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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 09 Mar 17 - 08:25 AM Damn you |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Teribus Date: 09 Mar 17 - 08:25 AM Hammond's budget yesterday was a bit boring apart from the two really good digs he got in at Corbyn & Labour: 1: 'They don't call it the last Labour Government for nothing!' 2: That Corbyn and Labour are in such a deep hole that even Stephen Hawking has given up on them. No need to thank me Gnome just "adding sweetness and light" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 09 Mar 17 - 08:20 AM I Think that wins it .......... you lose ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 09 Mar 17 - 08:17 AM It's Do I now win the prize for silliest quote taken out of context from the original? :D tG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: bobad Date: 09 Mar 17 - 08:14 AM It's just that I can't think QED! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 09 Mar 17 - 07:58 AM It's just that I can't think down to your level. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: bobad Date: 09 Mar 17 - 07:43 AM I'm not certain I can fathom it. There is not much you can fathom from what we see in your posts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Mar 17 - 07:38 AM "I'm sure boobs thinks..." ❓ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Mar 17 - 07:35 AM Humph. Knew I'd be shat on for revealing that it was a PC moped. Damn! My brother had one as well. Foolishly, he attempted to ride it home from Worcester, where he was at college, back to Radcliffe. I had to borrow me dad's car to go and rescue him from Tarporley in Cheshire. We couldn't get the bike into the Mk 1 Escort. Can't remember what happened to it now. It's probably still hidden in a hedge in Cheshire. If anyone finds one in that vicinity, we want it back. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 09 Mar 17 - 07:28 AM I'm sure boobs (good name that) thinks there's logic in his post but I'm not certain I can fathom it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Mar 17 - 07:05 AM Hello, boobs! Is it OK if I call you "boobs?" After all, there did used to be a pair of you! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Mar 17 - 07:03 AM I SAT on the cheesecloth to soak up the bumsweat on warm days. Those plasticated saddles were deadly when moist. Brake hard and you could slip forward a foot and do yourself a nasty. Mind you, my brakes were busted so it couldn't happen to me. I regarded having no brakes as an essential safety feature. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: bobad Date: 09 Mar 17 - 07:02 AM I note that you still deny, or are unable to recognise the anti-Semitism reported. Of course they have to deny it Keith otherwise they would be admitting to their own. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 09 Mar 17 - 06:58 AM Or should that be freckled spit rant? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 09 Mar 17 - 06:55 AM Bet you used to pedal it in your sandals as well. And naming it PC is typical of your bearded, guardian reading ilk as well. Bet it was not PC before you "liberals" came along. :D tG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 09 Mar 17 - 06:54 AM Did you wear sandals and cheesecloth when you rode it. The public DEMAND an answer !!! Feckle, spit rant, feckle, spit, rant !!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Mar 17 - 06:48 AM "I note that you still deny, or are unable to recognise the anti-Semitism reported." Oh, you "note," do you? Well, it would take me all day to regale you with the things I've "noted" about you. I'm bored over/with/about/of you, Keith. Yawnyawnyawnyawnyawn. Please force me to lose as quickly as possible. I reckon mine was called a Honda 50PC or PC50, Dave. Are you making a baseless, spittle-flecked assertion that it wasn't a moped, Dave? Typical liberal-elitist, leftie, blame-it-all-on-Maggie-Thatcher UKIP lie, Dave! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Jim Carroll Date: 09 Mar 17 - 06:15 AM "If that is true, quote the "dishonesty."" You didn't link your Labour quote which missed the point of the article Teribus does it regularly - his unlinked quote on Labour's "support" for nuclear weapons was totally contradicted by what the article actually said You are both invererate liars - the major examples of yours are in denying what you have said and what you believe. said Your quoting of the marriage of Mohammed a thousand years ago in an argument about Muslim criminals was a deliberate attempt to link those crimes with the Muslim religion You are a racist sicko in the extreme So three possibes in a party of half a million make a serious problem - never mind what other people say How can that be vaguely possible Are they accusing Jews of blood sacrifice? You are a feckin' eejit Nobody has ever at any time said there is a serious problem, apart from those with a political axe to grind What they said that any accusation has to be treated seriously - it has, and so far, no serious problem haes been uncovered and until that so-called antisemitism is described and enumerated, it never will be. It is all in your tiny right-wing skull Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 09 Mar 17 - 06:15 AM Bless my soul, never seen one of those before. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 09 Mar 17 - 06:07 AM So, Keith, you never have to give links to the Guardian for the forum because Steve takes the Guardian. My, I AM flattered! I stated it was from "yesterday's Guardian" and quoted the text. That is why I thought a link unnecessary, but now you have it anyway. I note that you still deny, or are unable to recognise the anti-Semitism reported. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 09 Mar 17 - 05:45 AM Yay - found one! Still wrong though. Most NORMAL people would call this pedal free version a Honda 50. You lose... :D tG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Mar 17 - 05:27 AM Hey Dave, my machine was called a Honda 50 and it had pedals. Not that anyone other then Hercules unchained could have pedalled it anywhere! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Mar 17 - 05:24 AM So, Keith, you never have to give links to the Guardian for the forum because Steve takes the Guardian. My, I AM flattered! 😂 Woke up to dense fog this morning but, contrary to the forecast last night, the sun's burned it off in the last twenty minutes. Drove to Truro and back yesterday, over a hundred miles, in thick fog and drizzle. It boggles the eyes. Glorious mud abounds but it's warm. Spring! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 09 Mar 17 - 04:49 AM Jim, your "ongoing" link does not link to anything relevant to your claims. Both you and Teribus are regular mis - and out of context quoters - the two of you have not long given us an example of your dishonesty If that is true, quote the "dishonesty." You have just accused me of not linking to your on thousand year old smearing of the Muslim Culture. Another of your nasty, smearing lies. I have never, ever said anything critical of any religion, unlike every member of your little gang. Or will you produce a quote of me doing it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Jim Carroll Date: 09 Mar 17 - 04:43 AM "That should be enough for anyone, or you could just google a bit of the text." Both you and Teribus are regular mis - and out of context quoters - the two of you have not long given us an example of your dishonesty You have just accused me of not linking to your on thousand year old smearing of the Muslim Culture. You seem to demand of others what you are not prepared to offer yourself Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 09 Mar 17 - 04:39 AM Jim, Nobody has ever argued that there are no antisemites in Labour - three maybes don't make a "serious problem" by anybody's calculations. It clearly does Jim because numerous Labour people including the NEC and leadership all agree that it is a serious problem, and as we have just read in the Guardian it is not finished yet! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 09 Mar 17 - 04:34 AM Steve, what you should have done and give us the link so that we can read it for ourselves. I thought you took the Guardian. I stated it was from, "Guardian yesterday," That should be enough for anyone, or you could just google a bit of the text. As you clearly need to be spoon fed, https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/07/labour-members-may-be-expelled-over-claims-of-antisemitism-and-bullying |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Jim Carroll Date: 09 Mar 17 - 04:17 AM Whoops - wrong button! We know that the Tories were accused of islamophobia a year ago and that those accusations are ONGOING Nothing from you - nothing from the Toriss And you say you are not badmouthing Labour!!! My arse, you're not. If your concern for the vicims of racism and bigotry, you wouls speak out on behalf of all of them - Instead, you are an extreme bigot using three "may be" incidents to denigrate a party set up and dedicated to opposing racism and bigotry. Both dishonest and extremely hypocritical Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Jim Carroll Date: 09 Mar 17 - 04:09 AM "Bollocks Jim!" No Keith You have alleged a "serious problem" throughout this thread and come up with three members out of a Party of over half a million "may be expelled" Oh calamity!!! Nobody has ever argued that there are no antisemites in Labour - three maybes don't make a "serious problem" by anybody's calculations. Let's see what they "may be" expelled for and see how serious their antisemitism is, but you have a massive mountain to climb before you come up with a "serious problem I'm no sure exactly how accusing somebody of "working hand in hand with the media" can be construed as either antisemitism or bullying (politicians do it all the time), but let's see, shall we. We know that bullying has been a issue with the Tory Party, even to the poing od DRIVING SOMEBODY TO KILLING HIMSELF No Outrage and accusation from you there. We know that RACISM HAS BEEN AN ISSUE in the Tory Party for some time now - no enquiry - no howls of protest from you We know that ZAC GOLDSMITH ran an Islamophobic campaign against Sadiq Khhan during the London Mayoral Electyion No protest from you, no enquiry by the Tories. We know that the Tories were accused of islamophobia a year ago and that those accusations are |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 09 Mar 17 - 03:42 AM Wrong thread Dave, Akenaton posted on another thread that the Honda 50 was a Moped. In various guises over 87 million have been produced since 1958. 87 MILLION !!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 09 Mar 17 - 03:24 AM Pedant alert. The Honda 50 was not a moped. Strictly speaking, mopeds are driven by both an engine and by bicycle pedals, but in common usage and in many jurisdictions the term moped is used for similar vehicles including a scooter, though this is quite erroneous Just thought you would like to be corrected on such an important point of trivia :-) DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Steve Shaw Date: 08 Mar 17 - 05:11 PM I had a Honda 50 moped in the early 70s. Used to commute on it between Dudley, Tipton and Wolverhampton when I was at teacher training college. Didn't need a crash helmet in those days so I zoomed along on the thing, hair flowing behind, breeze in beard, looking like Jesus. No tax, no insurance, optional brakes. Jaysus, I loved it, except when the soddin' exhaust valve burned, which was approximately once a month. Happy days! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 08 Mar 17 - 03:50 PM According to Christy Moore his Honda 50 would do a 150 on a windy day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 08 Mar 17 - 03:31 PM Honda 50s had a very strange 'undocumented feature'. If you advanced the timing as far as it would go it pushed the top speed up to about 60. Ran like a crock of shit at the low end but the top speed was improved greatly. Just the sort of trivia that should be in a folk music forum :-) DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 08 Mar 17 - 03:22 PM Me and a mate bought a Honda 50 for £4 in 1969, £2 each. We used to go to school on it. The only hiccup really is that we were only 14 at the time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 08 Mar 17 - 03:00 PM At one time I had 2 V reg Hondas. One was a 1.5is (No nothing to do with ISIS before anyone starts) vtec Civic with a V at the beginning and the other was a 500CX custom with a V at the end. I hadn't planned it that way - Honest! I did the route as sung in Mr Fox's 'The Gypsy' on the bike and enjoyed it immensely. DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Steve Shaw Date: 08 Mar 17 - 02:51 PM Marc Wadsworth, a party activist who, at the launch of a report into Labour and antisemitism, challenged Jewish Labour MP Ruth Smeeth that she was working "hand in hand" with the media." Well, Keith, you could have helped the Guardian out a little by adding that Marc Wadsworth has been a prominent Labour campaigner for equal rights and against all forms of discrimination for decades, including fighting antisemitism, that he didn't know that Smeeth was a Jew and that Smeeth put on a deliberate act of histrionics, including fake tears, at the launch. Nothing like the "truth," the part-truth and nothing but the part-truth for misprepresenting, eh, Keith? And before you start bleating that it was the Guardian wot done it, do what you should have done and give us the link so that we can read it for ourselves. Not that you can't be trusted, of course...😂 Sorry to get serious again, folks, but there are things that really shouldn't be let pass. Now back to bikes! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Jim Carroll Date: 08 Mar 17 - 01:18 PM "What a great pity it is Jim that you and your pals just don't heed your own advice." I am quite happy to hang around to see yo two squirmingly humiliate yourself "President Trump and Mr Farage are both anti the current establishment, " They most certainly are not The establisment is based on support for the haves at the expense of the lesser well of It is utter nonsense that this is what these pair stand for The are using the discontent of ordinary people and challenging it away from those who are to blame for the state of Britain today - divide and rule is a classic tactic of the stablishment While we are blaming the less fortunate - in this case, immigrants and refugees, Trump and his billionaire friends are laughing all the way to the bank Utter madness to suggest that either of these fascists are in any way beneficial to Britain or America. The real beneficiaries are scum like LePen and Wilders, who are likely to push the world even nearer another holocaust, if they have their way Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 08 Mar 17 - 01:09 PM Damn! I knew I must have been ripped off paying £400 for it. I should have just nicked one like, presumably, your sister did. :D tG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 08 Mar 17 - 01:08 PM Jim, "was investigated and found to be groundless." Utter crap - there is no evidence that it was ever discussed ... The fforts you have made to probve the non existent Antisemitism in Labour makes you a total hypocrite Bollocks Jim! Guardian yesterday, "Labour members may be expelled over claims of antisemitism and bullying Jackie Walker, Marc Wadsworth and Paul Davis face top disciplinary body after being suspended from party" "Momentum's former vice-chair Jackie Walker has been formally referred to Labour's highest disciplinary body for possible expulsion over comments she made about Holocaust Memorial Day. Labour's national executive committee (NEC) also referred several other members who had been suspended from the party over the summer. Among those were: Paul Davis, the vice-chair of the local party in Wallasey, who was referred over allegations of bullying and intimidation during the leadership challenge by local MP Angela Eagle; and Marc Wadsworth, a party activist who, at the launch of a report into Labour and antisemitism, challenged Jewish Labour MP Ruth Smeeth that she was working "hand in hand" with the media." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 08 Mar 17 - 12:21 PM I refer you to my post regarding twisted knickers, seems like they're still in a knot. Love you, kissy, kissy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Teribus Date: 08 Mar 17 - 11:50 AM " Just like winding people up I suppose when I've got a little time to waste." - Raggy Precisely, but you do seem to have an awful lot of time to waste. On the "winding people up" Raggy, how come you're so poor at it? I mean for someone educated at Oxford? Thanks the picture of your bike Gnome, my little sister had one vaguely similar to that in the late 60s. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 08 Mar 17 - 11:30 AM If I considered the c**p that goes on here to be of any importance I may have maded a greater effort, but seeing as it is so facile, an has such a low base level I really can't be arsed. Just like winding people up I suppose when I've got a little time to waste. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 08 Mar 17 - 10:10 AM It's not always a fishing rod, Raggy :-D DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Teribus Date: 08 Mar 17 - 10:10 AM Whose knickers are in a twist Raggy? Certainly not mine. Do you ever review your own posts Raggy? You post very frequently yet never seem to say anything, even when you try to stay on topic, when what you say is ill-informed and incorrect. I take it that you do realise that that place in that college in Oxford was a waste don't you - you robbed some perfect stranger of a chance in a lifetime as I am sure they would have put that education to far better use than you seem to have done judging by your input here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 08 Mar 17 - 10:03 AM Actually teri it's very considerate of you to include stabilisers, he might need those when cycling home from the pub ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Raggytash Date: 08 Mar 17 - 10:00 AM It needs a holder for a fishing rod, Gnomes invariably have fishing rods. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 08 Mar 17 - 09:59 AM See, Teribus, you can have fun! You should try it more often :-) Here is an odd coincidence for you though. One of my bikes is a Ridgeback Attache! Good bikes. Mine needs some fettling but once done it should be perfectly rideable again. Thanks for reminding me. DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Teribus Date: 08 Mar 17 - 09:49 AM The Gnome's new bike: Gnome goes cycling I thought the mental picture of the Gnome toddling about the hills and dales with a knapsack on his back was funny enough - but him on a bike!!! Priceless, just priceless. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II From: Dave the Gnome Date: 08 Mar 17 - 09:45 AM Adolph Hitler was also purported to be anti-establishment but as a socialist who supports nationalism I suppose you also admire him. Trump and Farage are as establishment as they come. They are selling you the same lie that political con men have been selling for millennia and sadly you are still buying it. They have your interest at heart as much as Genghis Khan did. Socialist my arse. DtG |