Tunes that don't end

Subject: Tunes that don't end
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 08:17 PM

I was chatting the other day and a couple of tunes, The Butterfly and Drowsy Maggie, were mentioned as tunes that don't seem to want to stop - the just seem to go round again and agian.

Does anybody find that happens with other tunes or have suggestions of tunes that could be used to follow these ones?

Jon

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From: Jeri
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 11:14 PM

Another one - the slip jig Kid On The Mountain. (Well at least for me. I can never remember which is the last part.) Of course, when you do find the end, you can play Butterfly after it...or play Kid after Butterfly. Would Road to Lisdoonvarna work after Butterfly?

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From:
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 11:26 PM

42nd or Black Watch

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From: bunkerhill
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 12:13 AM

I think of 'em as tickle songs. "Flop-Eared Mule" comes to mind. There's a take off on "Snow Drop" called "Gum Drop" has same kind of whimsy. Country dance songs that carry themselves along until the dancers' tongues are hanging out.

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 03:00 AM

I always wanted to do Paul Simon's "The Boxer" and have the group on stage get stuck on the Na-na-na's (feels like a never-ending riff to me), and then have the band members one-by-one get fed up and leave the stage.

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From: Sam Pirt
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 11:44 AM

TamLin could follow Drowsy maggie or perhaps Brenda

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From: Sam Pirt
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 11:47 AM

Woops entered that before I was ready, any how Brenda Stubberts is a good tto follow it with. Another tune the Does not end is Pinch of snuff

Cheers, Sam

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From: Bruce O.
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 03:57 PM

They are usually called cyclic tunes and don't end on the keynote, but lead back to the beginning of the tune where that's almost always the keynote. In the Irish tune index on my website many are noted. At the end of the Keynote/ Mode+ specifier of the tunes, they are the ones that have 'o' at the end. www.erols.com/olsonw

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From: Willie-O
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 04:27 PM

Thanks Bruce thats what I was going to say, except it sounds better coming from you...I learned them as being "circular" tunes. There is a distinction between tunes that don't end because they resolve back to the A part (when you end them, its usually at the end of the A part which does resolve if yo're lucky) and ones which don't end because they get played and played and played.

My favourite on guitar is The Earl's Chair in D.

Bill C

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From: Bruce O.
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 04:35 PM

I like 'cyclic' a little better than 'circular', but here, they mean the same thing. One must recognize such when coding tunes as in my Irish tune index. If you just follow the sharps or flats on the key signature and take the last note as the key note, you get a lot of tunes that look like they are locrian mode.

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From: jofi
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 11:47 PM

Subject: RE: Tunes that don't end
From: jofield
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 11:48 PM

Handsome Molly -- or is that the same as Drowsy Maggie?