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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Teribus
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 03:20 AM

Well Shaw in your parlance it could have been 72 sardines.

But seriously though folks, what is stereotypical about the claim? It is stated in Hadith number 2,516 in the collection known as the Sunan al-Tirmihdi which reads:

"The least [reward] for the people of heaven is 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome of pearls, aquamarine and ruby."

So tell me Shaw as an expert on Islamism which of the Hadith are to be believed and which discounted?


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Teribus
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 03:24 AM

By the way Shaw, on the ability, or inability to answer straight questions, how come you never answered the one from bobad related to this supposed leverage Jews exert that enables them to control the government of the most powerful nation on the planet?


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 04:02 AM

So still no answer from poobad. I suppose you have answered for him though, Teribus. Massood must have been thinking about the 72 virgins because that is what Hadith number 2,516 says and all Muslim are thinking about that all the time. Just like all Christians are thinking about the acts of the Apostles and all Jews are thinking about the book of psalms all the time. Shame for us atheists that have nothing to think about.

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Teribus
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 05:13 AM

"Massood must have been thinking about the 72 virgins because that is what Hadith number 2,516 says and all Muslim are thinking about that all the time." - A Gnome

Massood? Thought it was Masood but nevertheless, perhaps you should heed bobad's advice and acquaint yourself on the difference between "Islam" and "Islamism" - had you already done that, or had already been aware of the distinctions you would never have posted the utter tripe quoted above.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Teribus
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 05:20 AM

"Shame for us atheists that have nothing to think about." - Gnome

Never thought of that before Gnome although it should have been obvious by the content of what you and your pals post, which seems these days to centre around your next meal - ever thought of joining a Shanty group Gnome? You could give 'em all lessons on "Rolling Home".


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 05:54 AM

So then, Teribus, how does the difference between Islam and Islamism explain the 72 virgins comment made by poobad? IE

Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad - PM
Date: 01 Apr 17 - 06:07 AM

he now gets to share the experience of his innocent victims.

Not to mention the pleasure of 72 virgins in paradise.


And, nah, I tried a shanty group. It was quite enjoyable but more suited to people used to being told what to do by a leader. I take it you are in one?

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 06:13 AM

Cor, Teribus knows the name of a folk song! And here's me, going from his posting record, thinking that he only comes here to be bad-tempered below the line!

I asked bobad a string of questions. He has evaded every single one. He seemed to be asserting that the Westminster killer was thinking of his 72 virgins. How did bobad know that? Can you tell us, Teribus? So you found it in the good book. Good for you. The bible says that Methuselah lived to 963 years old. And somebody or other got turned into a pillar of salt. Do you think every Christian believes that, Teribus? 😂


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 06:56 AM

"...how come you never answered the one from bobad related to this supposed leverage Jews exert that enables them to control the government of the most powerful nation on the planet?"

Did he really ask me that as a question? When? I have said nothing about "Jews" exerting leverage on anyone. I have stated the fact that pro-Israel lobby groups, in particular but not exclusively AIPAC in America, do exert influence on politicians. Though they are unelected, they have good access to politicians and can help to fund campaigns, withdraw funding and brief against politicians. This may all depend on the politician taking a favourable stance towards Israel. Now these lobby groups are by no means exclusively Jewish. Labour Friends Of Israel is a lobby group containing many members who are not Jews. Many members of AIPAC are non-Jewish business people. Look it up. As you are nit-picking over Islam/Islamic/Muslim, perhaps you'd like to clear your own head first as to the difference between "pro-Israel lobby group" and "Jew." You will never in your little life catch me saying that Jews exert leverage, control the media, conspire to run big corporations, etc. Why not? Because it isn't true, I've always known it isn't true, and I find such assertions to be objectionable. Antisemitic, in fact. Clear enough for you?   

By the way, I have nothing against lobby groups in principle. But there is no doubt that a few overstep what should be their remit, which is simply to put their case persuasively to those in power. No blackmail, no threats, no baksheesh. Do you doubt that the NRA oversteps its remit?


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Teribus
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 07:09 AM

Again to both Shaw and our little fat gnome I would recommend that you take heed of bobad's good advice and then you would know why Khalid Masood having acted as he did would believe implicitly in the promises detailed in the Hadith.

Pleased to see that Abu Hamza's son stripped of his British Passport will not be able to return to the UK after his spell fighting in Syria.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 07:57 AM

He seemed to be asserting that the Westminster killer was thinking of his 72 virgins.

That's a lie Shaw. If it isn't produce the quote.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 08:05 AM

So still no answer from poobad.

I can't answer a question about something that doesn't exist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Stu
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 08:17 AM

They're at it again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 08:21 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 01 Apr 17 - 08:05 PM

You haven't "shown" anything, I've neither deflected nor wriggled, I'm really focused here, and I ask you again. What did you mean by your 72 virgins reference with regard to the Westminster killer? Do you know that that was in his head? That's what you said. So explain yourself. How did you know that's what he was thinking? Or were you indulging in the well-known "72 virgins" Muslim stereotype? We know how you hate stereotypes, you know, about Jews conspiring to run the world, etc. You even have a go at us when that isn't what we think at all. But here you are, indulging in a stereotype regarding the people you clearly hate so much, Muslims. What have you got to say about that? Or are you going to tell us now that you suddenly love Muslims after all? Do you think that every Muslim man thinks he's going to get 72 virgins when he arrives in paradise?   Do you think that the Westminster killer thought that? If so, how do you know? Can you read this or is it too long for you? Can you answer straight questions? There's always a first time, and we're here waiting to forgive you... 😂


You will note that I have not used the word Muslim in describing Masood, I have called the man what he has been described as by authorities, a jihadist. Shaw, on the other hand is making a linkage between Muslims and jihadists. He would call that "Islamophobia".


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 09:02 AM

You mentioned his 72 virgins, you idiot. Perhaps you know of another religion apart from Islam that the rest of us have never heard of that teaches about 72 virgins. Now answer the questions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 09:07 AM

Show me where I said he was thinking about his 72 virgins. You cannot because I did not say that. You are a liar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 11:15 AM

The only advantage of a female virgin, let alone 72 of them, is if you have a 2 inch penis.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 11:19 AM

Abdul would avoid the humiliation of comparison.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 11:29 AM

Yesterday, 6.07 am:

Bobad quoting Teribus:
"he now gets to share the experience of his innocent victims."

Bobad:
"Not to mention the pleasure of 72 virgins in paradise."

Short memory, bobad! 😂


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 11:34 AM

Lack of comprehension Shaw?

Nah, more likely your usual gambit to misrepresent and lie, right?

BTW, have you yet learned the difference between a Muslim and an Islamist?


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 11:57 AM

I've merely reproduced your post. Tell me again - did you mention the 72 virgins with regard to the Westminster killer?   Seems that you did!


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 12:17 PM

Aha, so now the question changes from:

how do you know that the killer believed that he would have access to 72 virgins?

to

did you mention the 72 virgins with regard to the Westminster killer?

Yes, I obviously did mention that as you have so keenly observed but the only one's who have mentioned anything about the jihadist believing that he would be rewarded with 72 virgins in paradise seem to be you and the Gnome.

Funny that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 12:27 PM

Show me where I said he was thinking about his 72 virgins. You cannot because I did not say that. You are a liar.

Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad - PM
Date: 01 Apr 17 - 06:07 AM

he now gets to share the experience of his innocent victims.

Not to mention the pleasure of 72 virgins in paradise.


Funny old world isn't it poobad. Normal people tend to remember what went on more than 10 minutes ago.

Teribus - Again to both Shaw and our little fat gnome I would recommend that you take heed of bobad's good advice and then you would know why Khalid Masood having acted as he did would believe implicitly in the promises detailed in the Hadith.


So, how does this prove that Masood was thinking of 72 virgins when he mowed all those people down and stabbed a policeman? Simple enough question.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 12:46 PM

Gnomie seems to suffer from the same lack of comprehension as Shaw, or is he just playing Shaw's game of misrepresentation and lies?

So me saying Not to mention the pleasure of 72 virgins in paradise. to you means he was thinking about his 72 virgins.?

I think both you and Shaw would benefit from a remedial course in reading comprehension.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 01:36 PM

Ah, OK. So if your comment about 72 versions was not a reference to him thinking about them, what was it a reference to? Was you thinking about 72 virgins? Just what was it a reference to? I must say that the comment was rather out of place so it is little wonder that some may not understand it. As you seem to think I suffer from lack of comprehension maybe you can enlighten me. If it is at all possible to explain your rather curious thought processes that is.

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 01:41 PM

It was me saying that he would be rewarded with 72 virgins in paradise.

What don't you understand about that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 01:42 PM

And you really believe that do you?

You are even dafter than I thought.

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 01:47 PM

Well, I have heard it from jihadists so if that's what they believe who am I to say they are wrong to believe it. I respect everyone's beliefs whether I accept them or not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 03:18 PM

So it is jihadists that you heard it from? Interesting. How many do you know? Anyway, seeing as you are so acceptant, I just happen to have a business proposition for you. There is this Nigerian prince who died intestate. He left £40,000,000 in a bank account...

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 03:18 PM

You're barking bloody mad, bobad, I know that much. A right bloody unhappy mess. Roast lamb tonight, Dave, shoulder on the bone, in the oven for nine hours at 120, whacked up for the last twenty minutes as we all lust after the skin. Roast spuds, Mrs Steve's gravy (no bloody Bisto in our house), cauliflower, purple sprouting, carrots and mint sauce natch. Beat that. No wonder these foreigners are so bloody miserable!


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 03:26 PM

Funnily enough, Steve, lamb at Gnome towers too. Little tiny piece though but very nice all the same. Served with dauphinoise spuds and cauliflower cheese. Cheat ones ready done by Morrison's!

Cheers

D.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 05:07 PM

How many do you know?

I see you're learning to misrepresent, lie and obfuscate from the master.

Did I say I knew any?

For your edification here are some ways to hear about things: one can hear about things from the written word, there is also the recorded word and nowadays there are a multitude of videos available to inform yourself. You should try it sometime.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 05:20 PM

Where I said that I don't know any jihadists I should have added but I know several Muslims who are committed to, at great risk to themselves, fighting against extremism and radicalization in their religion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 05:36 PM

Go away, bobad, you bloody idiot. Just go through your posts of the last couple of days. You've made a complete arse of yourself. Have fun with the rest of your life.

Sounds good to me, Dave. We had to push the boat out as we had offspring, partner and good friend round. Cracking good do it was. Eeee, lad!


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 07:13 PM

Have you educated yourself on the difference between Muslims and Islamists yet Shaw? If you need help don't hesitate to ask I'm always willing to help lead the uninformed out of the darkness of ignorance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 07:24 PM

You couldn't help a frog out of a shallow pond. You're totally bonkers. I'm still waiting to hear about what religion apart from Islam has the expectation of 72 virgins in paradise. My God, how you've screwed up !


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 08:15 PM

Still haven't figured it yet, I see. Well, keep working at it, not everyone has the same ability.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 08:26 PM

You have totally screwed up. Caught lying. Forgot that you mentioned the virgins. Pretended you hadn't marked the bloke as a Muslim. You're a fool. What kind of a man are you? We are on your case, pal. Your credibility is totally shot. Just read your own posts in this thread over the last couple of days. I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't have the balls to do it. You should be ashamed of yourself. Nighty night!


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 09:40 PM

You're losing it, take a break.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 09:53 PM

Say goodnight to the folks, Gracie...


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Teribus
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 02:26 AM

"The only advantage of a female virgin, let alone 72 of them, is if you have a 2 inch penis." - Donuel

We'll just have to take your word for that I suppose - based on personal experience Donuel?


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 06:36 AM

How to spot a terrorist

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 07:00 AM

Pakistani Islamist Jihad for 72 Virgins


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 04:15 AM

Anyone care to speculate on the motivation of the St. Petersburg bomber?


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 04:43 AM

No.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 05:12 AM

Sod off, Keith.


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 08:09 AM

"Anyone care to speculate on the motivation of the St. Petersburg bomber?"
Anybody care to speculate on the motivation of the just reported chemical attack by Russian planes supporting Assad, on civilians in Syria?
Wonder if Andrew Neil wil "slam" that one?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 08:14 AM

Failed jihadi suicide bombers tell of the rewards they missed out on: 72 virgins in heaven


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: bobad
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 08:19 AM

Anybody care to speculate on the motivation of the just reported chemical attack by Russian planes supporting Assad, on civilians in Syria?

Let me see - it's all about Israel - right Carroll?


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 08:35 AM

"Let me see - it's all about Israel - right Carroll?"
Your guess is as good as mine Bobad - if you insist, I suppose it must be
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Andrew Neil slams jihadist!!!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 09:43 AM

You really do have a fetish for these 72 virgins don't you poobad?

:D tG


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