BS: TRUMP [was: 'he's in the way of ME']

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: gillymor
Date: 14 Jun 16 - 08:20 AM

Born an Afghan , yet another bald-face lie from Herr Trump to add to a long list.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Jun 16 - 12:20 PM

T***posaurus Rex charges again.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: frogprince
Date: 13 Jun 16 - 11:40 AM

Trump is milking the Orlando shooting as hard as he can; whether he even begins to believe in the legitimacy of the way he's spinning the situation for political attack is anyone's guess; either way, he's found a whole new mine for toxic rhetoric.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Jun 16 - 08:48 PM

Donald J. Trump, Working Class Hero.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Jun 16 - 01:27 PM

It was bound to happen, I suppose.

Christine Baranski and Meryl Streep, in aid of Shakespeare in the Park, performed "Brush Up On Your Shakespeare" in the personae of, respectively, Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump. Yes, there are photographs.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jun 16 - 06:27 PM

Top 10 Pros

Lance Armstrong
Carl Icahn
Martin Skhreli
James Tyson Jr.
Daniel H Mudd
Bernard Madoff
Christopher Christy
New England Patriots
Rush Limbaugh
Steve Wynn

Top ten citizens

George Zimmerman
Bob Jones
Wayne La Pierre
Joe Arpaio
Ivanka Trump
William McGinley
Cliven Bundy
David Koch
Paul Ryan
James Inhoff

Watch the Sparks fly when this crowd gets together after the inauguration and some very special pardons to compare notes
and fight for their slice of the pie.   This Fall on FOX, Trump's Heroes.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 Jun 16 - 09:52 AM

You bet, Ake! Your boy's not racist & everything he does is "legal and above board".

Trump launches race attack on judge in fraud case

Thursday 2 June 2016

Donald Trump has stepped up his attack on the federal judge presiding over the Trump University fraud case, telling the Wall Street Journal that Gonzalo Curiel's assignment to the case represents "an absolute conflict" because he is "of Mexican heritage".

A report from the Associated Press published on Thursday evening revealed that the presumptive Republican nominee donated tens of thousands of dollars to attorney generals who declined to pursue fraud charges against the now-defunct organization.

Trump donated $35,000 to the gubernatorial campaign of then-Texas attorney general Greg Abbott – a campaign that was ultimately successful – after Abbott's office dropped a 2010 probe into Trump University's "possibly deceptive business practices".

Florida attorney general Pam Bondi, who endorsed Trump the day before the crucial Florida primary, reportedly declined to join New York attorney general Eric Schneiderman's multi-state fraud suit against the organization after the Donald J Trump Foundation made a $25,000 contribution to a political action committee supporting her re-election campaign.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jun 16 - 11:01 AM

No Ake I am not crazy or angry. If I settled down any more I'd be dead. While people who know little about fascism do not consider themselves a Nazi sympathizer they may have some sympathetic ideas they themselves are not aware. It begins small like an increase in name calling and bigotry.

If you wanted immunity from becoming a TRUMP MINION you would have done it by now.
Immunity begins with considering that it is you who may be wrong about something.

I have already written about Trump's disposition on fascism and his relationship with fascists.

The dangers of a narcissist like Donald flirting with such factors is considerable.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: gillymor
Date: 01 Jun 16 - 01:00 PM

Agreed, Greg, the reasons to stop Trump are manifold and I think we've just seen the tip of the iceberg on this Trump U. scam.
Herr Donald is now experiencing the flipside of "unprecedented media coverage" and will all summer, much to his chagrin.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Jun 16 - 12:43 PM

If the Trump Thing were merely a pathological liar, things wouldn't be quite so bad as they are, Gilly.

Dick Nixon was a pathological liar & we survived him - barely; Trump is very, very much worse.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Jun 16 - 12:25 PM

Do you really think Mr Trump is a fascist

Yes, and you would too, Ake, if you were paying any attention at all.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Jun 16 - 12:15 PM

Don, when I said that I was surprised more were not writing about the "super delegate issue", I meant on Mudcat.
If this chicanery was going on in the UK, there would be massive protests.

Do you really think Mr Trump is a fascist,or that UK members of this forum have Fascist sympathies.......if so, I'm afraid you are getting a bit carried away.

Cool down and be reasonable, there are many more "fascist" ideologues in the left of politics than there are amongst conservatives.
I have studied them for years......look at this forum and see who the most rabid ideologues are.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: gillymor
Date: 01 Jun 16 - 11:12 AM

Trump and the Veterans

At this point in the campaign the most pertinent question to me is how do we keep this pathological liar from gaining the White House.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jun 16 - 10:13 AM

"I'm amazed that more American voters are not writing about the Super delegates issue."
'Akenaton'

I am amazed that you have read, watched and heard everything regarding this issue that is being exhaustively examined in America.








Is it true that Britain still has a collective of Olde German enthusiasts that range from the Anglo Saxon to the closeted Nazi sympathizer?

I would not be surprised if some here had a special red white and black memorabilia collection packed away.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Jun 16 - 09:29 AM

Yup, Ake - legal and above board, you bet:

Ex-Workers at Trump's School Call It a 'Lie' and a 'Scheme'

In testimony released from a lawsuit that was filed by dissatisfied former Trump University students, former managers said the school relied on high-pressure sales tactics and deceptive claims.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html?_r=0

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: akenaton
Date: 31 May 16 - 02:31 AM

I find the workings of American politics fascinating.
I'm amazed that more American voters are not writing about the Super delegates issue.
It does seem very undemocratic.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 30 May 16 - 12:26 PM

Hey Ake, your lying sack of crap "legal and above board" hero strikes again!

Donald Trump a conquering hero for bikers at Rolling Thunder rally.
Ben Jacobs in Washington
Sunday 29 May 2016


Among thousands of blue-collar bikers wearing patches that called Jane Fonda a traitor, Donald Trump was received rapturously.

On the Sunday of the Memorial Day weekend, the Republican presidential nominee attended the Rolling Thunder rally, a huge gathering on the National Mall in Washington DC. Speaking to a crowd that spilled down the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, he was received as a conquering hero.

Trump repeatedly claimed – falsely – that hundreds of thousands were trying to attend the event, at one point claiming there were "600,000 people trying to get in".

The crowd had been primed by a one-term congressman from New York, John LeBoutillier, who insisted in his own speech that hundreds of American prisoners of war were still being held in Vietnam. LeBoutillier also echoed Trump's infamous criticism of one prisoner of war who was held in Vietnam, in terrible conditions, and then came home: John McCain.

Repeated congressional investigations have found no evidence that any living prisoners of wars are still held in south-east Asia.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 16 - 11:46 AM

Yes you will suffer political fatigue before its over.
Germany did, England did. Russia did at the greatest cost of all.

But it is important. More important than you seem to know.

If you still have doubts, ask an old Jew.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 May 16 - 11:12 AM

This hot mess of a presidential campaign hasn't died off yet? Maybe it has, if you read some of the posts then it's all over but the shouting. Oh, Lord, the shouting.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 30 May 16 - 07:35 AM

Here's your boy again, Ake -

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel called a "hater" by Donald Trump for his handling of a lawsuit related to the businessman's Trump University real estate school, has unsealed documents related to the case.

Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee for the Nov. 8 election, is fighting a lawsuit that accuses his school venture of misleading thousands of people who paid up to $35,000 for seminars to learn about the billionaire's real estate investment strategies.

"I have a judge who is a hater of Donald Trump. A hater. He's a hater," Trump said. "We're in front of a very hostile judge. The judge was appointed by Barack Obama," Trump said, adding he believed Curiel was Mexican.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Donuel
Date: 29 May 16 - 12:25 PM

Those wo study fascist politics have remarked previously that America has been fortunate for most of its history not
to have had a fascist figure rise out of the ranks of American fascist movements. And in the case of Donald Trump,
that remains true - he has no background or history as a white supremacist or proto-fascist, nor does he actually express
their ideologies.


Rather, what he is doing is mustering the latent fascist tendencies in American politics - some of it overtly white supremacist,
while the majority of it is the structural racism and white privilege that springs from the nation's extensive racist and
genocidal white-supremacist historical foundations - on his own behalf. He is our Pied Piper leading us down the path towards a
fascist state even without being himself an overt fascist.

That being said we should use our psychological X ray eyes to peer into the motivations of Trump as we have W, Obama and the Clintons.

W had a chip on his shoulder for having his father called a wimp, Obama would make sure he would never be accused of the stereotype of
being an angry black man. The Clintons have always been assured they could easily bamboozle people after their experience with the good people of Arkansas.

Trump is motivated by a get even mentality. His idea of a deal is maximum exploitation. In a nuclear age how will that play with the cultures
that view America with paranoia and evil incarnate?

I challenge you to compare and contrast FDR and his "Freedom from" speech with anything Donald has ever said.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 May 16 - 09:16 AM

no background or history as a white supremacist

Hmmm. Lets see. A buddy of David Duke's. Mexicans are all rapists and murderers. Muslims worse. & etc.& etc.& etc.& etc.& etc.

Guess you haven't ben paying attention?

a beast of muddy brain

"The People" ain't alone, Ake.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: akenaton
Date: 29 May 16 - 02:54 AM

I can agree with some of that Don, but the summation is that politics is a game of manipulation, no matter who is doing the manipulating.

From the establishment, the biggest weapon is always "fear", fear of the future, fear of losing "rights", fear of losing the little "financial security" that we have managed to garner, no matter how small or insignificant it may be.

"The People" is certainly a beast of muddy brain.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 16 - 07:06 PM

Scholars of fascist politics have remarked previously that America has been fortunate for most of its history not to have had a fascist figure rise out of the ranks of American fascist movements. And in the case of Donald Trump, that remains true - he has no background or history as a white supremacist or proto-fascist, nor does he actually express their ideologies.

Rather, what he is doing is mustering the latent fascist tendencies in American politics - some of it overtly white supremacist, while the majority of it is the structural racism and white privilege that springs from the nation's extensive racist and genocidal white-supremacist historical foundations - on his own behalf. He is our Pied Piper leading us down the path towards a fascist state even without being himself an overt fascist.

That being said we should use our psychological X ray eyes to peer into the motivations of Trump as we have W, Obama and the Clintons.

W had a chip on his shoulder for having his father called a wimp, Obama would make sure he would never be accused of the stereotype of being an angry black man. The Clintons have always been assured they could easily bamboozle people after their experience with the good people of Arkansas.

Trump is motivated by a get even mentality. His idea of a deal is maximum exploitation. In a nuclear age how will that play with the cultures that view America with paranoia and evil incarnate?

I challenge you to compare and contrast FDR and his "Freedom from" speech" with anything Donald has ever said.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 May 16 - 03:53 PM

This hot mess of a thread hasn't died off yet?

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: gillymor
Date: 28 May 16 - 02:44 PM

Herr Trump is no idiot, he seems to be expert at appealing to peoples' basest instincts for his own political gain.

He also has the ability to spin on a dime in one sentence:

"I'm not advocating guns in classrooms," he reiterated. "In some cases — and a lot of people have made this case — teachers should be able to have guns, trained teachers should be able to have guns in classrooms."

Huffington Post 5-22

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 May 16 - 01:35 PM

Mr Trump's economic policies, which do not diverge much from that of Mrs Clinton's

Bullshit.

not the idiot he has been painted by you lot

Bullshhit. Got any evidence?

There cannot be any skeletons lurking in Mr Trump's

There are several metric tons of such skeletons accumualated throughout The Incredible Trump's decades long career as a crook, manipulator, and generallly ignorant piece of fascist shit. Educate yourself.

Steve, as you appear to have no understanding of politics

Not sure if I should laugh at that statement, Ake, or just puke.

Or both?

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: akenaton
Date: 28 May 16 - 01:34 PM

You must be a masochist Steve.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 May 16 - 12:37 PM

Today is being so much fun. Akenaton and Keith, never leave us, please. You make us feel so good about ourselves. 😂😂😂

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: akenaton
Date: 28 May 16 - 12:15 PM

Well, I am not a supporter of Mr Trump's economic policies, which do not diverge much from that of Mrs Clinton....I prefer the views of Mr Sanders, but I have been saying for months that Mr Trump was a serious player and certainly not the idiot he has been painted by you lot.    I don't believe in the Capitalist system, especially one in terminal decline, but if I did Mr Trump would be the man I would vote for to lead the country.....his ideas on détente with Russia and China to improve trade and stop the continual ideological war, seem like common sense.   The man is a pragmatist with a very shrewd political brain.

There cannot be any skeletons lurking in Mr Trump's as is the case with Mrs Clinton; if there had been the media ferrets or the political establishment would have attacked long before now.

The American left still have one chance, lobby the Democrats to drop Mrs Clinton and give the nomination to Mr Sanders......he alone can defeat Mr Trump.......but given the political system they have to oversee, I am unsure who would be the best long term bet.

Steve, as you appear to have no understanding of politics, excuse me if I fail to respond to your nonsense.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 16 - 11:44 AM

Ake, keep going. Everything you say about Trump and the direction he will lead us with the fundamental wisdom of his policies and behavior is true
of the way all Trump supporters speak, think and engage.

Therein lies the rub.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 May 16 - 09:29 AM

So, akenaton, not as big a menace to society as Hillary then. Admit it - you've finally lost it. And that isn't a personal attack. It's an expression of sympathy.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 May 16 - 09:24 AM

Yup, Everything legal and above board, Ake:

Trump has called climate change "a total hoax," "a canard" and "a total con job" — his words.

But if Trump won't pay a visit to reality, reality may soon pay a visit to him. He acknowledged this in his filing to build a giant sea wall to protect one of his golf courses in Ireland "from global warming and its effects." Perhaps he'll get the ocean to pay for it.

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee recently named a leading climate-change skeptic, Representative Kevin Cramer, Republican of North Dakota, as an energy adviser. "We know the globe is cooling," Cramer said in 2012. It takes at least $500,000 — the amount of money given Cramer's campaigns by the fossil fuel industry — to buy that kind of crackpot theorizing.

Trump has made similar scientifically illiterate statements. And during a campaign stop at a petroleum conference in North Dakota Thursday, he sounded ever more troglodyte, lying about the Paris accords and promising to bring back the Keystone XL pipeline.

But in protecting his sizable investment on the Irish coast, he's putting his money where his mouth isn't. Moving 200,000 tons of rock in place to block a rising sea says far more than the vapors of ignorance emitted by Trump at the podium.

Timothy Eagan NY TIMES 27 May 2016

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 May 16 - 08:50 AM

ere's your "Everything legal and above board" corporatist boy, Ake: lying sack of poop that he is....

FRESNO, Calif. (AP) — Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump told California voters Friday that he can solve their water crisis, declaring, "There is no drought."

California is, in fact, in midst of a drought. Last year capped the state's driest four-year period in its history, with record low rainfall and snow.

Speaking at a rally in Fresno, Calif., Trump accused state officials of denying water to Central Valley farmers so they can send it out to sea "to protect a certain kind of three-inch fish."

"We're going to solve your water problem. You have a water problem that is so insane. It is so ridiculous where they're taking the water and shoving it out to sea," Trump said at a rally that drew thousands.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 May 16 - 07:55 AM

Rubbish, he has played a massive game against all odds....

....the "liberal" left does not like democracy when they are on the wrong end...

....Anyway the man has earned his nomination.....

....not Mrs Clinton I think.... She is a menace to society.

I rest my case. Totally bonkers.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: akenaton
Date: 28 May 16 - 02:24 AM

"Deluded and demented".......unprovoked personal attack!

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 May 16 - 09:08 PM

Jesus. Yankee politics is utterly infantile. I hasten to add that UK politics isn't much better. Roll on the Boris/Donald axis! We should take comfort from the fact that President Donald wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance of actually doing anything as president. Lame duck from day one. Everybody who is anybody in US politics hates his guts. We'll be fine. The world won't move on but we'll be fine. Hillary would be similar. Shackled from day one. Over three hundred million people, yanks, and bloody Hillary is the best you can come up with. It's all actually very uninteresting. The most interesting thing about this thread is that akenaton is acting true to form. Losing it. Deluded and demented. Sad case.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Jeri
Date: 27 May 16 - 07:59 PM

I'm thinking the whole fear-based voting thing is going to wind up working against T****p when people have the chance to seriously consider what a world with a racist, sexist, selfish, crooked, wannabe Nazi as president might be like. Bernie could beat him, Hillary could beat him, and I bet Chongo could.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: gillymor
Date: 27 May 16 - 12:38 PM

Do a little research,

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: akenaton
Date: 27 May 16 - 12:33 PM

Rubbish, he has played a massive game against all odds.
Everything legal and above board, no violence at Mrs Clinton or Mr Sanders meetings.....the "liberal" left does not like democracy when they are on the wrong end.

Anyway the man has earned his nomination, now who can beat him for the Presidency.....not Mrs Clinton I think....too much establishment and corporate baggage, too much reliance on war and bombing to solve complicated foreign policy problems. She is a menace to society.

Can the left stand up for a watery socialism, which they continually expound?.......again I think not.    Looks like Mr Trump has the momentum......and the political acumen......we shall see.

Have a nice day.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: gillymor
Date: 27 May 16 - 12:21 PM

Violence begets violence and Mr. Trump, which his hate speech and his incitement of his own supporters, has brought this on.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 May 16 - 07:57 AM

Supporting Fascist rioters is not the way forward.

Then why is Trump supporting them, Ake?

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: akenaton
Date: 27 May 16 - 02:34 AM

First time for a while that we have seen democracy in action in US politics.........sort of exposes the hypocrisy on the left.

Supporting Fascist rioters is not the way forward.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 16 - 08:11 PM

I expect a militia ill publicly endorse Trump.

The one I am thinking of is called the 3%.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 May 16 - 11:21 AM

Rock-throwing protesters

As opposed to punch-throwing Trumpistas?

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 May 16 - 07:35 PM

My home was in Albuquerque, New Mexico for a number of years. Oh, the shame. Rock-throwing protesters....children are indeed raised better than that there.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 16 - 03:32 PM

According to the Waternoose poll, Trump is now leading Clinton by double digits.

The new anti Hillary ad is credited for the surge.
In the ad Trump's campaign highlights Bill Clinton's peccadillos and the death of Vince Foster.

When asked about the peccadillos, Donald Trump said " I don't know anything about pecker dildos but everyone knows about murder."

Trump's new pollster Thirsten F. Waternoose is known for the Bush campaign where he was quoted saying "I don't care if I have to fake a thousand polls if it will save this country".

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 May 16 - 03:18 PM

Why do I care?

More pertinently, Ake, What do you Know?

Bugger-All.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 16 - 11:13 AM

Check out the most recent show by John Oliver.

Its about changing the super delegate fiasco.

Subject: RE: BS: 'he's in the way of ME'
From: akenaton
Date: 24 May 16 - 02:49 AM

Without the Super Delegates, Mr Sanders and Mrs Clinton would be almost neck and neck for the nomination......with the momentum in Mr Sanders favour. Also the polls show that Mr Sanders stands a much better chance of defeating Mr Trump in a Presidential election.

I would call that a pretty obvious change in voters intentions from those at the beginning of the nomination contest?
If what Don says is true the SDs will swiftly move to a position which benefits the Party.......Of course, what benefits the Party does not always benefit the electorate!

Why do I care?.......American Foreign Policy......War or Peace.