BS: Dreams or Mares

Subject: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Nov 15 - 06:55 PM

I haven't had a proper nightmare in years, partly because I learnt some years back that when a dream began to be disturbing to backtrack and take the dream in a different, not scary direction.

However. This morning, if I had not awakened when I did, a dream could have become scary.

In the dream, I am entering a room where there are four or five other people. To my left I see a man standing against the wall. I pass by- and then his -I assume it was his - hand shoots out and grabs me by the scruff of my jacket and he says "I guarantee..."

I awoke.

"Guarantee"? What's that about?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Nov 15 - 07:00 PM

That's what is scary... there are no guarantees...

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Nov 15 - 07:10 PM

I deliberately eat cheese last thing in order to dream. OK, I'm lying. I just like eating cheese. :-). I dream all night and every night and I love it. I don't get real nightmares but I occasionally have dreams that could be regarded as bureaucratic nightmares. Kafkaesque, indeed. They sometimes get so involved that the only solution is to get up, go for a wee, shake meself down and get back in bed. I love it all!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Paul Burke
Date: 26 Nov 15 - 07:28 PM

I dreamt I was at a house party. The entire back yard was occupied by a big blue tent, that I understood was one friend's family's. My wife was sleeping in a tent in the kitchen with some other friends. I had no place to sleep and it was cold, and I needed a piss, but couldn't find a toilet. A quad motorbike took me up a muddy escalator, with my teenage daughter (she's nearly 30 NOW, to a railway station, where I realised I'd forgotten my shoes... and not just shoes.., pants, everything else... everyone else had disappeared, and then the big high wall....

I guarantee...

that you remember this possibly matters, perhaps historically (memory of betrayal) or worry about something you haven't stitched up with someone dodgy. Or it could be just a reaction to advertising, they try to grab you by the neck with guarantees. Or maybe you're just crazy.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Nov 15 - 07:44 PM

Oh God. Yes, I get occasional dreams when I'm out in public naked from the waist down. Oddly, I never seem to get arrested. I forgot about those... They could hark back to the time when I had to have a barium enema and I had to wear one of those hospital gowns that tie round the back. The bloody thing was obviously intended for a sylph, as not only was it too short but it didn't go all the way round the back either. The arse that was to be under investigation was all too plainly on public display whenever I had to get up from a seat in the waiting room. I'll swear that my psyche was permanently ruined by that terrible episode...

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Nov 15 - 08:30 PM

I have entire classes of frustrating dreams... from losing my car by having it towed, to being unable to find a clean, working toilet in big house, to going thru a cafeteria line that is closed & out of food, to getting lost on strange country roads..... and several more.

I assume daily stresses are played out in dreams in many forms that I have actually experienced....

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Nov 15 - 09:19 PM

There are dreams and then there are dreams. The latter are the worst; I know people who relive terrible things in their dreams. Combat veterans, cops, fire fighters, emergency room workers...those who see the really horrible things that happen. Ebbie has it right, there are techniques to control dreaming and she uses one of them. Another is to recognize that it is a dream and switch it off. Both techniques can be learned.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Nov 15 - 09:56 PM

But Rap, when I woke, I could still feel the bunched up jacket at my neck! I even felt back there- and there was nothing there. Brrrrrr

Thanks for the laughs. Like you, Steve Shaw, I love my dreams. I look forward to them every night.

Isn't it funny about nakedness in dreams? No one has ever called me on it; they don't seem to notice. I am the one who is looking for clothes. I just realized that I have never seen anyone else in my dreams who is naked. Why is that??

One of the worst kinds of dreams that I experience is when I suddenly realize that I have forgotten to feed or care for a baby left in my care, and actually, I'm not sure I know where it is. Sometimes it's not a baby but a puppy or a whole bunch of little ones. I know they are starving but I don't know where to look for them. I don't know- does that qualify as a nightmare?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Amos
Date: 26 Nov 15 - 10:30 PM

Dreams can impinge as experience just as forcefully as "real" incidents do, if more briefly. Lucid dreaming--the art of knowing you are dreaming and steering or even directing the experience--is a valuable skill both in sleep's dreaming hours and waking's. That's my story, anyway.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 03:44 AM

I often dream I am looking for a toilet - either I can't find one, or there is a long queue, or the toilet is in full view of the public, or when I get in there, there is no toilet, just an empty cubicle. These are, of course, all reasons to hold back and not do what my body wants to do. My body is 'dreaming up' excuses to prevent me from wetting the bed until I wake up and head for the bathroom.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Paul Burke
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 05:32 AM

"Another is to recognize that it is a dream and switch it off"

Many would like to do that with waking life. But recognising that it's a dream? I had a dream about that once; I was talking to someone at a party, in a (shared, student) house I knew we had just moved into (in waking life not having been a student for 40 years), with a full memory of the old one and where it was. And we were talking about dreams, and I said that you can tell it's a dream because it has no history, whereas in waking life we have a knowledge of continuity. Upon which I woke up (or did I?)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Mr Red
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 12:46 PM

If you woke up, you had control of the dream.
As far as I can tell, and I do have an interest in these things, an uncomfortable dream is driven by a problem that exists in your life.

If an uncomfortable dream returns - you haven't solved the problem. The best interpreter of your dreams is yourself. But it sounds like a person is implicated and maybe a threat or some appliance is due for repair, maybe it has made funny noises and you subconsciously registered the fact. Possibly there is potential for damage or injury in the scenario.

I had a series of uncomfortable dreams about a year ago, they disappeared when I came to the accommodation with the situation which resolved itself without any effort applied! Dreams are harmonious now.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 12:53 PM

I rarely remember my dreams, and in the morning I don't feel like I've spent the night dreaming. But now that the dogs spend the night in the house, every so often one of them startles me with a noise and I wake, realizing I was in the middle of a dream.

The only times I remember having bad dreams is when I am coming down with a cold or flu - it is essentially one of the early symptoms of whatever the virus is that is taking hold.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 02:58 PM

"...sounds like a person is implicated and maybe a threat or some appliance is due for repair, maybe it has made funny noises..."

Funny you should say that, Mr. Red. My refrigerator has been making moaning noises for the last month. (!)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 08:37 PM

Every now and then my dream turns real, as I half wake and proceed to try to sort out something I've been dreaming of.

Like the other day I charged downstairs and started putting out stuff on the floor to stop tge paint that had been spilled dripping through to the living room and wrecked ng the carpet. Then my wife told me I was dreaming. I realised that no paint had been spilled, and we haven't got a carpet in that room. Or I'll turn the furniture upside down looking for something I've mislaid - only to wake and realise it didn't exist in the first place.

I wouldn't much want to live with me.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 10:24 PM

"I wouldn't much want to live with me." MGoH

Great line!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams or Mares
From: Mr Red
Date: 28 Nov 15 - 11:19 AM

My refrigerator has been making moaning noises for the last month.

Forewarned is forearmed. Get the telephone number of the repair man. Is it under guarantee/warrantee?

I live with me, I am so untidy. But if you can find it, it is tidy!