Desperate-ID tune from My Fairy Garden toy ad

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 06:04 PM

A pikelet is thinner and flatter. I like crumpets, they're much thicker. (greedy)

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 05:50 PM

They're not bloody crumpets, they're pikelets. A bit of crumpet is something else! Dr White's, no I'm not going there.

Nowadays I smother my toasted pikelets (Warburtons, okay) in Olivio, cover with beans, and toast on blue cheese.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 05:36 PM

I know Michael. And they're full of sugar. Now I admit my sin is dairy fat, but neither crumpets nor muffins have sugar in them. I believe sugar is far worse for you than dairy, so really I am a very good girl.(God please note that too.)

I honestly can't find much similarity between this tune and The Cuckoo's Nest. My husband is giving me fed-up looks, so I'd better stop playing it over and over on my laptop.

The words 'all around the town' seem to be connected with the song in my mind. A clue perhaps?

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,"Top of the Muffin to You!,"
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 05:28 PM

muffins are more bread then cake

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 04:59 PM

Talking about muffins -- why do those silly Americans call cupcakes "muffins", so that they are reduced to calling what are really muffins "English muffins"? And such is their pernicious power, dashit-all!, that these perverse usages are even catching on over here!

Chunter·chunter·bloodybloody·chunter..................

And I still say it's an original tune that sounds a bit like The Cuckoo's Nest just as Stanton Drew sounds a bit like Up In The Gallery.

Michael hath spoken --- ergo It Is So

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 04:39 PM

Ugh no, not Lurpak. As you say, lard. Kerrygold is my favourite. I like a wee bit of salt in it for flavour.

I shall go to my grave never knowing what that song was...

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 04:24 PM

By the way, I toast my crumpet on the bottom before I turn it over.

I did try to phrase that carefully. It doesn't read too well, does it. Shut up if you're reading this, Musket.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 04:10 PM

That was it, Dr White's. But that was the only brand Billy Pendlebury stocked, so she didn't have to specify. But was Dr White a woman...

If you lived in Cornwall you could avail yourself of Trewithen Farm's unsalted butter. I'll contemplate no other brand. My mum swears by Lurpak. Lard.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 03:51 PM

I get through tons of REAL butter in a week. Irish butter. Any make of crumpet is fine by me. I also adore muffins (not those spongey cakey things, I mean proper muffins as sold by the muffin man) God, please take note. And I hope He also notes that I like Border Morris dancing best.


Look, concentrate everyone. Never mind crumpets. That song, that song...


Steve, I was sent for 'Dr White's' by my mother. I used to wonder who he might be...

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: Mo the caller
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 03:10 PM

No Warburton's crumpets are too thick - gooey in the middle. Thin crumpets are best.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 03:04 PM

I wish to recommend in the strongest possible terms Waitrose crumpets made with buttermilk. Beware, they have cheaper ones. The Warburtons are a reasonable substitute. And butter. None of that low-fat rubbish or that I-Can't-Believe-That-Sane-People-Might-Even-Remotely-Think-That-This-Grease-Is-Butter. When I were a little lad in t'fifties oop north, me mum'd send me off to Billy Pendlebury's shop for a Warburton's sliced, a Warburton's Toastie and a "packet of towels." I never did work out how they got great big towels into those little packets or why I never saw new towels hanging up in th'ouse...

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Danoota
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 02:56 PM

I have very thinly sliced Norwegian Gjetost melted on my Warbs.

PS : I think that fairy garden tune might be related to this too; distantly, 2nd cousin twice removed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQTq88Ie5sU

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 02:52 PM

Hahahaha Steve! I always say when/if I get to heaven, there'll be a large plate of crumpets ready-buttered and a LOT of Old Speckled Hen ale to drink. And all the angels will be Morris dancing.

Come on people, surely someone recognises this darned tune?

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 02:35 PM

That tune on the Warburton's Crumpets ad, it sounds very much like 'Bread of Heaven' to me.

I'll get me coat!

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 02:14 PM

I'm so pleased other people love crumpets too. I bet your biography would be very interesting, Michael!
(thread drift)

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 01:29 PM

My darling Emma brings me two buttered Warburton crumpets with butter & jam for brekkie every morning before she goes off to work. Great start to the day.

I just know how much you have all been longing to know that. Especially all those so busy making notes for my biography!

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Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 12:50 PM

Yes! Warburton's indeed Danoota! Loaded with real butter. I don't listen to all the cholesterol warnings.

Had my nap, but as Morris-ey has found, the tune is still playing in my head.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Danoota
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 12:02 PM

Warburton's crumpets I trust? I'm having 'em with Hopping Hare...

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Morris-ey
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 12:01 PM

The tune does sound familiar; the big problem for me is, having heard the words, getting the damn thing out of my head.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 10:19 AM

Tunes can often fortuitously resemble one another. I once pointed out to Peter Bellamy that 'I Once Lived In Service' in his The Transports was much like 'The Fair Maid On The Shore'. "People have said that to me," he said, "but I don't know 'The Fair Maid'. How does it go?" I sang him a bit. "Well," he said," maybe I did hear it once and remembered it subconsciously." But I think it was more likely coincidence.

Another similarity is Jim Parker's tune for 'The Dancers of Stanton Drew', with one of Marie Lloyd's first ever songs, way back in the 1880s, 'The Boy I Love Is Up In The Gallery' by George Ware. Again, I am sure it was just coincidence rather than any plagiarism, conscious or unconscious.

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Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: Will Fly
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 10:04 AM

Eliza, I advise two bottles of Speckled Hen and one crumpet - that'll probably get everything out of your head! :-)

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 09:51 AM

Thank you all for your comments. I'm going to have a nice bottle of Old Speckled Hen, and two buttered crumpets followed by a nice nap, and hope the blessed thing will have gone out of my head by this evening.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: leeneia
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 09:39 AM

I agree with Steve. It's likely that somebody composed it for the ad. At least, I've heard a good many tunes, and I've never heard that one.

For me, the music has two features. The first is the notes for "My Fairy Garden." They are a distinctive little run.

high D/ B A F#-E /low D

I think that recognizing an original tune for this would hinge on locating that little run.

But the run sounds modern to me. After that the tune settles into a comfy, minor diddle-diddle. Very conventional.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 08:57 AM

Sorry, Eliza.
It does have a slight resemblance to Cuckoo's Nest, but it sounds to me, because it's so simple, like a tune somebody just made up. I doubt very much that it is consciously based on an existing tune.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 08:11 AM

Like my father used to say.."It's the same, only different.."

I think they might have just messed with it to suit their purposes....................and people DO write tunes that are similar to other tunes now & then without actually knowing it.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 08:03 AM

It does have some similarities with Cuckoo's Nest, but it honestly isn't the same tune. Oh Lord, it's got into my head now, and is driving me round the bend. I'm just hoping someone on here can help!

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 06:56 AM

It's a bawdy Scots song - bit ironic to find it used for advertising children's toys

THE CUCKOO'S NEST
From the singing of Jeannie Robertson

There is a thorn bush in oor kail-yard,
There is a thorn bush in oor kail-yard,
At the back o' thorn bush, there stands a lad and lass
And they're busy, busy fairin' at the cuckoo's nest.

It's hi the cuckin, ho the cuckin, hi the cuckoo's nest,
It's hi the cuckin, ho the cuckin, hi the cuckoo's nest,
I'll gie onybody a shillin' and a bottle o' the best,
If they'll rumple up the feathers on the cuckoo's nest.

It is thorned, it is sprinkled, it is compassed all around,
It is thorned, it is sprinkled and it isn't easy found.
She said: "Young man, you're blundering." I said it wasnae true
And I left her wi' the makings o' a young cuckoo.        

It's hi the cuckin.......

Jeannie

It's also found in the North of Ireland as 'The Magpie's Nest' - nice version of it recorded from Anne Jane Kelly from Keady, Armargh in the 1950s by the BBC
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 05:12 AM

Yes Freddy, that's the one. I'm so sorry but I'm not terribly techno savvy and have no idea about doing 'links' etc.

Please, does anyone know what this blessed tune is? I used to go to a folk club in Edinburgh in the early sixties, and I'm pretty sure I heard this tune/song there.

I don't think it's cuckoo's nest, Danoota. I know that one quite well.

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Danoota
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 04:50 AM

Is it The Cuckoo's Nest?

Subject: RE: Desperate to identify this tune
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 04:31 AM

There might be dozens of ads Eliza.
It would be really helpful to incclude a link.
And maybe ask on the yt as well, maybe the producers are watching comments.

To get you started... This came up first
was it this one?

https://youtu.be/zfgSESqlsIw

Subject: Desperate to identify this tune
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 03:54 AM

There's an advert on TV for a child's toy called My Fairy Garden. They've taken a folk song and changed the words. It's driving me absolutely mad, as I'm certain the tune is familiar but I just can't identify it. You can hear it on Youtube. It sounds Scottish or Irish. Please, does anyone recognise it, before I go insane.