BS: 15 years later

Subject: BS: 15 years later
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jan 17 - 08:07 PM

15 years ago I made a prediction of sorts. Amos told me it was stupid to say so and eventually the thread was closed. Has America lost the war? We certainly prevented tragedy at great cost! But win? There is no winning. Bear in mind this was back before our invasion in 2003.
The Trade Center was still smoldering... and I was still raving and ranting. The point is America has LOST THE WAR.


(sample from 2001 )

Subject: RE: BS: America has LOST THE WAR
From: Donuel - PM
Date: 25 Sep 01 - 12:59 AM

M. Ted , Lets enter hypothetical mode to answer your question of why be so careful with an elaborate strategy and a world court of some kind to legitimatize our war against terrorism -

If we were at war with a nation that released nuclear radiation in the form of depleted uranium from the Mississippi to the east coast that caused a continual deformation of our infant children you would be pretty darn mad. Now lets get real...
This is what we did to Iraq on a large scale. The "DU" we left in the Balkans is tiny in comparison. Using nuclear weapons is surprisingly not a war crime. Is this ironic , tragic , or the proudest moment in the history of mankind?
Now we have a foe full of 2000 years of vengeance with a nuke or two that thinks he knows us because we trained him and Allah guides him. We will win at all costs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How much will the lesson cost??: 3 buildings and 7000 lives, a city , 20 cities , 200,000 ground troops ? Will the lessons be learned ?
Is a better weapon of mass destruction the saner weapon? Are non fissionable radioactive weapons humane?
We hear about crack babies but not a word about the twisted masses of deformed flesh that are called Iraqi infants.
Patriots need not reply with "they had it coming" remarks. Nobody should have it coming, NOT YOU , NOT THE 7000 , NOT ANYONE.
There are many here that understand there is more at stake than a successful killing of bin Laden.
Deliberate calm thought is required by a kung fu master, samurai , ninja and even the US to vanquish this enemy.
I am just an average guy and can not fathom all the complexities. I don't think Rumsfeld has a handle on all the complexities to come either.

Subject: RE: BS: 15 years later
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jan 17 - 08:27 PM

Many years before starting that thread I also predicted the twin tower explosions and fire, but in a 16 sq. ft. painting. That shocked me to the core upon reflection but there are many such stories.

I have hesitated to large paintings since. Mock if you must but it didn't happen to you. Reality is the ultimate Trump card.

Subject: RE: BS: 15 years later
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jan 17 - 09:30 PM

No one is saying the current face of jihad is winning but there is evidence it has not shrunk from any form of crusade it has faced.
Ideas do not die from drones.

The vessel that I am has begun the short story of The Devil and Barack Obama and the largest painting I have ever undertaken.

Do good work, keep in touch and have a productive new year.
Farewell.
Signing out until I'm done.
Donuel

Subject: RE: BS: 15 years later
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Jan 17 - 10:31 PM

Um,1979 was a lot more than 15 years ago, and anyway, if we'd lost, the war would be over.