BS: reign of terror

Subject: Hail Caesar
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 12:12 PM

Sinsull started a thread with the title:
Let All the Poisons that Lurk in the Mud [Hatch Out]
but that thread has been closed some time ago.

So this thread cannot have Sinsull's thread title,
but it is in the same spirit.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 12:39 PM

we all bleed the same red blood
we have made other countries rich while our own wealth has dissipated over the horizon
From this day forward it is only going to be America first
We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries
We will bring back our dreams, borders and wealth
2 rules, make and buy American.
We will make new alliances
This American carnage stops right now
We will get our people off welfare
I will never ever let you down
We will shine for everyone to follow
We will eradicate completely Islamic Terrorism from the face of the Earth
At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America
and through or loyalty to our country we will rediscover our loyalty to each other
When you open your heart to patriotism there is no room for prejudice

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 12:43 PM

did he really.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 12:46 PM

select but actual inaugural quotes

nothing about values of democracy, liberty, freedom, or pluralism

It was stark and dark.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 12:51 PM

I do approve of his pledge for better infrastructure.

The trains will probably run on time.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 12:56 PM

Il Douche?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 12:59 PM

precisely but more immature.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 01:16 PM

At this point there is no evidence of a reign of terror, only a pledge of ultra nationalism. - USA Uber Alles (above everything)

Sounds like Bannon banter

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 01:33 PM

A transcript of Trump's first speech as president follows.

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"Chief Justice Roberts, President Carter, President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, fellow Americans and people of the world, thank you.

We, the citizens of America, are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and restore its promise for all of our people.

Together, we will determine the course of America and the world for many, many years to come. We will face challenges. We will confront hardships. But we will get the job done.

Every four years we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power.

And we are grateful to President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition.

They have been magnificent.

Thank you.

Today's ceremony, however, has a very special meaning because today we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another or from one party to another, but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the people.

For too long, a small group in our nation's capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have bore the cost. Washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered but the jobs left and the factories closed.

The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs. And while they celebrated in our nation's capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

That all changes starting right here and right now, because this moment is your moment.

It belongs to you.

It belongs to everyone gathered here today and everyone watching all across America.

This is your day.

This is your celebration.

And this, the United States of America, is your country.

What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people.

January 20th, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.

The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. Everyone is listening to you now. You came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement, the likes of which the world has never seen before.

At the center of this movement is a crucial conviction that a nation exists to serve its citizens. Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families and good jobs for themselves.

These are just and reasonable demands of righteous people and a righteous public.

But for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists.

Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities, rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation.

An education system flush with cash but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge.

And the crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

We are one nation, and their pain is our pain.

Their dreams are our dreams, and their success will be our success. We share one heart, one home and one glorious destiny.

The oath of office I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans.

For many decades we've enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry, subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military.

We've defended other nations' borders while refusing to defend our own. And we've spent trillions and trillions of dollars overseas while America's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay.

We've made other countries rich while the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has dissipated over the horizon.

One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores with not even a thought about the millions and millions of American workers that were left behind.

The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed all across the world. But that is the past, and now we are looking only to the future.

We assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital and in every hall of power. From this day forward, a new vision will govern our land.

From this day forward, it's going to be only America first, America first. Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs will be made to benefit American workers and American families. We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our product, stealing our companies and destroying our jobs.

Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength. I will fight for you with every breath in my body, and I will never ever let you down.

America will start winning again, winning like never before.

We will bring back our jobs.

We will bring back our borders.

We will bring back our wealth, and we will bring back our dreams.

We will build new roads and highways and bridges and airports and tunnels and railways all across our wonderful nation.

We will get our people off of welfare and back to work, rebuilding our country with American hands and American labor.

We will follow two simple rules: Buy American and hire American.

We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world, but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first.

We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example.

We will shine for everyone to follow.

We will re-enforce old alliances and form new ones and unite the civilized world against radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the earth.

At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

The Bible tells us how good and pleasant it is when God's people live together in unity. We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity. When America is united, America is totally unstoppable. There should be no fear. We are protected and we will always be protected. We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement. And most importantly, we will be protected by God.

Finally, we must think big and dream even bigger. In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving. We will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action, constantly complaining but never doing anything about it.

The time for empty talk is over. Now arrives the hour of action.

Do not allow anyone to tell you that it cannot be done. No challenge can match the heart and fight and spirit of America. We will not fail. Our country will thrive and prosper again.

We stand at the birth of a new millennium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the earth from the miseries of disease, and to harness the energies, industries and technologies of tomorrow.

A new national pride will stir ourselves, lift our sights and heal our divisions. It's time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget, that whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots.

We all enjoy the same glorious freedoms and we all salute the same great American flag.

And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams and they are infused with the breath of life by the same almighty creator.

So to all Americans in every city near and far, small and large, from mountain to mountain, from ocean to ocean, hear these words: You will never be ignored again. Your voice, your hopes and your dreams will define our American destiny. And your courage and goodness and love will forever guide us along the way.

Together we will make America strong again, we will make America wealthy again, we will make America proud again, we will make America safe again.

And, yes, together we will make America great again.

Thank you.

God bless you.

And God bless America."

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: meself
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 01:34 PM

Do you really think he's going to make the trains run on time? So far, I've seen no indication that he and his disorganized rabble are capable of such efficiency. They seem utterly unprepared to take over what they've taken on. Just look at how they're bumbling the "let's get rid of Obamacare" business - they've only had eight years to get ready ....

I admit that in my heart I want to see this nasty person crash and burn, but in my head, I do hope he manages to bumble through without doing too much damage. I try not to think of the nuclear codes ....

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: meself
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 01:36 PM

And they say he wrote that ALL BY HIMSELF!! What a clever boy!

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 01:55 PM

Melania wrote her speech all by herself that by coincidence sounded like Michelle. If we are going to revise histoy we better start now.

I wish Schumer D and Blount R had not spoken so much about the American civil war this day.


real time...

Lots of flash bang grenades and pepper spray on 12th and Elm in DC, I heard at least 20 launches. There are only about 1,000 protesters.
Hard core protesters are dressed in all black and covered faces.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 03:06 PM

These are not the only people thinking of the War Between the States, by whatever name you call it, at a time like this.

Remember "Bleeding Kansas."

Roughly twenty years ago, I was driving cross-country. Being a ways south and west, in order to get to the turnpike that goes through Ohio and Pennsylvania, I had to go north as well as east, through Oklahoma and Missouri. Oklahoma had no surprises.

The only thing that happened during my drive through Missouri, is that my hackles went up and stayed up all along Interstate 44, until I took that bridge across the Mississippi River and put Missouri behind me. Oh, and I smelled something like smoke the whole time. In actual fact the place was calm and quiet, there was no obvious reason for me to be on edge.

Then years later, Ferguson, Missouri, goes up like a tinderbox.
This conflagration has been a long time coming. One hundred and fifty years ago, Kansas bled; today, Missouri burns. It will take a while, and probably a lot more trouble, before these fires are put out.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: meself
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 03:47 PM

I got a chill hearing one of the sycophants read to Chump an excerpt from a speech of Lincoln's to Congress - all about the massive changes and challenges coming, and the extraordinary measures they would require - i.e., the stretching and bending of the Constitution. The implication of the whole thing seemed to be that destroying Obamacare and deporting immigrants - whoops! sorry, I mean "illegals" - are as noble and necessary as abolishing slavery, and justify whatever has to be done to accomplish them. And that the nation is essentially in the same state of peril that it was in 1860 .....

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: meself
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 03:48 PM

Although I have hopes that Reign of Error may be a more accurate term for what's ahead ....

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: bobad
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 05:01 PM

When a new US president gives a speech, you'd expect that allies would be reassured and enemies afraid. With this one it's the reverse.

Garry Kasparov

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Thompson
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 05:21 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought American unemployment was already dropping like a stone in the last few years?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 05:25 PM

What the fuck is this garbage? Have you no cartoons to watch?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: meself
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 05:53 PM

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought American unemployment was already dropping like a stone in the last few years?"

Hey - don't be a stick in the mud! We don't need no stinkin' facts!

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 06:02 PM

smile time

For decades Don's Johns has supplied Mall events with portable rest rooms. This time they were ordered to cover up the word Don's with tape

Don's a little late for his parade, 2 hours late.

Blooper Announcements over loud speaker" If you have lost a child and you really want them back go to any law enforcement stand.

Ladies and gentlemen The Marine Corpse Band

Fearless leader saluted the New York Military Academy which was just purchased by a Chinese firm.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: meself
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 06:19 PM

Cartoons? Well, this comedy of terrors is close enough to a cartoon ...

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 06:45 PM

From CNN

The 49-year-old driver, David Wilcox, told CNN affiliate WGN-TV that a car scraped the side of his vehicle as he was about to make a left turn at a busy intersection.
"I heard a lady yell something about 'that guy is one of those Trump supporters,' " Wilcox told the station. "I turned and said to her, 'That has nothing to do with this.'"
The situation then apparently escalated as bystanders yelled anti-Trump taunts at Wilcox. The video shows Wilcox being knocked to the pavement, repeatedly being punched and kicked as a handful of people gather around him.



Any comments from a responsible Liberal viewpoint? I guess being accused of being a Trump voter is enough reason to beat someone.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: meself
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 06:55 PM

If this happened in the way it is recounted, then those anti-Trumpers behaved very badly. How's that?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 07:24 PM

Sounds about right. FACTS vs conjecture as to what someone MIGHT do in the future.





After being sworn in as the 45th President of the United States, Trump issued a call to arms and declared war on the ruling class.

"For too long, a small group in our nation's capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have bore the cost," Trump said. "Washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth."

"The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs," Trump noted. "And while they celebrated in our nation's capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land."

"That all changes starting right here and right now, because this moment is your moment."

At just over 15 minutes, Trump's address was short and to the point and free of the flowery prose that suggests a speechwriter far too eager to be remembered by history.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 08:05 PM

BB, you point that out as if the first stone was thrown by liberal bystanders, when Trump has been winding up people for months with his misbehavior and offensive remarks. And his supporters openly molest women and minorities with impunity, as it was modeled for them by Der Trump.

And as offensive as the man Trump is, I'm sure it is difficult for the opposition (not just liberal voters - a good many conservatives as well), to not act out their ire today. I hope none of the injury or property damage continues, it's not what Hillary supporters are about. At all.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Elmore
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 12:51 AM

A memorable day. The schmuck in chief was inaugurated which we, sore losers that we are, refused to witness on t.v. Later, and coincidentally I presume, my wife had a fainting spell. She seemed to recover, but an hour later, had what looked to my untrained eye to be a stroke. Called the ambulance, and spent several hours in hospital while she went through a battery of tests . The hospital folk said nothing about a stroke. Although she is in pain, her condition has improved. She has been kept in hospital for the night, while I'm at home drinking Scotch with Patron chasers. I tell you this because my dog and cat don't give a damn and because the hospital staff here in the North Georgia mountains, Trump fans all, are competent, loving people.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Thompson
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 01:16 AM

A piece on the US unemployment rate up to November from the Washington Post.

Quote: The U.S. economy added 178,000 jobs in November, while the unemployment rate fell to 4.6 percent, a level not seen since August 2007, according to government data released Friday morning. The first employment report since voters went to the polls last month shows an economy in strong shape as President-elect Donald Trump prepares to take office.

"It looks like firms are pretty bullish about what they're going to see in 2017 and are continuing their strong hiring of the past few years," said Steve Rick, chief economist at insurance company CUNA Mutual Group. "This is a good tailwind for the new administration."

and a quote later in the article:

"It is hard to imagine a more stark contrast between the economy that we are passing off to our successor and the economy we inherited," said Christopher Lu, the deputy secretary of the Labor Department.

American multinationals have certainly lifted the economies of China and India in the last three decades by manufacturing there;
Global poverty has fallen to a level inconceivable even 50 years ago.

Trump's stated plan to bring employment back to the haunted rust belts of America is a good one; I wonder if it will happen. Will the same multinationals that employ Chinese youth sleeping in multi-storey dormitories with suicide nets succeed in manufacturing in the United States and making profits; will the companies that employ Pakistani families like those who died in the garment factory fires of 2015 be welcomed to Baltimore's sorrowful streets?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: meself
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 02:39 AM

Trump's "plan"?? He has a plan?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 04:58 AM

I found the statement he has signed a proclamation for a day of patriotism disturbing. A one off celebration may be one thing, but people setting themselves up as judges of whether others are being patriotic enough opens no end of dangers.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Stu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 05:22 AM

Notice that Don said that they bleed the same red blood of "patriots". This infers if you're not signing up to the idea of patriotism, and especially Don's version of patriotism, they you're an enemy of your country. That is disturbing rhetoric indeed.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 02:40 PM

Let me be crystal clear about this

No One is demonstrating against Trump supporters outside his inner circle.

No one is gunning for bikers for Trump and their wall of meat.

There is no civil war planned by the left.

There is no hate campaign against TRUNP FANS who favor hate.


We rise against the strategists for Trump, for war, for private double dealing to enrich themselves with Trump approval.

We rise against Trump himself as a bully, liar and manipulator of hate and low information racists.


Elmore

To assume doctors and nurses from Georgia are all Trump fans, is presumptuous.

More importantly today, may your wife fully recover and feel well.



Stu you see as I do. I often ask myself how others can not see yet seem intelligent in other ways.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 02:52 PM

Anybody marching anywhere today?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:01 PM

Mrrzy, I'm in the Boston area but not marching. Just listening to the soundbites on the car radio. God bless the commuter rail operators. I guess the poor guys had those commuter trains on their usual Saturday/weekend schedule, that's to say fewer trains during the day. And there were so many riders converging on Boston from the 'burbs, using the commuter trains, that the train cars filled up to capacity.

The radio announcer described how the commuter rail people hurried to summon additional trains to pick up the riders left behind on the platforms as the regularly scheduled trains, their cars filled to capacity and maybe a little extra, rolled past the stations without stopping.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 04:06 PM

And here's the funny thing about life in a Boston exurb.

No, by the way, my town is not on a commuter line. People who live in my town have to drive their cars a fair distance and park, then board the commuter train. Unless they just drive the car. Anyway.

You know in whose company I have to watch my big mouth? the citizens who are voting in their very first presidential election, that's who. By which I mean, the YOUNGSTERS. Too young to have voted when the Bush dynasty was in the Oval office. These youngsters are going around with baseball caps that say MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN and spouting bile about Hillary.

Where do I encounter these youngsters, you ask? I'll tell you where: on the job, working their shifts. These aren't the wasters. These are the ones earning a minimum wage at the cash register.
Stops me in my tracks.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 04:40 PM

Whoa
Nelly
Madonna
!

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 07:10 PM

Boston is the most intensely racist city in the north from my 5 year experience.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 07:42 PM

I lived there 6 years, hey, I'll be back for my umdiddy-fifth reunion this May...

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 11:52 AM

A couple of Canadian women I know went down to Washington to march.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 01:49 PM

This is the perfect comment on Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: meself
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 02:31 PM

Kelly Anne Conway has come up with a new term for lies: "alternative facts" ... !! It would be hilarious if it weren't so scary.

So when Trump and Spicer say, for example, that the crowds at Trump's inauguration were the biggest in the whole history of crowds, they are not lying - they are presenting "alternative facts" ..... Un-freakin-believable.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Teribus
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 01:29 AM

So far all the violence and threats to resort to violence seem to have come from the side or purported liberalism, equality, tolerance and understanding. My, my just think what they would have done, how much further they would have gone, had it been their candidate that had succeeded?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 04:28 AM

"So far all the violence and threats to resort to violence seem to have come from the side or purported liberalism, equality, tolerance and understanding."
Funny - I could have sworn I heard the man himself say it was fine to walk up to any woman you fancied and sexually assault her
Maybe not terror or violence to some people, just boys being boys
Takes all sorts, I suppose!!
I would suggest that anybody who has taken to the streets is just reacting to that level of bestiality, especially as most of the demonstrations have been organised by women.
The "family values" contingent is awfully silent on that one!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 05:57 AM

On violence, US-style. Source: Centre for Research on Globalisation: "US has killed more than 20 million people in 37 'victim nations' since WWII."

This study reveals that U.S. military forces were directly responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths during the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the two Iraq Wars. The Korean War also includes Chinese deaths while the Vietnam War also includes fatalities in Cambodia and Laos.

The American public probably is not aware of these numbers and knows even less about the proxy wars for which the United States is also responsible. In the latter wars there were between nine and 14 million deaths in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan.

But the victims are not just from big nations or one part of the world. The remaining deaths were in smaller ones which constitute over half the total number of nations. Virtually all parts of the world have been the target of U.S. intervention.

The overall conclusion reached is that the United States most likely has been responsible since WWII for the deaths of between 20 and 30 million people in wars and conflicts scattered over the world.

To the families and friends of these victims it makes little difference whether the causes were U.S. military action, proxy military forces, the provision of U.S. military supplies or advisors, or other ways, such as economic pressures applied by our nation. They had to make decisions about other things such as finding lost loved ones, whether to become refugees, and how to survive.

And the pain and anger is spread even further. Some authorities estimate that there are as many as 10 wounded for each person who dies in wars. Their visible, continued suffering is a continuing reminder to their fellow countrymen.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 11:45 AM

Yes, Steve, let's all "Hop on Pop".

Your ridiculous rant conflating casualties/ victims/ with highly suspect concepts puts paid to the notion that "alternative facts" are originated by the Trump crew. They are a natural extension of the kind of nonsense you have posted (actually re-posted). You and Kellyanne Conway are an expression of the same notion: Pile on the factoids with any sort of logic you can twist to suit:
For a sample of the tortured logic, the "Center for Research on Globalization" includes the killings of the Khmer Rouge in that gargantuan figure.

I don't see you as exceptional. I see the Trump Effect as a sort of grand magnetic pull of grand nonsense from all sides to spawn an internet-wide shouting match that will become a Battle Royale which takes advantage of the diminishing attention span of the ruled from those who have 'seized' power.

It is an example of the attempt to swamp thought with information.

You are more a part of the problem than a part of the solution.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 12:25 PM

Not my rant, mate. Just a copy 'n' paste! I left you to do the ranting once you'd read it. 😂😂😂

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 12:42 PM

Elmore, that is scary about your better half.
I sincerely hope her recovery is all that you and she would desire. How frightening.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 01:42 PM

Donuel


"No One is demonstrating against Trump supporters outside his inner circle."

That is not what is seen on the video of the various marches, nor from the comments of those interviewed.




"No one is gunning for bikers for Trump and their wall of meat."

No, they are attacking innocent store owners and burning limos. Pity the poor driver who is just trying to make a living.





"There is no civil war planned by the left."

You have provided no evidence to indicate this- it looks like a revolution to me. Perhaps this was what those of us who did not vote for Obama should have done??? Would you have given us the approval you have these marchers?



"There is no hate campaign against TRUNP FANS who favor hate."

No, only against ALL of those even suspected of voting for Trump. Too bad the Liberals were not able to run a candidate that passed the "smell" test.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 02:01 PM

"You have provided no evidence to indicate this"
There isn't a iil war so isn't it up to those who make the suggesion to prove there is one planned?
It can be shown that Trump has targeted sections of the U.S. population - he is a racist and he is a misogynist - non whites and women make up the majority of the US population.
Antisemitic John Bannon has been appointed as part of Trump's team, so he can be said to targeting Jews.
He has claimed that there are two million CRIMINAL ALIENS.
Police are investigating a wave of alleged hate crimes against Muslims, Hispanic Americans, black people, ethnic minorities and the LGBT community in the wake of the US election.
In all, that sounds very much to me like instigation of hate and distrust against a massive majority of the American population - sounds like the road to Civil War to me.
In contrast - until such time this scumbag and his team make protesting illegal, those on the streets are within their legal rights to protest against any or all of the above and anything else that they feel is deserving of attention - we'll see what he and his team come up with.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 02:31 PM

They have every right to protest- and when they cross the line into illegal acts, they should be arrested and charged.
THIS APPLIES TO ALL SIDES- If you apply it to those supposed Trump supporters, you have to apply it to the Liberals and anarchists as well. The rule of law does not make exceptions ( Umless you are a Hillary supporter.)

" like instigation of hate and distrust against a massive majority of the American population " LIKE THOSE who voted for Trump?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 02:49 PM

Jim, you writted:

It can be shown that Trump has targeted sections of the U.S. population - he is a racist and he is a misogynist - non whites and women make up the majority of the US population.
Antisemitic John Bannon has been appointed as part of Trump's team, so he can be said to targeting Jews.

Pot? Kettle?