BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 04:08 PM

Is there a hint of Kathy Griffin left in this conversation?

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 01:22 PM

Iains thinks ad hominin means "with hominy grits"

No it doesn't, it is what you do with all your posts.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 10:53 AM

This is a summing up of what Pilger has to say about Syria - a simple comment of the DOUBLE STANDARDS being applied
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 10:10 AM

"why does his Syrian narrative differ from yours."
It doesn't
Nowhwre does Pilger deny the atrocities that are taking place in Syria - he points out that there have been attempts by the west to undermine Syria as a multicultural society for decades
A little different from from your denying that the State terrorism has een invented
Perhaps you might link us to anything that Pilger says which remotely coincides with your claims
This is what Pilger said on Assad's use f chemicals - not denials jut putting it into context
"Whether or not Bashar al-Assad or the "rebels" used gas in the suburbs of Damascus, it is the US not Syria that is the world's most prolific user of these terrible weapons. In 1970, the Senate reported, "The US has dumped on Vietnam a quantity of toxic chemical (dioxin) amounting to six pounds per head of population".
I have seen generations of young children with their familiar, monstrous deformities. I have seen them in Iraq, too, where the US used depleted uranium and white phosphorous, as did the Israelis in Gaza, raining it down on UN schools and hospitals. No Obama "red line" for them. No showdown psychodrama for them."
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Iains
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 09:41 AM

Jim stop babbling inanities and just answer the question. If Pilger is such a font of infallible reportage, why does his Syrian narrative differ from yours.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 09:06 AM

"Jim if you think that I am talking down to you then you obviously have a severe inferiority complex"
You talk down to everybody Iains - a noticeable trait from day one
" spittle flecked rants."
And you don't even have the imagination to invent your own invective - that's one of Terib=us's inventions gradually being taken up by his motley crew of jackals
None of you have had either the bottle to tackle those "spittle flecked rants" or supply information of your own though Ake has had the honesty to admit his dyslexia as say he doesn't understand the massed of documented evidence I have linked to
Grow up for ***** sake - your childish behaviour is beyond belief
This is a debating forum - not a primary school yard
"How do you explain his Syrian narrative differing so greatly from yours?
"Do I really have to defend something that is a world-wide fact accepted by Governments, press repots, eye-witness accounts and human rights agencies alike and dates back a few decades
Syria is a terrorist state that habitually used torture and murder to maintain control and sytematicall massacred its people on the streets of Homs and elsewhere - we know the latter 'cause we watched it happening nightly on tele
How do you explain that all you have ever come up with comes from a website set up by a Russian oligarch?
Jaysus - it really is like being in a schoolyard
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Mr Red
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 08:41 AM

I won't be seeing the image either.

But given the rhetoric from the man himself he cannot hold the moral high ground.

violence begets violence. Inane stupidity, begets inane stupidity. By his own mouth we hear him threatening all sorts, for him this is looking in the mirror!

Maybe the commedienne is aiming too high, or we think she should be talking bollocks!

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Iains
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 07:43 AM

Jim if you think that I am talking down to you then you obviously have a severe inferiority complex accompanying your spittle flecked rants.
   By the way Jim Carrol quotes:- "Pilger is one of the word's leading journalists"
and
"Pilger's article makes sense and his reputation for honest and unbiased reporting as a HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND RESPECTED JOURNALIST with masses of international experience stands him in good stead."
How do you explain his Syrian narrative differing so greatly from yours?

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 06:57 AM

Iains
Political Satire has long been a means of expressing opinions about those you don't like or agree with and censorship has just as long been a method of quashing those opinions
You and your ilk have whined about suppression of opinion in countries whose governments you don't support yet here you go objecting to voices against monsters like Trump
The Third Reich would have offered you pair jobs for life.
I ask again - why is it permissible for extremist right-wing satirists like darlin' of the Klan Coulter to propose poisoning opponents and not one satarising the beheading of Trump?
This is the sick double standards of the extremist right gone viral.
It is 'conspiracy theorish' in the extreme to suggest that Griffin was being anything other than satirical and the day you ban satire, you have a fascist state
Please stop talking down to people - you really aren't a bright-enough button on the SS uniform to do that convincingly
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Iains
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 04:21 AM

Greg F

"Not at all - it demonstrates that you are incapable of logical thought and prefer to subscribe to paranoid conspiracy theories"
Even with your unique brain processes I fail to see any link between what you posted above and my discussion of A severed head of Trump and the threat to get at Barron instead of Trump. Your statement is an unsubstantieted fiction. mine documented fact.
Did you mean to post your comment elsewhere?
Are you on some illegal substances?
Do your demented ramblings finally mean you have lost the plot?

Answers on a post card please.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 04:14 AM

Just to put Griffiths's cartoon in CONTEXT
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 03:14 AM

"HER severed head as a trophy."
Just an incitement to poison those you disagree with
Obviously you prefer poisioning to beheading.
You always have regarded opposition to Trump as undemocratic incitement - that's wy you refer to us who oppose your views as "liberals" defined by you as "fascists".
You really would be the shape of things to come if the likes of Trump and LePen were unopposed and allowed to have their way.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: akenaton
Date: 05 Jun 17 - 02:50 AM

Don, please try to be fair......the picture under discussion cannot be referred to as freedom of speech. It has gone beyond the pale, into the realms of incitement.
As a long time opponent of Mrs Clinton and her views on foreign policy I would never condone the publishing of a photograph containing HER severed head as a trophy.

The comments by you, Acme and others here bear no relation to the liberalism which you say that you promote.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 09:01 PM

Good cartoon premise Greg. I see a pipe from K st. , Russian Embassy and US Treasury draining into a Cyprus Bank Trump account.


We laugh at our dark partisan humor, they laugh at theirs but what I see with a telescope of time is everything that Iains and Ake say about liberal comedians is WORD FOR WORD what Nazi sympathizers said about the Jews in 1938 Germany.

If freedom of speech is a menace, as Ake and Iains say,
they should not practice it.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 06:54 PM

Now now, he never said what he was going to DO with the drainage....

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: gillymor
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 06:38 PM

The old fraud who vowed to "drain the swamp" is replacing it with a cesspool.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 06:34 PM

The fact that Griffin stated publicly she would go for Trump via Barron, long before the severed effigy was held up for public view, just goes to demonstrate how perverted her so called humour really is.

Not at all - it demonstrates that you are incapable of logical thought and prefer to subscribe to paranoid conspiracy theories - for which no evidence exixts; e.g. "correlation does not imply causation".

Now, about that Lee Enfield .303.............

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 06:31 PM

You've completely lost sight of this kind of abuse of power: Lobbyist Ethics Waivers for Trump Administration.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 06:20 PM

"I think we can now all see where ake's loyalties lie."
Bit more than that Dave
Ake would "see to" anybody who says anything that he disagrees with
Doesn't get more fundemental than that
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 06:04 PM

Well said, Acme. I'm gone...

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 04:22 PM

Keep it up boys, Trump is ecstatic to have this new shiny object distract you from his income taxes, from James Comey, from his free passes to all of his corrupt cabinet and White House staff to keep participating in their special interest activities and not sell off their conflicted investments.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Iains
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 02:58 PM

Greg F. Try to engage your brain and get the synapses firing. The fact that Griffin stated publicly she would go for Trump via Barron, long before the severed effigy was held up for public view, just goes to demonstrate how perverted her so called humour really is. If you think that is admirable,it merely demonstrates the kind of person you are- like those that would put the rights of foxes above those of children.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 02:06 PM

It's OK for Coulter to poison liberals but outrageous for Griffin to behead Conservatives. I think we can now all see where ake's loyalties lie. Socialist my arse.

Whoops. Sorry. Said arse again. He will get all excited again now.

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: gillymor
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 01:58 PM

Ms. Griffin's attempt at humor may have seemed cruel and barbaric but at least we can be fairly certain she's never ridden to hounds.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 12:39 PM

Oh, and for the record, I'd bet Kathy Griffin could probably take Barron.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 12:37 PM

I'll let you boys play on with Jim, as he likes a good bit of trollishness. It's getting too desperate and silly in here for me.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 12:36 PM

Please do not give us further proof of your stupidity.

That's TRUMP'S stupidity, not mine, Boyo.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 12:35 PM

Sorry, Iains - that Brightfart screed is about an off-hand comment over five months ago. Try to keep up, will ya? How's that Lee-Enfield holding up, by the way?

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Iains
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 12:32 PM

Greg, Please do not give us further proof of your stupidity.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Iains
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 12:30 PM

Jeri. You miss the point entirely. Any public figure is wide open to criticism, abuse, ridicule. It goes with the territory. When it involves their children I believe a line is crossed. As do those that have cancelled her engagements.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/06/02/flashback-kathy-griffin-happy-deliver-beat-barron-trump/
If you feel that the above is legitimate target for comedy, I pity you.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 12:27 PM

Or Trumpists who encourage assaulting reporters, of knifing Muslims & Mexicans or............

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 12:13 PM

And your accusatons of the left supporting terrorism remain unqualified lies
"As I have been saying for years, these people are a real menace."
Exept the ones who advocate "poisoning liberal judges" of course
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 12:03 PM

I think this particular "comedian" has psychological problems, I didn't know she had included the wean as well.

The hatred seems to be pretty deep Iains, when these people stoop so low......the irony is that they purport to be liberals ....tolerant in every way....as long as it's their fucking way!

As I have been saying for years, these people are a real menace.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 11:51 AM

Nope, that's not it. You're now supporting political correctness. It's not about funny/not funny as I don't think it's illegal to make a bad joke. "Promoting terrorism" is sort of like "promoting racism" or "promoting sexism" or you-name-it.

It's about whose ox is gored.

She'll be back, but... she's not "gone" if the "conservatives" have a big bunch in their panties and can't stop talking about here, is she?

You somehow think that being controversial and talked-about is bad for a comedian?

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Iains
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 11:31 AM

Jeri. If you check the record you will find that griffin said she would not bother going for Trump, she would go for Barron. That is about as sick as it gets. That is why CNN and other venues decided to drop her.
Now she bleats she is being bullied. Perhaps you support her going for a child as your hatred of Trump rules out any other considerations?

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: robomatic
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 11:20 AM

I'll never forget a comment I heard live off the radio from Boston, about a different President, but applicable as never before:

"President __________ couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel!"

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 11:18 AM

For the record
"and the promotion of terrorism." - "Most left wing "comedians" seem to be in the same trough"
It is off-the-wall lying that fucks up these discussions
Terrorism is almost entirely the domain of religion which Ake permananly "shall I, shan't I" agonises about and right-wing nutters like Breivik and Assad, who our hero has already declared his support for
"The left" do not support terrorism in any way shape or form.
What's the point of making statements like this if they are not designed to destroy the open discussion he has not long said is necessary for these subjects?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 10:58 AM

A reminder.
"We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee," Coulter said"
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 10:56 AM

"political correctness" and the promotion of terrorism.."
How does "poisoning Trump's enemies" fit into this and who is promoting terrorism - only answer if you're "not busy" or if you "understand the question" of course.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 10:35 AM

There's a big difference between "political correctness" and the promotion of terrorism....or at least the toleration of such.

The most telling fault? That it was not in the slightest funny.

Is there anyone crass enough to admit that they thought it was?
It was of course done as a promotional gimmick which fell flat, never really intended to raise a laugh.

Most left wing "comedians" seem to be in the same trough

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 10:23 AM

So Iains ans Ake, the humor in this one seems to be in how you've now switched positions to be fond of "political correctness".
Whose ox, I supposed.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Jun 17 - 06:57 AM

"Hurrah to Jeri's remarks about comedians not playing it safe. As the Trump family piles on Griffin, we'll have to see how long it takes her to wiggle out and back to secure footing, but she just made herself totally relevant again. Perhaps she'll host SNL when it returns in the fall"

This from someone who calls the OP and myself "haters"...now that is ironic.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 Jun 17 - 08:05 PM

I don't trust Trump to not shoot himself in the foot.

With any luck, he'll manage to shoot himself in the head, and not a minute too soon.

Quistion is, how many innocent folks will he take with him?

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Jun 17 - 07:14 PM

Look at who started and who first responded to this thread - haters, both of them - obtuse when it comes to facts of any issue and that pretentious application of "Donal John" name by ake - is so cloyingly affected that he shoots himself in the foot every time he uses it.

Hurrah to Jeri's remarks about comedians not playing it safe. As the Trump family piles on Griffin, we'll have to see how long it takes her to wiggle out and back to secure footing, but she just made herself totally relevant again. Perhaps she'll host SNL when it returns in the fall.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jun 17 - 06:09 PM

I was not fond of Hillary but I trusted her not to create more ground wars in Asia or alienate NATO or exchange favors with Russia for private oil investment windfalls.

In God man Sachs we trust: to lie cheat and steal but that is a given.

The ticket I was hoping for was Sanders-Warren.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Jun 17 - 05:22 PM

They have the ability to order your children to die, to order the deaths of many other people. Maybe YOU don't think you should be able to trust someone like that, but... maybe that explains why we have the political leaders we have. People don't expect much from them.

Even the ones I think are dishonest, sneaky bastards have, at least, some concern for public opinion. So we can trust them not to do something unbelievably stupid.

I don't trust Trump to not shoot himself in the foot. I hope that those surrounding him will crawl out of their safe little hidey-holes and stop him if he decides he wants to nuke N. Korea.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Jun 17 - 03:16 PM

"None of us need be fond of a President but we do need to trust them."
Sorry Don - this bit beyond me completely unless you missed "no further than you can throw them"
Their position demands neither trust nor respect and in this case, this prickeen has neither.
I'm with philosopher dodgy-knees - yo need a lantern to find an honest politician
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 Jun 17 - 12:56 PM

Or "The Great Putzby".

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jun 17 - 12:08 PM

Jim right wing nuts already feel insecure in their knowledge compared to nerd libs.

It is reasonable that wing nuts know deep down they are smart but if they were just a little smarter they might understand the real issues and become a dreaded Democrat Hillary lover - good heavens NO


None of us need be fond of a President but we do need to trust them.



michaelr,
What if Trump takes the Isis satire serious and counter sues them?
Donald "I will not have a beheading GAP !

An oil painting of Louis the 16th with a vague Donald hair style and resemblance of a 70 year old fat guy is calling for me to paint. I see the subject in the jaws of a guillotine with the bratty smile on his face. Familiar DC architecture is on the left and right with familiar celebrated Democrats and Republican faces in the crowd.


How about a novel about a lady vampire named Melania biting an old guy who then lives forever and does the evil intents of the Russian Vampire Clan.

I would call it True Schlub.

Subject: RE: BS: Kathy Griffin comedienne?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Jun 17 - 08:50 AM

"I've lost interest in this rubbish"
I doubt if anybody is interested in your attempts to support political censorship while praising it to the skies elsewhere because it is in line with your own fascist agenda
You find my postings indecipherable - go join a night-school class - nobody else seems to have a problem
None so slow at understanding facts as those who find them uncomfortable
Jim Carroll