BS: Abuse

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Musket
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 03:43 AM

His lad isn't quite as consistent though, and he's a Schmeichel.

Anyway, for someone who used to be a goalie, you have quite a few own goals on your record...

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 02:42 AM

As to me -- there was another great goalkeeper called Schmeichel!... 'voted the "World's Best Goalkeeper" in 1992 and 1993' - Wikipedia

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 02:39 AM

Eh, Richard-Schmichard?

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 02:36 AM

Oh dear. That's me told innit. Down-the-garden-to-eat-worms time again.

Teeheeheeheeheeheeheehee

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Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Musket
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 02:13 AM

This chariot Michael...

Would that be the handcart we are all going to hell in if we laugh at conspiracy theories?

Bugger. He was just starting to come round and you had to open your big mouth Musket. Hey ho....

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 01:54 AM

Wonderful (not) MtheGM. Not a trace of rationality, merely overweening hubris.

And your sly reference to Yiddish colloquialism gains you nul points.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 06:33 PM

Sorry, ake, IMO, you actually closely resemble your remarks. You are a frequent contributor or "lurking cheerleader" fueling discord versus debate. Are you proud of that and being seen as a one trick pony?

Imo, you lurk around threads, eagerly seeking any opportunity to promote "your favourite prejudices", or trying to insert them even where they dont fit.

When someone does not agree with your elitist homophobia, or cherry picked statistics, you call them names. You constantly contribute to name calling, and "whine to mama"when you quite often ard called out for it by many other other posters-many of whom have stated they disagree with your posted prejudices, especially related to homosexuals and the gay community.

If you dont have content, why resort to name calling. What is your purpose here, I ask again, as you stated you see little purpose in the thread and add zero content beyond ? Again, you were the first to post on this thread, and continue to lurk, inviting similar responses from those who clearly dont have much interest in your prejudices and cross-thread name calling.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 05:37 PM

Richard ~~ I have various sorts of respect for certain of your qualifications & opinions. But as any sort of linguistic or semantic authority, thou art as less than the dust beneath my chariot wheels, my good fellow...

decimate - schmesimate
alternative - schmalternative
mistaken pedantry - schmistaken schmedantry

be off with you - schme off with you

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Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 05:32 PM

Oh and Ian, your blustering inanity invokes nothing but pity in me. I have lived long and hard...saw your kind many many times, but this forum contains gentler souls than me, folks who could be intimidated by your mindless viciousness.
You are another who should take the hint, see how isolated you have become, weigh the strength of the few who still support you, do their arguments stand up to scrutiny any better than your own? I see no sign that they do, Richard employs the same tactics as you do, personal abuse and name calling.

Many of those who disagree with me, have written to disassociate themselves from your behaviour towards me....so don't feel that you have any claim to the high ground.
You are simply a bully who resents the fact that his ideology has come into question on several issues, so you fall back on the only weapons you have left in the armoury....personal abuse.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 04:58 PM

"Encouraging abuse".......that sounds like the cry of an apologist to me!

"Enablers!".....How ironic, coming from the fellow who started this ridiculous thread.

You should have taken the hint with my first post.....you've been rumbled. I have studied your MO with others here who took you to be genuine, they soon discovered that you are the opposite.

That is not name calling, nor is calling you a troll, your actions have given you away.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Musket
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 02:52 PM

Has Akenaton realised yet that unless and until he sees fellow humans as equal in every way, he is everything I say about him?

That isn't abuse by the way, it is cold calculated opinion.

Which, if I can be allowed pride, I am proud of. I

By the way, I never said anyone needed fucking by my dog, but I did say in reference to Keith that neither my dog nor would as we both have our standards.

I wouldn't ever subject my dog to being anywhere near a racing trainer such as yourself in any event. Four years since he was in racing kennels and he is still a nervous lad at times. He is taking a long time to recover from the trauma of being a racing dog. Each and every year I give donations to animal welfare causes trying to reform and improve the industry.

So no, I wouldn't let you of all people get fucked by my dog. The racing world has already fucked him. I'm just picking up the pieces.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 02:46 PM

Oh, and any pillock ought to have been able to work out that when I said "Conservatism" I was not referring to resistance to change but to the political party of the same name, the one that seeks to advance only the interests of the rich, and as far as possible at the expense of the poor, nay positively enjoys the oppression of the poor.

Enjoy the heroine Deborah Hopkins who will fight the next election as the Labour candidate for St Austell and Newquay. Her chimingly resonant tweets so far include:

1. describing the Coalition as "murdering b******s" (for their treatment of claimants).
2. suggesting (accurately in my view) that Government officials were intentionally killing people.
3. describing employees at the Department for Work and Pensions as "evil".
4.   suggesting that the DWP do in fact seek "population control by starvation."
5. claiming that Conservative Party objectives included "killing the sick, starving the disabled, evicting the poor, destroying the hopes of children, stealing billions from the public."

And her best one, to someone abusing her on Twitter - "I'd call you a cunt but you have neither the depth nor the warmth"

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 02:37 PM

MtheGM - you are not a legitimate inheritor of the mantle of two respected film companies, you of all people ought to use "decimate" accurately, and the prevalence of ignorance does not make it wisdom.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 11:09 AM

""General light hearted "abuse", may be acceptable to some, if a little childish"

Yes, but some seem to encourage, if not maintain, it by their participation-versus ignoring it.

IMO, these folks are often the ones to complain (aka whine) to the broad community, or to thecmods, when they occasionally lose at their own "enabling" game.

I have sympathy for those who are innocent targets, but not for those who work hard to encourage abuse.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 11:01 AM

I agree Stu, but I don't believe your session would countenance the type of abuse routinely handed out by Ian in this forum?

"It would be better if you stopped breathing"
"You are a thick c**t"
"you are a pathetic ignorant worm"
"you need f****d by my dog".....are a few of his milder epithets.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Stu
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 10:44 AM

"General light hearted "abuse", may be acceptable to some, if a little childish"

In our session it's the norm. Long may it continue.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 10:00 AM

Good try at abuse, "ake".

"ake", you truly are showing your the name calling colours, while attempting to call others out for it...you complain it takes away from meaningful debate- how hypocritical.

Oddly you were the first to post on a thread titled abuse (you know, the one you try and convince perple dont like), and continue to "maintain" your boring argument with a few others on mudcat through many posts.

What is your real purpose on this thread, "ake"?

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 09:47 AM

There have thankfully been very few abusive responses to this thread.

To call you a troll Ed, can hardly be designated as abuse.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 08:40 AM

A misplaced and foolish* piece of pedantry about normal idiomatic use of "alternative", Richard. Every intelligent linguist or semanticist knows that appeal merely to etymology is never a convincing (& rarely an accurate) argument.

Such deserve to be decimated; and I do not mean reduced in length by ⅟10...

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*but quite typical...

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 08:38 AM

Richard "Conservatism deserves such abuse"

That is one of the most thoughtless remarks that I have read.
Some of the best people in our locality are "socially conservative", how can you dare to demonise 50% of the population and call yourself a liberal.

The rest of your post concerning homophobia, racism etc is simply untrue, unless you consider the discussion of controversial issues, as "homophobia", "racism" etc?

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 08:32 AM

In his last post, Ake has announcedche has taken on the role of speaking for the entire membership of mudcat, including the mods. Truly a "coup d'etat" and one small step backward for mudkind.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 08:20 AM

There is a difference Stu, in Ian's interpretation of abuse and the rest of the membership.

General light hearted "abuse", may be acceptable to some, if a little childish, but Ian uses personal abuse as a weapon to demean and intimidate other members.

Personal abuse in place of reasoned argument has no place here.


The mods don't like these threads and they are correct, they just provide a place for the intellectually challenged to vent their frustration.
I cant understand why anyone would wish to start such a thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Stu
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 07:50 AM

To be fair ake, this thread is entitled "abuse" and was set up to be an abused-focussed thread. Big nose.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Musket
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 07:49 AM

Err.. You don't demolish reason with lies and subjective cuts and pastes. You just show your right wing reactionary (not to mention gullible) arse.

Sorry, I'm just saying that for passive vaguely interested people. Akenaton wishes to believe Keith's shit purely because he hates that I point out the pathetic bigotry he passes as opinion. Anybody attacking Musket must be right when you are a sad piece of bigoted shit.

By the way, I'm Musket. Not Ian. I don't allow myself to get familiar with scum. I'm only Ian on some days for that matter, but few seem to realise that, despite the three musketeers being a fucking clue...

You know, it isn't easy sometimes, believing in equality. It means that decent normal people of different race, gender, sexual orientation and social standing have to see Akenaton as equal. Odd but one of life's ironies.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 07:43 AM

I do not see every alternative (you mean "other", the maximum number of alternatives one may have is two, for if there are more than two choices no one is alternate to any other) as vile or deserving of abuse. Conservatism and other further right points of view deserve such abuse. So does your homophobia and other bigotry. So does KtheA's endless obsession with evils that he can associate with Islam - and indeed Terribilis's xenophobia.

I close with a lovely quote I found here - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11006057/Labour-candidate-who-called-Tories-murdering-b-s-reinstated.html. The woman obviously deserves to lead the Labour Party if it is to regain worthiness of its name, and it is appalling that she was forced to apologise for telling the truth.

But her tweet to a person abusing her is a classic.

"I'd call you a cunt but you have neither the depth nor the warmth"

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 06:11 AM

Perhaps you do like that Richard, but Keith has demolished Ian over several different issues on this forum, so he has nothing to offer but obscene abuse.
I would say that was pathetic rather than funny.
Ian dislikes Keith because he points out the misrepresentations and outright lies which constitute the major part of this posting.
I'm a little surprised that you see every alternative view as deserving of such treatment.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 05:03 AM

Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much.
Oscar Wilde.
so" I forgive you"

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 04:50 AM

Oooh, I like that, Mither (and your consideration for your dog, too). A worthy contender.

I don't think MGM-Lion is the real thing. Back in the dawn of history a law firm I was a member of acted at differing times both for MGM and British Lion. It was a matter of public knowledge and so is not client confidential. But in any event "MLC" is Mad Lizzie Cornish.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 04:24 AM

You forgot to print WHAT I found intolerable Ian.

"Just to clarify, Keith needs fucking, but I'm not offering, and neither is my pet dog. We both have our standards."

This is typical of your contributions to this forum, no attempt at reasoned argument, no attempt to explain your dismissal of published facts, just vicious insults designed to demean anyone who holds alternative views to yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Musket
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 03:37 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: akenaton - PM
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 12:26 PM

This is becoming intolerable, what is the point in keeping deleting this creatures posts? Wouldn't it be easier just to pull the plug on him?



Hear Hear!

If Mudcat was moderated under UK law or even just common decency, Akenaton's homophobic rants would lead to his account being dropped as the hosting ISP could be in the dock at the side of him if it didn't prevent his incitement to hatred. A crime where he lives. (And a crime to post it even if the servers are abroad.)

You see, free speech is actually responsible speech and his bigoted sweeping dismissal of anyone different to him, claiming they spread disease and shouldn't have equality in society is extremely offensive.

Ignoring it as most decent members are doing only encourages him as he thinks he makes valid points. Of course, if you do pull him up you are a liberal!

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 02:54 AM

Nemmine "happiness". I'm like Arthur Clennam in Little Dorrit: "I want to know, you know..."

So tell me, if you don't want an earful of the thread title ~~ or I might call you something really wounding: like "Piddlepants" of "Lollilegs"!

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Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 02:00 AM

You'll be happier if you don't remember.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 01:59 AM

So we dispense with the topic and get straight to the insults and abuse? It's an idea that could change the internet forever...

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 01:42 AM

Can't remember who 'MLC'. Please remind...

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Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Aug 14 - 10:49 PM

I like the Shakespeare make-your-own insult things, too, don't you beslubbering motley-minded fustilarians?

Anybody notice that Na na na na Na na is a human universal? That is, kids taunt in the same rhythm in all languages and cultures?

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Aug 14 - 02:42 PM

Oh no, MtheGM - ickle fwuffies would have MLC defending them and then the rest of us could leave...

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 01:51 PM

Well, this is most likely the correct sandbox for "the kids" to fling products and prejudices from (and, even the odd boomerang)-given it is surely "to be".

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Stu
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 12:36 PM

I dunno. You kids.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: akenaton
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 12:26 PM

This is becoming intolerable, what is the point in keeping deleting this creatures posts? Wouldn't it be easier just to pull the plug on him?

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Musket
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 12:08 PM

Its only self abuse if the cucumber is classed as dead.

Just to clarify, Keith needs fucking, but I'm not offering, and neither is my pet dog. We both have our standards.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 11:10 AM

Keepjng quiet reminds me of a cucumber-library incident- but, I not going there, as this isnot a self abuse thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Musket
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 11:06 AM

It'd be the only way to keep his arse quiet

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 11:00 AM

There has not been one Hamas-Israel post under the Cucumber thread, yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Midchuck
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 09:59 AM

Never get involved in a debate with a master debater.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Stu
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 09:37 AM

Musket and Keith obviously fancy the arses off each other, and should be allowed to have a thread of their own and some privacy.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 09:19 AM

"It is a common delusion that you make things better by talking about them." Dame Rose Macaulay

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 08:42 AM

Oh god: is every thread for evermore to go the same way.

Think I'll start one on pretty ickle fluffy pussy-kittens, and see how long it is before people are slagging Israel & Hamas off on that one.

Any bets?

≈≈Grr·ROARrr·Rrr!≈≈

                   ~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 07:28 AM

So you could not find any examples of " defending terrorists bombing Palestinian families and saying anyone who disagrees with them are Jew haters and sympathisers of Hamas?"

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: Musket
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 07:21 AM

Dear Fed Up.

That is why I played his cut and paste game just once. You have to lower yourself to the level of bigots in order to prevent them saying they are right by default.

This is about abuse. Keith's excuses for obnoxious bigotry is a prime example.

Subject: RE: BS: Abuse
From: GUEST,Fed Up
Date: 31 Jul 14 - 06:34 AM

How can anyone be so stupid, with only one head?