the problem".

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 12:27 PM

"because none of the things that Jim posted fit the description of certain people who claim to be 'liberal
Sorry Guest for insanity - you'll have to give us a lingk to your own personal dictionary - until such time, I'll stick with the srndard ones
"So-called liberals' are some of the most, closed minded, prejudiced, self-righteous, opinionated, small minded,"
And many of the rightists her propound views that fill ovens
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 12:35 PM

Go back to sleep, PeeDee. Talk about pathetic.....

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Stu
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 12:49 PM

"So please explain the "550 metric tonnes of Yellow Cake Uranium" that were airlifted out of Iraq in July of 2008 on orders from George W. Bush so that his successor "would not have to deal with the problem"."

Where to start . . . Firstly, Yellow Cake is not a WMD, nor is it direct evidence for any WMD. Saddam had no means we know of to use Yellow Cake (a common low-grade ore that's basically been mined and milled) as a basis for making weapons-grade nuclear material. That it was part of a nuclear programme at some point is of no doubt, but Saddam did try to build a reactor there as the Israelis bombed it in the 1980s. It would't even make a very good dirty bomb as it emits too little radiation.

That said, 550 tonnes of the stuff lying about isn't good and all credit to Dubya for removing it for the good of the Iraqi people. Er, except he didn't: the Americans were contractors shifting the stuff on behalf of a Canadian corporation, who had purchased the lot off the Iraqi government with the aim of processing it and selling the resulting fuel on across the globe. As it happens, the UN already knew about this uranium prior to Bush's 2003 invasion as inspectors had visited the site after the first gulf war (when it was bombed). After Saddam was deposed UN and Iraqi troops guarded the site to prevent anyone from nicking the Yelllow Cake, and any other bits of equipment and stuff that might have been lying about.

Of course, it was Bush who went to war using the falsified information regarding Saddam trying to purchase Yellow Cake from Niger; a lie even the CIA wanted no part of for obvious reasons; they were under suspicion for cooking up the whole scam. Those pesky Italians rumbled Bush and Blair and although no-one has been held to account, those lovely, caring people at the CIA deflected attention and outed one of their own as a scapegoat - a betrayal of the most profound and unpleasant nature that shows there's no honour amongst thieves. The right-wing started all sorts of conspiracy theory crap to shore up their case and lack of moral integrity; too late, they pissed that away a long time ago and their case, which is groundless has been subject to numerous take-downs that are easy to find on Google.

The US and UK come out of this sordid little fiasco as they did out of the war: stinking of shit, and showing the depths of their contempt for their own people, who they have lied to constantly.

There were no WMDs.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: pdq
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 01:11 PM

Well Stu...thanks fo answering the qustion. Many on this forum are quite gutless and would not have even tried.

Now, you said: "...Bush who went to war using the falsified information regarding Saddam trying to purchase Yellow Cake from Niger.." after saying that the presence of such material was not important. So why can it possibly be important to have tried to get more?

There were three phases of The Gulf War:

    1991: Eviction of Saddam's forces from Kwuait

    1992-2003: No-Fly Zone Phase. We could not possible be accused of "invading Iraq in 2003 since we already (By demand of The UN!) controlled 70% of the country.

    2003 (march): Phase III, the taking down of Saddam Hussein and his government. BTW, Clinton asked for the go-ahead for this in 1998 when Saddam threw-out the UN weapons inspectors.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Musket
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 01:30 PM

You start a thread about the pathetic goading on a thread that has hopefully died without reply and look what you get..

The reactionary nutters come out to play.

Throw them a biscuit someone, keep them quiet for a while.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 02:55 PM

Thanks, guest--makes sense now. I still kind of like "pracaticable".

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 03:25 PM

is this (guest from sanity)some spoof of some swivel-eyed, outraged and out of time retired colonel blimp from the south? surely to say 'all liberals' or all whoevers are all this or all that is just being wilfully ignorant and gratuitously insulting to many good hearted people. i'm not a liberal - too angry and bitter to indulge in that anymore- but there are good and bad in all groups of people -most of us are all just trying to get by without bothering anyone else. however, in my experience many tories, nearly all big capitalists, most of those who live to acquire and the majority of sad, duped fools who give them any respect can - usually, in my opinion - tend to be on the wrong side of any argument.
then again, what would we find here on mudcat if we all repected each other?

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 04:27 PM

"...how about bigoted, immature morons who pride themselves in being armchair name callers, to answer every question that their retarded minds can't honestly answer. They are emotional disasters, who rely on getting others into a whipped up emotional tizzy, as a premise for 'proving a point' which premise is completely false...and if somebody points that out, they go into a menopausal conniption-fit of pretend indignation!!
In other words, they're intellectually suicidal and proud of it..and too arrogant to even consider 'another possibility' to ANYTHING!!"

Oh, wow. I am WAY too polite to suggest that the above paragraphs come much closer to describing a certain not-so-sane guest.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 04:37 PM

Judging by how much they post here and how emotional they get, I don't think some of them have much else going on in their lives.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 04:39 PM

Would it be wrong to start a copycat thread "Pantheistic Goating"?

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 05:10 PM

"The only problem with having sex with a goat is you have to walk around to the front when you want to kiss them." ― Ronnie "The Hawk" Hawkins

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 05:15 PM

"I love you more than I love goats, and you know how I feel about goats", Gaby said." 
― James Patterson, The Christmas Wedding

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 05:18 PM

lets not assume the goat wants to be kissed. always keep it consensual- no matter how horny you may be

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 05:18 PM

Mystery Guest #794,912,593: "I think one of the main perpetual barriers to ever establishing sensible solutions to real recognisable problems in society,
is that they inevitably become polarised and apropriated as either 'left' or 'right' propaganda issues.
The stupid, ignorant, stubborn, belligerent, doctrinaire, arseholes at all extremes of the political spectrum,
are all our own worse enemies... "

'Left wing' and 'right wing' are on the same bird"
It's usually an ostrich with it's head in the sand...and can't fly!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 05:19 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: bobad
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 05:53 PM

"The only problem with having sex with a goat is you have to walk around to the front when you want to kiss them."

I can suggest a fix for that problem but the image it conjures up is.......well let's just say you don't really want to go there.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 06:02 PM

Was it goating, or goading?


my favourite goat song, to date 

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Janie
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 06:17 PM

Hey y'all, keep in mind that
Goats just wanna have fun

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Janie
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 06:24 PM

Dang, only thing between me being witty and not is the lack of an editing button:>)

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 06:31 PM

Goats do seem quite flexible, unlike some goading mudcat goats.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 06:43 PM

Ed, are you responding to Janie's post or bobad's? If it's the latter, I just remembered I'm out of brain bleach...

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: bobad
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 07:03 PM

Goat love

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 08:07 PM

I have had a very pleasant evening, playing irish music with friends in a pub, after reading this thread, I am so pleased that I went out and socialised.
Jeri, how do you manage to put up with this crap, if we ever meet I will buy you a drink.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 09:28 PM

I spent a lot of time in the military, Dick. I've heard and seen a lot. Still, the worst things haven't quite gotten as evil as someone sharing videos of a succession of men fucking a goat. It shocked me more because Bob thought it was worth posting the link to than because it happens.

And that's the last thing I want to have to do with this thread-turned-bucket-of-diarrhea, so I'll let others continue the horrors or the jokes, as the case may be. I'm willing to bet the hate will win out--please prove me wrong.


But Dick, I'd be glad to have a drink with you, no matter who's buying.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: bobad
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 10:09 PM

Hate?   I thought the thread had turned from that to lighthearted fun. Oh well, chacun à son goat I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: LadyJean
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 12:38 AM

My sister kept goats, fragrant creatures. You could smell her place before you saw it. Goats can eat poison ivy without getting sick. Goats can and will, eat almost anything.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 12:50 AM

Musket: "Is it just me, or are some people beyond help?"


It's you.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Musket
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 03:24 AM

Could be worse. Could be you doing the helping.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 05:34 AM

It's you.

GfS

P.S. The only people who think the 'lefties' are right, or 'proven right', are 'lefties'. The only people the who think that the 'righties' have proven they're right, are 'righties'.
So what's left that isn't right?..and if it's right, what's left?

You're all a bunch of foot soldiers for the way money is handled...you know, like the banksters have created your 'reality'....and like them, you lose your common sense, for humanity!..after all, the goal is contented consumers, even if you get talked out of reality, to get you there.

Havin' a Wonderful Trip?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: selby
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 05:44 AM

As a left handed person I sometimes have to use my right hand. Does that help?
Keith

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Musket
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 08:21 AM

Goofus is ambidextrous. His wanking is apparent in every post.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 08:35 AM

He's pond life, so you possibly mean amphibious.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Musket
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 10:16 AM

He wouldn't stand a chance in my garden pond. The newts, frogs and water boatmen have the top of the food chain sewn up between them.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 11:32 AM

FYI - if I take your meaning, over here in the US that term would be "pond scum."

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 12:08 PM

SRS....you are tarnishing your glowing image, when you join the name callers.

Mods should not indulge....you should try to be an example to us all?