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Subject: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Mar 15 - 08:07 PM

Seeing is beliving video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32qqEzBG9OI

This is the most succinct understanding of Cosmology from Einstein until today. Warning: The explanation of the powerful energy of empty space may burst the brains of novices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-vKh_jKX7Q


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: olddude
Date: 15 Mar 15 - 08:27 PM

No discussion of string theory


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Mr Red
Date: 16 Mar 15 - 05:32 AM

Ted.com will inform on why they think there is dark matter & dark energy

dark matter can be proven by looking at a cluster of close galaxies (ones that aggregate because of this dark matter). Around the perifery is a smear of parts of a circle of light. This is light from behind the cluster being deflected by an unseen mass, because the mass is spherical (ish) and light that radiates , radiates in all directions and that which would just miss us gets bent back to us from everywhere in 2 dimensions. a speakers at TED.com explains it better.

dark energy is explained by the way the universe is expanding, the best theories can't explain it, so they have pencilled-in dark energy until Einstein Mk2 comes along.

Patricia Burchat: Shedding light on dark matter - she explains it more accurately than I.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 11:24 AM

Red; I believe you are on to something important.

Odd Dude, (Just kidding Old Dude) We can not measure the claims of string theory. Also I believe that string theory has gone down the wrong rabbit hole* by trying to elucidate the cosmos by using the math hang ups in quantum theory and the General theory which operates without the knowledge that much in both theories is right for the wrong reasons evident by the addition of two cosmological constants to "correct" for this lack of knowing an important unrecognized reality. If you hang on I will show you how this missing knowledge can be abbreviated with the star of David or even concepts like the I Ching. What I mean be an abbreviation is like abbreviating all the collected volumes of every book ever written with a single period but such is the nature of language when faced with a description of the duality of simplicity and complexity in what the cosmos really is instead of getting bogged down in the description of its parts.


*Do check out the DVD Down the rabbit Hole. Also String Theory's need to satisfy the math with 10 or eleven obscure dimensions can be shown to be absurd on a black board in less than a minute. Dimensions are relative too and are basically six, twelve in total and 144 by way of relating to each other. Bear in mind cosmology is the one thing I do persistently above all other things for many decades.

The measurements of the cosmos and our fairly recent observations of our expansion satisfies one conclusion over all the others. The Sherlockian conclusion that is left takes our understanding to a new level of Physics so we can see what is twice removed from our direct observation but is at once in harmony with uniting all Physics.

The theory I present you is within the clear visual grasp of everyone and by coincidence or not intimated by some very old geometries making the new concept feel like an old friend.

For the beg picture I have described allow me to go to WORD first and even add some pictures that will make the complex clearly simple.
BBL


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Apr 15 - 02:38 AM

OK, here it is, the most easily understood view of our universe. First get a shovel and dig a hole.
Put all the dirt from the hole in one pile.
Dig until it is as big as you can make it.
Notice that the dirt you took out of the hole is roughly as tall
as the hole is deep. This is the first great cosmic truth.
This is your first grand duality. There will be dualities close to infinity like a fractal has repetitions.
Dimensions are easier to see in your head than you have ever imagined.
They are actually as simple as semi balanced directions of energies from pure positive condensed matter energy
to pure compressed space energy wit various combinations in between.
Roughly you can think of dimensions as being simply composed of energies with balanced directions
like; in-in, in-out, out in and out- out.
What keeps these dimensions separate from each other is that each dimension interacts with each other only partially
with a force they have in common or not at all.

For example if we live in the in-in dimension with 4 forces, one of which is gravity, our neighboring "dark matter" in-out dimension
may only share one force of gravity with us and
the rest of its forces do not interact with us at all.

We all have heard that our in-in matter is just compressed energy as expressed in E=mc2.
A LITTLE MASS MAKES A BIG BOOM. for example the mass of one penny has enough energy to lift a fully loaded aircraft carrier
a mile into the air, or most likely all over the place for miles.
In a similar way the out-out energy of space, a great opposite of mass, has enough energy
in a cubic centimeter to boil away one of our oceans.
But there is something holding back the incredible energy of space almost entirely as
if a great anti space energy almost equal to pure space leaves space in a condition that causes only a slow expansion
instead of space moving faster than light, as space actually does inside a black hole.

We have now just described our visible universe, dark matter and dark energy.
Now here comes a bigger mystery, as if explaining dark energy was nothing.

What has slowly changed to cause space to start accelerating? It didn't always expand faster and faster
according to measurements. It is easy to get tricked with blue sky thinking or false equivalencies so tread lightly.
What else is accelerating? Black hole formation is growing exponentially !? Did another dimension cancel out some
great forces as our dimension did when anti matter was canceled out by positive matter atoms
which was almost balanced BUT POSITIVE MATTER ATOMS OUTNUMBERED ANTI MATTER ATOMS BY ONE IN A billion. Entropy began very early in our universe AND WILL CONTINUE until there is a collapse of the fundamental energy required to hold our universe open.

THE CHALLLENGE BEFORE US IS THE DISCOVERY OF FORCES in OTHER DIMENSIONS THAT DO NOT INTERACT WITH OUR DIMENSION BUT may be CAPABLE OF VIRTUAL MAGIC IF EVER ARE THEY MASTERED. YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE SPACE TIME.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Ed T
Date: 08 Apr 15 - 06:22 AM

I found these comparisons of the potential number of black holes interesting.

Black hole comparisons 


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Apr 15 - 10:56 AM

Think of a region of space that contains a huge number of black hoes, er rather black holes. Compare light going through that region from a known distance to light from a known distance going through a region of space with relatively little mass and no black holes.

My bet is that the light through a black hole region will appear extra far away or extra slow (less red shift) since time in that region is going slow because of all the mass in that region. This could screw up findings by Dr. Perlmutter showing an acceleration of space expansion. I'm not saying his findings are wrong but I think the expansion rates he found could be different than what he thought.

Apart from that, think about growing so many more black holes more quickly in our universe that to balance the concentrated mass, space itself, must as a result, start expanding More! Yes you are right. That is kind of interesting.

If Perlmutter is off by some factor its OK, they won't take away his Nobel Prize at this point. You can't expect him to take into account energetic invisible dimensions he does not yet know about. These were my thoughts last year about black hole creation accelerating as the universe ages. This may be the entropy process of our universe. Once Space expands to an energy level where there amount of space vs. matter becomes so unbalanced there is the possibility that even protons will rip apart and a new energy level of the universe drops down to a new state. This kind of energy state collapse is inevitable and might happen trillions of years earlier than we thought.

But now there is this:


This year I have seen how Quantum Mechanics appear so perfectly computable because we made it that way knowing the start and end points of results. In other words Quantum theory relies on the possibility that time and space do not perfectly scale together down at Plank levels and that the Uncertainty Principle is just Bull Shit since the fuzziness of particles is due to the alternating vibration of space energy in dimensions that interacts with the small better.

In the simplest way I can say it, the split particle beam experiment behaves the way it does because of the particles interaction with the vibration of a space energy dimension. Particle counters merely bully there way over the sub space dimensions measuring just two positions instead of many waves. It is only an illusion that looking at the experiment changes it. It is not that a particle appears to be two places at once***IT IS ALWAYS TWO THINGS DUE TO vibrating SPACE ENERGY. I
IT IS A PARTICLE AND A WAVE AT ALL TIMES.

Quantum mechanics throws out the actual energies of space waaaay too conveniently to make it work out perfectly on paper.

There are only several ways these waves, along with their particle move and interact between our particles and the unseen space energy waves. These laws belong to the ways these dimensions interact NOT because Quantum Mechanic ascribes these but rather because that is the way these new physics dimension describe them.

Am I saying I have solved the split beam experiment mystery?
Damn fuckin straight I am. It's bugged me for 50 years.

It will be up to others to measure the correct energies and interaction of the space energy dimensions - no matter (pun intended) how twice removed from our dimension it is. You see it is hard to measure something that does not interact strongly to measure something that does not interact at all.

The segment of the universe we see and touch is like only seeing the leaves of the tree. We do not see the trunk or big branches of the trees "our" leaves belong to.

Now to go further than any hypothesis can allow me to go, will knowledge and controlled manipulation of these 'out out, out in, in out and out out prime' dimensions allow us to control the previously uncontrollable forces like time? I have no fricken idea.

All I know is that these invisible fluctuating energetic dimensions of space, currently in expansion are responsible for about 75% of the power of this universe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Fergie
Date: 10 Apr 15 - 01:22 PM

Can you suggest an experiment that might provide empirical evidence for your hypothesis?


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Apr 15 - 09:11 AM

An odd tale? 

""The source of puzzling radio wave bursts detected by two of the world's largest telescopes has been found, and the answer turns out to come from the research facilities' tea rooms, not extragalactic space."


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Apr 15 - 05:35 AM

one lump in the throat or two?


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Apr 15 - 06:06 AM

Ed T
Fergie

Ed, The important part of the link about black holes was not hoe massive they are, it was the comment about crushing mass beyond the Schartzchild radius. He was the first human to actually solve one if Einstein's equations. What is amazing is that crushing even a proton will cause it to go into a black hole state/ dimension / elementary space-particle.


Fergie That is trillion dollar question. What could we measure in the dimensions of space that do not interact with us?

Just lately I thought of measuring time as the shadow indicator o what space dimensions are doing. There is a time ring experiment that would be helpful but other experiments measuring the time shift in cosmic regions of the least mass may also bear fruit.

Remember time slows near mass and stops at infinite mass. Space and its variations of space time move very differently in a very relative way.

Look at the filaments that millions of galaxies stick to like glue.
for the most part that glue are black holes.
To me those filaments look like the grey matter of our brains which is meaningless since cosmology is seldom intuitive.

What may be intuitive is the thought experiment you can devise to look at systems working simultaneously.


What we are ignoring in physics today are the values of infinities being real and the 90% of the energetic dimensions without mass.

Look at Twistor space, it helps see the universe fro the perspective of a massless particle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Apr 15 - 06:43 AM

The biggest experiment to rip into the various space dimensions is the LHC. I do not recommend doing the high energy experiments on earth.

Before the first attempt the LHC was nearly destroyed by explosion. It is possible the explosion was sabotage BY THOSE WHO SHARE MY Concern.. we will know in a matter of days if the black hole Schrztchild radius crushing energies will make evaporating black holes or not .


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Apr 15 - 05:32 PM

More observations of Dark matter dimension:

Four different collisions of galaxies show that the involved dark matter seems to react with the gravity in two distinct ways. One way is with an extensive gravity field and one with only a quarter of the strength.

One answer is that the Higgs boson is configured differently in each dimension like assembling the shape of a boson with "Lego blocks" so it has the same shape but different colored blocks.

Our dimension has a Higgs boson that has a weakly interactive mass but a large field and as I speculate one more Higgs boson that has zero interaction. In the dark matter dimension (in-out) there are two bosons. One it shares with our dimension with zero interaction and another it shares with the next dimension over the (out in) and so on until finally reaching the out out dimension with its unique Higgs like boson.

Our dimension is small when compared with the sum total of all the dimensions. One reason for this was the elimination of almost exactly half of its mass was eliminated in the neutralization of matter in the great matter anti matter explosions early in our (on-in) dimensional universe.

In a similar war the extreme opposite dimension of out-out may have had a similar kind of huge and opposite polarity like its version of antimatter, antispace. This explosion could have resulted in an explosion of space which explains the theory of Inflation very well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 13 May 15 - 04:22 PM

As you have heard all matter is by far composed of space and not matter. There are comparisons like a particle is less than a pinhead in the area of several football fields of space. Even the shroud of space energy surrounding a single electron is huge and is nearly equal to the coefficient of all the energy in the universe , just in a small area. Every particle has this aspect of being counter balanced with space energy. In this way a black hole also acts like a fundamental particle.

If the super simple explanation of space dimensions above in the 'in out' description is any help it holds the answer to dark energy.
About 7 billion years ago the growth of the number of black holes reached a new equilibrium and is continuing to grow exponentially.

To balance out this concentration of matter in more black holes the amount of space is now growing and accelerating. We are told all the rules break down in a black hole. This is nonsense on its face. Of course it obeys its own rules. The rules are different than we thought because we did not think dimensionally. Inside the black hole are all the dimensions described above.

From our 'in in' perspective we see a black hole. From the center of our black hole and from the 'out out' perspective there is a white hole that expands all space along with it in equilibrium to the growing number of black holes.

There is geometrical math to demonstrate along Buckminster Fullerian lines that also describes this balanced fractal universe. I was hoping that this simplified language description of the theory of everything is somewhat understood by somebody.

Gravity for example is on a sliding scale from negative to positive as it exists in the series of dimensions.

As has been said before, is anybody out there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: olddude
Date: 13 May 15 - 04:32 PM

My theory is that sub atomic particles go into the equalibium state not through the interaction of other particles. They lose the undetermined state through the presence or absence of certain light properties. I just can't prove it mathematically.. Yet


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 15 - 12:51 AM

Leave it to you Old Dude to touch on the biggest most colossal
gargantuan MYSTERY of all in the realm of cosmology.

Above I proposed a fundamental explanation for dark energy.
But old dude hit on s more fundamental mystery.


Sub atomic and atomic particle measurements and their properties all
have one thing in common. They have remained unchanged. While they are best represented as binary
concepts and relationships, HOW IN THE FUCKING HELL DID THEY ALL GET
CODED WITH SELF CORRECTING CODE that allows them to remain stable for
billions of years??????????????????

There is only one only science other than computer code in nature for self correcting code and that is Genetics.

This is a place where a creator conundrum again enters through the exit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 May 15 - 06:21 AM

Nah. That just defeatist. Let's keep looking, and not invent something that might stop us from looking.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 15 - 04:14 PM

So self correcting code and particle structure self correction is a fundamental natural law that appears from the sub atomic to the macro genetic code within our chromosomes and DNA ?

Its kind of funny that self correcting code is what makes internet networks to function without constant corruption.

Some dare murmur matrix.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 15 - 04:16 PM

Who her has mastered an understanding of the split beam experiment?

Lets try a few obvious observations. When the beam of electrons is showing a many banded it is said that it is displaying the wave like property of a particle. It is also spread wider than the two narrow bands said to be its particle properties.

To display the wave function the bands are spread much wider on the screen showing that a electron has traveled farther than the 2 band formation. This means that the wave formation electrons traveled farther and took more time to do so than the two beams only.

The wave and particle signatures are separated in space/position and time.

When we 'take a snap shot' of the electrons we are freezing the time out of the equation by stopping time each time we take a measurement 'snap shot'.

We collapse the wave function when we measure / look at it.

At least this is the way I see it'

Now for something completely different.
How far can we go in the manipulation of matter? Until we know the balancing qualities of space and its constraints we will know less than half of the universe.

Still what we can do with matter is growing.

Recently we took a neutron and with magnets and filters separated it into two streams. One was the rotation of its sub atomic particles and the other was its force properties. We can now reduce matter to data and from data reconstruct matter, at least on a fundamental scale. Talk about building small! The possibilities are worth exploring.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 15 - 04:24 PM

Old Dude, Instead of math try using something called Adinkras.

It was given a rebirth by a cosmologist here in MD to show the relationships of matter with self correcting code. It may even connct the cosmos and genetics.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: GUEST,Olddude
Date: 16 Jun 15 - 01:50 PM

Don,
My assumption is that there is an order to the states. We just can't describe it yet. If indeed there is order via cause and effect , then it can be stated in terms of mathematics. That's the angle I am working on.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: GUEST,Olddude
Date: 16 Jun 15 - 02:39 PM

I like what you are doing with split beams. I working on a similar angle with the states


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: GUEST,Olddude
Date: 16 Jun 15 - 09:39 PM

The self correcting code is cool. I published a paper on it in 1984


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: GUEST,Olddude
Date: 16 Jun 15 - 09:51 PM

The cyclic redundancy checking algorithm is cool. I applied it to data structures but the same idea can be applied to particle states for data mapping. Math is math


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: GUEST,Olddude
Date: 16 Jun 15 - 10:01 PM

This whole idea of the recent observation of
Trancient excitons, in metal blows me away. Maybe I am on the right path with my pet project


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: GUEST,mark
Date: 16 Jun 15 - 10:05 PM

What is really sad is that we all cannot live another 3-400 years or so to see how it works out.
Given the rate of knowledge expansion, I expect that more definitive answers and explanations will be forthcoming over the next few centuries.
Like Spock said, "Fascinating." But, sigh, I will not likely around to see the final outcome.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: GUEST,Olddude
Date: 16 Jun 15 - 10:42 PM

http://journals.aps.org/rmp/abstract/10.1103/RevModPhys.70.1003

A really good paper don when you get time


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: akenaton
Date: 17 Jun 15 - 10:30 AM

Guest Mark, surely it is obvious that humanity will be extinct in a few hundred years, or life on Earth will be unsustainable.

If science tells us nothing else, it tells us this loud and clear...we are destroying ourselves and the planet...When will the last virus come along? Cant be long now.

The main reason for this disastrous state of affairs?....Science and technology!


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: GUEST,Olddude
Date: 17 Jun 15 - 01:59 PM

In regard to a black hole, the particle states cannot be determined in my opinion. Any attempt to create a dark matter is skewed by the very act of the experiment. Particles do behave to our laws of physics because of the interaction with each other only. The lack of light is my theory such as it is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Cosmology understanding in 50 minutes
From: GUEST,Olddude
Date: 17 Jun 15 - 02:52 PM

Meant to say do not follow our understanding of physics in a black hole


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