BS: How disturbed should I be?

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Jul 15 - 06:45 PM

SNOWBOY (imitating a Judge)
Officer Krupke, you're really a square;
This boy don't need a judge, he
Needs a analyst's care!
It's just his neurosis that oughta be curbed--
He's psychologically disturbed.

RIFF
I'm disturbed!

ALL
We're disturbed, we're disturbed,
We're the most disturbed,
Like we're psychologically disturbed.

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST,Musket smiling
Date: 29 Jul 15 - 03:22 AM

Sorry BWM, anal bleaching is all the rage in Gainsborough. Back when beauty salons offering laser hair removal had to be registered under healthcare laws and I was regulating healthcare, I had the novel experience of visiting a salon there and it was possibly the first time I saw anal bleaching on a price list.

£45 as I recall.

Makes you think...

Men could have it too, both on its own or as part of a "back, sack 'n crack."

This different universe... Some excellent song material in it all the same, and none of us have to walk far to find it.

(Odd. I thought Goofus made a sane, logical and relevant contribution to the thread. Must go and lie down.)

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 29 Jul 15 - 09:05 AM

GregF -- But it continues, you will recall [from memory] "Gee Officer Krupke, You've done it again; He don't need help, He needs a year in the pen..."

≈M≈

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Jul 15 - 04:25 AM

Well, judging from the posts, it doesn't sound like anyone should be, 'disturbed'.
Maybe you, (DMcG) ask the question, "How disturbed should I be?" because you're having a personal conflict, with what your son likes, what she wants to do, and the APPEARANCE, of how it reflects on YOUR 'political adherence' to your political ideological identity.

Be of good cheer, scrap the stupid political identity, and just LOVE your family......that is,if your brain-locked political correctness 'permits' you!! ...but then 'political correctness' has very little in common with down to earth reality.

GfS

P.S. First step to 'Sanity-Land'

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: Mr Red
Date: 30 Jul 15 - 04:44 AM

For what its worth I look around me and shake my head at some of the antics of youth. Mostly things I considered too iffy when I was their age. I am concerned for them, but not offended.
If they were close enough emotionally I might point out the inadvised nature of "whatever", but I interpret the OP as not involving close family.
On the plus side of being observant I see young lovers enjoying each other's company. And it triggers happy memories. & I am happy for those strangers too.

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Jul 15 - 04:48 AM

...an addendum:.....

If you ACCEPT her for WHO she IS, and LOVE her, maybe she will too, and the need to live up to YOUR expectations of her image, may fade away as well.

Besides, YOU'RE the elder....set an example!

Best Wishes on your journey....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: DMcG
Date: 30 Jul 15 - 08:25 AM

Thanks for all your comments. I think I need to clarify a few things for Sanity, though. I have no issues at all with
daughter in law or any of her family and as far as I can judge these things she and her family showed us love which I hope we have shown them in return



Nowhere did I say she or any of her family use that or similar products, but if they chose to I see that as their decision, not mine



All of which has nothing to do with whether I think companies are promoting racist attitudes to make more money.

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?in Mauritius
From: DMcG
Date: 30 Jul 15 - 08:45 AM

And by the way the only reason oh n mentioned my daughter in law was to explain how I came to see this product in a shop window
I could have just said "I was in Mauritius recently and saw... but thought it less pretentious to explain the circumstance



circumstances

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Jul 15 - 11:50 AM

Why is Guest 0904's post still standing?

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Jul 15 - 11:36 AM

Richard, to answer your questions, with a couple of examples:

Probably because, there has been an unusual amount of race tensions under his administration...possibly for political posturing and/or exploitation, to further promote a 'remedy'...(as in Machiavellian tactics) to 'change' the mood in the country, to further his veiled, strategy, which some people take as 'left wing'...but it is not. At every turn, the mega-corporations have NOT been reigned in, as the 'so-called left' would expect....but instead, they take the focus AWAY from a deeper, hidden agenda...

For instance, Obamacare, is NOT about covering everyone with healthcare, as portrayed, but funneling, by law, all the policies to a select few insurance corporations...which, by the way, are protected with a government 'bail-out' if the program doesn't work....but the 'insured' are NOT set up for a 'bail-out', or even an alternative healthcare solution, should the program fail. Now if you follow the political rhetoric of the 'so-called right', they are offering (read: threatening) a 'solution' by 'repeal and replace' Obamacare, with, (get this), a single payer solution!!....when before, they CLAIMED they opposed the notion!!...(Actually, they are working in tandem).....but the catch is, with that 'new' system, is going to come with a lot of 'other' VERY controlling contingencies, that if originally proposed, neither the 'left' or 'right' populous, would have ever wanted!

Another example, (which I've pointed out before), Jeffery Immelt. He is currently the chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the U.S.-based conglomerate General Electric. He was selected by GE's Board of Directors in 2000 to replace Jack Welch following his retirement. Previously, Immelt had headed up GE's Medical Systems division (now known as GE Healthcare) as its President and CEO....

In February 2009, Immelt was appointed as a member to the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board to provide the president and his administration with advice and counsel in fixing America's economic downturn.[14] When President Obama chose to put Jeffrey Immelt at the head of the Economic Advisory Board, he felt that Immelt had attributions in knowing what would help the GLOBAL economy. Obama has reported that Immelt has emerged as one of his top economic advisors in regards to trying to rebuild AMERICA'S economy.[15]

On January 21, 2011, President Obama announced Immelt's appointment as chairman of his outside panel of economic advisers, succeeding former Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker.[16] The New York Times reported that Obama's appointment of Immelt was "another strong signal that he intends to make the White House more business-friendly."[16] Immelt will retain his post at GE while becoming "chairman of the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, a newly named panel that President Obama is creating by executive order."[16] Despite this, in July 2011 Immelt's General Electric announced that it is in the process of relocating its X-ray division from Wisconsin to China.[17][18] Immelt had previously referred to China as GE's "second home market".[17]
Not only that, he produces all those dumb squirrely light-bulbs, in China.....while the Obama administration, put into affect, a LAW, that we in America MUST buy them...under the guise of 'environmental' reasons....after he, Immelt, was named 'Job Czar', to put AMERICANS back to work.....but they're all made in China!...not America!

The New York Times reported last month that General Electric earned $14.2 billion in international profits, including, $5.1 billion in the United States. Yet GE did not pay a dime in federal income taxes last year. Oddly, President Obama chose GE Chairman and chief executive Jeffrey Immelt to head his President's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

According to the Associated Press, Immelt's compensation package doubled to $15.2 million last year, while this year, GE is seeking major concessions from the unions that represent its shrinking American workforce. That makes Immelt the wrong guy for the job of jobs czar.

Or as former Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold wrote, "Someone like Immelt, who has helped his company evade taxes on its huge profits -- and is now looking to workers to take major pay cuts after his compensation was doubled -- should not lead the administration's effort to create jobs.".......and ship the jobs overseas!!

For more information, from all sides of the spectrum, type, "Jeff Immelt job czar" into your search engine and check out a host of articles....from 'right' to 'left', and even, phony 'middle of the road', news sources.(The link address couldn't fit into the 'blue clicky'....so just highlight,"Jeff Immelt job czar").

It's all theater!!

'BS: How disturbed should I be?'

...but when it's all said and done, I just hope they like good music...because I'm NOT a political animal.
..and as I've said repeatedly, "I'm NOT with the party...I'm with the band!"

(..and this IS supposed to be a MUSICIAN'S forum.....isn't it????)


GfS

P.S. Source: en.Wiki (on top part of post), CBS, & Real Clear politics, plus, as I said, a host of other sites...take your pick...they all agree.

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST,Musket grinning
Date: 31 Jul 15 - 11:53 AM

I bet you didn't expect an answer like that eh Bridge?

I don't know if Goofus has a beard but he just might, given that the alternative is looking at himself in the mirror each day. Still, it explains why US politics is beyond our grasp...

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Jul 15 - 12:13 PM

..and beyond most people's.

..just follow the money, which is NOT an end to itself...but a tool to gain the power. The rest is just a nonsensical distraction.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: DMcG
Date: 31 Jul 15 - 12:36 PM

Are you sure you posted that where you intended, Sanity? The relationship to anything else in the thread seems at best tenuous...

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Jul 15 - 01:43 PM

I gave up after 'Richard, to answ' when I realised it was goofus. No reason to purposely make your eyes bleed.

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: Greg F.
Date: 31 Jul 15 - 06:55 PM

Eyes? Trying to make sense out of Goofus will make your BRAIN bleed.

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 15 - 07:29 PM

And what, pray tell, does the subject of this thread have to do with the Affordable Care Act (characterized by its opponents as "Obamacare")?

Clue to the clueless: Yes, this is a musician's forum, but the purpose of the BS section is to give space to those musicians who might wish to discuss other subjects. And, yes, GoofuS, I can tell you are a musician by the way you whistle through your nether orifice.

Back under the bridge!!

Billy Goat Gruff

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Aug 15 - 01:40 AM

Oh No!...The instigators are 'disturbed'!

IF you read Richard's post, and understood it, you'd know EXACTLY the relevance. My answer was straight ahead, in answering his question, relating to 'Guest's' comment: 'Why is Guest 0904's post still standing?'

So what's the game now?? Pretending to play dumb, and blaming it on ME???? ....

...."From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 15 - 09:04 PM

Hussein Obama has traind you well, ducklings. focus on skin color. Focus on skin color."

You guys blame any, and everybody who comments, contrary to the propagandized 'party line', as a 'hater', 'bigot', blah blah blah, and etc. etc., when hate and bigotry have NOTHING whatsoever to do with where they are coming from!...no wonder your brains bleed! You can't fathom ANY reasoning passed your predisposed brainwashing...left over from the '60's, when it actually worked! Nobody is buying that crap anymore!..except you guys.
Your 'party line' IS the distraction....and so is the 'so-called right's party line'......meanwhile, while you beat your drums to it, the REAL hidden agenda marches on.
Some of you are just UN-witting dupes..and just don't get it...others are just promoters of the 'distractions'....as in 'suicidal and proud of it!!'

The average person, on the street isn't buying your much promoted crap, any longer, and you guys don't seem to believe that that is possible...thereby marginalizing yourselves.....except to other die-hard dupes......

...sorta like DMcG's concerns that his daughter-in-law is tarnishing his political self image, by wanting to lighten her skin.

Think about it...but don't hurt yourselves!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Aug 15 - 02:01 AM

...and the post, prior to my last one, was just DF beating his chest again....

"The voice of deception has UN-even rhythms!
Listen to the man who's afraid
The man who's afraid has all sorts of answers,
To the problems inside his own head!..." Biff Rose, 1968..(old hat).

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Aug 15 - 02:01 AM

sorta like DMcG's concerns that his daughter-in-law is tarnishing his political self image, by wanting to lighten her skin.


Oh dear, Sanity, you really don't read the threads do you? I have made it very clear that
(a) my daughter in law does not, as far as I can tell, lighten her skin

(b) If she did, I would see it as her decision and it would not bother me.

(c) I only mentioned her at all to explain how I came to see the product.

Earlier you suggested I had a closed mind. Well, we all have to some extent, and it can be very hard to see our own blinkers. But I reckon I have had some indirect evidence in the last week that I am not too bad.   My daughter is working in Thailand and in the village everyone has nicknames. After around two months they have finally settled on hers, which translates to "Woman with an open mind and open arms". I think that is brilliant and I'd be proud to have the male version of that as my epitaph. She has fully earned it in my opinion. But I feel I am entitled to a smidgen of credit because we have always encouraged those attributes.

You claim I have a closed min

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Aug 15 - 02:11 AM

DmcG, You are correct....she doesn't use it herself....I think...but 'your concerns' are really quite petty

"We went out to a shopping mall with some of them and amongst the beauty products I noticed a "Skin Whitening Facial Kit" and it left me with very conflicted feelings. On the one hand, it is their culture, not mine; and anyway there are plenty of attitudes to beauty in Europe and the US that I dislike. On the other, it reminds me very strongly of some of the attitudes directed the US civil rights movement fought long and hard to get rid of."

"very conflicted feelings'???????
Why???

"On the other, it reminds me very strongly of some of the attitudes directed the US civil rights movement fought long and hard to get rid of."

...and all that, concerning you, I already covered....the part that the dupes are all pissy about, was my response to Richard Bridge's question regarding 'Guest's' post. OK??

Now get over it....
I did!


GfS

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Aug 15 - 02:22 AM

"very conflicted feelings'???????
Why???

Because that is what having an open mind means. When you see something that the culture accepts but reminds you of things other cultures have rejected you think about them.

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Aug 15 - 02:48 AM

Then just keep your 'open mind'.....you'll be less disturbed.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 15 - 07:01 AM

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/24/dark-skin-india-prejudice-whitening

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Aug 15 - 07:09 AM

DmG......what precisely would Azizi's side be?....Seems to me that some dark skinned people use these products because they want to look "less dark"....for whatever reason, possibly fashion.

Personally I think it has more to do with personality problems than anything else, and the producers are preying upon human insecurity.

Subject: RE: BS: How disturbed should I be?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 01 Aug 15 - 08:56 AM

I agree with the "Not your circus" comment from guest. I despise the whole of the beauty industry and the "Because you think you're worthless" message it sends to all and sundry. However, this is my personal take and to press my opinion on anyone else regardelss of colour or culture is wrong. No one is in the same place regards self-esteem and concept of beauty.