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Subject: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: DonMeixner Date: 05 Dec 99 - 11:40 PM I have a boy who is 17 and he wants an electric guitar for Christmas. Any thing thats good and affordable? I would like a solid body probably. He thinks he wants to be an industrial power head. I feel that I've failed but at least its sorta musical. Who knew? Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: MK Date: 06 Dec 99 - 12:01 AM Hi Don. It sounds like you have a budding rocker on your hands. Congratulations! (hehehe) (I have a 14 year old nephew who is the same.) Budget is the thing.
For something decent, without totally breaking the bank...consider a used re-issue Fender Strat (maple neck)(preferably American made but if need be, Mexican over Japanese -has to do with the neck design.) Everything I've mentioned should be attainable within the range of $500 - $850.00 U.S. (Hope this isn't too rich for your blood.) If he's really serious about this, then a decent instrument will encourage him to practise and play more. If it's just a fad and potentially a passing thing, a cheaper knockoff of something will do... My 2 cents anyway. PS......Be thankful he's into guitar. He could have asked for a drum set! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: catspaw49 Date: 06 Dec 99 - 12:12 AM Hi Don.....You might also want to check the blue clicky at the end of this. Look at the "Affinity" series and then check out down at the bottom of the page for a package deal....Decent stuff. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: Rick Fielding Date: 06 Dec 99 - 01:02 AM Buy him a copy of "Clapton Unplugged" and hope for the best! Rick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: corrie Date: 06 Dec 99 - 02:53 AM Hunt up a Westone. They come in several interesting shapes and colors, and you should find them used for a couple of hundred (heck, ten years ago I sold them new for under $300). They play well enough for semi-pro gigs, certainly garage bands, and can be set up with nice low action. The kicker for me is that they have both humbuckers and single-coil pickups, with cross-phase and tap controls. What that means is that the knobs don't just adjust the volume and tone, they change the timbre of the sound. The guitar can imitate a thin country-style Telecaster sound, a screaming Strat, a big fat Gibson, and just about everything in between. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: Neil Lowe Date: 06 Dec 99 - 08:31 AM .....don't know anything about the other guitars mentioned but Michael K's advice sounds pretty good to me...I just recently purchased my first electric, an Epiphone GS-400 Custom (Epiphone's version of the Gibson SG) and I'm pretty happy with it... paid $420 new....it's cheap enough to be affordable and expensive enough to have some quality to it....it'll be a long time before I outgrow it. I suppose anything with decent playability would be a good first guitar. If you think he's serious you naturally wouldn't want to start him off on something with action an inch and a half off the neck, or a guitar that would play in tune in an E chord, but not in A. That would be discouraging. Good luck, Neil |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: JedMarum Date: 06 Dec 99 - 09:18 AM The music stores a full of their "Christmas" guitars. You will find the good stores will carry a lot of very cheap - pretty good electrics. Ask your local guitar store for help. Talk to the guys, and decide for yourself. There are some especially ood, especially cheap Fender copies - Stratocaster models. I think they're actually made by Fender, or under their 'license' .... also, some good names of lower proced instruments (and these are not toys); Charvel, Kramer, Jackson, Ibanez. Some of the manufacturers have higher priced offerings, but their low end guitars are pretty good. If i were you, I'd look seriously at the Fender copies, I wish I could remember their name, but your guitar store people will know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: Guy Wolff Date: 06 Dec 99 - 10:31 AM Hi , I have two boys who I have gone through this with ...The oldest is now playing a Paul Reed Smith coustum we got for around $1500.00 as a guitar someone ordered and then did not come get ..It was down from $2400.00 ...{With a Marshall Stack the nezt year} It's perfect for him AFTER going through a ton of instroments..I realey liked the cheapest Korean {I think} vertion of the Fender family... The Telly has a great sound but they also have a great low price Strat...The point is you also have to get a little amp with head phones...{very importamnt for family sanity}.. The littlest fender practice anp can be had for around $90.00 ,the teli or strat for around $250.00 with cords and head phones ther best you can do is anruond $400.00 for everything.{ I would try Musician's FReind" probably one line at that}..Sorry the guitar will be worth $100.00 the second you by it...For the abuse Ive seen them get I would rather take the financial hit then suffer waching a great instroment get trashed.....and at that age they do...When are you buying him his own Pa[$2,000.00] with good mikes and that van for getting to his gigs{$25,000.00} and quiting your job so you can drive him to Seattle or Boston or Atlanta.....<<>>> Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here...All the best Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: Frankie Date: 06 Dec 99 - 09:05 PM If you go the route of a non-American made Fender you might consider one from Mexico as opposed to a Korean- made one as the Mexican instrument actually has Fender on the headstock and the Koreans display Squier up there. This could make a difference when selling or trading up. When I sold a Mexican-made strat I got everything back I paid for it ($250). I now play a Mexican-made Tele' that I bought for $320. A friend I jam with was playing one and it sounded so good and played so well, I sold off my high-end Heritage thinline and ran out and got one.I believe these instruments, the Telecaster and Stratocaster, are designated by Fender as Standards. If you're looking for something used, Elderly Instruments plublishes a monthtly used instrument list which carries a wide variety of instruments at reasonable prices and they have a liberal trial policy. Actually, I think their entire used inventory is online at elderly.com. Good luck, Frankie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: catspaw49 Date: 06 Dec 99 - 09:33 PM You may have a point Frankie, but the Squires are very nice electrics and you may not have noticed that my link in the previous post was to Elderly. The price of the "Strat-Pak" of $283.20 is hard to beat; check it out. And Don's an incredibly cheap SOB. I mean the guy is building a hurdy-gurdy out of a cello fer chrissakes. BTW, ALL of the Elderly used and new inventory is on-line and most with photos. I used to get the monthly, but the on-line is updated weekly. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: Guy Wolff Date: 06 Dec 99 - 10:25 PM Cat I loved that little Squire...Great for slide work ...The important thing to remember is what these young gentlmen do to these instroments...It's not always a pritty sight...Usualy they are used by the whole sophmore class {and what the canoe club does with them should not be mentioned here}.. The trade in on a Mexican is a good point as long as you dont let the kids chew on it first for to long...Hungry and growing Boys get protein ware they can...All the best Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: Mudjack Date: 06 Dec 99 - 10:33 PM He should start with an acoustical guitar. Then when he converts to the electric, he will have strong hands and fingers and find the electric a lot easier. But the best part will be he might discover that the acoustic sounds are real and not imitation or relying on effects and amplifiers. Don't forget to remind him that he has to create somekind of repulsive attitude to really make it. The successful rock guitarist seems to excell with attitude. Good luck.... Mudjack |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: DonMeixner Date: 06 Dec 99 - 11:19 PM Thanks everyone, I appreciate the input. Guy, Gentleman they ain't. Jack, I agrre with you, I have no end of good accoustics for them to play and I have an Ovation too. But Greg is set on power chords, slammin', jammin', and double whammin'. I think I. leaning towards the Fenders, they certainly have the look and appearance can be important to a 17 year old. I like the Telecaster rather than the Strat myself. I find the pots to be poorly located for my playing style. I have found a 1950s Les Paul Jr, Melody Maker maybe, but that one I'll get for me. Being the cheap ass SOB that Spaw claims me to be I'll turn in my deposit on th D'Angelico just buy a Hamer. Don
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: WartHogg Date: 06 Dec 99 - 11:58 PM Hi there! I'm nu here but I think I can back up some of the wisdom sent so far. A Fender Strat is you best all around choice. The advice about Mexican over Korean is true. With a Strat your boy'll get every sound help wants to torture you and himself with. Whether he wants thrashy metal or belltone blues he will have it. That's why Hendrix used a strat-versatility! The advice about an amp with headphones is golden. As for amps, I like old tube amps, you can get more for your money if you buy used but maybe (with much guidance from a FEW different stores) he can pick his own amp. Happy Hunting, WartHogg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: Frankie Date: 07 Dec 99 - 04:42 PM Don, for what it's worth my first eletric was a Squier (I think that's the way they spell it) strat. I bought it used from a store and it seemed just fine at first but within a year the neck had warped to the point that it was unplayable and no amount of shimming or fiddling with the truss rod could make it right. I traded it back to the same shop and took a bit of a loss on it. Of course this was 15-odd years ago (odd years indeed) and it could a have been an isolated incident, quality control could have improved and Fender may even have a new manufacturer over there,I don't know, but if you go with the Korean deal you might be wise to see if you can find some product reviews and see what kind of warranty it carries. Regards, Frankie (I'm not busting your balls here CatP, I just thought I should share this.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: DonMeixner Date: 07 Dec 99 - 05:00 PM Frankie, Nothing there to bust, I hear he was neutered. Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: Bert Date: 07 Dec 99 - 05:10 PM caused by too much shimming and fiddling with his truss rod. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: Frankie Date: 07 Dec 99 - 05:58 PM are you saying the luthier slipped when filing his nut? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Reccomend an 'Lectric Guitar for beginne From: Terry Allan Hall Date: 07 Dec 99 - 06:45 PM Get him a Danolectro re-issue...most "bang-for-the-buck" out there...4 of my music students have 'em...pretty nice, too!...Around $200 |
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