Subject: Lyr Add: THE TAX ON GIN (from Bodleian) From: Jim Dixon Date: 21 Apr 15 - 10:06 PM From a broadside at the Bodleian Library: THE TAX ON GIN 1. There's something new starts every day. Oh, dear! Oh, dear! Oh, dear! They tax the mutton, bread and beef, The bacon and the beer. They tax the poor man's sugar, His butter, cheese and tea. They tax the poor, and let the rich All go along Scot-free. CHORUS: They tax, tax, tax, tax. They never will give in. To starve the poor old women out, They've taxed the rum and gin. 2. A penny on each quartern! Oh, what a cursed shame! That wicked Billy Gladstone Is carrying on a game. Why don't he lay a tax upon His lady's crinoline? Why don't he tax the nobleman And double tax the wine? 3. "Oh, crikey!" said old Mary James. "It is a cursed sin To keep a poor old woman down And tax her drop of gin. A penny every quartern! I'm sure it can't be right. They'd better tax old women's teeth, And then they couldn't bite. 4. "They have rose it at the Feathers, And at the Hare and Hounds. They have rose it at the Magpie, The Thistle, and the Crown. They have rose it at the Lion, At the Bull and the Red Cow. They have rose it at the Harrow, And likewise at the Plough. 5. "They have rose it at the Nelson, The Bottle and the Cork. They have rose it at the Wellington And at the Duke of York. They have rose it at the Albert, The Marlborough and Lord Howe. They've rose it at the Prince of Wales, And at the Barley-Mow. 6. "Oh, taxing Billy Gladstone, We wish that you had got The butt end of a rifle Sticking in your throat. Why don't you tax our petticoats And make us look forlorn? Why don't you lay a tax upon Every little kid that's born? 7. "Why don't you tax our shirts, Our crinolines and caps? Why don't you tax the baked sheep's heads, The pickle eels and sprats? Why don't you tax the ringlets Round the ladies' pretty heads, And tax the china jerry Standing underneath the bed? 8. "Why don't you tax the frying pan? Why don't you tax the spoon? Why don't you tax the washing tub, The teapot and the broom? Why don't you tax the poker? Why don't you tax the knife, And double tax the rogue who lifts A finger to his wife? 9. "Oh, Billy, Billy Gladstone, May you in the river jump, And have nothing stronger Than the running at the pump. May you fall down like a donkey, And a ditch be tumbled in. What right had you at all to tax The poor old woman's gin? 10. "May you always have the toothache, All we poor old women say. May your wife rise up one morn And with her footman run away. May you never sleep for a fortnight, And your head be always queer, And be shot on Wimbledon Common By a rifle volunteer." |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,jim bainbridge Date: 20 Apr 15 - 05:39 AM What about Scottish singer Will Fyffe's 1920s song about rising taxes causing the price of whisky to soar to- 'TWELVE AND A TANNER A BOTTLE' (ie 12 shillings and sixpence- UK currency up to 1971) (about US 90 cents at current rates) It includes the lines- 'There's taxes on this, there's taxes on that We're staying thin, politicians get fat' ... which surely rings a bell even in 2015?' |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE EXCISEMAN From: Jim Dixon Date: 19 Apr 15 - 11:42 PM From The Pocket Encyclopedia of Scottish, English, and Irish Songs, Vol. 2 (Glasgow: J. Smith & Son, et al., 1816), page 33: THE EXCISEMAN. To a village that skirted the sea, An Exciseman one midsummer came, But prudence, between you and me, Forbids me to mention his name. Soon Michael he chanc'd to espy. A cask on his napper he bore, With six gallons of brandy, or nigh; And where is the head can bear more? Says the Exciseman: "Let's see your permit." Say's Mike: "'Tain't convenient to show it." T'other cried: "Sir, I'm not to be bit, For you've smuggl'd that stuff, and you know it. Your hogs to a fine market you've brought, For seeing you've paid no excise, As customs have settl'd you ought, I seizes your tub as my prize." "Now don't be so hard," said poor Mike. Th' Exciseman was deaf to complaint. "Why then, take it," said Mike, "if you like, For I've borne it till ready to faint." Four miles in hot sunshine they trudg'd, Till on them they'd scarce a dry rag. Th' Exciseman his labour ne'er grudg'd, But cheerfully carried the cag. To the custom-house in the next town, 'Twas yet some three furlongs or more, When says Michael: "Pray set your load down, For this here, sir, is my cottage door." T'other answer'd: "I thank you, friend, no; My burden, just yet, I shan't quit." Then, says Michael: "Before you do go, I'll get you to read my permit." "Your permit! Why not show it before?" "Because it came into my nob, By your watching for me on the shore, That your worship was wanting a job. Now, I'd need of a porter, d'ye see, For that load made my bones fit to crack; And so, sir, I thank you for me, And wish you a pleasant walk back." |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 13 Apr 15 - 08:35 PM To tack away our gold. Tax men are never moved by tears ... Nor tales that may be told. Tune: It Came Upon A Midnight Clear "Mad Magazine" parody circa 1963-64 Sincerely, Gargoyle Anyone betting on a "triple dip?" |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,Dave Illingworth Date: 13 Apr 15 - 06:06 AM Some fine songs mentioned in this link. "Sales Tax On The Women " has long been a favourite of mine. I have actually sung George Harrison's 1966 song "Taxman" in a simple folky/acoustic style - and it works. Simple direct lyrics. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,henryp Date: 12 Apr 15 - 06:46 AM Income tax was introduced into Great Britain by Prime Minister William Pitt the Younger in his budget of December 1798. Broadside Ballads Online from the Bodleian Collection Ballad Work - Roud Number: V12856 Titles: That income tax! A popular parody on "Those evening bells" That income tax - that income tax! How every clause my brain it racks How dear was that time to me, Ere first I heard of schedule B. Those untaxed joys are passed away And many a heart that then was gay, Is sleeping 'neath the turf in packs, And cares not for the Income Tax. And so 'twill be when I am gone, That candid Peel will still tax on, And other bards shall sadly ax, Why not repeal that Income tax. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 12 Apr 15 - 06:06 AM We ain't gonna pay no Inheritance Tax no more!!! |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Teribus Date: 12 Apr 15 - 06:02 AM GUEST,M if by "large micturations" you mean "Big Yellow" ones then yes. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Shimbo Darktree Date: 11 Apr 15 - 08:08 PM The following link will give you the words to one I perform in Oz from time to time. http://www.lyrics.com/theyre-taking-it-away-lyrics-ian-robb.html - Shimbo |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Jack Campin Date: 11 Apr 15 - 02:51 PM And from Sabine Baring-Gould's book Devonshire Characters and Strange Events: "The Scotch Yoke, and English Resentment" - illustrated by an ISIL-style response to the tax on cider: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/48507/48507-h/48507-h.htm#fig02 |
Subject: Lyr Add: A DIALOGUE BETWIXT AN EXCISEMAN AND DEATH From: Jack Campin Date: 11 Apr 15 - 02:32 PM A Dialogue betwixt an Excise-Man and Death (1640s?) Upon a time when Titan's steeds were driven |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,henryp Date: 11 Apr 15 - 05:59 AM The Hearth Tax of 1662, sometimes referred to as chimney money, was abolished in 1689, largely on the initiative of William III. England's Joy, For the Taking off of 'The Chimney-Money' Now happy times are coming on, let's pray that they may last; For now the Chimney Tax is gone, our chiefest care is past: We'll in our Country cottage sing, and push the Jugg about; We'll drink our health unto our King, till all our Liquor's out. William IV came to the throne in 1830 and the Beerhouse Act of the same year was known as Billy's Beer Bill. A Drop of Good Beer Come one and all, both great and small, With voices loud and clear, And let us sing 'Bless Billy the King Who bated the tax upon beer'. For more, see The Sound of History by Roy Palmer |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE RICH LADY OVER THE SEA From: GUEST,threelegsoman Date: 11 Apr 15 - 03:13 AM I was asked to sing The Rich Lady Over The Sea a short while ago and my version can be found at: The Rich Lady Over The Sea (Including lyrics and chords) The Rich Lady Over The Sea There was a rich lady lived over the sea, And she was an island queen, Her daughter lived off in the new country, With an ocean of water between. The old lady's pockets were filled with gold, Yet never contented was she, So she ordered her daughter to pay her a tax, Of thruppence a pound on the tea. Of thruppence a pound on the tea. Oh mother, dear mother, the daughter replied, I'll not do the thing that you ask, I'm willing to pay fair price on the tea, But never the thruppenny tax. You shall, cried the mother, and reddened with rage, For you're my own daughter, you see, And it's only proper that daughter should pay Her mother a tax on the tea. Her mother a tax on the tea. The tea was conveyed to her daughter's own door, All down by the oceanside, But the bouncing girl poured out ever pound On the dark and the boiling tide. And then she called out to the island queen, Oh mother, dear mother, called she, Your tea you may have when 'tis steeped enough, But never a tax from me! But never a tax from me! But never a tax from me! |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,henryp Date: 10 Apr 15 - 01:01 PM Of Honest Malt Liquor A catch, dating from 1733: "Of honest malt liquor let English boys sing, A pox take French claret, we'll drink no such thing. But London brewed staple, stout, Burton and Lincoln, They'll find us good matter to talk or to think on. To King, Lords and Commons toast a health ere we rise, Tho' we lower our pockets, yet we raise his Excise" From A Taste of Ale CD by Magpie Lane To accompany the book compiled by Roy Palmer |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Leadbelly Date: 10 Apr 15 - 07:17 AM Would like to recommend "Sales tax boogie" performed by Poor Howard Stith. Published on his cd "Lonesome road blues". |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,M Date: 10 Apr 15 - 06:25 AM Teribus: Do you mean the one about taxing large micturations? |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Teribus Date: 09 Apr 15 - 10:52 AM Didn't Joni Mitchell do one |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,henryp Date: 09 Apr 15 - 10:43 AM Bellowhead sing A-Begging I Will Go I've got no tax to pay and I heed no master's bell Who would be a king when a beggar does so well? And a-beggin' I will go And a-beggin' I will go The Song of the Lower Classes - sung by Martin Carthy The writer, Ernest Jones, stood unsuccessfully as a Chartist MP in 1847, was arrested in 1848 and was sentenced to two years of solitary confinement. From 1851 on, he started publishing a weekly magazine, Notes to the People, in which this song was published in March 1852. Down down we go, we are so low To the hell of the deep sunk mine But we gather the proudest gems that glow When the crown of the despot shines Whenever he lacks, upon our backs Fresh loads he deigns to lay We're far too low to vote the tax But not too low to pay |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST Date: 09 Apr 15 - 10:21 AM Bedroom Tax Song: You Cannae Have A Spare Room in a Pokey Cooncil Flat A song about the Bedroom Tax, written for the demos all over the UK on Saturday 30th March, 2013, the Glasgow one in particular. Set to the tune of 1960's folk song "The Jeely Piece Song", by Scottish singer-songwriter Adam McNaughtan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bik9299kA0c |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST Date: 09 Apr 15 - 06:11 AM Probably a few Boston Tea Party songs out there....Can't think of any off hand, but I'm sure some one can. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,Dave Date: 09 Apr 15 - 03:19 AM Although its not really folk, there is "Don't pay the poll tax" by The Exploited, and "Poll Tax song" by Michelle Shocked. There is also a Poll Tax song by John Andrew Hird, which is more folk in style. And Sandy Mathers' exellence "Repeal the Poll Tax" instrumental as has already been pointed out. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: cnd Date: 09 Apr 15 - 12:25 AM The song "Brown's Ferry Blues" (in particular the Doc Watson version) mentions revenue men taking his gin. In the CCR song "It Came Out of the Sky," they say the government taxes so much they're going to start a "mars tax," but whether CCR is folk or not is up to you (but it is one of their more country songs). To get a little off topic, any songs mentioning moonshine, revenue agents, g-men, t-men, etc could have tenuous connections to taxes, since moonshine was primarily made because of liquor taxes. You could also bring up songs involving hopping trains, like, say, Roger Miller's King of the Road. Just for the sake of examples sake, I'm not going to be too strict on what I define as "Folk." So you could include things like "The Ballad of Thunder Road" by Robert Mitchum, "White Lightning" by George Jones, "Run, Johnny, Run" by Jimmy Driftwood, "Good Ol' Mountain Dew" by Stringbean, NRPS's "Whiskey," PPL's "Kentucky Moonshine," "Do Wacka Do" by Roger Miller, and hundreds of others. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 08 Apr 15 - 10:02 PM Dear, Kind, Benevolent FOLK...... Please post your insight, (lyrics with link or attribution) INTO the immediate thread. Sincerely, Gargoyle As we ALL know.....the web is an ever changing river. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Ernest Date: 08 Apr 15 - 12:01 PM "The deil`s awa`wi`the exciseman" that Guest mentioned has lyrics written by Robert Burns: Lyrics and a recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In-i9yBQBiQ Another one would be "Taxes on the farmer feeds us all": http://www.songlyrics.com/ry-cooder/taxes-on-the-farmer-feeds-us-all-lyrics/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UjPbiYOybs |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: cnd Date: 08 Apr 15 - 11:21 AM I mean, she calls them folk songs, but whether they are or not is up to you. Wini Beatty released some anti-government folk songs on the obscure California label Key Records in the 60s. Here's a link to a playlist of them. Some of them have to do with taxes, but most of them are about big government. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4PzC8jx8QiY0Sj0mr1czKs81JPNwti7G |
Subject: Lyr Add: BUSTED (Harlan Howard) From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 08 Apr 15 - 10:32 AM BUSTED Johnny Cash (with The Carter Family) 1963 album Blood, Sweat and Tears. writer Harlan Howard 1962 III D A Well, my bills are all due and the baby needs shoes but I'm busted D Cotton is down to a quarter a pound and I'm busted I got a cow that's gone dry a hen that won't lay G A big stack of bills that get bigger each day A The county's gonna haul my belongings away D Cause I'm busted I called up my brother to ask for a loan cause I was busted Now I hate to beg like a dog for a bone but I was busted My brother said, "There ain't a thing I can do My wife and the kids are all down with the flu And I was just thinkin's 'bout callin' on you Cause I'm busted Now I'm no thief but a man can go wrong when he's busted The food that we canned last summer is gone and we're busted The fields are all bare and the cotton won't grow Me and my family's gotta pack up and go I'll make a livin', just where I don't know Cause I'm busted (muttering and fade "flat broke, jus plain old busted, ain't got a dime to my name, busted") Sincerely, Gargoyle Johnny Cash, with the Carter Family, reached #13 on Billboard's Hot Country Songs chart in 1963.[1] Ray Charles reached #4 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart in 1963.[2] This was from his album Ingredients in a Recipe for Soul. A live version with Willie Nelson was included in Charles' 2005 duets album Genius & Friends. Nazareth covered it on Expect No Mercy in 1977. John Conlee reached #6 on Billboard's Hot Country Singles chart in 1982.[3] Patty Loveless released a version in 2009 from her studio album Mountain Soul II. Chris LeDoux covered it on Used to Want to be a Cowboy in 1991. Green On Red covered it on The BBC Sessions released in 2007. Wanda Jackson covered it on her album The Party Ain't Over (2011). The Waldos covered it on their album Rent Party in 1994. Andre Williams covered it on his album Red Dirt in 1999. Tim O'Brien covered it on his album "Cornbread Nation" in 2005 |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Cool Beans Date: 08 Apr 15 - 10:06 AM "Sales Tax on the Women" by the Dixon Brothers (Dorsey and Howard). Later covered, more audibly, by the New Lost City Ramblers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK-aOkLNXS0 |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST Date: 08 Apr 15 - 09:49 AM Tune only, but . . . "The de'ils awa wi the exciseman" |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,# Date: 08 Apr 15 - 09:45 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kNwvIEQsg0 Chris de Burgh: Don't Pay the Ferryman |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,# Date: 08 Apr 15 - 09:42 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai3YggXpJos 1040 Blues by Robert Cray |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,# Date: 08 Apr 15 - 09:40 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO80MA7uAEk Ralph Willis: Income Tax Blues |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 08 Apr 15 - 09:02 AM Get You A Copper Kettle has the lines, "We aint paid no whiskey tax, Since 1792." |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,# Date: 08 Apr 15 - 08:36 AM http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/song-midis/We_Never_Had_Such_Taxes.htm |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,# Date: 08 Apr 15 - 08:33 AM Eight here with videos. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Jack Campin Date: 08 Apr 15 - 05:26 AM I have a lot of songs about the Annuity Tax in 19th century Edinburgh, links and historical discussion here: http://www.campin.me.uk/Embro/Webrelease/Embro/15kirk/15kirk.htm There were a few (not quite as good) songs about Thatcher's Poll Tax. Maybe the best to come out of that was an instrumental tune, Sandy Mathers' reel "Repeal the Poll Tax". How about "Raghupati Raghava Raja Ram"? See here: http://jamesmys.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/salt-march-march-towards-independence.html |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Thompson Date: 08 Apr 15 - 05:12 AM I've had posts vanish into the aether even posting as a non-guest. The aether is well-fed. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,DaveRo Date: 08 Apr 15 - 03:58 AM A guest can only post one link - presumably an anti-spam measure. Two links and the post vanishes into the aether. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,Gerry Date: 08 Apr 15 - 03:23 AM I just posted links to half-a-dozen tax songs, but my post didn't show up --- is there some limit on how many links I can put in a message? Anyway, I found the links by typing tax site:muscat.org into Google, and you can, too. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Ged Fox Date: 08 Apr 15 - 02:40 AM "The Tythe Pig" - "Good morning said the Parson; good morning, sir, to you; I'm come to take a sucking pig, a pig that is my due." |
Subject: Lyr Add: AFTER TAXES (from Johnny Cash) From: Larry The Radio Guy Date: 08 Apr 15 - 12:01 AM Don't know if you'd call it a 'folk song'......but there's a song by Billy Edd Wheeler and Jerry Leiber called "After Taxes" AFTER TAXES As recorded by Johnny Cash on "I Would Like to See You Again" (1978) I feel so good, come payday. I think of all the things I'm gonna buy when I pick up my pay, Don't you know, but then they hand me that little brown envelope. I peep inside; Lord, I lose all hope, 'Cause from those total wages earned, down to that net amount that's due, I feel the painful sense of loss between the two.
(Federal tax.) There goes that bracelet for her arm.
You can dream about a honeymoon for two.
Them are the facts,
(Federal tax.) There goes that bracelet for her arm. |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Bugsy Date: 07 Apr 15 - 10:44 PM Here are the complete lyrics to a Classic song written by Australian singer songwriter Bernard Carney about the GST (Goods and Services Tax) I'll sing you a song of the GST and the wonderful things it can do. CHeers Bugsy |
Subject: RE: Folk songs about taxes? From: Airymouse Date: 07 Apr 15 - 10:26 PM Revolutionary Tea is an obvious example, though it makes the mistake of thinking that the British were imposing a higher tax, when in fact they were cutting taxes in order to rescue The East India Company. The song is filled with interesting constructions: " I shan't do this thing that you ax" and "she packed up a budget of tea." |
Subject: Folk songs about taxes? From: GUEST,Abby the Spoon Lady Date: 07 Apr 15 - 10:13 PM I am looking for folk songs about taxes. Folk songs from the US primarily, but any and all really! :) please and thank you kindly Abby the Spoon Lady |
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