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Eurovision 2015

Tattie Bogle 23 May 15 - 06:52 PM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 23 May 15 - 07:48 PM
GUEST,Grishka 24 May 15 - 03:53 AM
Will Fly 24 May 15 - 04:30 AM
Dave the Gnome 24 May 15 - 04:50 AM
Backwoodsman 24 May 15 - 05:50 AM
melodeonboy 24 May 15 - 06:47 AM
Dave the Gnome 24 May 15 - 08:48 AM
Black belt caterpillar wrestler 24 May 15 - 04:17 PM
Teribus 25 May 15 - 07:46 AM
GUEST,Grishka 25 May 15 - 09:09 AM
Bonzo3legs 25 May 15 - 01:45 PM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 25 May 15 - 02:14 PM
Backwoodsman 25 May 15 - 03:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 23 May 15 - 06:52 PM

Well, I've been out all evening enjoying live music: Barbara Dickson concert in Linlithgow: fab stuff. Got home in time to see the last half hour of results come in, but then can't even see the figures on the screen, even with my best glasses on - so what's the point - unless you're Swedish....?


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 23 May 15 - 07:48 PM

Norway crashed my SKY+ box.... I'm still trying to fix it...😠


Luckily, watched most of the rest of the show
on the Humax freeview box...
until the recording buffer ran out during the big percussion band extravaganza.
and cut to the last part of part of the voting.

At least the aggravation of box failures prevented me falling asleep

Really surprised Austria didn't get a single vote,
I thought he had the strongest male voice in the contest
and the song nicked enough good bits from John Lennon songs
to sound like a pretty solid late 60s Beatles out-take...


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 24 May 15 - 03:53 AM

If I say that the voting system is utterly ridiculous, I am not telling news to anyone, but it must be mentioned from time to time.

The ESC's task of "building bridges" in the entertainment business has been accomplished long ago, to the extent that we actually miss the waterways. Thus, nationality becomes a playground of nationalism, where an entirely different sort of bridges would be needed badly.

At least the worst case of political boycotting by the juries has been averted, but why run such completely unnecessary risks?! The BBC just told us that the live audience booed at the performance "for Russia", and TV covered that up by canned applause. Wars have started for lesser incidents.

Flag wavers should stick to team sports with (more or less) objective rules, such as football or cricket. Individual athletes cannot reasonably be considered representatives of their political entity, all the less artists and entertainers.

Ethnic cultures would be well worth communicating (not competing against each other) - we saw very little of that.


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: Will Fly
Date: 24 May 15 - 04:30 AM

All bollocks, innit?

I was doing the sound desk and playing guitar at a pub charity bash last night with some great musicians, including Herbie Flowers.

The sight and sound of the whole pub going "Doo, do-doo, do-doo, do-do-der-do ooooh" - pretending to be the black girls - was hugely funny and great fun.

More fun than the telly.


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 May 15 - 04:50 AM

Damn you Sweden. Nowhere near as good as Abba!

Hootenanny. Lighten up for heavens sake. There are probably a lot of things I like that you don't and vice versa. Anything belongs on Mudcat, but if things like this upset you so much, maybe you don't?


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 24 May 15 - 05:50 AM

Nobody is forced to read or contribute to any thread.
Anyone who doesn't want to hear about the topic of this one is perfectly free to avoid it.
IMHO, YMMV.


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: melodeonboy
Date: 24 May 15 - 06:47 AM

zzzzzzzzzzz........


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 May 15 - 08:48 AM

What BWM said :-)


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 24 May 15 - 04:17 PM

Whatever scale the Albanian entry was singing in was not even tempered tuning; unfortunately the instruments were in it.


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: Teribus
Date: 25 May 15 - 07:46 AM

Eurovision the only international competition that no-one in their right mind wants to win.


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 25 May 15 - 09:09 AM

Eurovision is one of the many competitions which do not give their winners the reputation of being "the best" according to their (pretended) criteria. Thus, anyone who competes in order to win such a reputation, is not in her/his right mind.

Most entertainers want to sell their records, and for that purpose, ESC is perfect.

Commercial entertainment as such is inevitable, and therefore not to be criticized wholesale. (I have worked for it, like presumably other Mudcatters.) However, state-run TV should insist on honesty and culturally valid criteria. More importantly still, it should resist nationalist tendencies rather than fostering them actively.


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 May 15 - 01:45 PM

Perhaps Austria may have got some votes if that monstrous bearded thing from last year was left out!


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 May 15 - 02:14 PM

Conchita Wurst.. interestingly.. during the Green Room interviews
was looking less flamboyantly transgender than last year,

but an almost identical clone of Prince and his stage costumes
during his stubbly beardy phase...


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Subject: RE: Eurovision 2015
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 May 15 - 03:51 PM

Did anyone else think Fanny Sausage's face looked like it was done by CGI? My wife and I thought it did.


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