BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Nov 16 - 09:14 AM

Not the only one perhaps.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Nov 16 - 08:45 AM

CORRECTION:

So you have nothing to say, and no basis to say it, yet continue to post...

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Nov 16 - 08:44 AM

GregtrF: In RE: Yours 07 Nov 16 - 06:10 PM please see 07 Nov 16 - 11:57 AM


So you have nothing to say, yet continue to post...

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 06:10 PM

BEARDIE: In RE: Yours 07 Nov 16 - 03:43 PM please see 07 Nov 16 - 11:48 AM.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 06:00 PM

We may be democrats or republicans but we are all full of probiotics.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 03:43 PM

GregtrF,

So, HOW MANY YEARS were you handling classified information?

What positions of responsibility dealing with classified information have you ever been in?
What training in dealing with classified information have you ever had?


I have stated previously MY answers to these questions. I await your's, or your admission that, besides being a proven liar and racist, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 12:06 PM

I think you meant Article 2.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 12:05 PM

GregtrF,- Go back into your cesspool.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 12:02 PM

Beardie - take your meds.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 12:01 PM

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Article1

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 11:59 AM

Bee-dubya_ell,

Section 4 - Disqualification

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

OK, she can run, be elected and than "SHALL be removed from office".

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 11:57 AM

So, GregtrF,

You have no basis for your statements, you have proven previously BY YOUR POSTS that you lie, and you have been shown BY YOUR POSTS to be a racist.

PERFECT poster boy for the Liberal Cause!

The rest of you here on Mudcat must be so proud of yourselves, and who you associate with.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 11:52 AM

Bearded Bruce said: "IF this was a nation of laws, and the DOJ treated her as if she was any other citizen of this country, she would not be eligible to run for president, or any other public office."

Vashta Nerada replied: "Now THAT is an outright lie. All of it. And you know it, yet you continue to press your bigotted lies and suggest a conversation can be had with you."

Bearded Bruce replied: "sorry, Vashta Nerada. What I have stated is not a lie, regardless of your saying WITHOUT ANY JUSTIFICATION OR FACTUAL BASIS that it is.


Well, Bearded Bruce, here's the "FACTUAL BASIS" to which you refer: Click here. There is absolutely no prohibition against anyone running for federal elected office regardless of criminal history. The only requirements are of age, citizenship and residency.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 11:48 AM

Ah, but you see Beardie, your answers to your own inane, self-serving "questions" have bugger-all to do with anything.

The difficulty - as many others here besides myself realize and point out is that you can't tell fact from fiction.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 11:32 AM

Here's one of Donuel's "theories" you might want to buy into, Joe: Trump sure has energized and legitimized the Cockroaches

If that doesn't worry you, it should.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 11:27 AM

GregtrF,

So, HOW MANY YEARS were you handling classified information?

What positions of responsibility dealing with classified information have you ever been in?
What training in dealing with classified information have you ever had?


I have stated previously MY answers to these questions. I await your's, or your admission that, besides being a proven liar and racist, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 11:21 AM

Exactly, Charmion.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Charmion
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 11:11 AM

I completely agree with Joe Offer's assessment of the e-mail thing, and for the same reasons -- extensive experience with real-life government security work and the electronic tools people are expected to use when doing it. The classified "high side" Internet has its benefits, but it is not portable; users have to be in a restricted area to get at it. As Secretary of State, Mrs Clinton seemed to spend most of her life on the road, and could hardly carry a SCIF around with her.

The need for constant access to classified communications is one of the primary reasons why a task force commander of today sits in the Tactical Operations Centre, and not in the van of the assault force.

More to the point, I have never seen any indication that, through her use of a private server, Mrs Clinton divulged operationally sensitive information to any unauthorized person, let alone an adversary, or that said use contributed to any identifiable injury to the United States -- even the Benghazi attack. Consequently, she could not be charged with anything more serious than a "security violation" (i.e., an error of procedure). To prove treason, even in a Trump court, it would be necessary to produce evidence of harmful intent, and that, too, is missing.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 11:10 AM

...your saying WITHOUT ANY JUSTIFICATION OR FACTUAL BASIS that it is.

As opposed, I suppose, Beardie, to your saying WITHOUT ANY JUSTIFICATION OR FACTUAL BASIS that it is not.

Jesus wept.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 10:24 AM

sorry, Vashta Nerada.

What I have stated is not a lie, regardless of your saying WITHOUT ANY JUSTIFICATION OR FACTUAL BASIS that it is.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 08:16 AM

McGrath, that was so wry it started mu day with good laugh.

Joe, I like my Nazis afraid to come out of the woodwork and keep their heads down. This election has brought them to the forefront.
Like autism the Nazi spectrum can be subtle to deadly.
I give you a 2% on the Reich scale and I give Lucky Lindy a 35%

How could you possibly share my opinion regarding Nazis

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 04:59 AM

US politics are a disgrace.....one good thing will have come of this charade regardless of who "wins"......American politics will never be the same again.

I think we will see proper representation for the American people through a new mainstream Party which will campaign for transparency in what is obviously an extremely corrupt system which works only in the interests of the Corporate Class.
That the "left" aligned themselves behind someone like Mrs Clinton is almost surreal.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 01:55 AM

Donuel says: You even seem to think Lindbergh was a great American patriot.

I wonder how Donuel draws THAT conclusion. Maybe because I didn't demonize Lindbergh? No Donuel, I don't buy into many of your theories, I guess. I try to see the good side of people, and I don't often see conspiracies. I figure most people don't have good reason to do the awful things people suspect they do.

But no, I wouldn't put Lindbergh on my list of Great American Patriots. He was a good pilot, no doubt.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 09:37 PM

There might be early voters put off voting for Clinton by this stuff. Even if they weren't unhinged enough to go for Trump they might have voted for one of the others. Election day is meant to be the day people decide.

If Clinton doesn't get in it won't just be the Trump voters who enabled him to win, just like with Gore and Bush.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 09:07 PM

The FBI have announced had a quick shufty through this extra batch of emails. And there is no evidence whatsoever of any criminality.

Yeah Comey is one stupid fu**er - but that won't have any effect on BeardedBozo or the rest of the Trumpist brain-dead.

Kevin, re: Early Voting- if folks didn't know what an obnoxious and worthless piece of shit Trump was three months ago more recent revelations won't make a damn's worth of difference.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 07:27 PM

Early voting is a pretty stupid idea really.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: DMcG
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 06:43 PM

Nothing in the new emails? Just as well that's been clarified. - we wouldn't want anything misleading to influence how anyone votes/voted, would we?

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 05:36 PM

"... convicted of rape,torture, cannibalism and murder." I don't imagine that would have put off the more enthusiastic Trump supporters
............

And now I see the FBI have announced had a quick shufty through this extra batch of emails. And there is no evidence whatsoever of any criminality.

Push the reboot button...

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 05:29 PM

Comey affirms there's no there there.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 01:35 PM

For a couple centuries Joe, elections have been brutal in the sense both sides throw dirty underwear against the wall and pick the ones that stick to run on.

A hundred years ago Indiana was completely run by the KKK in government until the leader was convicted rape,torture, cannibalism and murder.

The age old practice of fascism is a foundation of human nature, sadism and pathology. This will continue to be a force of destruction unless we recognize it in all its forms and strengthen democracy.
As democracy grows weak Nazism, as expressed in our recent history, grows strong.

Joe, your ability to see this is quite subdued. You even seem to think Lindbergh was a great American patriot.



The whole email thing is just another pair of dirty underwear that stuck to the wall. As it dries I expect it will soon fall off   the wall.


Bonus points for naming the politician who coined the underwear sticking phrase.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 01:24 PM

Because Trump hopes that if he repeats a lie often enough it will become true.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 01:13 PM

It's easy enough to see why political opponents might try to make a big issue of it - anything goes in political campaigning.

Apart that is from the occasional genuinely honest one - it was striking that, at the height of battling with Hillary for the nomination, Bernie Sanders said he was sick and tired of this stuff about Hillary's emails. "Let's go to the major issues that are facing America."

What's puzzling is why this non-issue should have got any more serious traction than nonsense conspiracy stuff did.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 12:59 PM

This entire email "scandal" is just another empty Republican attempt at character assassination.

Ya got it in one, Joe.

But its hardly an "attempt" - for millions of evidently brain-damaged Americans, its a fait accompli.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 12:38 PM

From the very beginning, I have not understood why this email thing is such a big issue. It would seem to me that the Secretary of State should have the authority to control her communications in any way she wishes. She should also be able to determine how she will handle classified information. After all, doesn't she have the authority to classify or declassify information?
I did government security work for 30 years, and I used government email on the job for over a decade. The technology was at least 10 year years behind what was available in the corporate market, so I can easily understand why secretary Clinton would want to use her own email system. On top of that, government computer systems have been compromised time and time again. Many government agencies are using the same software that I used 20 years ago, so now it is 30 years out of date.
So, as far as I can see, this entire email "scandal" is just another empty Republican attempt at character assassination.
Joe

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Nov 16 - 11:45 AM

Fair And Balanced, Eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: robomatic
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 10:11 PM

I apologize for consecutive posting, should have included this link in my last foray:

Vox-com- Clinton EMail Scandal BS

The website is new to me, I'm not claiming it is journalism. I feel at the least it gives counterpoint to the "Lock Her Up!" crowd.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: robomatic
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 09:54 PM

BB: My apologies for missing your reply to my post. I am an incomplete reader.

Those who insist on making ad hominem attacks without contributing some valid input are merely diminishing their 'brand'. In other words, if you are wielding a tarbrush but not furnishing a light bulb, I am thinking less of you with each post. It doesn't take much to furnish links to support your position.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 09:38 PM

Interesting reading:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/11/04/if-he-loses-trump-will-continue-spreading-destruction-and-mayhem-this-chart-shows-how/

https://newrepublic.com/article/138342/trump-apocalypse-might-not-come-republican-one-will

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 12:40 PM

Then, of course, the outright lies and misinformation that are sometimes posted are pretty "distasteful" in and of themselves.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 12:35 PM

McGrath says: I imagine the reason the thread was terminated was because of the unpleasant tone and distasteful nature of the insults being thrown around.

That would be a valid conclusion. Despite allegations from both sides of the argument that the moderators are politically biased, threads are closed because they have devolved into petty squabbling. We see a lot of that here.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 11:16 AM

A moment of silence & sympathy for the FBI agents tasked with immersing themselves in all the e mails found in Anthony Wiener's sticky lap top.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 11:03 AM

The relationship between a Republican controlled Congress and a President Trump would be a bit like that between a man who thought he was happily married and the asshole new boyfriend his wife just left him for.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: DMcG
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 09:43 AM

And so would Trump - he and Ryan are not exactly best buddies. I don't think he can assume a compliant house and senate if he wins.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 09:33 AM

And for good measure, a Democratic house

That one's DOA - she'll be stuck with Paul Ryan. Kinda like "Obama Take Two".

The Repuglicruds have learned nothing, and have changed not one whit.

Subject: RE: BS: Hillary's emails again, and again,...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 01:05 AM

When she's elected, there will be individuals who have nothing more in mind than trying to block her at every turn, trying to make the case for bogus "crimes." Let's hope the American public has the good sense to give her some room to work in - like a Democratic Senate. And for good measure, a Democratic house. That would give her at least two years to try to whip things into shape, as long as she can harness the "blue dog" Democrats, the ones who made the first 2 years of Obama's first term so difficult. Republicans in Democrat's clothing. But maybe they won't be such scaredy cats this time around.

Subject: RE: BS: Hilary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Nov 16 - 07:55 PM

I'm sure Beardie believes it with his whole heart and soul, tho.

Subject: RE: BS: Hilary's emails again, and again,...
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Nov 16 - 07:33 PM

HILLARY INDICTED !

so says FOX news and Donald, which was a total fair and balanced bald faced lie

Subject: RE: BS: Hilary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Nov 16 - 07:00 PM

Nothing is trivial, Kevin, if you're a Trumpist lunatic - hell Them Mooselim Tayrists is to imposing Sharia Law as I type!

See " Trump Again" thread, most recent post.

Subject: RE: BS: Hilary's emails again, and again,...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Nov 16 - 06:53 PM

It really all sounds pretty trivial stuff.. There's no uss about all the other politicians who have used private email in the same way over the years.

Subject: RE: BS: Hilary's emails again, and again,...
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Nov 16 - 06:36 PM

Feel free to go look it up,

Ever consider looking it up yourself, Beardie, befoe spewing bullshit?

No, of copurse not.