Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 02:23 PM

so what?how does that make the bbc awards of any use,or necessary

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST,keith price
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 02:21 PM

Dick, Percy Grainger met Joseph Taylor in 1905 when Mr Taylor won first prize (10 shillins and six pence) in the folk song competition at Brigg Lincolnshire.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 02:00 PM

They are observed facts, thus they form my opinion. We shall not agree on this, so no point talking further.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 01:56 PM

These are your opinions not facts, my opinion is that it has no relevance to folk music. I am not being dogmatic what dogmas am i following here?I certainly get whats going on and I disapprove. I am not going to stand on one side and see the music [which i have been involved in for over 40 years, become a cross between tin pan alley and a performing circus].
I am not alone guest DTM appears to share the same view.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST,Morris-ey
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 01:45 PM

It has every relevance to the increasing popularity of folk music, which is, to some extent, about the cult of personality insofar as it is promoted to gain a wider audience.

You don't like it? Fair enough.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 01:41 PM

I don't think you get it at all Good Soldier. Pop is not totally about the cult of personalities, many pop musicians are very talented musicians. These contests and competitions certainly have great relevance to many of the people who participate in them.Try not to be so dogmatic Good Soldier, there is a great world of music to be enjoyed.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 01:29 PM

Meaningless, Because it has no relevance to folk music,and should have no relevance to the UKfolk scene folk music is not pop music, it is not about the cult of personalities, it is about people being creative, and producing home made music for pleasure,whilst trying to maintain a good standard, it should not be about a star system that is dreamed up and perpetuated by promoters and agents and the media. this sort of nosense where performerspart of a folk circus and take their turns like performing monkeys is reminiscent of celebrity tv talent shows

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 01:28 PM

Many people in small "grass roots" communities tale the annual fiddling, singing and dancing contests very seriously indeed. Some look forward to these evens with great anticipation and both children and adults practise for months in order to compete. I would say that that that sort of event is vital to many grassroots communities.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 01:11 PM

"But competition has ALWAYS been and continues to be a vital part of a lot of folk music culture. Singing competitions, fiddle competitions, piping competitions, etc at festivals.."
   no. it is not vital in any way. dictionary definition of vital..absolutely necessary; essential.
These awards have nothing to do with maintaining a high standard at grass roots level, and are utterly meaningless.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 01:05 PM

I have no problems with competitions and awards. Guest RA is quite right , there have always been awards and competitions in folk music I listen to a lot of pop. much of it is very good. I don't understand why some people feel they need to demonize it.
   In any case, I do hope Shirley Collins wins.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 12:52 PM

what a stupid idea, this sort of ridiculous nonsense smacks of the pop world and should be stopped immediately.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST,RA
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 12:42 PM

Guest DTM - "Personally, I don't like folk music being turned into a 'competition'".

But competition has ALWAYS been and continues to be a vital part of a lot of folk music culture. Singing competitions, fiddle competitions, piping competitions, etc at festivals...

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST,Morris-ey
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 12:29 PM

Shirley Collins will win both categories she is in not least because she has done nothing for 30 years and is still alive, has produced a subtle return to almost unproduced sound, but also because old school, imho, is often better than new skool...

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST,DTM
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 11:57 AM

Personally, I don't like folk music being turned into a 'competition'.
Why? Because it's against it's very ethos, IMO.
I think it's fine to recognise exceptional cases with a 'lifetime achievement award' at some sort of ceremony however, pitching one artist against another is plastic showbiz straight out of Hollywood.
Bin it please.

(Tin hat firmly on)

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST,mayomick
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 05:52 AM

Al Stewart plays acoustic guitar so he certainly deserves the award. His songs are pretty long as well from what I remember lol.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 05:31 AM

That was me again.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 05:30 AM

The awards show on Wednesday 5th April will also include the presentation of the Lifetime Achievement Award to Al Stewart.

This year's inductee into the Radio 2 Folk Awards Hall of Fame will be the legendary Woody Guthrie.

And 10 celebs you didn't know were folk fans;
Steven Mangan
Martin Freeman
Bruce Dickinson
Stephen Fry
Sir Terry Pratchett
Sir David Attenborough
Graham Coxon
David Gray
Ruth Jones
Charles Dance

To be honest, I haven't spotted many at our local folk club. Let's see which are chosen to present the prizes this year.

I can agree with the choice of Woody Guthrie. And I grew up strumming along to Al Stewart and Jimmy Page.

But I recently bought an Al Stewart compilation CD to play in the car. It was the longest journey in my life.

And surely there must be an award for Jo Cox.

Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 05:05 AM

This is really window dressing for British folk scene.

It's difficult - if not impossible - to say that one performer/CD is better than another.

The awards should be shared more widely. If you win something this year, someone else should get it next year.

Subject: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations
From: Long Firm Freddie
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 04:19 AM

Shirley Collins up for Folk Singer of the Year and Best Album for Lodestar:

BBC Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 Nominations:

Folk Singer of the Year

Daoiri Farrell
Jim Causley
Kris Drever
Shirley Collins

Best Duo

Josienne Clarke and Ben Walker
Megson
O'Hooley and Tidow
Ross Ainslie and Ali Hutton

Best Group

9Bach
Breabach
The Furrow Collective
The Gloaming

Best Album

Jarlath Henderson - Hearts Broken, Heads Turned
Jim Moray - Upcetera
Martin Green - Flit
Shirley Collins - Lodestar
Songs of Separation - Songs of Separation

Horizon Award

Daoiri Farrell
Fara
Ninebarrow
Talisk

Musician of the Year

John McCusker
John McSherry
Mohsen Amini
Rachel Newton

Best Original Track

Fragile Water by Nancy Kerr
If Wishes Were Horses by Kris Drever
Roll Away by Martin Green feat. Adam Holmes
Sounds of Earth by Jim Moray

Best Traditional Track
Courting Is a Pleasure by Jarlath Henderson
Echo Mocks The Corncrake by Songs of Separation
Van Diemen's Land by Daoiri Farrell
Willie Taylor by Julie Murphy

BBC Radio 2 Young Folk Award

Amelia Coburn
Charlie Grey and Joseph Peach
Eryn Rae
Josie Duncan and Pablo Lafuente

Folk Awards

LFF